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Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 22:36
I think that, because Tlronline is so busy and since ELEN left (a moment of silence for ELEN) it would be much easier if the members were allowed to change their avatars on their own. Tlronline wouldn't have to constantly check his email, and no one would have to wait for days at a time. It only makes sense, right? So I propose a petition to allow members to change their own avatars via User CP. Yay or Nay?:confused:

Anubis_AF
08-12-07, 22:39
We cannot guarantee that every member will follow the rules; including our T&C - when even now, there are many not paying attention to the rules.

Tomb Raider Master
08-12-07, 22:40
We discussed this many times. Not all members would follow the rule that the pictures shouldn't be 18+, yet that would probably be a massive change for some members.

Lara Croft Fan Joe
08-12-07, 22:40
I agree, I'll probobly get bored of this extremly random avatar some time soon, but not all follow the rules

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 22:44
what exactly are the rules?

tranniversary119
08-12-07, 22:45
I'd rather change my own. I think ive sent 5 emails and they've all had the requirtments trust me i checked. And i still have the same avatar.

Tomb Raider Master
08-12-07, 22:46
Indiana, imagine our young members seeing nudity on avatars... not the mention how blushed Justin would be.

Betal
08-12-07, 22:46
It's not a big problem to me TBH. You just send the avatar and then you get it. What's the problem?:p

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 22:48
It would be sooo much easier for Justin, if giving us the power to do it ourselves is a no-no (And I personally think the reason for that is rather stupid. I'm a member of forums much larger than this and there is no problem with inappropriate avatars at all), if he just gave all the mods the power to change avatars. It'd ease the burden.

kooky
08-12-07, 22:48
what exactly are the rules?

Like if some users who don't follow the T & C were uploading Nudity or inappropriate avatars, only Tlr online can upload avatars for members & mods. ;)

Mr.Burns
08-12-07, 22:50
If people keep changing their avatars every few days, there's also a potential for stress on the server. I think the existing system is fine for now.

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 22:51
I'd rather change my own. I think ive sent 5 emails and they've all had the requirtments trust me i checked. And i still have the same avatar.

same here

I don't see what the problem is. I see what you mean, about people posting nudity and immature stuff like that, but why don't they just get banned from the forum? I say at least give us a test run before deciding that we all have an inability to make rational decisions regarding our avatars. All I'm saying is that it would save all a little time and would make everyone happy. If someone gets out of line, ban them. What's the problem?:confused:

Ladyknowles
08-12-07, 22:51
I think it's a good idea (Y)

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 22:52
If people keep changing their avatars every few days, there's also a potential for stress on the server. I think the existing system is fine for now.
It shouldn't do that either. With most forum softwares that host avs on the server, they just overwrite the old one when the member changes it. Not sure about VB, but it should be the same.

Night Crawler
08-12-07, 22:54
Loads of forums let you change your avatar yourself. I guess what it boils down to is trust.

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 22:56
Why do people just automatically assume that members are going to sieze the opportunity to use inappropriate avatars if we're allowed to change them ourselves?

CroftScionGuard
08-12-07, 22:57
Loads of forums let you change your avatar yourself. I guess what it boils down to is trust.
Allowing a member to post their own avatars is the same as allowing a member to upload whatever they wish as their avatar (and nudity isn't allowed)! It will be complicated for tlr and moderators to control every avatar change!

Why do people just automatically assume that members are going to sieze the opportunity to use inappropriate avatars if we're allowed to change them ourselves?
You may not do that, but different persons have different minds

Cog
08-12-07, 22:58
Why do people just automatically assume that members are going to sieze the opportunity to use inappropriate avatars if we're allowed to change them ourselves?
Because for some of them it's natural to use such avatars. And not a lot of people actually pay attention to T&C.

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 22:59
Allowing a member to post their own avatars is the same as allowing a member to upload whatever they wish as their avatar (and nudity isn't allowed)! It will be complicated for tlr and moderators to control every avatar change!
Yes, but it's even more trouble for them having to change them for us, than it would be to remove an inappropriate one.

Mr.Burns
08-12-07, 22:59
Allowing a member to post their own avatars is the same as allowing a member to upload whatever they wish as their avatar (and nudity isn't allowed)! It will be complicated for tlr and moderators to control every avatar change!

NC and David have a very good point: It's a trust issue and we wouldn't be able to constantly keep track of any potential violators. There would be those that want to test the limits. Having the avatars uploaded by Justin ensures that we don't have that potential risk.

Sara Croft
08-12-07, 23:00
I don't care. It makes it more 'special' if you only can do it once a mounth. :p

CroftScionGuard
08-12-07, 23:00
Yes, but it's even more trouble for them having to change them for us, than it would be to remove an inappropriate one.
Yes, agreed, but if they change them, they can at least control if the image is inapropriate or apropriate!

Dakaruch
08-12-07, 23:02
why are you so stressed about it? can't you wait a day or two until Justin uploads your avatar? if you waited 28 days to change it why can't you wait for a few more days? this seems irrelevant to me:wve:

Paperdoll
08-12-07, 23:04
With a smaller and controlled community? Sure.

With such a wide and broad community as TRF? A definite no no.

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 23:05
I've seen alot of other forums and message boards, and NONE of them had inappropriate things for avatars. I think we should be given the chance to prove ourselves adult enough to be able to change our own avatars. If immaturity is the only reason people think we shouldn't be able to change our avatars, than that's completely not fair to the members of this forum who are mature enough and want to be able to do this.

Dakaruch
08-12-07, 23:08
the problem is that there are members here that are not mature enough to not do that... there are immature people everywhere, a forum is not an exception! some avatars do not show nudity yet some images can be disturbing enough! imagine that someone makes a pic full of blood and/or mutilated bodies... isn't that a disturbing avatar?

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 23:10
why are you so stressed about it? can't you wait a day or two until Justin uploads your avatar? if you waited 28 days to change it why can't you wait for a few more days? this seems irrelevant to me:wve:

Alot of us have tried doing it Justin's way but we're STILL waiting for our avatars to change. I've tried on several different occasions and it still hasn't changed. And I know everything is in the right format. Yes, it's only a picture that goes under your screen name but it's rediculous for us to have to wait so long for it to change, and it's rediculous for Justin to have to change over 1,000 peoples avatars himself!

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 23:10
How about a compromise?

Those who have been known to request good avs that are in no way inappropriate get to change it themselves, but those who are either new, or have borderline avs don't.

Although, really would be so much easier for everyone if we could change our own. If you look at larger forums that allow it then you will see that it is not that much of a problem, if it is a problem at all. Here is no exception.

