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silver_wolf
15-12-07, 00:02
We know Lara's trying to get into the Underworld in TRU, and we know how she'll do it, but why? Is the Underworld replacing Avalon, or does Lara have to go through it to get to Avalon? Maybe she has to pass through the darkness to reach the light. Which could lead to interesting new developments. Maybe she'll accidentally let the demons of the underworld into Avalon and that may somehow affect Earth. What do you think?
ChrisJ_938
15-12-07, 00:04
and most importantly, what happened to excalibur? y isnt she carrying it around if she knows there will be some baddies in her way?
I think Avalon is the Underworld and the Underworld is Avalon. It's another name for somewhere you go when you pass on. Part of the Monomyth Lara mentioned a few times in legend.
:wve:
King Arthur's Girlfriends , husbands, nephews, daugthers, uncles, grandads, nieces toy sword. :p
In real life.. Something to do with King Arthurs time + the mayan calender!
and most importantly, what happened to excalibur? y isnt she carrying it around if she knows there will be some baddies in her way?
Maybe it gets stolen from her early on in the game? :D And it could be a playable level, like Home Sweet Home from TR2! :cln:
MadCroy101
15-12-07, 00:06
and most importantly, what happened to excalibur? y isnt she carrying it around if she knows there will be some baddies in her way?
maybe excalibur is in the trophey room, i love that room :)
Maybe it gets stolen from her early on in the game? :D And it could be a playable level, like Home Sweet Home from TR2! :cln:
She took it too the museam, So maybe she gets a call saying the museam has been broking into.. and then its like Home Sweer Home; only in a museam. :p
I think Avalon is the Underworld and the Underworld is Avalon. It's another name for somewhere you go when you pass on. Part of the Monomyth Lara mentioned a few times in legend.
:wve:Didn't think of that. But now that you mention, it makes sense.
My mind is literally (well not really.. my post count more like) exploding from all this speculation and hype. So I can't think properly anymore. Bah! :D
And indeed. Did she leave the Excalibur in the museum or did someone else take it?
Or Excalibur has to be used for some puzzle earlier in the game, as the screenshots we've seen have been from the 6th level(?).. Hmm. :p
ChrisJ_938
15-12-07, 00:08
but if she came across a dias in her adventure i dont think she would go all the way back to her mansion to get it. :)
She took it too the museam, So maybe she gets a call saying the museam has been broking into.. and then its like Home Sweer Home; only in a museam. :p
Boo. Lara doesn't give her artifacts and treasures away. :p
Boo. Lara doesn't give her artifacts and treasures away. :p
I thought it was for Alister to rub it in his work mates faces, Lara would have got it back soon as possible obviously. :p
-Maybe.
-Cries!
I thought it was for Alister to rub it in his work mates faces, Lara would have got it back soon as possible obviously. :p
-Maybe.
-Cries!
Lol Lara's more likely to tell Alistair to "**** off!" than do that. :ton:
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 00:11
She took it too the museam, So maybe she gets a call saying the museam has been broking into.. and then its like Home Sweer Home; only in a museam. :p
Very True About The Museaum, That Might Be How This Game Opens, She Goes To The Museaum talks To That Guy.....Finds Out The Sword Is Connected To the Mayan Calender......Then Maybe Something Happens Like Excalibur Gets Stolen Away By Amanda Or Natla's (Natla Is Rumored To Be In The Game) Men....Then She Tries To Find An Alternative To Enter Avalon.....
This Is All Only a Theory...I Put It In Another Thread too...
Another Theory Is That Maybe She Still Has The Ghalali Key And It Also Disassembles The Sword And Lara Is Carrying It Around In Her Pack...:)
Lol Lara's more likely to tell Alistair to "**** off!" than do that. :ton:
Well.. well, Well i'll just ask her myself.. someday. :p
So, why do you think the museam is mentioned in the last cutscene of Legend? - Maybe the museam holds answers to the Underworld/Avalon connection.. Is Avalon even going to be in the game? Who knows. :D
silver_wolf
15-12-07, 00:21
Boo. Lara doesn't give her artifacts and treasures away. :p
"This belongs in a museum!":D
Aurelien52
15-12-07, 00:23
Actually I think that there is several underworlds (one per civilisation ) and that AValon is the underworld of the Britons.:)
Well.. well, Well i'll just ask her myself.. someday. :p
So, why do you think the museam is mentioned in the last cutscene of Legend? - Maybe the museam holds answers to the Underworld/Avalon connection.. Is Avalon even going to be in the game? Who knows. :D
She sent Alistair there to do research, she wasn't going. ;)
"Alistair, go to the British museum immediately. Ring me when you get there. Dress in layers, you'll be there awhile."
