Adrenaline Dodge for PC

[chuckdes]

Has anyone had problems initiating the adrenaline dodge for the PC version on a keyboard? It works maybe 1 time in a hundred for me. If I press shift and direction she crouches and gets run over, and if a push the direction and shift she gets run over. Very frustrating as it more consistantly doesn't work than does.:hea::hea::hea:

[Priscilla]

I have Anniverary on PC only, i found it very frustrating, so i bought a Xbox 360 gamepad and now it works just fine.

[Lara Lover]

Bascially on my mouse I do:

Left Click = Take out guns.
Right Click = Shoot.
Middle button = Dodge.

So much easier! :tmb:

[young Lara Croft]

The Adrenaline dodge works very bad (I also have only the PC version) and like you said it works 1 time out of 100, personaly I don't find this technique very useful in the game , maybe CD will give up on it ...

[laragirltjuh]

I had a lot of problems with it too, HAD, I changed some control settings, f is roll, like in Legend and the right mouse is jump.When I do the adrenaline-dodge, I go over on the keyboard, F, G and H... That works fine for me :)

[Jensie17]

hold down crouch button and press direction keys, dont jsut press it, i had no problem oding this move

[Clara [CA]]

Has anyone had problems initiating the adrenaline dodge for the PC version on a keyboard? It works maybe 1 time in a hundred for me. If I press shift and direction she crouches and gets run over, and if a push the direction and shift she gets run over.
The important thing when you have to dodge is to keep your target on the enemy (do not run away) and to press the 2 keys really fast at the right moment. Maybe this video will help you :
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[dionisus]

No wonder so many struggles with AD on PC! The manual is wrong!
You have to hold locked on target (RightMouseButton) and keep it pressed, then you can do the rest as it say in manual.
Alternative is to turn on advanced combat, then Lara should'nt lower here guns until you "tell" her to. (Doesnt always work tho)

[CroftScionGuard]

For AD, see this thread (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=1980760&postcount=74).

EDIT: Ok, because it also shows Centaur Battle, I'm going to put it here:

To perform AD:


1.Fill enemy Rage bar
2.Enemy will attack Lara with rage attack
3.Stop shooting at that enemy but keep guns aimed to it
4.Move Lara to left or right
5.Screen will blur and arrow keys will show up on the bottom right of the screen
6.Don't leave the left/right button and keep aimed and press roll
7.One or two grey reticles will show up
8.Wait to see a red reticle on the enemy, and then shoot once


Clara [CA] (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/member.php?u=13683) I can't see the video!!!!

[Larson_1988]

;2034687'] Maybe this video will help you :
559tYf-Bse4

;)

[john_york]

Just make sure you're moving in the direction you want to dodge before you press shift. If you press shift before or at the same time, she'll crouch rather than dodge.

[Encore]

I was only able to master the adrenaline dodge (also on PC) when I set the combat mode to advanced toggle, where Lara keeps her guns out. Before that I couldn't do a succesfull one and I couldn't pass the TRex!!! How ridiculous.

[Kapitein Iglo]

I had problems trying with keyboard aswell but with the xbox360 controller I'm able to hit almost every time. It makes the game a lot easier using these dodges though.

[pEhouse]

Since so many people have problems with the AD - I'm one of em - I really hope that CD will let that one go..

[The_Terminator]

I was only able to master the adrenaline dodge (also on PC) when I set the combat mode to advanced toggle, where Lara keeps her guns out.Quoted for truth, emphasis mine.
This should've been the default settings.

The reasone why it's so difficult on the PC is b/c she keeps putting her guns away, thus ruining the adrenaline dodge. Keep those guns out, people!

[Mona Sax]

Usually when people have this problem, it's because Lara holsters the pistols before they can do the bullet time dodge. You absolutely have to have them drawn or it won't work. The easiest way to make sure is to activate the Advanced Toggle combat mode in the options, which works like the classic draw/holster command.
No wonder so many struggles with AD on PC! The manual is wrong!
You have to hold locked on target (RightMouseButton) and keep it pressed, then you can do the rest as it say in manual.
Alternative is to turn on advanced combat, then Lara should'nt lower here guns until you "tell" her to. (Doesnt always work tho)
See above. You don't have to lock on anything, you just have to have the guns drawn. I always use Advanced Toggle, so I kind of took that for granted when I made the video. My bad.