CroftScionGuard
08-12-07, 23:12
I've seen alot of other forums and message boards, and NONE of them had inappropriate things for avatars. I think we should be given the chance to prove ourselves adult enough to be able to change our own avatars. If immaturity is the only reason people think we shouldn't be able to change our avatars, than that's completely not fair to the members of this forum who are mature enough and want to be able to do this.
True! But remember that it isn't a question of maturity only, but a question of T&C! There could be members that could break those rules.

Allowing to us members to change avatars would be nice and better for tlr, of course, but think what would happen if TRF "runs out of control". It would be a complicated matter.

A member posted a promising image, other liked and post another more promising, and then TRF is filled with pics, probably obscenes! Then what will trl and moderators do? Ban the member? maybe that would be a good punishment, but then trl would have to change all avatars... countless!

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 23:13
the problem is that there are members here that are not mature enough to not do that... there are immature people everywhere, a forum is not an exception! some avatars do not show nudity yet some images can be disturbing enough! imagine that someone makes a pic full of blood and/or mutilated bodies... isn't that a disturbing avatar?

you've got to be kidding me. Yes, images of such nature are disturbing and offensive, but jeeze! People think that if we're allowed to change our avatars 2000+ members are going to cause pandemonium and use the most raunchy, grostesque and horrifying avatars imaginable. Probablity wise, it might, MIGHT happen once every month or so. If that. I just think people are over reacting.

Betal
08-12-07, 23:14
All forums I ever been to let you upload your own avatars. And that works pretty well.

Dakaruch
08-12-07, 23:18
Alot of us have tried doing it Justin's way but we're STILL waiting for our avatars to change. I've tried on several different occasions and it still hasn't changed. And I know everything is in the right format. Yes, it's only a picture that goes under your screen name but it's rediculous for us to have to wait so long for it to change, and it's rediculous for Justin to have to change over 1,000 peoples avatars himself!

well first a big "slice of the cake" of the members on TRF do not even use an Avatar, therefore Justin do not have to change so many avatars! besides if he do not give the power to any other person to change avatars, then it's because he think that he can handle that task!
i remember that i emailed justin in one day and on the same day, a few hours later he uploaded my avatar! imo it's a bad idea to let members change their avatars, because there are many people that eventually could upload an image that violated T&C, maybe not even on purpose, but it could happen...

Tihocan9
08-12-07, 23:20
All forums I ever been to let you upload your own avatars. And that works pretty well.

Same here, and this place has mods that are dedicated enough to see to it that the avatar would be changed immediatly if inapropriate. But sence that is probobly not gonna be done I think that allowing mods to change avatars as well is a great idea, memebers could send it to any of the mods and ask them to chnage it but members should know that mods are not here all the time to change them so have a change time frame of a few days.

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 23:25
So am I to understand that not even a TEST RUN is within the relm of possibility when it comes to giving members the ability to change their avatar themselves when immaturity is the only factor involved in it not being being one of our privelages now? That isn't fair in a variety of ways.

CroftScionGuard
08-12-07, 23:28
So am I to understand that not even a TEST RUN is within the relm of possibility when it comes to giving members the ability to change their avatar themselves when immaturity is the only factor involved in it not being being one of our privelages now? That isn't fair in a variety of ways.
Not to give an idea to start doing so, but if the number of PMs to change avatars increase a lot, tlr may change things. But imo things are well as they are now!

EDIT:
Btw, just because I quoted what you said, it doesn't mean I think tlr is going to allow us to change our avatars

SamReeves
08-12-07, 23:30
The issue here is that something very bad could happen to Justin if an illegal avatar appeared on the forums. I wouldn't be willing to take that chance. Therefore the current policy is correct and there's really no need for debate.

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 23:31
The issue here is that something very bad could happen to Justin if an illegal avatar appeared on the forums. I wouldn't be willing to take that chance. Therefore the current policy is correct and there's really no need for debate.
What type of image could be illegal? :confused:

It can't be porn - bots post that all the time, so I can't think of anything else.

Dakaruch
08-12-07, 23:32
honestly i think that tlr is running things the best way he can, and in the way he thinks is best! if he thinks that we should not be able to change our avatars by ourselves then he might have his reasons!

if you think that things are not well the way they are, the best is to contact him and show him your point of view! for me things are good the way they are...

Bumio
08-12-07, 23:32
oh come on, why some of u can say that it wont gonna fly if we didnt try this system? lets just try it. if most of members will change their avatars to naked or bloody avatars, then the system can be canceled and we'll gonna get back to "sending email to tlr online" :wve:

CroftScionGuard
08-12-07, 23:33
What type of image could be illegal? :confused:

Nudity, pornography, obscenes, or with sexual content! Also: gore!

They aren't allowed

EDIT:
oh come on, why some of u can say that it wont gonna fly if we didnt try this system? lets just try it. if most of members will change their avatars to naked or bloody avatars, then the system can be canceled and we'll gonna get back to "sending email to tlr online" :wve:
Let's say that tlr has a button to reset all avatars at the same time! What will happen then? Members would start PMing him to request avatars. How many members are there?

MiCkiZ88
08-12-07, 23:33
What type of image could be illegal? :confused:

It can't be porn - bots post that all the time, so I can't think of anything else.Take a leaked picture from a tr game for an example. Justin can't have people posting leaked pictures nor having them as their avatars. Or something that offends. Racism for an example.

Mr.Burns
08-12-07, 23:33
Moderators can take immediate control of a bot's thread, if someone is online at the time. A person's avatar is not something that one of us can simply remove. I understand the desire to have more liberties here but given the potential risks, it may not be worth it. Of course this is just my perspective on it. Justin could very well have another, I don't know.

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 23:35
Nudity, pornography, obscenes, or with sexual content!

They aren't allowed
Yes, but Justin can't get in trouble for that. It's in the T&C that he and the forum are not responsible for what is posted and that would include avatars.

Plus, if you had read the rest of my post, spam bots post that all the time. Meaning that if Justin could get in trouble for that, pretty much every forum admin in the world would be facing legal troubles because they post that crap anywhere.

Mr.Burns
08-12-07, 23:36
Yes, but Justin can't get in trouble for that. It's in the T&C that he and the forum are not responsible for what is posted and that would include avatars.

Yes David, he can still get in trouble. Just because it says that such info isn't allowed doesn't mean he can't still incur the legal wrath of some angry parents. Better safe than sorry.

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 23:37
Yes David, he can still get in trouble. Just because it says that such info isn't allowed doesn't mean he can't still incur the legal wrath of some angry parents. Better safe than sorry.
If I was an angry parent, I'd be angry at the person posting the obscenity, rather than the site owner. But that's just me.

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 23:38
Why do some of you guys think that only negative things can result from giving us the ability to change our avatars?