"This belongs in a museum!":D
Ummm....what? lol
silver_wolf
15-12-07, 01:01
Go watch Indiana Jones!
Perhaps Lara needs to unlock the mysteries of the underworld before she can enter Avalon, but then she has never said she wanted to go to Avalon anyway, so maybe there is no connection.
I think a certain Professor Eddington tipped Lara of how to go to the monomythic Avalon, which, in the real world's case, is the Underworld of great ancient civilizations. It would make sense if Tiwanaku would have a corresponding underworld, and so on.
Rutland007
19-12-07, 16:37
We know Lara's trying to get into the Underworld in TRU, and we know how she'll do it, but why? Is the Underworld replacing Avalon, or does Lara have to go through it to get to Avalon? Maybe she has to pass through the darkness to reach the light. Which could lead to interesting new developments. Maybe she'll accidentally let the demons of the underworld into Avalon and that may somehow affect Earth. What do you think?
Hmmm.... Lara does say she is taking Excalibur to a museum, doesn't she? Granted I could see her doing that with an artifact, but an artifact that contains lethal power like that sword does? Not sure about that, but apparently she did. I mean that's like asking the "bad guys" to steal it from the museum. Wouldn't she want to hide it from evil doers? Oh well. I do hope she gets to use it again in Underworld. But perhaps not.
Will Avalon be a part of the Underworld? Good question. Also... will Atlantis? Are Natla & Atlantis really a closed book? Or will they make there way back into the series?
tombraider123
19-12-07, 16:38
I think the Underworld is Avalon, and it is definatly not a paradise.
everywhere dais in legend was broken and lara needs a portal to avalon....maybe theres one in this underworld
Sekhraider
19-12-07, 16:51
I think the Underworld is Avalon, and it is definatly not a paradise.
I agree. Avalon is either the mythical crossroads between heaven and hell or it could be half heaven and half hell. The bowels of Avalon could be host to the most wretched and vicious enemies while the surface has order and great powerful beings:) or just a functional civilization
PoisonParadise
19-12-07, 17:04
I think that Lara has make a balance between the Underworld and Avalon (like good versus bad). When the balance is there the portal to Avalon will open.:)
I'm sorry i have a lot of imagination:p
TrKing_Rulz
19-12-07, 17:07
Maybe it gets stolen from her early on in the game? :D And it could be a playable level, like Home Sweet Home from TR2! :cln:
Doubted.;)
Well, doesn't anyone remember Lara wanting to go stop of at a University/Museum of some sort? Maybe she left it there...??
I really wish people would stop coming up with random ideas, which would be fun, but still, think rationally people...:whi:
Hmm... maybe CD have twisted the myths a bit... I searched Avalon up on wikipedia.org and read what it said... the Land of Apples, linked to Athurian Legend:
According to Geoffrey and much subsequent literature, Avalon is the place where King Arthur was taken after fighting Mordred at the Battle of Camlann. Welsh and Breton tradition claimed that Arthur had never really died, but would return to lead his people against their enemies...
Does this hint the Amelia IS still alive? Or has CD twisted the story? Or is there no Avalon? More research:
Underworlds:
Aztec mythology......... Mictlan
Babylonian mythology....Kurnugia
Buddhist mythology.......Naraka (also Niraya)
Celtic mythology...........Annwn, Mag Mell
Chinese mythology .......Diyu (地獄)
Christian mythology ......Hades, Heaven, Hell, Limbo, Paradise, Purgatory
Egyptian mythology ......Aaru, Anubis, Duat, Neter-khertet
Suprising how many people associate Underworlds with hell! I mean look, an Underworld could be Purgatory (where your sins are burned out of you) or Paradise, Limbo (The gap between life and death) or Heaven, Hell, or Hades... in theory, Avalon (A Paradise) could be an Underworld!
The Mayan one interests me the most:
Mayan mythology..... Metnal .(The Underworld)
Mayan mythology..... Xibalba (The Ruler)
This interests me becuase i've overheard people saying about how Early Legend had Maya/Mesopotamia, and it is rumoured to now be in Underworld.
