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anniversarytr11
15-12-07, 08:26
in all the pics of tomb raider underworld in magazine article and a website lara does not have a headset, but zip and alister voice actors are confirmed so how can they fit in?
Little-Lara
15-12-07, 08:28
A headset isn't the only way to communicate. Maybe there is an optional feature, or a cell phone, or another device that we can control, not Z and A. :rolleyes:
GodOfLight
15-12-07, 08:32
i saw this too... it made me so happy!!
:jmp::jmp::jmp:
anniversarytr11
15-12-07, 08:36
i just hope its not a small feature they are puting back in later in development it was anoying just to be spoon fed by shiny objects then from the headset as well! lol
Little-Lara
15-12-07, 08:40
i just hope its not a small feature they are puting back in later in development it was anoying just to be spoon fed by shiny objects then from the headset as well! lol
:vlol: Actually, you may be right, considering there isn't anything to animate when it comes to the headset. Just adding the sound and the subtitle layers is very little work................ ohh god, I just scared myself now. I don't want the headset back, dammit. :( But i would like some sort of an option. :rolleyes:
UNDERTAKER
15-12-07, 09:26
Personally, I don't mind Zip and Alister being in the game. Just as long as they don't help you with puzzles or talk during the levels. They should only appear in cutscenes.
Dont get your hopes up. As far as I remember in some legend promotional pics there also arent headsets :( Which doesnt nesseserily mean we are safe :pi:
I want a headset... WAAAAH!!!
I'm pretty sure Alister and Zip will be in Underworld, just not as active as they were in Legend. Heck, there's no headset in sight. So I'm betting we'll most likely only see or hear from them in cutscenes in between levels, which is a good thing.
I'm pretty sure Alister and Zip will be in Underworld, just not as active as they were in Legend. Heck, there's no headset in sight. So I'm betting we'll most likely only see or hear from them in cutscenes in between levels, which is a good thing.
This means they will slowly be wiped out of teh franchise as they should :tmb:
:D
anniversarytr11
15-12-07, 10:08
theyve been confirmed but doesnt say how they will fit in, judging on the pics CD are being wise and listening to the fans so probs zip and alister wont be like in legend figers crossed
Even if it was a headset, I doubt the emissions from the core of the Underworld would reach Zip and Alister.:D
So maybe they decide to drop it completely.
maximum_123
15-12-07, 11:01
Lara lines up jump. "Ok, I have it now! And I left my headset at home, boo-yah!". Runs to make jump. *cell-phone rings* Stops at edge, rubble falls down. Lara looks at caller-ID...
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z197/maximum123_2007/guesswho.jpg
*Look how vein Lara is, she's on her own phone background!!*
..."What a surprise." *answers* "Lara! Don't jump! Noooo! *crys*"
"Alister, it's fine" Lara says, "I've been doing this half my life!"
"Actually," Alister replies, "It's Zip!"
"Omg! Now god knows what CD have done!"
Ok, so I wouldn't mind Z&A As long as they don't give away things or tell you what to do... but I did like some of Zip's 'funny' jokes.
LegendLuvr24
15-12-07, 11:10
See that thing on her wrist? I have a feeling that's a watch with mobile phone capabilities.
Before you accuse the game of being unrealistic: Those types of watches DO exist, but are very expensive. Seeing as miss Croft is rather wealthy, she easily could afford one of those watches, and chances are...that'll replace the headset.
So maybe they decide to drop it completely.
HALLELUYAH!!!!! :D
Headset or no, hardly matters, Lara's back! & she's smoking!! :jmp: :yah: :ohn:
Sara Croft
15-12-07, 11:18
It could be the PDA or a cell phone that works like the journal in TR:A. THAT, I wouldn't mind. :D
coolaideonfire
15-12-07, 11:37
I don't mind them being in the game as long as their information doesn't assist with any puzzles, etc. I want to work things out for myself.
jeremyANDROGYNY
15-12-07, 12:54
See that thing on her wrist? I have a feeling that's a watch with mobile phone capabilities.
Before you accuse the game of being unrealistic: Those types of watches DO exist, but are very expensive. Seeing as miss Croft is rather wealthy, she easily could afford one of those watches, and chances are...that'll replace the headset.
You beat me to it LegendLuvr. Personally though, I don't really like that idea.
The headset was evil.
I'm glad Crystal have apparantly left it out for this and hopefully forever.
Seriously, there were many critiques on teh headsets - EVERYWHERE - I think crystal learned their lesson
Personally, I don't mind Zip and Alister being in the game. Just as long as they don't help you with puzzles or talk during the levels. They should only appear in cutscenes.