Ward Dragon
08-12-07, 23:38
If Justin doesn't have enough time to deal with the avatars himself, then maybe he could arrange it so that mods can upload avatars as well. That seems like the best idea to me rather than running the risk that someone will have an illegal or obscene avatar :)

If I was an angry parent, I'd be angry at the person posting the obscenity, rather than the site owner. But that's just me.

Unfortunately not everyone is as rational as you. Some of the lawsuits I've heard of are just ridiculous :eek:

Mr.Burns
08-12-07, 23:40
If I was an angry parent, I'd be angry at the person posting the obscenity, rather than the site owner. But that's just me.

Why do some of you guys think that only negative things can result from giving us the ability to change our avatars?


Experience has taught me that the perps aren't the ones that families and parents go after. A site owner is the one that will get the legal headache.

kooky
08-12-07, 23:41
Why do some of you guys think that only negative things can result from giving us the ability to change our avatars?

I'm sorry, but I disagree, Justin should continue uploading our avatars, if you want to send avatar to Justin so bad, Fine, Join Yahoo or MSN, Title the e-mail "Avatar Request" & he will upload it for you, it's that simple! :tmb: ;)

CroftScionGuard
08-12-07, 23:43
Yes, but Justin can't get in trouble for that. It's in the T&C that he and the forum are not responsible for what is posted and that would include avatars.

Plus, if you had read the rest of my post, spam bots post that all the time. Meaning that if Justin could get in trouble for that, pretty much every forum admin in the world would be facing legal troubles because they post that crap anywhere.
I don't know what problems tlr can get, but he's responsible for TRF, and so he keeps thing as he wants! I don't blame you or any member to want to change the avatar when wishes come up!

Also, think what TRF visitors would think about TRF if they come here and see sexual content? They will think: "ah, here's a forum where he can speak of sex".

A person's avatar is not something that one of us can simply remove.
I suspected that! Tlr alone uploading avatars... probably taking his time... but at least it is a safe way!

Mark, maybe moderators should also be able to upload avatars (suggestion)

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 23:43
Experience has taught me that the perps aren't the ones that families and parents go after. A site owner is the one that will get the legal headache.
Actually, Justin could disable avatars for guests again. Then if anything obscene only members would be able to see it. Most 13 year olds (age limit) are old enough to look at something like that and be fine with it, and if the person happens to be at an age where they can't handle it, they shouldn't even be on the forum anyway.

MiCkiZ88
08-12-07, 23:44
Why do some of you guys think that only negative things can result from giving us the ability to change our avatars?It's TRF baby!

No, seriously this has been discussed so many times and people have agreed that it is best for the admin change the avatars for you. Of course Justin could use it so that we have to wait for him or other admins/mods to allow the avatar we've uploaded. That or have mods to upload the avatars aswell.

Dakaruch
08-12-07, 23:45
I'm sorry, but I disagree, Justin should continue uploading our avatars, if you want to send avatar to Justin so bad, Fine, Join Yahoo or MSN, Title the e-mail "Avatar Request" & he will upload it for you, it's that simple! :tmb: ;)

well it's not necessary to use Yahoo or MSN! i use Gmail to send an email to Justin and he always uploaded my avatars...

and again i say, if Justin is the only one who can upload avatars, then that's because he considers that he is more than able to handle the situation! at least so far...

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 23:46
well it's not necessary to use Yahoo or MSN! i use Gmail to send an email to Justin and he always uploaded my avatars...

and again i say, if Justin is the only one who can upload avatars, then that's because he considers that he is more than able to handle the situation! at least so far...
He isn't. Super mods and Bokkie can too :)

kooky
08-12-07, 23:49
well it's not necessary to use Yahoo or MSN! i use Gmail to send an email to Justin and he always uploaded my avatars...

and again i say, if Justin is the only one who can upload avatars, then that's because he considers that he is more than able to handle the situation! at least so far...

Agreed here! :tmb: I don't want people to upload their own Avatars, It is best that we send it to Justin. :) I mean there are forums, like the Eidos forums, they don't have avatars period... :(

Dakaruch
08-12-07, 23:50
He isn't. Super mods and Bokkie can too :)

then i don't know why are you all complaining about! if the situation is too complicated for him to handle, then he will always can put Bokkie and Super mods doing that job aswell!

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 23:50
No one has answered the question I've asked repeatitively. Why can't we do a TRIAL RUN on the avatar thing?

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 23:51
then i don't know why are you all complaining about! if the situation is too complicated for him to handle, then he will always can put Bokkie and Super mods doing that job aswell!
Because neither of them have opted for us to do so.
No one has answered the question I've asked repeatitively. Why can we do a TRIAL RUN on the avatar thing?
Agreed, we should at the very least give it a try. If it works, keep it, but if it doesn't then I'll be fine with the email thing.

Dakaruch
08-12-07, 23:52
No one has answered the question I've asked repeatitively. Why can we do a TRIAL RUN on the avatar thing?

because we don't have the power to answer that, the only one who can answer that is Justin(i guess)




@xcrushterx-and you're agreeing with me! since they are not uploading those, then it's because Justin is capable of handling the avatar demand...

Indiana Croft
08-12-07, 23:52
I don't mean that. I mean why don't some of you think that a Trial Run should be done at all?

CroftScionGuard
08-12-07, 23:53
No one has answered the question I've asked repeatitively. Why can we do a TRIAL RUN on the avatar thing?
I think this (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=2302860&postcount=29) answers your point;)

@xcrustersx: Wow, I'm jealous. You have a beuatiful name!

MiCkiZ88
08-12-07, 23:56
Agreed, we should at the very least give it a try. If it works, keep it, but if it doesn't then I'll be fine with the email thing.To choose between 'safe' and 'possible disaster'. Hmm.. I'll go with safe. But it is all up to Justin in the end.

I'm fine with the system we have already. And I don't have the need to change mine every day or so. :rolleyes:
Seriously though it's just avatars and waiting a few days to get yours changed. What's the big deal when it's perfectly safe?

xcrushterx
08-12-07, 23:56
@xcrushterx-and you're agreeing with me! since they are not uploading those, then it's because Justin is capable of handling the avatar demand...No, because neither the super mods, nor Bokkie have opted for us to contact them. If they offer to do it, I'm sure Justin would be happy to let the,



@xcrustersx: Wow, I'm jealous. You have a beuatiful name!
Random, lol. My actual name or username?:confused:

SamReeves
08-12-07, 23:57
Okay we're beating a dead horse here. I sure hope there is no change in policy because it can lead to bigger problems.

http://www.samreevesphoto.com/posts/deadhorse.gif

God Horus
08-12-07, 23:57
Unless Justins gets someone else to do the avatar checking and changing for him. I mean, sure it's a hard job, but some members might not really mind. I mean, I spend most my internet time on TRF.

kooky
08-12-07, 23:59
Okay we're beating a dead horse here. I sure hope there is no change in policy because it can lead to bigger problems.