What do you think?
Sekhraider
19-12-07, 17:10
Doubted.;)
Well, doesn't anyone remember Lara wanting to go stop of at a University/Museum of some sort? Maybe she left it there...??
I really wish people would stop coming up with random ideas, which would be fun, but still, think rationally people...:whi:
I remember her saying she needed to pay a professor or university a visit at the end of TRL but in other TR games I dont know. I wanna know who she was going to visit.:)
PoetOfTheLife
19-12-07, 17:12
Just wait....
Jack Croft
19-12-07, 17:31
She is oging to give excalibur to that professor in london IMO
Only one connection needed, lara is in them both, looking for the same answers to get to avalon. :ohn:
Ward Dragon
19-12-07, 17:49
I think that Lara will come to the conclusion that all of the underworlds are connected, so she will try to find her way into any of them in order to get to Avalon where her mother is.
As for Excalibur, it's way too powerful for us to have it all throughout the game. I'm sure Crystal came up with some reason for why Lara can't take it with her (I just hope it's not too contrived). Perhaps its energy was spent at the end of Legend so it is now just a hunk of metal?
Suprising how many people associate Underworlds with hell! I mean look, an Underworld could be Purgatory (where your sins are burned out of you) or Paradise, Limbo (The gap between life and death) or Heaven, Hell, or Hades... in theory, Avalon (A Paradise) could be an Underworld!
In the context of a game, hell is so much more interesting to explore than heaven or purgatory. Hell makes more sense for having all sorts of fiendish traps and enemies to deal with :mis:
This interests me becuase i've overheard people saying about how Early Legend had Maya/Mesopotamia, and it is rumoured to now be in Underworld.
It's more than rumored. All of the screenshots we have seen so far show Lara in Mayan ruins :D
My guess is that the Underworld is a place Lara has to pass through before she can go to Avalon. Underworld would be some kind of scary, trial place, where Lara will doubt whether she can ever finish her quest. That needn't be hell (purgatory works even better, actually), but it won't be paradise. I believe this because it would fit well within the traditional context of a trilogy, where the second part is always the dark and difficult one. In a broader context, this would mean Lara has to struggle through the underworld, so that she can be cleansed and finally, in a purified form, face Avalon and whatever she'll find in there.
This may sound stupid, but it is a typical story telling element, dating back to Hercules, who had to endure endless torture and tests before being admitted into the Olymp. Look at recent examples:
Luke Skywalker had to fight Darth Vader before becoming a Jedi.
Frodo had to endure carrying the ring while Sauron was watching.
Harry Potter had to - warning book seven spoiler - be killed by Voldemort before he could defeat him.
Neo had to, well I don't know what, didn't watch Matrix Revolution more than once, but it was something similar. I guess.
Jason Bourne had to learn about his past and that he was in it voluntarily.
Mara Jade had to kill her target in the form of her future husband's evil clone.
I'm betting there's some future for April Ryan that depends on her being purified by being killed.
...
As in the other thread, I'm placing much importance in the assumption that Underworld is the middle part of a trilogy, with the first part being Legend, and that CD follows the traditional three-act-model dating back to roman drama. If any of these assumptions is wrong, then my conclusion will likely not hold.
However, the trilogy angle has been repeated rather often, and a trilogy is a preferred way of doing things - precisely because it is so well defined. And by choosing the first legend that comes to mind when thinking "Great Britain" (i.e. Excalibur), going with traditional comic-relief sidekicks, featuring the former-friend-turned-evil villain or a quest about the fate of her mother, CD has proven that they are prone to use predefined templates when the situation calls for it.
Tthe Spirit
19-12-07, 17:52
The pics are just very early.
We must understand and learn from previous trials.
This isnt final...
Who knows, maybe the sword will be with her by then (oh, i so hope not. I hope it gets stolen and we never hear of it again. Even if they even didnt mention it at all, i wouldnt mind).
Avalon will be the catacomb.
I have been making a reserach.
It says that mayans had placed many of their creations in the underworld to allow the spirits continue ruling the underworld.
It even says that they had portals (mirror like) which allowed them to go to various places of the world and even looked at the future of human kind and this is why they were able to make that astounding calender.
Ward Dragon
19-12-07, 17:55
Neo had to, well I don't know what, didn't watch Matrix Revolution more than once, but it was something similar. I guess.
