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KurtisCroft
23-10-07, 12:31
Guys, in TRAOD kurtis dies right? Maybe CD will put him back in! I love kurtis! I have a feeling he's coming back cuz it happens all the time in TR. Natla from TR1 came back from Anniversary, Larson and piere came back in chronicles, von croy came back in aod. See a pattern here? Characters always came back from TR's so maybe kurtis will come back!:D

TombRaider#1fan
23-10-07, 12:33
He didn't die. They already had a part for him in the trilogy for AoD. But I doubt CD will put him in.:(

Zebra
23-10-07, 12:35
He doesn't really die.
Core wanted to make him die if the fans doesn't like him (in the not-made AoD-Continuation).
But if the fans would have liked him, he hadn't died.

There is already a thread about Kurtis in TR8. Please conintue here: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=110358

tlr online
23-10-07, 12:38
Guys, in TRAOD kurtis dies right? Maybe CD will put him back in! I love kurtis! I have a feeling he's coming back cuz it happens all the time in TR. Natla from TR1 came back from Anniversary, Larson and piere came back in chronicles, von croy came back in aod. See a pattern here? Characters always came back from TR's so maybe kurtis will come back!:D

:vlol:

Bumio
23-10-07, 12:47
lets hope he will return *prays* i would be damn happy if CD would put him back in...

Jin Uzuki
23-10-07, 12:49
:vlol:
I wonder what that means. A laugh can mean a lot of things when it comes from the penguin. :pi:

Cochrane
23-10-07, 13:54
It may have something to do with the fact that Natla&Co. didn't really return in a new game, given that TRA is, as far as the story is concerned, the same game as TR1.

Anajrob
23-10-07, 14:05
Well TRA is remake, so no they didn't come back.

I really doubt that Kurtis will come back - only if they remake AOD!? :rolleyes:

Chocolate
23-10-07, 14:16
I really doubt that Kurtis will come back - only if they remake AOD!? :rolleyes:
Maybe that's something we can all look foward to...

Anajrob
23-10-07, 14:20
Maybe that's something we can all look foward to...

Ok. But I don't think they will ever do it because they have their own projects and they don't give too much credit to Core anyway.

Chocolate
23-10-07, 14:23
Lol, I know that. I personally think that CD is taking a direction to sort of forget about the previous games, thus in no way I think Kurtis will ever return. Unless the entire fanbase population demands for Kurtis to return, which then they might just make that spin-off game Core was intending to make.

Anajrob
23-10-07, 14:28
Lol, I know that. I personally think that CD is taking a direction to sort of forget about the previous games, thus in no way I think Kurtis will ever return. Unless the entire fanbase population demands for Kurtis to return, which then they might just make that spin-off game Core was intending to make.

They were really intending to do so? O_o

Yes, you can see that on the official site: Tomb Raider History Coming for soon for about two years!? :rolleyes: :whi: They should really work on that.

Night Crawler
23-10-07, 14:34
Kurtis was one of the reasons why AOD bombed, they'd be insane to bring anything back from that game and they know it. So don't count on it.

Chocolate
23-10-07, 14:37
CD hasn't officially said that they were going to completely drop the idea, but I'm pretty sure they are going to priotize putting together their original ideas instead of going back to bring Kurtis. As they say, Tomb Raider is about Lara.

excuse
23-10-07, 16:27
dead or alive i dont really need himmm.....lara is a action hero....and no other can run in parallel to her...!!!!!

rowanlim
23-10-07, 16:50
i think the ending of AOD was more of a sign that he would be bak SOMEHOW, i'd like him to come bak, he was a refreshing aspect to TR... :tmb:

Bumio
23-10-07, 18:08
i think the ending of AOD was more of a sign that he would be bak SOMEHOW, i'd like him to come bak, he was a refreshing aspect to TR... :tmb:
i agree :)

GodOfLight
23-10-07, 18:12
oh dear... do i need to get the capslock and bold out again... alright... i will... :o

(originally posted in Jin Uzuki's thread on the same useless matter: )

i Don't Understand Why Some People Still Make Threads On This!!!!?????

i Am An Aod Fan And A Kurtis Fan. But People Need To Finally And Seriously Realize That Kurtis Belongs Only In The Aod World... There Is No Place For Him In The New Tomb Raider World Cd Pulled Up Out Of Toby Gards Rectum. There Would Be No Room Or Logistical Sense In Throwing Him In AnD Explaining Where The Hell He Came From After Being Impaled And What Happened To The Nephilim. In Cd's World The Aod Universe Doesn't Exist. Do I Have To Force Feed People Till They Finally Get It????