Ditto.
Personally, I don't mind Zip and Alister being in the game. Just as long as they don't help you with puzzles or talk during the levels. They should only appear in cutscenes.
I think that is going to happen in this new game... :)
A headset isn't the only way to communicate. Maybe there is an optional feature, or a cell phone, or another device that we can control, not Z and A. :rolleyes:
Yup telepathy or hallucinations :D
I want a headset... WAAAAH!!!
That's like swearing...
Hmm...the headset...
Personally, I don't like it. But if Zip and Allister are in the game, I think the best thing to do would be like they did in TRA, which was the journal in Lara's inventory.
MillenniumMan12
15-12-07, 14:57
I actually would really like the headset in TRU. It would seem pretty weird that in Legend she would have it and then in the next game Zip and Alister just disappear. Just those small consistency errors bug me :ton: (as well as the whole ponytail/braid argument).
However I agree Zip and Alister got reaaaallly annoying in TRL, so if they have the headset, I would want them to interrupt less, preferably in mostly cutscenes. No hints from them. They did sometimes help explain the story during gameplay, but that is all I want them to do. Maybe when Lara gets into the Underworld, the headset will no longer work....
silver_wolf
15-12-07, 15:03
Maybe that band on Lara's wrist is some super-fly spy communicator that she/we can use to talk to them.
I actually would really like the headset in TRU. It would seem pretty weird that in Legend she would have it and then in the next game Zip and Alister just disappear. Just those small consistency errors bug me :ton: (as well as the whole ponytail/braid argument).
However I agree Zip and Alister got reaaaallly annoying in TRL, so if they have the headset, I would want them to interrupt less, preferably in mostly cutscenes. No hints from them. They did sometimes help explain the story during gameplay, but that is all I want them to do. Maybe when Lara gets into the Underworld, the headset will no longer work....
The problem with the headset, at least to me, is not only in what they say - it's also about the fact that they're TALKING - all of them, including Lara. We're suposed to be exploring secret ancient sites, I would expect a creepy, lonely and silent atmosphere. I don't want them to explain the story, cutscenes exist for that purpose, but there shouldn't be cutscenes with Lara talking to them in the middle of a level, that happened in Chronicles and it was a bit annoying.
Besides, I could also refer the fact that true Lara Croft would most definately NOT need someone else's help to decipher the things she comes across... But oh well. :rolleyes:
I prefer lost and lonely ALWAYS, but they have to put Zip and Alister in TR8. The story won't work without them and one-half of the fans will seriously miss them.
I don't know how they'll satisfy both sides but they need to get creative. Dialling Zip and Alister on the mobile with questions is not the answer. imo.
My (totally unrealistic) preference would be 2 versions - "Lara's tale" and "Lara with friends" version to be chosen at the start. That'd mean tweaking cutscenes to suit the differences which I know is NOT going to happen.
:)
I think Z and A will lose connection some times when lara get's into the underworld :jmp:
Hmm, maybe Lara gets an iPhone, and CD gets some marketing dough out of it?
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 17:20
I Actually Loved Zip And Allister...
They Helped The Story Move Along...
I Hope They Return...
ajrich17901
15-12-07, 17:22
No headset??
THERE IS A GOD!!!!:gki::eek::yah:
communicate. Maybe there is an optional feature, or a cell phone
A cell phone? I really doubt O2 went to the Underworld to put up Phone masts. :p
illuminati30
15-12-07, 17:54
in all the pics of tomb raider underworld in magazine article and a website lara does not have a headset,
Great isn't it!
but zip and alister voice actors are confirmed so how can they fit in?
Alister turns against Lara. He is actually on the side of Amanda, and they have a secret love affair going on. Zip dies trying to save Lara, and then Lara kills Alister. All along he has been corrupt! Lara is truly alone, bitter and angry forever :)
I made that up, but i like it! :D
EDIT! Or Alister takes Zip hostage, threating Lara saying she must hand something over, or Zip gets it. Of course she does not, so zip gets it, and then Lara kills Alister!
Maybe she is going to use a Cell-phone with camera....
Wouldn't be cool that if were stuck in the game, we can call Zip or Allister to help us out??
silver_wolf
15-12-07, 18:36
sure?
Its good, but I think there is some sort of item that connects her with them.
illuminati30
15-12-07, 18:37
Maybe she is going to use a Cell-phone with camera....
Wouldn't be cool that if were stuck in the game, we can call Zip or Allister to help us out??