[The_Terminator]

Mona is just agreeing with me. ;)

[lillyc]

i can do it easily but the red reticule does not appear only in 100 times maybe it is a problem of timing.anyway this might work: i coudn't do it too because lara would crouch or put her guns down and then i tried to wait for the enemy to come really close to me and then i kept the roll button pressed with the arrow(i press the arrow first) and it worked

[Eddie Haskell]

Quoted for truth, emphasis mine.
This should've been the default settings.

The reasone why it's so difficult on the PC is b/c she keeps putting her guns away, thus ruining the adrenaline dodge. Keep those guns out, people!

This begs the question, why wasn't this the default in the first place. Who puts their guns away in the midst of multiple enemies? Lara of course! ;)

[King Croft]

Here is how my control scheme it's with the P.C. keyboard and mouse... (Keyboard) W = Up, A = Left, S = Back, D = Right. Shift = Crouch. (Mouse) Left Button = Shoot, Right Button = Combat Mode Toggle.

Now what works for me when using the Adrenaline Dodge is to,
Hold down the Right Mouse Button (to lock on to the enemy) then start shooting the enemy with the Left Mouse Button,
build up the enemy's Rage Meter by shooting him constantly,
right after the Rage Meter is built up completely and he starts charging you (There will be a noise and a spark that comes from the enemy's head area), STOP SHOOTING but keep holding down the Right Mouse Button, then about a second before the enemy hits you,
start moving in any direction (preferably Left or Right, because you can't always jump over the enemy's head) then do a Crouch while still holding the directional key and while still holding down the Combat Mode Toggle button.
Everything will blur and go into slow motion. You will see mirrored gray crosshairs appear (they will be spinning while getting ever closer to the enemy's head). Once the crosshairs come together they'll turn red, That is when you shoot one single shot at the enemy.

Well I hope this helps some people out. :D

[Ninjawitch]

For over a month now, for 4 hours nearly a day, my son, and myself, have been trying and trying and trying to defeat these centaurs that can turn Lara to stone or backkick her yet they are invulnerable to attack.

His self esteem is just going down the tubes! He has every Tomb Raider game and played them all through without a problem without cheats or saved games from other fans, etc.... and got all secrets, etc.... BUT this is the first Tomb Raider i.e. "Anniversary" that is just too hard for him that it is making him on the verge of tears.

Normally I tell him to keep at it but he has tried everything, even advice to others on here he has used, but even that is failing him.

And I'm not getting him an X-Box controller just to finish off a small section of the game! That is out of the question.

In the PC version there seems to be just one and ONLY one way to kill the centaurs and that is it! No other options.

No bypass! Nothing! If you do not kill the centaurs the game is essentially over for all but the fast nimble fingered, fast reactive minded person to continue on through.

He even mapped his PC keyboard as such

MOUSE BUTTON 1 - SHOOT
MOUSE BUTTON 2 - HOLSTER/UNHOLSTER
MOUSE BUTTON 3 (MIDDLE WHEEL) - DODGE/ROLL

He has tried other nearby buttons for DODGE/ROLL as well.

Whenever she finally shoots the centaurs enough that that they power rush her and she goes into adrenaline dodge AND she gets the target lock on the centaur's head but then SUDDENLY Lara changes to the shotgun and loses target lock and then fires the shotgun! TOO LATE to stun the centaur!

Time and time again this happens!

This is insane! There is no way to disable mouse wheel cycling of weapons in the control panel. I have tried.

Me and my son refuses to use the ASDW keys for direction since they are closer to the LEFT SHIFT key whereas he is far more comfortable using the UP/LEFT/RIGHT/DOWN keys between the RIGHT CTRL and 0/INS keys.

We are nearly at our wits end and I'm about to spin this disc into a brick wall.

What got into Crystal Dynamics to map a mouse wheel with automatic weapon change and not have the ability to disengage it?