Bumio
23-10-07, 18:18
oh dear... do i need to get the capslock and bold out again... alright... i will... :o

(originally posted in Jin Uzuki's thread on the same useless matter: )

i Don't Understand Why Some People Still Make Threads On This!!!!?????

i Am An Aod Fan And A Kurtis Fan. But People Need To Finally And Seriously Realize That Kurtis Belongs Only In The Aod World... There Is No Place For Him In The New Tomb Raider World Cd Pulled Up Out Of Toby Gards Rectum. There Would Be No Room Or Logistical Sense In Throwing Him In AnD Explaining Where The Hell He Came From After Being Impaled And What Happened To The Nephilim. In Cd's World The Aod Universe Doesn't Exist. Do I Have To Force Feed People Till They Finally Get It????
hey, calm down :) people can dream and wish, cant they? :)

Alex Fly
23-10-07, 18:22
I love Kurtis but I don't think we'll have the chance to see him back one day...

GodOfLight
23-10-07, 18:35
hey, calm down :) people can dream and wish, cant they? :)

my dear, people can dream and wish all they want... you're right. i myself want a kurtis and AOD continuation...

but, when you've seen threads like this for the past three years, and also ever since legend was announced to all of us, and everyone was like LOLS PLS KURTSY COME BCK! then you do kinda get a little nerve-wracked :D

Nathan0107
23-10-07, 18:37
i think the ending of AOD was more of a sign that he would be bak SOMEHOW, i'd like him to come bak, he was a refreshing aspect to TR... :tmb:

Agreed ! :tmb:

Laras Backpack
23-10-07, 18:41
He didn't die. They already had a part for him in the trilogy for AoD. But I doubt CD will put him in.:(
Same here. :tmb: I think he has potential to be a good game character, but there is no real place for him in the new Tomb Raider games. If CD need a male hero/antagonist to go opposite Lara in a future game then they are 1000X more likely to just make up their own male hero and call him 'Bob' or something. :)

xcrushterx
23-10-07, 21:45
Ever hopeful that he is :)

TRBeth
23-10-07, 23:27
I wonder why some who don't want to talk about Kurtis anymore joins in on a topic that is so obviously about him?

Its a discussion board, and we are between games now so there should be plenty of leeway with topics. There is no reason not to bring up old topics if it interests some people. If topics get shut down just because they are repetitive, then you might as well close the forum down.

If you don't like the topic, just bypass it. There are plenty others out there that have nothing to do with Kurtis.

illuminati30
23-10-07, 23:51
I think CD want to pretend most of the Core games never happened (which is very sad indeed!) but mostly so, they want you to forget about AOD, so i doubt Kurtis will ever resurface.

CAISACO
24-10-07, 00:00
Guys, in TRAOD kurtis dies right? Maybe CD will put him back in! I love kurtis! I have a feeling he's coming back cuz it happens all the time in TR. Natla from TR1 came back from Anniversary, Larson and piere came back in chronicles, von croy came back in aod. See a pattern here? Characters always came back from TR's so maybe kurtis will come back!:D

Chronicles happened BEFORE TR1 :vlol:

TombRaider#1fan
24-10-07, 00:04
All of you who don't like Kurtis, think of it this way: you'll have something to kill and shoot and kill again! I really think it would add interest to the game, but I'm one in what...millions? :D As some of you said, it's nice to dream once in a while:rolleyes:

illuminati30
24-10-07, 00:18
I didn't like controlling him, but i thought his character was good. Too good in fact, i think people felt threatened.