:vlol: I don't blame you. That movie wasn't worth watching even once (I was so disappointed after the first Matrix movie being so good)
Anyhow, you're probably right in your analysis of how Underworld will fit the standard "second part of the trilogy" mold.
I actually think Underworld is a stupid name. I'd prefer "Amanda strikes back". :D
As for Matrix: The first one was good. The others, well, not so much. But I am certain that there was something where Neo was suddenly able to kill robots outside the matrix with xtreem force powers, then he faced that agent that was the father elve in LoTR - it follows the standard pattern, I just forgot all the details.
silver_wolf
19-12-07, 17:59
but that implies Amanda will somehow "strike back" which I don't think will really happen...
Maybe not Amanda, but something will strike back. Maybe it's the Underworld that "strikes back". It does not have to be a literal strike in any way, it's just that I expect Lara will suddenly face difficulties that she couldn't even begin to imagine after her success in Legend.
For all of you wondering if Lara is using Excalibur in TRU - I would be willing to bet that she will have to use the Ghalali key at the beginning of the game ( for opening the "door" to Avalon or something) and if that were to happen the sword would be broken/separated into pieces again. That way she wouldn't be able to use it.
EDIT : Typo
Sekhraider
19-12-07, 18:11
My guess is that the Underworld is a place Lara has to pass through before she can go to Avalon. Underworld would be some kind of scary, trial place, where Lara will doubt whether she can ever finish her quest. That needn't be hell (purgatory works even better, actually), but it won't be paradise. I believe this because it would fit well within the traditional context of a trilogy, where the second part is always the dark and difficult one. In a broader context, this would mean Lara has to struggle through the underworld, so that she can be cleansed and finally, in a purified form, face Avalon and whatever she'll find in there.
This may sound stupid, but it is a typical story telling element, dating back to Hercules, who had to endure endless torture and tests before being admitted into the Olymp. Look at recent examples:
Luke Skywalker had to fight Darth Vader before becoming a Jedi.
Frodo had to endure carrying the ring while Sauron was watching.
Harry Potter had to - warning book seven spoiler - be killed by Voldemort before he could defeat him.
Neo had to, well I don't know what, didn't watch Matrix Revolution more than once, but it was something similar. I guess.
Jason Bourne had to learn about his past and that he was in it voluntarily.
Mara Jade had to kill her target in the form of her future husband's evil clone.
I'm betting there's some future for April Ryan that depends on her being purified by being killed.
...
As in the other thread, I'm placing much importance in the assumption that Underworld is the middle part of a trilogy, with the first part being Legend, and that CD follows the traditional three-act-model dating back to roman drama. If any of these assumptions is wrong, then my conclusion will likely not hold.
However, the trilogy angle has been repeated rather often, and a trilogy is a preferred way of doing things - precisely because it is so well defined. And by choosing the first legend that comes to mind when thinking "Great Britain" (i.e. Excalibur), going with traditional comic-relief sidekicks, featuring the former-friend-turned-evil villain or a quest about the fate of her mother, CD has proven that they are prone to use predefined templates when the situation calls for it.
I understand what youre saying about the whole trilogy scenario. The first book/film is always about the story and characterization; painting a picture to the audience/reader about what this character is about and why they do the things they do. The second is always that continuation/cliff-hanger title where the character goes through a lot and either comes out on top or fails and must go through a journey to understand why certain events too place. Most likely someone/something close to the character dies or disappears and the character tries to understand. The third of course is the end and brings the events that happened in the first title and second title back together; kind of like a resolution.
1st=story, plot, characterization (good vs evil)
2nd= continued story from 1st title or seperate mission/journey for hero
2rd=resolution/square away events from 1st & 2nd titles; sometimes main character finds out the meaning to why they exist or sometimes they make a sacrifice then understand their true calling
(this is all in general...lol):)
So are we saying that TRA, TRL, and TRU are going to be that trilogy scenario? Hmm...interesting
So are we saying that TRA, TRL, and TRU are going to be that trilogy scenario? Hmm...interesting
I don't think so. Being that TRA is placed before Legend, it cannot fulfill the role of the middle part. It's certainly no last part, as Legend's questions don't get answered, and it also does not work as a first part either, because that would make Legend either middle or final, while it's narrative structure, with all the exposition and it's particular ending, mandates that it's clearly a first part. So I think TRU++ (which I define to be the TR game after TRU) is the last part of the trilogy, in my opinion. But this is all just a guess, of course.