What got into Crystal Dynamics to make TWO impervious enemies fight Lara with so many button presses that it is causing both me and my son of 16 early arthritis and pain in our the joints with having to worry about shaking off the stone effect, maneuvering to keep two enemies in sight, moving to keep from getting kicked or hit. As well as keeping up with the pace of timing to pull off a dodge and aiming and then worry about your shotgun suddenly coming up! And we are not getting into the yanking of the shield and hiding behind it, etc... yet

Couldn't they have a backdoor option that allows Lara to automatically defeat the centaurs after a certain amount of time passes so one can continue on with the game or at least have a second way to defeat them outside the dodge, disorient the centaur, grapple, pull shield away then ----- lather, rise and repeat?

Just way too many moves for me or a kid to have to go through after you manage to use adrenaline dodge.

Why can't Crystal Dynamics, with all this wonder in programming can't they simply put in, as an option, a toggle of boss difficulty control where one can click on if an enemy is too tough and you can level down the degree of difficulty?

Lets say the centaurs are as they stand now is HARD level and the option to simply fire at them until she kills them like Lara did with the T-Rex is MEDIUM so EASY would be Lara can hide behind objects so as she not gets hit as much and just has to crouch to avoid being turned to stone and stay being a rock near the temple firing until the centaurs get ready to charge then Lara can target lock to the head then stun them, run out and grapple the shield away then run back behind a rock in safety and continue firing.

This all the all the while getting rid of the automatic weapon change that interferes with actions after adrenlene dodge.

Come on Crystal Dynamics how about getting a patch out to address the automatic weapon cycling after one presses the middle mouse button to activate adrenaline doge as well alter the toughness of the centaurs?

I would think that after a month, daily trying to kill the centaurs that enough is enough.

My son got all the Reliks and all the secrets up to this point and he doesn't want to lose them just so he can get a saved game to help get him pass the centaurs but lose his collection in the meanwhile.

He even got all the Reliks from last level in Midas in the flaming pillar room with the timed run, but just barely! But this level is far too much for him to complete.

Why make a game that can frustrate kids and adults alike except for those very few players that can handle all that button pressing, maintain their timing and maneuvering to get two shields away from two centaurs?!

In any future Tomb Raider games PLEASE put in a Boss Level Difficulty toggle please!

As for this game. Before my son totally gets frustrated. I'm taking him away from the game instead and taking him to play baseball or soccer where he feels he is getting somewhere!

Thanks for nothing Crystal Dynamics!

[Ward Dragon]

Me and my son refuses to use the ASDW keys for direction since they are closer to the LEFT SHIFT key whereas he is far more comfortable using the UP/LEFT/RIGHT/DOWN keys between the RIGHT CTRL and 0/INS keys.

The whole point of using WASD is that they *are* next to the left shift key, which should be the roll/dodge button (it is so much easier to play the game that way). If you truly don't want to use WASD, then I suggest something like make the right ctrl button draw/holster weapons and make the right mouse button the roll/dodge key.

You probably already know that you should holster your weapons when the centaurs are about to turn you to stone (it's much easier than trying to shake the stone off). Also, I found that having the combat mode set to advanced toggle was easier for me (you might already have done that, though).

If you have any skill with moving files around on your PC, you can trick the game into being on easy mode for the centaur battle, and then turn it back to hard mode afterwards without losing your rewards. This thread explains how to do it :) And of course, make a back up of your save directory before you change anything.

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=104816&highlight=centaur+easy+file

[Eddie Haskell]

I truly hope that the people from EIDOS read your post Ninjawitch. I truly do...

[Legend 4ever]

I had a problem with AD but today I tried to switch the mode from MANUAL to ADVANCED TOGGLE and I can proudly say I have no problems with AD anymore.

[young Lara Croft]

I had a problem with AD but today I tried to switch the mode from MANUAL to ADVANCED TOGGLE and I can proudly say I have no problems with AD anymore.

same here! :wve:
I think this is the only problem, that even though you follow the instructions in the videos posted on youtube some players don't explain this part as an important setting that can change your gameplay!