HollabackBoy
24-10-07, 00:44
Characters always came back from TR's so maybe kurtis will come back!:D

Let's hope he NEVER re-surfaces. I dreaded playing him in AOD. Not only was he a nightmare to control, but he wasn't Lara! :p

NightWish
24-10-07, 07:32
Guys, in TRAOD kurtis dies right? Maybe CD will put him back in! I love kurtis! I have a feeling he's coming back cuz it happens all the time in TR. Natla from TR1 came back from Anniversary, Larson and piere came back in chronicles, von croy came back in aod. See a pattern here? Characters always came back from TR's so maybe kurtis will come back!:D

Kurtis never died. even if he was ment to die he never did.

Natla came in annyverary because it was a remake

ANd larson and piere came back in chronicles because ine occurance in chronicles happened before Tr1 :rolleyes:

I like Kurtis too but those points you have posted here are totally... pointless

KurtisLonely
24-10-07, 08:04
Kurtis never died. even if he was ment to die he never did.

Natla came in annyverary because it was a remake

ANd larson and piere came back in chronicles because ine occurance in chronicles happened before Tr1 :rolleyes:

I like Kurtis too but those points you have posted here are totally... pointless

Sorry, but NW got a point, Chronicles played in a time before TR1, Natla was in TRA becouse TRA was a remake of TR1 ( or as they say, a game inspirised by TR1 )

Beanz
24-10-07, 13:05
Peirre and Larson came back in Chronicles because it was set before Tomb Raider 1.

Von Croy comes back because TRAOD continues from TR4

And NATLA comes back because Anniversary is a remake... (Or is it? :mis:)

Infact, she doesn't come back, I think CD are going to use her for future games :D. But technically she doesn't come back, because CORE and CD are two different companies.

And I dont think they will allow kurtis back, he was trademark of CORE.

jlcoleman20
24-10-07, 15:43
I doubt if he returns, but just imagine how he will look with better graphics and maybe a makeover. being that is gonna be on PS3 he might look amazing.

jlcoleman20
24-10-07, 15:46
Kurtis never died. even if he was ment to die he never did.

Natla came in annyverary because it was a remake

ANd larson and piere came back in chronicles because ine occurance in chronicles happened before Tr1 :rolleyes:

I like Kurtis too but those points you have posted here are totally... pointless

In TR1 Natla died but being that TRA is assumed to be a prequel of Legend, Natla didn't really die. Come on now, bullets can't kill her but a pillar falling on her did? If Natla could died, Tihocan and Qualopec would of killed her as her punishment instead of freezing her. Natla didn't die and i believe Avalon, and atlantis is tied together, maybe the same place.(just a thought) And maybe Natla finds Amanda knowing what Lara "did" to her and formed an aliance to get revenge on Lara.

Treasure Seeker
29-10-07, 05:56
lets hope he will return *prays* i would be damn happy if CD would put him back in...
Oh really?
:rolleyes:

danitiwa
29-10-07, 06:13
There's no evidence whatsoever that he died. So everyone needs to stop making false assumptions. And I'd be unhappy if CD ruined him as well.

Khrys
29-10-07, 07:38
If, and I do mean IF, Crystal Dynamics made the character optional, I might be interested, same as I'd be interested in seeing Amanda in the next game as a playable character only IF she was optional. It could be a lot of fun, and add a lot of content to TRL2 if each has their own story rather than just being new 'outfits' for Lara. But it would mean a lot of work on CD's part delaying the game's release.

As to CORE trademarking Kurtis... Um... Guys? CORE doesn't own that trademark, EIDOS does. Which means EIDOS can liscense any company to use the character at any point. If EIDOS decides to let Crystal use Kurtis, I'm sure he'll show. Zip appeared in a prior game, after all, and now he's back, like him or lump him.

On an only somewhat related note... Is it me, or are Zip and Alistair basically Bryce (From the movies) split into two different people?

Bumio
29-10-07, 08:21
Oh really?
:rolleyes:
yeah, really :)

aussie500
29-10-07, 08:43
There's no evidence whatsoever that he died. So everyone needs to stop making false assumptions. And I'd be unhappy if CD ruined him as well.