LOL! Stupid Lara gets stuck, so she phones a friend like in who wants to be a millionaire!
Tomb Raider Master
15-12-07, 19:01
I'd love Zip and Alister back in the game, as long as they don't talk on every other corner like in Legend.
I personally would like the game more if she was a loner like in Angel of Darkness and didn’t need allies. That’s just my preference.
I personally would like the game more if she was a loner like in Angel of Darkness and didn’t need allies. That’s just my preference.
Lol What was Kurtis, Bouchard, Carvier, Von Croy, Pierre, Janice, the fat reporter and other people I can't remember? Adversaries? Lol
cristina8992
15-12-07, 19:12
Wouldn't be cool that if were stuck in the game, we can call Zip or Allister to help us out??
That's a pretty good idea. Similar to the way we could access her diary in Anniversary. Though I'm not sure how that would work if she visited the Underworld.:p
ajrich17901
15-12-07, 19:12
What was she? She was kickass lol:D
Lol What was Kurtis, Bouchard, Carvier, Von Croy, Pierre, Janice, the fat reporter and other people I can't remember? Adversaries? Lol
Lol What was Kurtis, Bouchard, Carvier, Von Croy, Pierre, Janice, the fat reporter and other people I can’t remember? Adversaries? Lol
They weren’t always their with her on her journey; that’s what I mean.
maximum_123
15-12-07, 19:52
A cell phone? I really doubt O2 went to the Underworld to put up Phone masts. :p
VodaFone did...
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=2318758&postcount=13
The Armband allows Lara to communicate with Zip & Alistair !
Or
The Level we saw was an end level and maybe Lara Lost it During a fight :)
Maybe the ear piece is so small that it fits in her ear and you just can't see it. Gotta admit, it would save tons on polygonal count.
Legend 4ever
15-12-07, 20:00
It doesn't matter to me much. It is important to get the new game.
id like the option to have it on or off and when you have it set to on you should be able to pick if you just want them to help develop the story or/and you want them to give you hints as to what to do
tlr online
15-12-07, 21:01
Welcome Scott. :wve:
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Lara has headset :yik::)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9683/hsaq7.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsaq7.jpg)
Lara has headset :yik::)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9683/hsaq7.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsaq7.jpg)
You have good eyes... I still can't see it....
If Lara has an headset, I hope rain affects it's efficiency... I don't want to hear the two monkeys again...
Lara has headset :yik::)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9683/hsaq7.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsaq7.jpg)
That's her ear, guy. >_<
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 21:51
You have good eyes... I still can't see it....
If Lara has an headset, I hope rain affects it's efficiency... I don't want to hear the two monkeys again...
There was nothing wrong with zip and allister...
I Loved Them!
That's her ear, guy. >_<
And the headset! :D
Come on.. just see harder :)
cristina8992
15-12-07, 21:52
Lara has headset :yik::)
There's nothing there, just her ear and the backpack strap.:confused:
There was nothing wrong with zip and allister...
I Loved Them!
Well at first I liked them, but I replayed the game just yesterday, and well, you notice they are always there saying things, and sometimes you feel like slamming their heads on a wall of brick or something like that. I just understood why Lara was always saying: I need concentration...
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 21:58
Well at first I liked them, but I replayed the game just yesterday, and well, you notice they are always there saying things, and sometimes you feel like slamming their heads on a wall of brick or something like that. I just understood why Lara was always saying: I need concentration...
LOL I thought they helped the story move along...
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9683/hsaq7.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsaq7.jpg)
That isn't a headset, its her ear and part of her backpack behind it.
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 21:59
That's her ear, guy. >_<
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=114014
Go There Look Closly At Here Ear And You Can See Some Black Thing...
It Looks As Though The Headsets Back!!
YAY!!!!:jmp:
cristina8992
15-12-07, 21:59
Well at first I liked them, but I replayed the game just yesterday, and well, you notice they are always there saying things, and sometimes you feel like slamming their heads on a wall of brick or something like that. I just understood why Lara was always saying: I need concentration...
And sometimes they give you hints which you don't really need (or want). If I want a tip, I look in a walkthrough, I don't need them to shove it up my ear.:p
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 22:00
And sometimes they give you hints which you don't really need (or want). If I want a tip, I look in a walkthrough, I don't need them to shove it up my ear.:p
Well Maybe They Will Change That...
It will be hard to think of it as a continuation of legend without them...
LOL I thought they helped the story move along...