TrKing_Rulz
19-12-07, 18:15
For all of you wondering if Lara is using Excalibur in TRU - I would be willing to bet that she will have to use the Ghalali key at the beginning of the game ( for opening the "door" to Avalon or something) and if that were to happen the sword would be broken/separated into pieces again. That way she would be able to use it.
Once again someone else who has forgotten the most likely possibility:
(Even hinted at the end of Legend).
Lara donates Excalibur to the British Museum or some other museum.
And the other possibility that:
Lara is going to the Mayan underworld, possibly not Avalon. As I did say, and Underworld can be anything, in this case a paradise aswell, I mean, even heaven is listed as an Underworld. I think I'd bet on the Underworld/Purgatory/Paradise themes.
Once again someone else who has forgotten the most likely possibility:
(Even hinted at the end of Legend).
Lara donates Excalibur to the British Museum or some other museum.
That may happen at the end of the trilogy (although I wouldn't be surprised if Lara kept the sword somewhere in her mansion instead), but Lara spent way too much time finding the damn knife to give it up that easily again. I rather guess that having Excalibur is the first in a series of steps leading to Avalon, and it will be required to either find or open the next stage.
The British Museum comment at the end is, in my opinion, overrated. I believe that it means Lara is looking for outside help trying to decipher the hidden meanings of the sword, and the scientists she needs and knows happen to be employed by the British Museum (fun fact: You can find it at http://the.british.museum, making it one of the very few users of the .museum top-level domain).
Once again someone else who has forgotten the most likely possibility:
(Even hinted at the end of Legend).
Lara donates Excalibur to the British Museum or some other museum.
It's hinted at? Where? And a museum donation would be less likely thing in the world imo. Lara is know to keep things for herself (at least at one point in her "past" life) and Excalibur is something too dangerous for "uneducated" people to keep or even know about.
And the other possibility that:
Lara is going to the Mayan underworld, possibly not Avalon. As I did say, and Underworld can be anything, in this case a paradise aswell, I mean, even heaven is listed as an Underworld. I think I'd bet on the Underworld/Purgatory/Paradise themes.
I don't personally believe Lara is going to Avalon at the start of the game. It was just a possible reason for Lara to not be able to use the sword.
EDIT:Previously I meant "That way she wouldn't be able to use it." of course, and not "That way she would be able to use it." which is what I actually typed.
This may sound stupid, but it is a typical story telling element, dating back to Hercules, who had to endure endless torture and tests before being admitted into the Olymp. Look at recent examples:
Luke Skywalker had to fight Darth Vader before becoming a Jedi.
Frodo had to endure carrying the ring while Sauron was watching.
Harry Potter had to - warning book seven spoiler - be killed by Voldemort before he could defeat him.
Neo had to, well I don't know what, didn't watch Matrix Revolution more than once, but it was something similar. I guess.
Jason Bourne had to learn about his past and that he was in it voluntarily.
Mara Jade had to kill her target in the form of her future husband's evil clone.
I'm betting there's some future for April Ryan that depends on her being purified by being killed.
...
I would add:
1) Daniel Garner was stuck in purgatory before he could enter the Heaven
2) Odysseus needed to go down in Hades (Greek underworld) to ask how can he get back home
1st=story, plot, characterization (good vs evil)
2nd= continued story from 1st title or seperate mission/journey for hero
2rd=resolution/square away events from 1st & 2nd titles; sometimes main character finds out the meaning to why they exist or sometimes they make a sacrifice then understand their true calling
I agree and also add that mostly 2 things are very important:
1) the truth. Heroes always fight for that and want to know it
2) revenge. They really need it to make a balance between eveil and good
So when Lara reaches Avalon she will find out all the truth and I hope she can save her mother and punish all evil. Avalon needs to be as a trilogy of TR maybe even more than trilogy
2) revenge. They really need it to make a balance between eveil and good
Fun fact: Star Wars Episode VI was to be called "Revenge of the Jedi". Posters were already printed and a few trailers had already run with that title when George Lucas changed his mind and decided to name it "Return of the Jedi", because a true Jedi does not seek revenge. The revenge title was used twenty years later for Episode III, "Revenge of the Sith", where it was far more appropriate.