Core already ruined him, which is what the problem is, he should have been a great character, lots of potential, unfortunately half the Tomb Raider fans hate him, and probably most of the rest would hate how Crystal Dynamics would change him. As much as l would love to see Kurtis get another chance, l doubt Crystal Dynamics would take the risk of including such a controversial character. :(

NightWish
29-10-07, 09:29
In TR1 Natla died but being that TRA is assumed to be a prequel of Legend, Natla didn't really die.
No one aid tr1 is a prequel of legend! Even in the begining of the game it says 1996 and the character designers esopesially said that they were making lara younger for anniversary. this means that tr 1 happened loooong ago.


Come on now, bullets can't kill her but a pillar falling on her did? If Natla could died, Tihocan and Qualopec would of killed her as her punishment instead of freezing her. Natla didn't die and i believe Avalon, and atlantis is tied together, maybe the same place.(just a thought) And maybe Natla finds Amanda knowing what Lara "did" to her and formed an aliance to get revenge on Lara.

yes I also think they will probably tie the 2 games (big mistake)

Laras Backpack
29-10-07, 11:18
If, and I do mean IF, Crystal Dynamics made the character optional, I might be interested, same as I'd be interested in seeing Amanda in the next game as a playable character only IF she was optional. It could be a lot of fun, and add a lot of content to TRL2 if each has their own story rather than just being new 'outfits' for Lara. But it would mean a lot of work on CD's part delaying the game's release.
Work that would be well worth it IMO :tmb: I've been throwing this idea around for a while so I agree- it'd be an excellent extra for the game.

On an only somewhat related note... Is it me, or are Zip and Alistair basically Bryce (From the movies) split into two different people?
I've always wondered this to. Then again, Alister is also quite similar to Nigel from the TV series 'Relic Hunter' and he's a bit of a stock character/stereotype of the stuffy, campy English academic. So I think it's very possible Bryce was an inspiration (considering CD took alot from the moveis when making Legend) but it's just as likely that even without the movies they could have come up an 'Alister'. :)

I actually wish CD had been able to just have Bryce or a character like him. Then Winston could have been more involved in the story like Hillary was in the movies. I found Hillary and Bryce a much better double act than Zip and Alister. Zip and Alister also make Winston a bit superfluous. Winston and Lara combined could take over Alister's job and Zip could handle the technical side.

NightWish
29-10-07, 11:23
Anyone wondered whats te point of alister? :pi: Zip I can handle but what is alister's purpose

Laras Backpack
29-10-07, 11:32
Anyone wondered whats te point of alister? :pi: Zip I can handle but what is alister's purpose

I don't know for sure but I suspect it's one or all of the following:


Being the 'Exposition Fairy'- i.e. explaining the story through his 'research'
Whining and squeeling like a baby to highlight just how 'awesome' and 'amazing' and 'super' Lara is
Inspiration for homoerotic fan fiction
'Comedy' (note the inverted commas)

:D

He is a bit of a waste of space IMO. I think CD included him so that he could do research behind the scenes and feed the info to Lara so that the game could flow almost continuously. I'm not saying Legend Lara does no research in the game (because she does) but I'd much rather Lara did her research on the go and largely on her own like she did in a few times in TR4 or TR1. Alister should, at most, be a side character like Jean Yves was in TR4. Zip too should be reduced I think. I like the characters in moderation but they are so loud and obnoxious and stereotypical that having them all through the game just makes me hate them.

Lara Croft!
29-10-07, 11:57
Of course he is not dead... AOD was meant to be a trilogy and Kurtis would be a vital character. But Crystal Dynamics is dealing with the Legend series so putting Kurtis inside it just wouldn't fit!

aussie500
29-10-07, 12:06
Anyone wondered whats te point of alister? :pi: Zip I can handle but what is alister's purpose

He is the resident bookworm, he is the one that goes of and does all the boring research, leaving Lara to concentrate on more practical and exciting pursuits.