[rowanlim]

I had a problem with AD but today I tried to switch the mode from MANUAL to ADVANCED TOGGLE and I can proudly say I have no problems with AD anymore.

did the same thing, no problem ever since with AD...;)
after that, jus dodge them centaurs & kill 'em off... :jmp:

btw i applaud u guys for stil keepin up with the game even though it's been pretty rough on u.. :tmb:

good luck ;)

[The Great Chi]

For over a month now, for 4 hours nearly a day, my son, and myself, have been trying and trying and trying to defeat these centaurs.....Thanks for nothing Crystal Dynamics!I would agree with you. The two centaur battle is the most frustrating end boss level I have ever played in Tomb Raider, especially if you find the adrenaline dodge move very tricky to acheive every time :hea:

I will not tell you have many times I had to repeat the battle till I won, but it was very difficult.

Anyway you are almost at the end of that level, so why not just skip it on the PC and insert the next level save, so you can enjoy the rest of the game :D

You will find the save here...
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=99029

[Brunosback]

what i do is i first use either (W,A,S or D) to move then when lara is moving and it gets less noisy when the creature is near you press both space and left shift at the same time! Works like a charm for me :D

[silver_wolf]

are people still not getting this?? god, I did it the first time I tried. My 9-year old cousin can do it. It's not that hard!!

[Eddie Haskell]

are people still not getting this??

What does that tell you? That it isn't as easy for everyone as you think. Some people excel at some things while others do not. From what I have read here perhaps the "move" was not explained in enough detail within the game for everyone to grasp it's modus operandi immediately. And even when they understand it, some find that the implementation of the "move" requires a certain dexterity and timing that do not instantly possess, but that with time and patience they could learn (I have also read about bugs, glitches and a pc speed phenomenon).

The question for these players (and for CD and EIDOS as well) is do they have the time and patience to keep going until they master this? Is this the reaction from the public that CD had in mind after they repeatedly tested this "move" in the game? Is the help in the game (manual, hints, etc) sufficient to assist the player solve this? :confused:

[TigerEye]

(Please excuse me, while I kind of "barn storm" around here, a bit.) :o

Simply imagine a single key-press doing almost exactly what you need to do. (I had to use "almost" because you'll never know "exactly" what TRA will really do, from key to key.) ;)
So, here's my small set TRA tutorial keys with some fun/retro play keys.
TRA AutoHotKey fun-and-needed keys, perhaps? (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?p=690397#post690397)

(Btw, my Forward AD key (just one press of Kp8) gave me the nerve to do a successful forward vault, right over a bear's head, with just enough room for a critical head shot, mates!)
:jmp: (vault, keep watching the bear, wait for the BELL and then HS!) :tmb:

[The_Terminator]

are people still not getting this?? god, I did it the first time I tried. My 9-year old cousin can do it. It's not that hard!!You're right. it isn't hard.
...after you figure it out.
I'm telling you that I was stuck on the centaurs where you're forced to use the AD for two long nights. It was very frustrating.
After changing to advanced toggle, I finished off the centaurs in two more tries.
The point is, as Eddie Haskel alluded to, why on earth isn't the combat mode set to this as the default? right click to draw the weapons, right click to holster them when your done.
The auto holstering of the weapons is silly.
Look at the forums since the game went public to see how many people struggled with this.
I think Crystal D simply made a mistake, and the next patch should set the advanced toggle as default.

[bravedave]

I fully agree, i'm 58 and am completely frustrated with the game-play and my own ineptitude. I can no longer play this game because I can not get past the Centaurs.

[Indiana Croft]

what I do is just hold down a direction key and wait for them to come at me. When the screen blurs, I wait for them to leap/attack THEN press shift while still pressing the direction key. Then I just wait for the crosshairs to turn white and its all smooth sailing:)

[TigerEye]

You're right. it isn't hard.
...after you figure it out.
I'm telling you that I was stuck on the centaurs where you're forced to use the AD for two long nights. It was very frustrating.
After changing to advanced toggle, I finished off the centaurs in two more tries.
The point is, as Eddie Haskel alluded to, why on earth isn't the combat mode set to this as the default? right click to draw the weapons, right click to holster them when your done.
The auto holstering of the weapons is silly.
Look at the forums since the game went public to see how many people struggled with this.
I think Crystal D simply made a mistake, and the next patch should set the advanced toggle as default.

