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Celli
16-06-03, 19:09
I'm watching Dr. Phil right now http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif and the topic today is about obesity. It brings up a general question though in my mind.

Do you judge people first by how they look and then get to know them; Or do you get to know them first before judging them?

Isabella
16-06-03, 19:58
I try to get to know someone first before judging them.

Maureen Errant
16-06-03, 20:05
I know looks mean a lot in our society, but I would like to think that I am not that shallow. I have a very good friend who tips the scales at over 350lbs, and I care for him very much, and I'm not ashamed to be seen anywhere with him.

Kaminari
17-06-03, 01:19
There's nothing more mediocre than judging someone by his/her look. I have an anecdote to tell. Take a sit, guys http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/grouphug.gif

A few years ago, I had a Swiss friend that I met at my previous work place. She was very pretty and very gentle, but she often felt uncomfortable with her light obesity (and being 4'9" tall didn't help either). Many male coworkers would simply ignore her because of her not very flattering look.

Then one day she started a severe diet which lasted about four months. Even though I could see her nearly every day (she was from a different department), I could see the subtle change going on and the results became visible week after week. After four months, her body didn't turn into a top model's one but the result was nevertheless quite spectacular.

Incidentally, the more she was loosing weight, the prettier her face appeared - and she was really pretty. And in the same time, the behaviour of the coworkers completely changed towards her. They started to regularly pop up and do their charming tricks like bees attracted by honey. Looking back at how they were behaving earlier, that was really pathetic. Thankfully *she* hadn't forget and was certainly no easy prey http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

My point isn't about the virtues of a strict diet (which doesn't work for everyone anyway). It's about the hypocrisy of judging someone by his/her look one day, and consider him/her entirely differently the following day just because of a look or shape change. Inside the flesh, the person is still the same as before - boy, I should know with that avatar!

[ 17. June 2003, 02:22: Message edited by: Kaminari ]

Celli
17-06-03, 01:51
Wow! That's an incredible story Kaminari! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Thanks for sharing it with all of us. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

I'll be honest and say I'm guilty of judging people by how they look. I have to stop and say, that judging always sounds like a negative word. It can be for the better or worse. I'm guilty of both. There are a few 'interesting characters' in my HS, and I know that I've gave them my fair share of odd glances at first and haven't gotten to know them.

Well, there was an instance where I did get to become friends with one of them though.

I first saw Melia when I was in 8th grade and she was in 10th. I think it was at a graduation that I first saw her. Melia is the type of person who dresses in all black, died her hair black and purple too http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif , wears dog collars, never wears short sleeves or shorts (always long baggy pants). In essence, the classic gothic person. Without ever knowing her, her appearance deterred me from wanting to become friends with her. I thought she would have been just one of those people who is too far out of touch with reality to be coherant at all.

Freshmen year, Melia was a Junior. I really started to get to know her, and I found out that her personality is so far from what I thought it was. She is such a friendly person (what a sense of humor! :D ) and just a great person to know.

I regret that I judged her before I knew her (or anyone else too), but at least I made the effort to get to know her. Most of the time, I do make the effort to get to know people, but there are always those exceptions. (example, a Freshmen who has a mohawk and tried to dye her hair purple but instead died her face purple.....)

Kaminari
17-06-03, 02:13
Originally posted by Celli:
I have to stop and say, that judging always sounds like a negative word. It can be for the better or worse.You are perfectly right, I should have been more precise. I wasn't really meaning "judging" but more something like "bad premiss".

Celli
17-06-03, 02:22
Oh, I wasn't saying you did anything wrong Kaminari, I think I just picked a bad word to begin this thread out with, or I should have at least mentioned at the start that judgment can be either positive or negative.