To be honest, I would really like to take the headset and throw it into a river, or slam it until it breaks...
definitely headset!! :cool:
Maybe this is better:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8465/hsszx8.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsszx8.jpg)
Well Maybe They Will Change That...
It will be hard to think of it as a continuation of legend without them...
No they can stay, but they just need to shut it, when Lara is concentrating, I don't mind hearing them in a cut-scene or something like that....
cristina8992
15-12-07, 22:02
It will be hard to think of it as a continuation of legend without them...
There's always a possibility that Lara loses the headset during the first level.:D
definitely headset!! :cool:
Maybe this is better:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8465/hsszx8.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsszx8.jpg)
It's her bag.
EDIT: Oh... It might be a headset indeed.
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 22:03
definitely headset!! :cool:
Maybe this is better:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8465/hsszx8.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsszx8.jpg)
YAY HeadSet!:D:jmp::D
cristina8992
15-12-07, 22:04
definitely headset!! :cool:
Maybe this is better:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8465/hsszx8.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsszx8.jpg)
Woah, maybe you're right, there's a small thing that looks like a mic... :hea:
Woah, maybe you're right, there's a small thing that looks like a mic... :hea:
I'm still hoping a thunderstorm will **** the mic.
definitely headset!! :cool:
Maybe this is better:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8465/hsszx8.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsszx8.jpg)
It's NOT a headset. >_< There's no headset on her in the in-game shots or the render. NO headset!
I'm still hoping a thunderstorm will **** the mic.
LOL! :vlol::vlol::vlol::vlol:
James_Rutland
15-12-07, 22:09
I can see it. Oh well, i trust CD will add an on/off option, they are taking alot from the fans, either that or i just turn down *Voice Audio* on game options. :)
cristina8992
15-12-07, 22:14
I'm still hoping a thunderstorm will **** the mic.
It's NOT a headset. >_< There's no headset on her in the in-game shots or the render. NO headset!
gtkilla is probably right, the pic isn't clear and there's no headset in the in-game shots.
gtkilla is probably right, the pic isn't clear and there's no headset in the in-game shots.
True. Maybe it was an early concept art/render.
illuminati30
15-12-07, 22:16
Basically i think there is not, but there is a little uncertainty in me now. Anyone good at photo editing?
Up the colour and brightness in this http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=114014 and we will know for sure!
Actually, not a good idea, it is just a render, not even in game, you need to look for it in game.
Basically i think there is not, but there is a little uncertainty in me now. Anyone good at photo editing?
Up the colour and brightness in this http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=114014 and we will know for sure!
Actually, not a good idea, it is just a render, not even in game, you need to look for it in game.
:pi:
i really do hope Underworld lara says something like this in the 1st cutscene/FMV "zip, alistair, i thank u for your time here, but your services are no longer needed. the van has all of your belognings packed. you can leave now."
then she snaps the headset in two.
:)
i really do hope Underworld lara says something like this in the 1st cutscene/FMV "zip, alistair, i thank u for your time here, but your services are no longer needed. the van has all of your belognings packed. you can leave now."
then she snaps the headset in two.
:)
I think CD should employ you ;)
illuminati30
15-12-07, 22:26
i really do hope Underworld lara says something like this in the 1st cutscene/FMV "zip, alistair, i thank u for your time here, but your services are no longer needed. the van has all of your belognings packed. you can leave now."
then she snaps the headset in two.
:)
:D
Then they bicker and fight over who is better, and beat each other to death! :D
Lara's #1 Pal
15-12-07, 22:39
I wanna headset, WAAAA!!!!.
I like listening to Zip and Alister and their witty remarks. However, for those who dont want them talking to them, there should be an opiton in the same area as the audio commentary option. Personally, I like the Audio opition in anniversary, i think its fun to listen to how the game was made. Zip and Alister should stay, it is a continuation of legend, so lara should look like how we left off. We cant have the braid because it wasnt in legend. I want to keep lara's gear and hair the same as legend otherwise it wouldnt make scence. Thats my view of it anyway.
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 22:42
I wanna headset, WAAAA!!!!.
I like listening to Zip and Alister and their witty remarks. However, for those who dont want them talking to them, there should be an opiton in the same area as the audio commentary option. Personally, I like the Audio opition in anniversary, i think its fun to listen to how the game was made. Zip and Alister should stay, it is a continuation of legend, so lara should look like how we left off. We cant have the braid because it wasnt in legend. I want to keep lara's gear and hair the same as legend otherwise it wouldnt make scence. Thats my view of it anyway.
I Sooooooo Agree!:D
I wanna headset, WAAAA!!!!.