I agree with Sam, this discussion is just like beating a dead horse. :(

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 00:07
WHY IS THIS SUCH A DEBATE?
We're talking about little pictures that go under our freaking screen names! Those of you who keep saying that we should stick with the current system constantly use the whole obscenities things as the only thing to support your claim. If that's the only reason you think that we shouldn't even be allowed to do a little test run to upload our avatars, than the only thing your brought to the table was a napkin. It is so unreasonable to think that only chaos can ensue from this.

CroftScionGuard
09-12-07, 00:16
WHY IS THIS SUCH A DEBATE?
We're talking about little pictures that go under our freaking screen names! Those of you who keep saying that we should stick with the current system constantly use the whole obscenities things as the only thing to support your claim. If that's the only reason you think that we shouldn't even be allowed to do a little test run to upload our avatars, than the only thing your brought to the table was a napkin. It is so unreasonable to think that only chaos can ensue from this.
You're turning this an headache for you! Calm yourself!

Remember that having TRF safe is topic number one! tlr is the one that can answer that! ask a moderator if he/she can wake up tlr and answer here!

@xcrustersx: your actual name;)

Mad Tony
09-12-07, 00:18
I think the current system is absolutely fine. It ensures nothing inappropriate gets uploaded and as Mark pointed out, doesn't really put much of a strain on the forum.

Also, for those people who think it would be too hard on Justin, do you really think he'd tell us to send all avatar requests to him if he thought he couldn't handle it?

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 00:27
All that I am saying is that it would just be easier for everyone. Yes safety is important but calm down. Again, the forums is a very tightly knit community and I highly doubt the things you guys think is going to happen will actually happen. And I realize that Justin can handle doing this avatar thing, but in the end it will only be easier for everyone.

Mad Tony
09-12-07, 00:29
but in the end it will only be easier for everyone.Question is, would it be worth it?

I don't think it'd benefit that many people here, judging by what other members have said earlier in this thread.

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 00:40
why wouldn't it be worth it? Again, people are overreacting.

Legends
09-12-07, 00:42
As nice as it would be to change our own avatars, the forum server would be a lot busier, a lot slower, and it wouldn't just be positive things about it. Not all the members would follow the rules, and speaking as a person who's had a fair share of explicit avatars, they don't fall in the right place for everyone. People have different views, and I think someone needs to make the decision if the new picture gets uploaded. That might seem as a lot of work for the moderators, but I think there would be more work for them if avatars were uploaded by ourselves.

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 00:46
I still think that a trial run would be the fairest approach

myrmaad
09-12-07, 01:10
I'd rather change my own. I think ive sent 5 emails and they've all had the requirtments trust me i checked. And i still have the same avatar.

Isn't the real problem that there are some people who feel they aren't getting an answer when they request a new avatar? Maybe our time would be better spent figuring out what went wrong with the system.


I really don't think Justin's going to change the system in any significant manner.

tranniversary119
09-12-07, 01:16
^ I've already tried to figure out what was wrong. I pm'd justin and got no reply. He's obviously been very busy.So therefore it's useless to even ask because he won't reply and im sure nobody else knows. But still i see people with new avatars everyday and some people just have to wait "28" days. And it's already been 28 days for me. But i think we could do it on our own but maybe we still could only change it every "__" days.

Tihocan9
09-12-07, 01:16
Isn't the real problem that there are some people who feel they aren't getting an answer when they request a new avatar? Maybe our time would be better spent figuring out what went wrong with the system.


I really don't think Justin's going to change the system in any significant manner.

possibly the reason they didn't get an answer is because they didn't fill out the email as it should be sent. Justin made specific guidelines to follow when sending a avatar in and he said if you don't follow them your request will be ignored, he doest have time to tell everyone that fills it out wrong that they did so wrongly, if you read the avatars new rules you will see how to correctly ask for one.

^ I've already tried to figure out what was wrong. I pm'd justin and got no reply. He's obviously been very busy.So therefore it's useless to even ask because he won't reply and im sure nobody else knows. But still i see people with new avatars everyday and some people just have to wait "28" days. And it's already been 28 days for me. But i think we could do it on our own but maybe we still could only change it every "__" days.

He said in his sticky thread that he does not respond to pms unless they are abuse on the forum all others will be deleted. You have to email him for Avatar change.

For anyone who hasn't seen the new Avatar request system and thinks Justin is ingoring your request see it here to see if you are doing it right.: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=111610

Quasimodo
09-12-07, 01:26
I don't have a problem with the current avatar rules- on the plus side it's easier to recognise who has posted what at a glance when their avatar doesn't change often.

Melonie Tomb Raider
09-12-07, 01:50
I don't have a problem with the rules, personally.

However, I don't see a problem with letting people upload their own. The forums I go to that allow you to do so don't seem to have a problem with inappropriate avatars.

Still, I can understand the rule, and I have no problem with it.

vespertea
09-12-07, 01:55
I'd imagine that letting users upload their avatars would not only be less work the users but also for Justin & Co.

Of all the forums I visit, a number of them being 17+ forums, I rarely see offensive avatars (and the upload system is user-controlled). If there were any offensive avatars, then the user should be contacted and have their icon temporarily removed until it can be replaced.

That seems more logical to me. But whatever, I don't administrate forums, so I might not have room to talk.

aussie500
09-12-07, 02:52
I still think that a trial run would be the fairest approach

Well since you seem to be the one doing most of the complaining, naturally you would think it reasonable Indiana Croft. The same rules that apply to the forum apply to avatars, mods and admin are always removing inappropriate material from the forum, so why would Justin think the members any more capable of following the rules where avatars are concerned, it might only be a few who break the rules, but it is enough.

It is a lot harder to check avatar's than it is to check posts, obviously Justin thinks it easier to have more control over what the members choose as appropriate for an avatar. Complaining about it is not going to improve anything, perhaps in order to save himself all this trouble Justin might just decide to no longer have avatars, then he will not have to put up with people complaining just because it takes a few days to change their avatar. Certainly it would relieve the stress on the server not having avatars, Justin pays the bills, its his forum, he decides the rules. We all do our best to make the forum as safe and enjoyable for everyone as we can, but it seems all you want to do is complain Indiana Croft, some of us are getting tired of seeing you flog this dead horse.

http://www.samreevesphoto.com/posts/deadhorse.gif

Thorir
09-12-07, 02:58
Iīve never seen any inappropriate avatars at other forums, even bigger than this one.