Kaminari
17-06-03, 02:45
No problem http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

I shall leave you all now, it's 4:30 AM and I'm supposed to wake up in three hours. It's going to be tough. But I still can make it :cool:

I'm counting on The Last Raider Online to keep the forum warm and tidy ;)

Bye tlr and everyone http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Celli
17-06-03, 03:21
Night Kaminari! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Draco
17-06-03, 04:01
Someone's outside appearance is not necessarily a reflection of what lies beneath...after all, what reflects better than a mirror...

max_payne_99
17-06-03, 04:12
Really still water ;)

Draco
17-06-03, 04:45
hehe...

Fugitive Lara
17-06-03, 07:12
Kaminari can you please change that avatar? it scares me http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/silent.gif

the croft woman!
17-06-03, 07:57
I used to judge a few people by their appearece or by their label from school. There are these two girls, one always comes to school with a wacky hair style and the other is a goth, and i thought they were weird so didnt even talk to them. But when one of my friends came back from her 3 years in turkey and started school, she became friends with them, and that got me to know them, and they are actually very nice bubbly people and not at all weird, they just like a lot of fun!

I dont judge people by looks no more, you never know what your missing if you just judge by looks!

Draco
17-06-03, 09:41
Originally posted by the croft woman!:
I dont judge people by looks no more, you never know what your missing if you just judge by looks!And sometimes what you aren't missing... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Kaminari
17-06-03, 15:52
There's an old Native American proverb which roughly sounds like this: don't judge someone before having walked in his moccasins for two weeks.

Originally posted by FuGiTiVe LaRa:
Kaminari can you please change that avatar? it scares me http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/silent.gif Don't be afraid by my look. What may scare you actually puts a smile on someone else's face http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Annacia
17-06-03, 16:03
outter appearence is genetic and beyond control.

The heart is what you make it, warm or cold, it's your own choices that create what you are.

Werner Von Croy
17-06-03, 16:54
Originally posted by Annacia:
The heart is what you make it, warm or cold, Is that a serving suggestion? ;)

Annacia
17-06-03, 17:38
No, Werner, not this time. It's simply an observation of life.

Maureen Errant
17-06-03, 21:13
Originally posted by Kaminari:
There's nothing more mediocre than judging someone by his/her look. I have an anecdote to tell. Take a sit, guys http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/grouphug.gif

A few years ago, I had a Swiss friend that I met at my previous work place. She was very pretty and very gentle, but she often felt uncomfortable with her light obesity (and being 4'9" tall didn't help either). Many male coworkers would simply ignore her because of her not very flattering look.

Then one day she started a severe diet which lasted about four months. Even though I could see her nearly every day (she was from a different department), I could see the subtle change going on and the results became visible week after week. After four months, her body didn't turn into a top model's one but the result was nevertheless quite spectacular.

Incidentally, the more she was loosing weight, the prettier her face appeared - and she was really pretty. And in the same time, the behaviour of the coworkers completely changed towards her. They started to regularly pop up and do their charming tricks like bees attracted by honey. Looking back at how they were behaving earlier, that was really pathetic. Thankfully *she* hadn't forget and was certainly no easy prey http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

My point isn't about the virtues of a strict diet (which doesn't work for everyone anyway). It's about the hypocrisy of judging someone by his/her look one day, and consider him/her entirely differently the following day just because of a look or shape change. Inside the flesh, the person is still the same as before - boy, I should know with that avatar!http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/love1.gif Sweet man.

Maureen Errant
17-06-03, 21:15
Originally posted by Werner Von Croy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Annacia:
The heart is what you make it, warm or cold, Is that a serving suggestion? ;) </font>[/QUOTE]http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yuck.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yuck.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yuck.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yuck.gif

Kaminari
17-06-03, 22:39
Good evening, Maureen http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/love1.gif

184 people at 00:35 AM after a server crash? Wow, me is amazed! They must really love this forum http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Annacia
17-06-03, 22:51
Whats not to love? such an engageing group of people :D . And all of us at least 1/2 a bubble off plum. WHAT FUN!!!!!!!!