Why am I telling this? Because I think it's not about revenge, really, but about balance, traditionally. Harry Potter does not take revenge when he - book seven spoiler - defeats Lord Voldemort. On an unrelated note, how much longer until i can drop this spoiler warning?. Neither were the other classical heroes out for revenge. Some of them were at the beginning, but after the traditional purification, they realized that revenge is not the goal. Balance is. So when they go and finally defeat their opponent, they do not do so because they want revenge, but because they want an evil to be removed from the world, and some of them are willing to die for that goal (Nathaniel from the Bartimaeus Trilogy is a good example for that).
revenge and balance is the same thing. If good people want revenge then their revenge is awlays right and fair they do it for balance as I said before. As Kurtis said in AOD that justice and revenge can be the same thing
Sekhraider
19-12-07, 18:50
I would add:
1) Daniel Garner was stuck in purgatory before he could enter the Heaven
2) Odysseus needed to go down in Hades (Greek underworld) to ask how can he get back home
I agree and also add that mostly 2 things are very important:
1) the truth. Heroes always fight for that and want to know it
2) revenge. They really need it to make a balance between eveil and good
So when Lara reaches Avalon she will find out all the truth and I hope she can save her mother and punish all evil. Avalon needs to be as a trilogy of TR maybe even more than trilogy
I remember in the Ancient Sumer/Babylonian texts that the goddess Inana or Ishtar journeyed through the various levels of the Underworld searching for something (which I cant remember), and she went through death, torture, and resurrection. So maybe Lara will go through this too? Pass through the portal (dying), journeying through the underworld and witnessing horrific things and questioning her judgement/intentions/temptation, then leaving the underworld (resurrection). This could be interesting. This makes me want to read up on the Dante texts again.:)
TR makes us read more :D It's great idea I think :) But developers don't always act logically they can do it very weird.
But back to your idea so if Lara dies to enter there so what's next? If she's dead she can't die again in underworld or how?
But it was otherwise for Odysseus and Hercules they entered the Underworld but they didn't die b4
Sekhraider
19-12-07, 19:07
TR makes us read more :D It's great idea I think :) But developers don't always act logically they can do it very weird.
But back to your idea so if Lara dies to enter there so what's next? If she's dead she can't die again in underworld or how?
But it was otherwise for Odysseus and Hercules they entered the Underworld but they didn't die b4
Hmm...I dont know. I have to read that Babylonian text again. Well I guess death may be metaphorical? Lara could die b/c her body and soul pass into the afterlife/underworld and she is reborn when she escapes the underworld? Sheesh. lol
I think Avalon is the Underworld and the Underworld is Avalon. It's another name for somewhere you go when you pass on. Part of the Monomyth Lara mentioned a few times in legend.
:wve:
But isn't Avalon an island in England ?
Or you mean , this temple will guide her thought Avalon ?
Atrum Angelus
20-12-07, 14:54
I've no idea what to think.
Somehow I have a feeling there ain't no connection.
but it's pretty weird, since Legend II is suppose to be a continuation and Lara's off to find her mother.
But since we started to talk about Underworld and we saw the article and all, there was no mention of Avalon whatsoever.
Rutland007
20-12-07, 15:41
I've no idea what to think.
Somehow I have a feeling there ain't no connection.
but it's pretty weird, since Legend II is suppose to be a continuation and Lara's off to find her mother.
But since we started to talk about Underworld and we saw the article and all, there was no mention of Avalon whatsoever.
Any truly gifted writer knows that you don't give away the biggest surprises before the reader even reads the story. True to that form, if Avalon is included in this upcoming game, there is no way in hell the game creators would give that up so soon. If there was no internet spoiling, and not a big group of gamers sharing secrets with each other, then each individual gamer would step by step be revealed the "big picture" with Lara Croft as Underworld unfolds. That's what game creators would prefer anyway.
That said, if the game creators truly have a great story planned for Underworld (and we can surely suspect that they do), then they will not ignore Lara's missing mother, and Avalon, after stating in Legend, that finding her mother has in fact been Lara's primary reason to become a TombRaider in the first place. (Or did I miss something?)
I don't know if Avalon is in the Underworld, but if it isn't, than UnderWorld is at least a big step in Avalon's direction. However, I would suspect that Avalon would be there. I guess we'll soon see.
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