If someone uploads something bad, ban the member for not reading the rules.
I am sure 99,9% will behave themselves perfectly. :)

If itīs entirely impossible, maybe regular mods could upload avatars?

domina
09-12-07, 03:01
I've always thought it was a bit silly to make us request them through the mods/admins as well. As others have said, I'm a part of plenty of other forums, both bigger and smaller, with the ability to change my avatar as I see fit; rarely do I see problems with inappropriate avatars popping up. It just seems overly cautious to me.

But whatever. It's not a huge problem for me; I just don't think it's necessary.

vespertea
09-12-07, 03:01
We all do our best to make the forum as safe and enjoyable for everyone as we can, but it seems all you want to do is complain Indiana Croft, some of us are getting tired of seeing you flog this dead horse.

http://www.samreevesphoto.com/posts/deadhorse.gif


Oh.

I thought it was a camel.


but apparently i am wrong. :(

I've always thought it was a bit silly to make us request them through the mods/admins as well. As others have said, I'm a part of plenty of other forums, both bigger and smaller, with the ability to change my avatar as I see fit; rarely do I see problems with inappropriate avatars popping up. It just seems overly cautious to me.

But whatever. It's not a huge problem for me; I just don't think it's necessary.

Same. It's a hassle, and kind of silly. But if it's absolutely necessary, I guess it's not so bad.

Quasimodo
09-12-07, 03:04
http://www.samreevesphoto.com/posts/deadhorse.gif

I wonder if Betal has seen this yet :p

xMiSsCrOfTx
09-12-07, 03:05
Oh.

I thought it was a camel.

So did I... :whi:

Some forums don't even allow avatars. We should feel lucky to even have any at all.

Ward Dragon
09-12-07, 03:06
on the plus side it's easier to recognise who has posted what at a glance when their avatar doesn't change often.

Hey, I do that too, doggy-with-flower-hat!...I mean Quasimodo :p

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 03:43
Well since you seem to be the one doing most of the complaining, naturally you would think it reasonable Indiana Croft. The same rules that apply to the forum apply to avatars, mods and admin are always removing inappropriate material from the forum, so why would Justin think the members any more capable of following the rules where avatars are concerned, it might only be a few who break the rules, but it is enough.

It is a lot harder to check avatar's than it is to check posts, obviously Justin thinks it easier to have more control over what the members choose as appropriate for an avatar. Complaining about it is not going to improve anything, perhaps in order to save himself all this trouble Justin might just decide to no longer have avatars, then he will not have to put up with people complaining just because it takes a few days to change their avatar. Certainly it would relieve the stress on the server not having avatars, Justin pays the bills, its his forum, he decides the rules. We all do our best to make the forum as safe and enjoyable for everyone as we can, but it seems all you want to do is complain Indiana Croft, some of us are getting tired of seeing you flog this dead horse.

http://www.samreevesphoto.com/posts/deadhorse.gif

Well, what should I do? Send Justin ANOTHER PM or Email that he'll ignore because they don't have the avatar request format or abuse format? I didn't set out with this thread to just voice my opinion and *****. I actually want to see if this is within the realm of possiblity. Plenty of other people feel the same way and I think that it's perfectly reasonable to be able to upload our avatars. Other forums do this and they experience no negative results. Why can't we give it a whirl? Again, I'm not trying to beat a dead horse lol. I just wanted a little change. Why is this being able to upload our avatar thing such a big deal?

rowanlim
09-12-07, 03:58
could someone help justin? because i don't like the idea of members changing their avatars by themselves... :p

i like mine...:rolleyes:

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 04:00
could someone help justin? because i don't like the idea of members changing their avatars by themselves... :p

i like mine...:rolleyes:

seriously, I mean if we have to settle at least enable us to send avatar requests to more than just 3 people

aussie500
09-12-07, 04:05
Well, what should I do? Send Justin ANOTHER PM or Email that he'll ignore because they don't have the avatar request format or abuse format? I didn't set out with this thread to just voice my opinion and *****. I actually want to see if this is within the realm of possiblity. Plenty of other people feel the same way and I think that it's perfectly reasonable to be able to upload our avatars. Other forums do this and they experience no negative results. Why can't we give it a whirl? Again, I'm not trying to beat a dead horse lol. I just wanted a little change. Why is this being able to upload our avatar thing such a big deal?

Because you have been told how to get a new avatar, and how frequently you can do it, that's it end of story. The only one making a big deal out of not wanting to follow the rules the rest of us do is yourself.
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=111610

l survive quite fine with a few forums that do not avatars, true on many you can change your own, on this one you cannot. What's the problem Indiana Croft, are you one of those that just has to have a new avatar everyday or something.

Most likely you were ignored because the request was not in the right format, or you were simply to impatient to wait.

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 04:31
oh, my aren't we miss attitude? :ohn:
You got a problem? Take a tylenol. But don't try to make me out to be this unpleasable complainer! I can survive with the avatar rule, miss thang. AS I'VE SAID all I wanted to do was make the forum member's lives a little easier. And for your information aussie, I'm not making a big deal out of this. Yes, this has become a debate of sorts, but I'm not the one who just turned this into WWE smack down. Now it's cool that you like the current avatar set up. That's just fine, but when you start to say things like I'm impatient when you haven't even had a real conversation with me, you crossed a line. Now, then, was what you said actually necessary?

vespertea
09-12-07, 05:18
seriously, I mean if we have to settle at least enable us to send avatar requests to more than just 3 people

I agree with this, too, actually.

aussie500
09-12-07, 05:53
oh, my aren't we miss attitude? :ohn:
You got a problem? Take a tylenol. But don't try to make me out to be this unpleasable complainer! I can survive with the avatar rule, miss thang. AS I'VE SAID all I wanted to do was make the forum member's lives a little easier. And for your information aussie, I'm not making a big deal out of this. Yes, this has become a debate of sorts, but I'm not the one who just turned this into WWE smack down. Now it's cool that you like the current avatar set up. That's just fine, but when you start to say things like I'm impatient when you haven't even had a real conversation with me, you crossed a line. Now, then, was what you said actually necessary?

l never said l liked it, l accept it, it is part of the rules, l am not about to start some crusade because l do not like the way admin choose to run things. l happen to like being a part of this forum, and the rules are quite reasonable, l do not see why any mature adult (or teenager) would find it to difficult to send a simple email request with the relevant details, if they wanted a new avatar. Obviously those that cannot manage that are not going to get their avatar changed, no matter how much they complain. :mis:

Geck-o-Lizard
09-12-07, 07:56
Y'know, another reason for the avatars being as they are is a bandwidth issue. Each person's avatar uses up more bandwidth than most of their actual posts. Having you guys changing your avatars every couple of days would end up in far more bandwidth being used up than is currently consumed, the end result of which would be a snail's-pace forum.