Evening Kam. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

p.s. Target practice went great, I knocked off 3 farm houses, and old Chrysler and a windmill. ;)

Kaminari
17-06-03, 23:16
Hi Annacia http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Glad I was not at the farm tonight! I've just been transferred into a shiny new pigsty. Try again, girl! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/violent.gif

Annacia
17-06-03, 23:25
Oh! I would never aim at you :eek: . They were abandoned targets. Bosley finds them for me :D .

Thought I'd take the white Jag out into the desert tonight. Desert stars are spectacular!
(not to mention that I can really open up on the lonely desert roads) http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif

Kaminari
17-06-03, 23:52
I remember a certain starry night in Summer 1999. I was attending the wedding of a friend in Portugal. The party didn't went well at all (an incredible story - suffice to say that the pair divorced only two weeks after).

I came back at my hotel by foot, three kilometers away from the celebration hall. 2:00 AM, no street lamp... Pitch black was the country road. Very dangerous when cars appear in front of you with the full lights on. I even got chased by some local dogs http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

But what I won't never forget was the outstanding starry sky. It was a beautiful sight to behold. For nearly an hour, I felt completely remote from the civilization.

Annacia
17-06-03, 23:58
The desert has that effect. It's as if you can see forever, gives you space and freedom.

Kaminari
18-06-03, 00:05
You just have converted me. All I need now is a tent and a camel.

Isabella
18-06-03, 00:05
Have you ever looked up at the stars in an open field with no obstructions? If you are on your back and just keep starring up, it's such a surreal feeling. It's almost scarrey in a way beacuse you feel like you are going to get lifted off the ground or that the entire universe is going to fall down. But everyone should try it or do it on a regular basis. It puts things into perspective. Your problems suddenly seem so silly and unnessary. ;)

Annacia
18-06-03, 00:19
Camel not recomended! nasty beasts!

Now , a Jag, there is a cat to love. You just want to rub their tummy and purrr with them.

Kaminari
18-06-03, 00:20
Yes, Bella, I exactly know this feeling http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

The first time I experienced it, I was spending some vacations in my homeland of Brittany. I was lying in the wet heather at night, with a light wind blowing on my face and a delicate fragrance teasing my nostrils, actually waiting for the Milky Way to slowly print itself on my retina. When it happened, I felt dizzy like if I was falling in a black ocean of stars onboard a spaceship :eek:

Big time http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Annacia
18-06-03, 00:21
Of course, with a Jag you might have to settle for rubbing it on the hood :D

Isabella
18-06-03, 00:22
Originally posted by Kaminari:
Yes, Bella, I exactly know this feeling http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

. When it happened, I felt dizzy like if I was falling in a black ocean of stars onboard a spaceship :eek:

Big time http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Isn't that the most odd yet wonderful feeling? It's as though you are afraid but you want to keep looking up to see what's going to happen next.

Annacia
18-06-03, 00:26
You can just get swept up and carried away with them. I saw the nothern lights last summer and what a sight!! Swirls of colored light dancing in the sky. Ribbons of green and blue from horizon to horizon. A night to dream on.

Isabella
18-06-03, 00:30
Annacia, you are so lucky you saw those. Everytime they are visible it is cloudy in Mich. They facinate me, just from the pictures I have seen.

Kaminari
18-06-03, 00:33
I wish I could experience it again more often. Instead, I have to look at the awful dark orange sky topping the city like a dome - just right now. Paris is so 'naturally' bright that you can see her lights reflect under the clouds at every hour of the night.

Isabella
18-06-03, 00:40
Kaminari, that's true that living in a city, especially Paris, makes it difficult to get in touch with nature and the night. But still, you are in Paris! How wonderful is that I know when you are around something or see it everyday, you can become too used to it and get bored. But Paris is one of the most lively yet hauntingly beautiful cities in the world.
By the way, have you ever been to Laval France?