And CD, would Lara ever need to simply "show" or flash a weapon, in and out, as with threatening someone? (Not in your TRA game, CD.) :confused:

And please, CD, just try to make an EXCUSE for your new TRA Leap of Faith / Death combo... (Especially since I just tried your older TR Legend, where both its jump and grappling actions are exactly the same jump-key (Spacebar on the PC) with a TOTALLY safe and positve grappling-action, it would seem?)

So, are all of your new and seperate "sly moves" simply there to disable your TRA players in a somewhat "software cheaper" and EASIER ingame-fashion? :(

*** And I finally got so tired of these "killer tricks", that I decided to create my own little key-combo PC tricks, just for your TRA tricks. ;)
TRA AutoHotKey fun-and-needed keys, perhaps? (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?p=690397#post690397)
(Not perfect, but a lot more FUN then simply dying from "CD sly-ness".) :tmb:

[trXD]

if you guys are complaining about the fact that you cant use the adrenline shot then go on option then controls and then change the mode to toggle mode(i think thats what its called). That way the guns work like in tr1. You only have to tap it to get the guns to stay out. You dont have to keep holding it:D

If you do that you can do adrenline dodge easily, i had the same problem

[highlander20816]

hi im mike and i gotta tell ya i hate the addrenaline dodge ive seen the video on how to do it and i get the general idea but for the life of me i havent been able to get it to work once and it sucks for me more because i have cerebral palsy with a slightly bad left hand so it is just as harder for me to get it to work they should have just put a regular targeting system in the game i have a pc and i really try to be quick on the controls some people have made some suggestions and im gonna try them the addrenaline dodge is all over the game and it sucks for me i dont if im gonna be able to finish the game because you need the adrenaline dodge to defeat the the bosses and that sucks so if anyone has an idea let me know and just be be sure tell me exacly what buttons to push thanks ---- MIKE

[Ward Dragon]

hi im mike and i gotta tell ya i hate the addrenaline dodge ive seen the video on how to do it and i get the general idea but for the life of me i havent been able to get it to work once and it sucks for me more because i have cerebral palsy with a slightly bad left hand so it is just as harder for me to get it to work they should have just put a regular targeting system in the game i have a pc and i really try to be quick on the controls some people have made some suggestions and im gonna try them the addrenaline dodge is all over the game and it sucks for me i dont if im gonna be able to finish the game because you need the adrenaline dodge to defeat the the bosses and that sucks so if anyone has an idea let me know and just be be sure tell me exacly what buttons to push thanks ---- MIKE

First of all, adjust the combat settings and choose the advanced toggle option. That way Lara does not put her guns away until you press the holster button. I'm not sure how much dexterity you have in your left hand due to your disability. Are you using the WASD keys with left shift as dodge/roll? If so, does it give you any trouble to move and press roll at the same time? You might want to map roll to the right mouse button for the boss battles if you haven't done so already.

What you have to do to get adrenaline dodge to work is you have to keep shooting the enemy until its rage bar is full. For the boss battles, the rage bar is visible right below the health bar (it is invisible for normal enemies). Once an enemy is enraged, an orange flash will go off above its head. It will then charge at you. While this is happening, try moving to the side (hold down A or D) and keep the camera focused on the enemy (using the mouse). When the enemy gets close to you, press the roll key while still holding down A or D. Lara should dive to the side in slow motion. Two white crosshairs will appear on the screen, moving towards each other. When they overlap, they will turn red and you will hear a beep. You must shoot immediately and Lara will perform a headshot. Note that you can also do adrenaline dodges while pressing W or S, and in fact you will need to do the forward adrenaline dodge for the final stage of the last boss battle. Until then, though, I think it is easier to move to the side while doing the dodge.

Good luck :)

[koRngear]

God, it took me ages out to learn it.
But now I daily kill the torso boss.
In the option menu I set it to advanced toggle mode.
Then I press either right or left and the crouch (it is the right analog stick in my gamepad) and hold it on until I see the red circle.
Doin A D is a charm (dont kill me if you have learned this).

[TRfan9294]

I don't care what everybody says, PC RULES!!!!!!:jmp::jmp::jmp:

[Larapink]

TRFan9294 you keep bringing up year old threads. :mad:

[Clara [CA]]

Right. Please stop bumping old threads.

Closed.