Legend 4ever
09-12-07, 08:15
I actually like how it is now. Because it is different, and because that way we can remember a preson because we see his/her avatar every day.

As the matter of fact, I think this will be my avatar forever now, I have found what people like and it is unique and memorable.

I must say I think the charm of these forums is also in this rule that avatars change monthly. I like it and not to mention the rule breaking possibility and bandwidth situation.

Why are you trying to change good things?

Mona Sax
09-12-07, 09:06
It would actually be much harder for us to check your avatars and track down the few people who'd use the opportunity to post inappropriate stuff if everybody could upload their own.

Anubis_AF
09-12-07, 09:10
but why don't they just get banned from the forum?
Why should we even get to that stage? Why fight when you can prevent? Again, this opens a lot of opportunities for members to take advantage of this - and even one is enough.
Yes, but it's even more trouble for them having to change them for us, than it would be to remove an inappropriate one.
Not necessarily. At least by having admins upload it, we won't look back. But if members were to upload the avatars by themselves, we'd have to constantly overlook everyone's avatar.. and imagine the effort it would take.

Mister_Creazil
09-12-07, 09:16
I don't find avatars the first priority for this forum now ELEN has left. I'm happy with how it is now.

Lew
09-12-07, 14:16
Well if you won't change it then at least make us have images in our signatures! or at least something other than text.

Betal
09-12-07, 14:21
I wonder if Betal has seen this yet :p

TBH I only laughed when I saw it. xD :D

(If a horse ever come near me I will get scared to death)

raiderfun
09-12-07, 14:26
Then the only solution I can see is the following : If someone doesn't respect the avatars's rules, he gets a warning and If he gets three of those, he gets banned ! But if someone posts a bad picture, then he gets banned instantaneously ;)

danitiwa
09-12-07, 15:09
I think that, because Tlronline is so busy and since ELEN left (a moment of silence for ELEN) it would be much easier if the members were allowed to change their avatars on their own. Tlronline wouldn't have to constantly check his email, and no one would have to wait for days at a time. It only makes sense, right? So I propose a petition to allow members to change their own avatars via User CP. Yay or Nay?:confused:

Ditto, I sent mine about a week ago, and haven't gotten it, it would make it easier for everyone.

Legend 4ever
09-12-07, 15:12
Well, I can't believe what you are saying. When I sent mine couple of days ago, it was changed in a few hours. You must have done sth wrong in the e-mail.

danitiwa
09-12-07, 15:19
Well, I can't believe what you are saying. When I sent mine couple of days ago, it was changed in a few hours. You must have done sth wrong in the e-mail.
I sent mine TWICE three for the last two weeks, and it hasn't been changed. :confused:
Iīve never seen any inappropriate avatars at other forums, even bigger than this one.

If someone uploads something bad, ban the member for not reading the rules.
I am sure 99,9% will behave themselves perfectly. :)

If itīs entirely impossible, maybe regular mods could upload avatars?

:tmb:

Nannonxyay
09-12-07, 15:33
I agree 100%! Yes!

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 15:58
l never said l liked it, l accept it, it is part of the rules, l am not about to start some crusade because l do not like the way admin choose to run things. l happen to like being a part of this forum, and the rules are quite reasonable, l do not see why any mature adult (or teenager) would find it to difficult to send a simple email request with the relevant details, if they wanted a new avatar. Obviously those that cannot manage that are not going to get their avatar changed, no matter how much they complain. :mis:

You really like instigating things, don't you? I really don't need to continue this little disagreement with you further because you obviously haven't paid attention to anything that I've said. So as far as I'm concerned my conversation with you is over

Larson_1988
09-12-07, 16:05
How about if Justin set some members as helpers who could upload avatars?

MiCkiZ88
09-12-07, 16:09
How about if Justin set some members as helpers who could upload avatars?Popularity contest much? See who is the biggest suck up to help Justin. :rolleyes:
Sure I get that people care about this forum.

Meh. I'm still happy with the current system.

Veronica Ma
09-12-07, 16:11
Meh. I'm still happy with the current system.Me too... I've NEVER had a problem. :D

xcrushterx
09-12-07, 16:14
Why don't we just have a poll.

Seriously though, inappropriate avatars just don't happen much, or at all on forums larger than this one. All the mods are doing is inconveniancing yourselves. And if you're so worried about such a situation cropping up, just give all your mods the power to remove avatars, then it'd be pretty much just as easy to get rid of as spam bots are.

@what anubis said a few pages ago: you won't be on constant watch for bad ones. If a bad one should crop up, members will more than likely report it.

Jacob x5
09-12-07, 16:16
We could have a 'report avatar' feature. There are more sensible members here than there are trouble-makers. If we saw an avatar that we thought innappropriate, we could send a report to the moderators.

Tthe Spirit
09-12-07, 16:17
We could have a 'report avatar' feature. There are more sensible members here than there are trouble-makers. If we saw an avatar that we thought innappropriate, we could send a report to the moderators.
^^^ Sounds very sensible.
The best thing is that mods may help justin uploading avatars.

Veronica Ma
09-12-07, 16:18
We could have a 'report avatar' feature. Sorry, this just made me laugh. :vlol:

Tthe Spirit
09-12-07, 16:20
Sorry, this just made me laugh. :vlol:

What's wrong with it?
I think it is prettty good :p :p
lol...

myrmaad
09-12-07, 16:21
How about if Justin set some members as helpers who could upload avatars?

I actually don't think this is a bad idea. I don't want to be a moderator at all but I would be willing to do something like this because I am concerned that people are becoming frustrated. I love the forum, and just want what's best.

tlr online
09-12-07, 16:23
I actually don't think this is a bad idea. I don't want to be a moderator at all but I would be willing to do something like this because I am concerned that people are becoming frustrated. I love the forum, and just want what's best.

There are no outstanding avatars to be uploaded. Why would folk be frustrated? If folk are still waiting for their avatars to be changed, then they will be waiting for a long time because they won't have followed my simple rules.

Once again, there are no outsanding avatars to upload and new avatar requests are usually changed within a few hours.

Also. Mona will be assisting with this process in due course.

Tthe Spirit
09-12-07, 16:23
I actually don't think this is a bad idea. I don't want to be a moderator at all but I would be willing to do something like this because I am concerned that people are becoming frustrated. I love the forum, and just want what's best.


You know, you are one great person.
At mature chat you seem like a generous mother, so maybe you can be a good helper.:tmb::tmb:

^^^^ what does an outstanding avatar mean?

Larson_1988
09-12-07, 16:23
I actually don't think this is a bad idea. I don't want to be a moderator at all but I would be willing to do something like this because I am concerned that people are becoming frustrated. I love the forum, and just want what's best.

Yes, same here. To help a little, :)

clairelovestlc
09-12-07, 16:24
Well, I can't believe what you are saying. When I sent mine couple of days ago, it was changed in a few hours.