Maureen Errant
18-06-03, 00:49
Originally posted by Annacia:
You can just get swept up and carried away with them. I saw the nothern lights last summer and what a sight!! Swirls of colored light dancing in the sky. Ribbons of green and blue from horizon to horizon. A night to dream on.This was going to be my post. Annacia and I experienced this together. We were standing outside in our nightwear, starring at the sky. I had seen them before, but she hadn't. She was extremely moved at the power of nature. We stood out there slowly turning in circles for almost 2 hours. An incredibly magical night, and one we talk about quite often. Where I live is deep country. No noise, lights, or smell. Many nights I gaze up at the stars when I'm letting the dogs out for their final run, and after 6 years I'm still amazed at the power of the stars to draw my gaze and to hold it until I feel a cold nose in my hand. The earth is an enchanting place to be, and most of us don't open up our eyes to appreciate natures bounty. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Kaminari
18-06-03, 01:11
Don't worry Isabella, I'll never get bored of Paris http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif But I've lived here for such a long time that I can understand why local people stop visiting or even 'watching' their own city after a while.

When I cross a bridge over the Seine, or wander along the Rivoli Street (or eat out at my favorite Japanese restaurant :cool: ), I'm never short of amazement.

Every time I walk under the Eiffel Tower (which happens to me quite often), I always stop right under its belly and look straight upon my head. Every time, the sight is absolutely breathtaking. This is truly a wonder from the genius who helped build the Statue of Liberty more than a century ago. Yet many people who work or live nearby are regularly passing under it without even noticing it at all. Hard to believe, isn't it http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

I'll try to take and bring back some digital photos of my wanderings in the city when I have the opportunity.

Sadly I've never been to Laval, but I know Rennes quite well, it's the town next door. Have you been to Laval before? Rennes and Laval are located on the region border between Brittany and Normandy.

Do you know Brittany? It's a beautiful yet rather wild region, especially in the north - which incidentally looks very much like the South Cornwalls in England http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Celli
18-06-03, 01:21
Sounds like I have a lot to look forward to if I am able to go to Paris and Lyons next year. :D

Isabella
18-06-03, 01:23
It's good to hear that you do take time to appreciate something that you see everyday.
My father was born in Laval. I was also born there, but we moved to the U.S when I was about 6 so I don't remember too much about it. We vacationed in Brittany while we lived there and my Godmother had a summer home over there. It's breathtaking! I love turbulant water and rockey paths and gusty winds. There is something very sweeping and romantic about it. I have a lot of relatives scattered all over France and I wish I had more opportunites to visit. You will have to pardon my french verbs and tenses. I can always speak a language much better than I can write it.

I was actually fleuent when I was little. That was my native language but I lost a bit of it after having lived in the U.S. So it's nice to brush up on my writing skills with someone. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Isabella
18-06-03, 02:03
By the way Kaminari, I have to say it again. Your avatar rocks my world.

Kaminari
18-06-03, 02:12
Celli, I hope you will enjoy your stay here http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Originally posted by Isabella:
My father was born in Laval. I was also born there, but we moved to the U.S when I was about 6 so I don't remember too much about it.
That is amazing! Being born in France, growing in the States (Michigan?)... So faraway, yet so close. I was starting to wonder but, in a way, I'm not the only French soul wandering here after all http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Feel assured that I'll be more than happy to help you bring your French back to perfection http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Originally posted by Isabella:
I love turbulant water and rockey paths and gusty winds.
They are my fuel and my inspiration. I miss them so much when I'm away from them. And since I'm at it: truth be told, I love rain!

Celli
18-06-03, 02:14
Tell us more! Tell us more! lol I want to hear more about France, it's already getting me excited for when I go. ;) :D

Isabella
18-06-03, 02:16
Wow, have a fellow brooder. I thought I was the only one who took pleasure my melencholy by checking the weather forcast for the next storm. Rainy days are the best.

[ 18. June 2003, 03:20: Message edited by: Isabella ]

Isabella
18-06-03, 02:20
Celli, you will love it. Traveling anywhere is an experience that is unforgetteable.