Shark_Blade
29-10-07, 14:12
Whining and squeeling like a baby to highlight just how 'awesome' and 'amazing' and 'super' Lara is
Inspiration for homoerotic fan fiction

:D:vlol:

larson n natla
29-10-07, 14:14
There's no evidence whatsoever that he died. So everyone needs to stop making false assumptions. And I'd be unhappy if CD ruined him as well.

um how aout the big pool of blood on the floor at the end of aod :ton:

and the fact that laar never meentioned him in legend which means she never found him :D LETS HOPE HES SIXFEET UNDER

Angelus
29-10-07, 14:21
Kurtis didn't die in Angel of Darkness, so he is not dead. He is dead in the sense that he'll never be seen in another video game ever again.

:mis:

randomrhys
29-10-07, 15:16
yes I also think they will probably tie the 2 games (big mistake)

yeah, i agree-i'd love to see natla return but i don't think it'll work cus i'm worried she'll just be thrown in the new game-the emphasis is obviously going to be on lara's mother and avalon and by including natla and atlantis-i think it'll kind of insult the concepts and...i can't think of the word:hea:, but like, the 'power' (sorry about that crap adjective) and originality of them.

but i definitely would like to see a stylish return of natla-but the character doesn't deserve to be just a superficial addition-she has to be the main antagonist-that's how her character is.

Chiki Mina
29-10-07, 19:01
Gosh...people are mean with Kurtis - seriously. Oof! *pulls hair* I got one side bashing at CD and one side bashing at Kurtis/Core/AoD. GIR!:hea: I'm the ham of the sandwhich here!

Kurtis is not dead. I don't think Lara has found him meaning that he probably managed to escape. He probably lost connection to the Chirugai too. So that could be another explanation on why Lara didn't find him.

I agree with Lara Croft!. Legend 1 and 2 is a different plot with the "I want me mommy" plot. Kurtis wouldn't fit in there very well. Unless Karel shows up out of nowhere going after this Avalon business THEN Kurtis MIGHT come back.

To answer NightWish's question on Alister, is simple, really.

Zip is the gadget geek type and is the one who keeps Lara's equipment and technology updated. It's no science on to why Alister is there. He's there to keep Lara updated with myths, info, etc. from the researches he makes. Purpose he's in there is to make a balance. One is good with gadgets, one is a book worm. Both help Lara in her adventures.

Mystery solved. :)

igonge
30-10-07, 21:49
Guys, in TRAOD kurtis dies right? Maybe CD will put him back in!

I think CD are really putting it across like AOD never happened.

walk_man
30-10-07, 21:50
Anything to do with AOD apart from Lara is dead.

NightWish
30-10-07, 22:55
To answer NightWish's question on Alister, is simple, really.

Zip is the gadget geek type and is the one who keeps Lara's equipment and technology updated. It's no science on to why Alister is there. He's there to keep Lara updated with myths, info, etc. from the researches he makes. Purpose he's in there is to make a balance. One is good with gadgets, one is a book worm. Both help Lara in her adventures.

Mystery solved. :)

Lara can do that. Its a part of being an archaeologist

James_Rutland
30-10-07, 23:01
OMGZ!! KURTIS WOULD TOTALLY FIT INTO THE AVALON STORY BY MILEZ!! ZOMG. I TOTALLY LUV KURTIS HES SO CUTE!! OMG!!

No. Seriously, If they brought Kurtis back, at this moment, i would think the story has been wrecked, only if Core would ever continue AOD. But thats It. :rolleyes: Sorry Kurtis fans. :D

NightWish
30-10-07, 23:05
COre didnt write the story - Murty Schofield di (dont know if I spelled his family name right). BTW he wrote the fight club story as far as I know :cln:

ANYWAY he is an independand author not a part from core. If they bring him back the storyline would be done justiice.. But since toby is writing the plots now and he seems to have some confidence he is doing a good job I doubr that will happen. SO yeah the aod continuation will be ruined

Encore
31-10-07, 00:06
BTW he wrote the fight club story as far as I know :cln:

:confused: Jim Uhls wrote the screenplay of the movie, and Chuck Palaniuk wrote the book it's based on.. So... :o

(sorry for going off topic)

NightWish
31-10-07, 00:13
thats my info... I WILL WATCH THE MOVIE AND FIND OUT IN THE CREDITS!