Same here. My current avatar i emailed over during my lunch break, when i came home in the evening and checked the forum it had already changed!

I assume it would be an absolute nightmare to check EVERYONES avatars frequently to see if people have changed them to something inappropriate, especially due to the number of members this site has.

At the end of the day surely an avatar isn't "that" important, its just a little picture.

myrmaad
09-12-07, 16:27
There are no outstanding avatars to be uploaded. Why would folk be frustrated? If folk are still waiting for their avatars to be changed, then they will be waiting for a long time because they won't have followed my simple rules.

Once again, there are no outsanding avatars to upload and new avatar requests are usually changed within a few hours.

Also. Mona will be assisting with this process in due course.


That's good to know, Justin, thanks!

:)

Maybe we could take a look at the processes that went awry then, if you requested an avatar and it wasn't changed, could you please post a copy of your request and the avatar on this thread?


@Tthe Spirit, that was very kind of you to say. :hug:

tlr online
09-12-07, 16:32
Good idea. Here is a reminder of the rules.

AVATARS

Avatars are small images which appear under your username and are unique to each member. In a small change of policy and to better distribute our workload, all avatars must be emailed to me and must meet the below requirements.


Avatars must be no larger 128x128 pixels in dimension
Avatars must be no larger than 10K in size
Avatars may be changed once per 28 days
Avatars must be attached to an email and mailed to support [at] tombraiderchronicles.com
You MUST include a link to your profile in your email. i.e. my profile link is here (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/member.php?u=7).


Your avatar request will be ignored if:


Any of the above requirements are not met
Links to images are emailed instead of images being attached


If you need help resizing or preparing your avatar, please see this thread (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=86561) where our fine forum members will be able to assist you.

Thank you.

danitiwa
09-12-07, 16:43
I'll double check then. :pi:

myrmaad
09-12-07, 16:47
If you need help resizing or preparing your avatar, please see this thread where our fine forum members will be able to assist you.

Justin, on that thread they are being sticklers for only posting the animated avatars that need resizing...

george_croft
09-12-07, 16:47
I got mine within five minutes, so i don't really consider this a problem. o.O

Anubis_AF
09-12-07, 16:54
@what anubis said a few pages ago: you won't be on constant watch for bad ones. If a bad one should crop up, members will more than likely report it.
That's not guaranteed enough, unless you're 100% sure - which we aren't.

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 17:11
I guess this is a shut and closed case, then. Seriously, I never set out to stir up this huge debate. I just wanted to make people's lives a little easier. But Justin's words are final, so, we're all pretty much just gonna have to be content with the current system. THIS MEANS THAT I'M DONE PURSUING THIS, AUSSIE. Guess what? You won. Happy Kwanza, Christmas, Hanukkah, and every other holiday, Aussie.

Cord_Croft
09-12-07, 17:22
It would be nice to upload our own avvies, but meh. I think the system now is alright. Not as though it takes a week to upload.

Anubis_AF
09-12-07, 17:27
I just wanted to make people's lives a little easier. But Justin's words are final, so, we're all pretty much just gonna have to be content with the current system.
And this affects your, and everyone's, life dramatically? Come on.

raiderfun
09-12-07, 17:27
The only inconvenient I find in those rules is that avatars may be changed once per 28 days which is too long unfortunately ! :o

Indiana Croft
09-12-07, 17:31
And this affects your, and everyone's, life dramatically? Come on.

see this is my point. I didn't say COMPLETELY easier. I just meant like .2% easier. Like, just a little? Do I have to put it lamen's terms? I just though it would be a little be more convienient for people. You've got me read all wrong. I never said I didn't mind the system I just thought it would be something a little simpler for us all. I didn't know people felt so strongly about our current system. I didn't think it be such a big change for people. Why don't we all just take a step back and look at the big picture? We are going to keep the current system. End of discussion:)

xcrushterx
09-12-07, 17:33
That's not guaranteed enough, unless you're 100% sure - which we aren't.
If one member doesn't another one will. It's a 100% garuntee that many of the forum members will see the bad avatar and not very likely at all that none of that few hundred people would report it.

danitiwa
09-12-07, 17:34
see this is my point. I didn't say COMPLETELY easier. I just meant like .2% easier. Like, just a little? Do I have to put it lamen's terms? I just though it would be a little be more convienient for people. You've got me read all wrong. I never said I didn't mind the system I just thought it would be something a little simpler for us all. I didn't know people felt so strongly about our current system. I didn't think it be such a big change for people. Why don't we all just take a step back and look at the big picture? We are going to keep the current system. End of discussion:)

IC, cool it. ;) Ok? We're not mocking you or anything.

Agent 47
09-12-07, 17:41
The only inconvenient I find in those rules is that avatars may be changed once per 28 days which is too long unfortunately ! :o

i think it's a rather good rule to be honest,along with sizes

i for one would find it irritating people changing avatars every 5 seconds.since i've been here i've used the same avatar,i use this image and user name at every forum i'm at (standardised if you will)

yes it would be nice if we were trusted enough to change them ourselves,but i understand why we can't, it really doesn't bother me as i have no intention of changing my avatar for however long i'm here (i don't like wasting people's time, as such i chose this avatar....so i'm keeping it) :D

vespertea
09-12-07, 19:38
I honestly don't think the mods would have to play scavenger hunt for inappropriate avatars. If a mod comes across an inappropriate avatar, then temporarily remove it and message or warn the user. Most members on this forum (especially) are responsible enough to report any offensive material, so even if an offensive avatar did slip by the mods, then it'd probably be reported anyway. If it isn't reported, then not many people have seen it, and therefore I don't think it'd be anything too drastic to worry about.

A lot of people keep claiming that not everyone will follow the rules if we do that. Well yeah, a spare few won't follow the avatar rules, just like a spare few don't follow the General Chat rules or double-posting rules. I really don't think it'll be as frequent of a problem as some of us are working it up to be. Like I've said, the chances of someone uploading an avatar that's ban-worthy seems pretty slim. Warning-worthy? Sure, it would probably happen, but at least it'll rid the forums of those wretched "avatar?" threads, plus lighten the load for Justin.

Eddie Guerrero12
09-12-07, 19:42
I got my my Borat avatar last week. After I sent the e-mail I got it in under 30 minutes.

Anubis_AF
09-12-07, 19:44
If one member doesn't another one will. It's a 100% garuntee that many of the forum members will see the bad avatar and not very likely at all that none of that few hundred people would report it.
How come it's not the same with posts, then?

vespertea
09-12-07, 19:48
How come it's not the same with posts, then?