Celli
18-06-03, 02:25
I love travelling, which is why I can't wait for Paris. :D I spent Spring Break last year in London. Fantastic city! :D Only thing wrong was the subway smell ;) and the 8 1/2 hr. flight back. lol

Kaminari
18-06-03, 02:25
Originally posted by Isabella:
By the way Kaminari, I have to say it again. Your avatar rocks my world.Your words are really comforting. They bring peace and confidence to my inner self http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif

I'm actually quite surprised that I was myself able to live with it that long. It's just that sometimes my joyful face seem too frightening for a handful of people. I try to run after them, bend over them and make them realize the true nature of my smile, but that usually tends to scare the heck out of them beyond description.

Maureen Errant
18-06-03, 02:30
Originally posted by Kaminari:
There's an old Native American proverb which roughly sounds like this: don't judge someone before having walked in his moccasins for two weeks.

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by FuGiTiVe LaRa:
Kaminari can you please change that avatar? it scares me http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/silent.gif Don't be afraid by my look. What may scare you actually puts a smile on someone else's face http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif </font>[/QUOTE]It most certainly does. I once had a very special little piggy. Her name was Abby, and she was a Vietnamese Pot-bellied pig. I think that out of all the pets I've ever had, she was the one that I bonded with the most. She's been gone for almost 3 years now and I don't think a day goes by that I don't think of her. So, you're right Kam, your avatar makes me smile with the fond memories of a cherished friend. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif I'll go and have a good sniffle now.

Isabella
18-06-03, 02:31
They just can't see past the exterior. I see a face that is content with his place in life. Who else can smile like that for the camera? There is absolutley no trace of self-consciousness or self-doubt. I think the people who are afraid are afraid because you exude so much confidence that it becomes intimidating to the average avatar. Smile on Pig... smile on. :D

[ 18. June 2003, 03:32: Message edited by: Isabella ]

Kaminari
18-06-03, 02:35
Originally posted by Isabella:
Wow, have a fellow brooder.Spleen is good! It's only equally balanced by wit - which you have aplenty ;)

Celli, what can I say about France that you won't discover by yourself? :D You'll most certainly be well received here. That may sound strange today, but we do like Americans. It's just that, well... we are French ;)

Isabella
18-06-03, 02:37
:D

Celli
18-06-03, 02:38
My mom was all freaking out when everything was first happening a few months ago with Iraq and how France was reacting.

I just told her, "Mom, I don't care. It's going to be a fun trip anyway! And how often to do get to go to a beautiful city like Paris?" :D

Kaminari
18-06-03, 02:51
Originally posted by Maureen Errant:
I'll go and have a good sniffle now.Glad I always come here with a clean handkerchief http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Isabella
18-06-03, 02:55
Celli, France, Germany and Russia did what they thought would be best (personally I agreed with them) given the situation. They are not anti-american. It sounds like you have a wonderful open attitude towards the whole thing, and it's too bad more people don't feel the way you do. I'm sure you will have a fun time. :D

Kaminari
18-06-03, 02:58
Originally posted by Isabella:
They just can't see past the exterior. I see a face that is content with his place in life. Who else can smile like that for the camera? There is absolutley no trace of self-consciousness or self-doubt. I think the people who are afraid are afraid because you exude so much confidence that it becomes intimidating to the average avatar.:eek: speechless I am!!! :eek:

This is going straight to my promotional website:
KamTheSmilingPig.com http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/love1.gif

Celli
18-06-03, 03:00
I've tried my hand before at the political forums scene...and that openmindedness didn't work out too well. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif It was just like, "I'm not liberal, but I'm not conservative. So shut up already and leave me alone with your stupid rants!" lol

I know that anyone who doesn't agree with the US isn't automatically anti-American, but it just makes me wonder. Too many rumors and heresay going around to ever know the truth. And how funny is it that this is in the Dr. Phil thread? lol

"I'm Dr. Phil, and I'll be seeing you, next time when we discuss bed wetting in 40 year olds." http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif Gotta love Dr. Phil. :D

Maureen Errant
18-06-03, 03:02
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ?