Chiki Mina
31-10-07, 16:49
Lara can do that. Its a part of being an archaeologist

At the same time?

Anyways, is best to finnish Legend. But, I really want them to finnish AoD. If EIDOS says, "No game willl be left INCOMPLETE," then finnish the damn plot.

And yes, include Kurtis - for AoD. Not Legend because he simply has nothing to do with the plot and it will screw it. It's about Lara and her mommy. I love Legend, the tombs, discoveris, Zip & Alister; I just don't like the "I want my mommy back" plot.

demonslayer
31-10-07, 17:09
...Natla from TR1 came back from Anniversary

okay.... of coursre natla comes back in anniversary, she was in the original and dont for get anniversary is basicly a re make of the original.

Tyrannosaurus
31-10-07, 18:48
Since the AOD storyline isn't being continued, Kurtis is effectively dead. Besides, if what I saw (at youtube) was indeed the final cinematic, then it does indeed look like he died. I don't think many people would survive being impaled that way. Not even Lara.

Chiki Mina
31-10-07, 19:08
We don't know that for sure. For now, I guess he is considered "dead" since there is no plot for him.

AoD is discontinued (for now). So makes all the characters "dead" which includes Karel, Kurtis...

Unless if they continue it. Even if they continued with AoD, I still believe Kurtis *is* alive. He is a Lux Veritatis warrior - even though it made him look weak in the game.

NightWish
31-10-07, 21:57
At the same time?


yep thats what they do. Research the artefact, find and take it ;) no point of a whiny enrike iglesias (sp?) lookalike

Treasure Seeker
04-11-07, 01:42
Oh really?
:rolleyes:

i'm not who you think I am.

Treasure Seeker
04-11-07, 04:51
I don't think kurtis is dead,but
CD won't bring him back.:)http://www.tombraiderfantasysite.nl/avatars/tr_avatars.htm

mobian.fox
04-11-07, 18:19
Guys, in TRAOD kurtis dies right? Maybe CD will put him back in! I love kurtis! I have a feeling he's coming back cuz it happens all the time in TR. Natla from TR1 came back from Anniversary, Larson and piere came back in chronicles, von croy came back in aod. See a pattern here? Characters always came back from TR's so maybe kurtis will come back!:D

I honestly doubt that Kurtis will return. To me he is as good as dead. I didnt like playing with him. The game is called Tomb Raider Lara Croft not Kurtis Trent. I dont mean to offend but I'm very spectical about him returning!!;)

silver_wolf
04-11-07, 19:48
I really wish people would just accept the fact the AOD is dead and so is Kurtis. It makes you look desperate.

NightWish
04-11-07, 20:28
I really wish people would just accept the fact the AOD is dead and so is Kurtis. It makes you look desperate.

I really wish people like u stop killing our hopes. :rolleyes: But thats not happening either :p

rowanlim
05-11-07, 01:17
I really wish people would just accept the fact the AOD is dead and so is Kurtis. It makes you look desperate.

oh cmon...is it WRONG for kurtis fans to HOPE for him to come back? dont start spoiling our hopes :(

its like telling a little kid he cant have candy ;)

personally, from the final AOD cutscene, i dont think kurtis is dead, but whether CD will bring him back to the games, only time will tell. i will root for his return. ;)

Dingaling
05-11-07, 01:27
Since the AOD storyline isn't being continued, Kurtis is effectively dead. Besides, if what I saw (at youtube) was indeed the final cinematic, then it does indeed look like he died. I don't think many people would survive being impaled that way. Not even Lara.

Officially - if you look at what Core had planned for The Lost Dominion - then Kurtis was indeed alive. Looking at AOD itself the Churagai 'comes to life' showing that Kurtis is alive. If you look, however and as you said, at CrystalD and not touching AOD or the older games with a barge pole (except TR1 which Toby worked on and although TRA has references to TR2 + there's no evidence to suggest she did go and discover the relevant artefacts) we can say Kurtis is dead in their universe. But in Core's, he is indeed alive. Or at least supposed to be.