This is news to me. I always see members reporting spam/offensive posts, especially ones that partake to something illegal like downloading Tomb Raider music or ripping something from a DVD. If anything is offensive enough to be considered 18+, I can't imagine it not being reported.

trXD
09-12-07, 19:53
i agree

I doubt mods would have to do much of a search to find inapropiate avatars anyway. They could probobly take it down before many people see it

Anubis_AF
10-12-07, 17:18
This is news to me. I always see members reporting spam/offensive posts, especially ones that partake to something illegal like downloading Tomb Raider music or ripping something from a DVD. If anything is offensive enough to be considered 18+, I can't imagine it not being reported.
True. Some of the obvious things get reported; other are left for us to find. I wouldn't call that 100% efficient.

CuteKittenlol
10-12-07, 17:25
The only inconvenient I find in those rules is that avatars may be changed once per 28 days which is too long unfortunately ! :o

Tbh I don't think it's that bad. It's only an avatar XD

xcrushterx
10-12-07, 17:30
How come it's not the same with posts, then?
Posts are different. Not all T&C violation with posts are obvious. Some are borderline and some are obvious. The same can and cannot be said about avatars. If I saw porn in an avatar I'd report it and I am 100% certain that most people who see it would report it. If I saw a borderline one, I'd still report it, but the numbers would be less, yes, but it would still get reported. All you need is one.

pEhouse
10-12-07, 17:45
Well, like many said, in pretty much none of the forums I am or was in, they had the rule that only the admin or moderators could upload an avatar for you, it was left to the user. And there have never been any problems with inappropriate avatars, and if there were, the mods/admins must have been quick enough to take them down before anybody could notice.
I do believe that correct avatar requests are being overlooked sometimes. It happened to me before, eventhough I followed the rules.

On the other hand, I do agree that the avatar is a big recognition factor and it makes it a lot easier to remember who is who and if the users would have the chance to change them every other day, it would be hard to keep track.

That being said, I wouldn't mind if the rules would be changed, but I can deal with them.

Cochrane
10-12-07, 17:56
I think the rules are just plain silly, because I've never seen a forum with free avatars allowed where the avatars were a problem. But then, I'm happy with my current avatar, which is the only one I've ever had on here, so I'm not bothered about this.

As a suggestion: I don't know if this forum software can handle it, but if it could, it might be a good idea if people could upload their own avatars, but they won't be displayed until they get approved by tlr (or a moderator). Size checking and checking that that you don't change your avatar too often can be done using a PHP script. The reviewer's interface could be a simple list of avatars and user names, and an "Approve" and "Don't approve and ban member for the next three years" next to each.

This solution would require some sort of plug-in, which is probably not even written yet (and I'm not gonna write it, I hate writing PHP). But it would reduce workload for the reviewer(s), decrease the waiting time for new avatars to take effect, and still fullfill the percieved need for individual review of each and every avatar.

Dark Lugia 2
10-12-07, 18:14
I think it;s extremely fast. :D I sent my avvy 10 mins ago and it;ls changed now! :eek:

dox online
10-12-07, 18:17
It is better than a few months! I dont change mine offen anyway so I dont need to worry about it.

tranniversary119
10-12-07, 18:31
I think i might have the wrong email adress. Im sending it to support[at]tombraiderchronicles.com
are is it a different email adress? The rules say to mail it at support [at] tombraiderchronicles.com because i just mailed one out about a half and hour ago and it's not changed. Any help guys?

DREWY
10-12-07, 20:15
You have the right link, you just need patience. tlr has no more hours in his day than you. And he's not on 24/7.
As they say, it won't happen over night- but it will happen! Remember to follow ALL the instructions HERE (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=2238484&postcount=1)
The [at] is used instead of @ to stop bots and such. :wve:

Grenade
10-12-07, 20:18
I kinda miss the old system where there used to be a thread where we ask for our avatars to be resized and then they're uploaded.

Lenochka
10-12-07, 21:48
I personally like the idea of setting a certain post count (5,000?) and also having to have been a rather active member for at least a year. After meeting those requirements you are given the feature of changing your own avatar now that you have been around long enough to know what is acceptable and such.

Betal
10-12-07, 23:10
I personally like the idea of setting a certain post count (5,000?) and also having to have been a rather active member for at least a year. After meeting those requirements you are given the feature of changing your own avatar now that you have been around long enough to know what is acceptable and such.

Agreed.:tmb::D

bloodstormaoa
10-12-07, 23:12
I personally like the idea of setting a certain post count (5,000?) and also having to have been a rather active member for at least a year. After meeting those requirements you are given the feature of changing your own avatar now that you have been around long enough to know what is acceptable and such.

Methinks that would entice spamming :whi:

oocladableeblah
10-12-07, 23:18
I'm fine with the system the way it is.

Lenochka
10-12-07, 23:35
Methinks that would entice spamming :whi:

While also being relatively active on the forum for an entire year?
That person would have to be REALLY dedicated to changing there avatar when they please :vlol:

Agent 47
10-12-07, 23:39
While also being relatively active on the forum for an entire year?
That person would have to be REALLY dedicated to changing there avatar when they please :vlol:

you'd be surprised, forums are a strange thing and people will do the craziest of things to achieve certain goals :D i've seen it with my own two eye's :vlol:

bloodstormaoa
10-12-07, 23:43
While also being relatively active on the forum for an entire year?
That person would have to be REALLY dedicated to changing there avatar when they please :vlol:

Well, if someone liked the forum (and TR) anyway......they'd be here for a year or more! There are members, even quite talkative ones that have been here a year and haven't yet reached 5k.

All I'm saying is that those who would like the feature,have been here a year, yet have nothing really to contribute to the forum could potentially spam their way to the 5k mark in order to have it....

Tomb Raider 5194
11-12-07, 00:13
Well, if someone liked the forum (and TR) anyway......they'd be here for a year or more! There are members, even quite talkative ones that have been here a year and haven't yet reached 5k.
*raises hand* :D

I don't really have a problem with the avatar uploading system, I have kind got used to it. Though I do have to say, I can't wait to change my avatar again! XD

tranniversary119
11-12-07, 18:09
You have the right link, you just need patience. tlr has no more hours in his day than you. And he's not on 24/7.
As they say, it won't happen over night- but it will happen! Remember to follow ALL the instructions HERE (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=2238484&postcount=1)
The [at] is used instead of @ to stop bots and such. :wve:

Thanks it worked :D sorry i was just worried i was sending it somewhere else. thanks guys ;)

t.A.T.u./LCLuvr
11-12-07, 19:09
I think it's a gr8 idea! I'm in many other forums in which they allow you to change and put up your own avatars and there's hardly ever any problems with ppl putting up inappropriate ones, so I don't see this forum being an exception. Afterall, we're all mature enough here, aren't we?