[ 18. June 2003, 04:15: Message edited by: Maureen Errant ]

Maureen Errant
18-06-03, 03:04
Originally posted by Kaminari:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Maureen Errant:
I'll go and have a good sniffle now.Glad I always come here with a clean handkerchief http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll have a good blow.....you want it back????? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yuck.gif

Maureen Errant
18-06-03, 03:13
[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Queen of double postings.

Kaminari
18-06-03, 03:20
Originally posted by Maureen Errant:
Thanks, I'll have a good blow.....you want it back?Just keep it until I change my mind - shouldn't happen any time soon!

Maureen Errant
18-06-03, 03:22
This is getting ridiculous! Think I better go and rest myself and the "puter. Tomorrow, tomorrow, there's always tomorrow...... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/grouphug.gif

Celli
18-06-03, 03:28
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya! Tomorrow!
You're only a day away!
Tooooooomorrow!

lol ;)

Night Maureen http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Kaminari
18-06-03, 03:43
Originally posted by Maureen Errant:
This is getting ridiculous!Kaminari -&gt; you - win! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Maureen -&gt; you - loose... :(

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/love1.gif

Lol, time to wake up for me... Bye everyone http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Celli
18-06-03, 03:46
Ummm, good....morning? lol http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Maureen Errant
18-06-03, 12:49
Originally posted by Kaminari:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Maureen Errant:
This is getting ridiculous!Kaminari -&gt; you - win! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Maureen -&gt; you - loose... :(

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/love1.gif

Lol, time to wake up for me... Bye everyone http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Kam, it's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/flirt.gif

Draco
19-06-03, 01:09
Well if you play the game and never win, even playing gets redundant... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Annacia
19-06-03, 01:17
But if you play sometimes you will win!

Celli
19-06-03, 02:33
But if we keep talking about this, I'm going to be even more lost! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Maureen Errant
19-06-03, 12:48
Hi Celli. Don't worry about getting lost. I'm usually out there on the dark side of the moon most of the time. Talk to Annacia some time and I'm sure she'll tell you it is so. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif Also it's not hard to get lost or lose the original thought of a thread in about 3 postings. LOL Not for me anyway. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/flirt.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif Did you know (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) that this was post number 69? he...he...he ;) http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

[ 19. June 2003, 14:12: Message edited by: Maureen Errant ]

Celli
19-06-03, 15:46
A 69 with Dr. Phil? :eek: Are you kidding me Maureen? lol ;)

Awww, look at my cat act insane with his toy mouse. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Yeah, that wasn't an A.D.D. moment or anythi.....ooo a bird! ;)

Isabella
19-06-03, 16:03
Hi Celli. Have you ever given your cats some cat mint? It's like the equivalent of speed. They can't focus on anything and they roll around on thier backs and swat at the air. Kind of like I do when I haven't had my coffee yet.

Celli
19-06-03, 16:11
And just why exactly would I want my cat to be even crazier than he is already? :D

This morning, I kept hearing this really muffled meow coming from down the hall, so I got out of bed (yes it woke me up! lol) to see what the heck it was. My cat, was trying to meow with his toy mouse still in his mouth! It was the funniest thing I've seen him do in a looooong time! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Have you had your coffee today yet? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

Isabella
19-06-03, 16:15
Yes, about two big mugs of it. So I haven't been pawing at the air, at least not yet. One of my cats has um..gas problems. He cut's one almost everytime he is sleeping. Then all he does is stretch and go back to sleep. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Maureen Errant
19-06-03, 17:53
Cats!!!!!!Completely individual and unpredictable. I love 'em http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Morning Isabella http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Celli
19-06-03, 21:08
I think you might need to lay off on the cat mints then for your cat. ;)