CAISACO
05-11-07, 01:27
Since the AOD storyline isn't being continued, Kurtis is effectively dead. Besides, if what I saw (at youtube) was indeed the final cinematic, then it does indeed look like he died. I don't think many people would survive being impaled that way. Not even Lara.

He does have some kind of powers though. I believe he is still alive. Why was his body moved then :confused:
AoD ended with too many questions.

But anyway, he is all in the past, along with all Core work.

Chiki Mina
05-11-07, 01:31
^^I agree.

We can't pronounce him dead because we don't know what happened.

The Chirugai reacted once Lara grabbed it, something that only Kurtis can do whilst calling it.

Genocide
05-11-07, 02:29
Core already ruined him, which is what the problem is, he should have been a great character, lots of potential, unfortunately half the Tomb Raider fans hate him, and probably most of the rest would hate how Crystal Dynamics would change him.(
Crystal would probably **** people off and make Kurtis how he should have been in the first place...

silver_wolf
05-11-07, 22:32
oh cmon...is it WRONG for kurtis fans to HOPE for him to come back? dont start spoiling our hopes :(

its like telling a little kid he cant have candy ;)

personally, from the final AOD cutscene, i dont think kurtis is dead, but whether CD will bring him back to the games, only time will tell. i will root for his return. ;)
No, it's not wrong to hope, but it is unhealthy. Like letting a kid have all the candy he wants, you will grow fat on false hope and be stricken with Kurtibeetus. Sometimes one must say "no" to help others. And I'm sure Core intended to bring Kurtis back, but they're not in charge any more.

domina
06-11-07, 00:53
Since the AOD storyline isn't being continued, Kurtis is effectively dead. Besides, if what I saw (at youtube) was indeed the final cinematic, then it does indeed look like he died. I don't think many people would survive being impaled that way. Not even Lara.

That's what I always think when I see these sorts of threads. Whether or not he died in AOD seems irrelevant since the overall character concept is something that's been left behind by Crystal Dynamics. Not saying that folks can't speculate or do the fan-fiction thing, but actually hoping he'll come back seems pointless.

Chiki Mina
06-11-07, 01:43
Well, I wouldn't say pointless, exactly. I'm one of those people who wants him to come back. The light of hope is a bit dim, but I feel as though he may return.

I remember reading an interview eith Eidos saying that no game of theirs won't be left incomplete. I wouldn't count so much on that, but let's see if they keep their promise.

Chiki Mina
06-11-07, 01:45
I'm sorry about the doubles posts.

rowanlim
06-11-07, 05:24
No, it's not wrong to hope, but it is unhealthy. Like letting a kid have all the candy he wants, you will grow fat on false hope and be stricken with Kurtibeetus. Sometimes one must say "no" to help others. And I'm sure Core intended to bring Kurtis back, but they're not in charge any more.

ok mayb i wasnt realy clear with the kid-wants-candy analogy :p

im thinkin that its like i think most of kurtis fans know that chances of his return are slim, but we STILL hope he'd return anyway. so its kinda REDUNDANT for non-kurtis supporters to tell kurtis fans to giv up. let us giv up on our own steam...its bad enough we know the character may never return, he's constantly criticised/not appreciated by others (which i know is a subjective matter, we're all different people), im not askin for everyone to join the KTTB/KTEB but to jus let us hav our own thingy with kurtis :)

so to risk the kid-wants-candy analogy being slammed (hehe), i'd put it this way: if its bad enough that the kid wants candy his mom/dad aint gonna giv, jus let the kid hope that one day, mom/dad will let him hav the candy. :D

i hope im not spamming :p

silver_wolf
06-11-07, 22:11
okay...

Rivendell
07-11-07, 09:03
With the current abundance of Kurtis threads, it's time to crack down.

This thread can quite easily continue in the following, larger thread:
What IF CD puts Kurtis in? (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=110358)

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