I like listening to Zip and Alister and their witty remarks. However, for those who dont want them talking to them, there should be an opiton in the same area as the audio commentary option. Personally, I like the Audio opition in anniversary, i think its fun to listen to how the game was made. Zip and Alister should stay, it is a continuation of legend, so lara should look like how we left off. We cant have the braid because it wasnt in legend. I want to keep lara's gear and hair the same as legend otherwise it wouldnt make scence. Thats my view of it anyway.
You're right. It would be equal, then. But well there's a little problem, maybe the things that Zip and Allister say are important to the storyline, so there might be a little problem ...
Aurelien52
15-12-07, 22:45
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8465/hsszx8.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsszx8.jpg)
I was sure that i'll be here :mad:
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 22:45
You're right. It would be equal, then. But well there's a little problem, maybe the things that Zip and Allister say are important to the storyline, so there might be a little problem ...
Well Maybe they Can Make Sure Zip And Allister don't throw out hint of any sort....
I think CD should employ you ;)
thank u :)
i tried to make it as Croftish as possible, she isnt one to kick them out the door after she employed them.
illuminati30
15-12-07, 22:49
We cant have the braid because it wasnt in legend.
A lady can change her hair in an instant! LOL
I think you are in the minority, most people want silence when playing the game, and to work things out using their own head. Sorry!
Well Maybe they Can Make Sure Zip And Allister don't throw out hint of any sort....
So they should shut it? :p
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 22:51
So they should shut it? :p
No, Just Dont Give Hints...
I Loved hearing Them Bicker at eachother...
They are needed for the storyline...
No, Just Dont Give Hints...
I Loved hearing Them Bicker at eachother...
They are needed for the storyline...
Ok :)
illuminati30
15-12-07, 22:52
They are needed for the storyline...
That's funny, we had 6 games with good story line, and Anniversary without them, didn't we? :p
That's funny, we had 6 games with good story line, and Anniversary without them, didn't we? :p
I think he/she meant that they are needed for TR:L storyline... lol!
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 22:55
That's funny, we had 6 games with good story line, and Anniversary without them, didn't we? :p
Well this is a continuation of Legend...
Like I have said before it will be hard to picture it that way without them...
Whatever I guess people are just gonna disagree...
Carbonek_0051
15-12-07, 22:55
I think he/she meant that they are needed for TR:L storyline... lol!
Thank You!
And I'm A He.....lol:D
Ugh. I can't see the headset in those pics no matter how hard I try. And my laptop screen is freaking ultra bright so I spot detail. And that seems more like just her bangs and the backpack to me.
And no. I DON'T WANT IT! Ugh.. >.<
Like I said earlier. I hate those two monkeys and they have nothing important to add to the storyline.
illuminati30
15-12-07, 22:58
Ah right, ok. Sorry i am reading to many threads at once, but yeah, they could still tell the story without them! See here (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=114185)! LOL!
silver_wolf
15-12-07, 22:58
That's funny, we had 6 games with good story line, and Anniversary without them, didn't we? :p
I think you're being rather generous with the word "story" for most of the classics.
illuminati30
15-12-07, 23:00
I think you're being rather generous with the word "story" for most of the classics.
Hmmm maybe, but TR4 is freshest in my mind, and **** me that had a story to it! AOD also did!
remember these are early pics ......
Treasure Seeker
16-12-07, 08:11
*sighs* How is the headset "evil"?
*sighs* How is the headset "evil"?
It ruins the atmosphere with the constant talking.
Treasure Seeker
16-12-07, 08:28
thanks for explaining
Melonie Tomb Raider
16-12-07, 21:26
i saw this too... it made me so happy!!
:jmp::jmp::jmp:
Me three! :jmp:
I'm gonna be honest: a lot of you are making it out that Lara and company carried on long winded conversations during levels. They didn't. Yes, they did chime in quite a bit, but not enough to totally ruin it. They were quiet when they needed to be.
I'm gonna be honest: a lot of you are making it out that Lara and company carried on long winded conversations during levels. They didn't. Yes, they did chime in quite a bit, but not enough to totally ruin it. They were quiet when they needed to be.
I partially agree with you but in my opinion they serve no purpose at all during the actual gameplay.
Shark_Blade
16-12-07, 23:48
This means Zip and Alister only appears in the cutscenes or fmvs if they're lucky (which I doubt haha! :mis::vlol:)
Carbonek_0051
17-12-07, 09:24
I'm gonna be honest: a lot of you are making it out that Lara and company carried on long winded conversations during levels. They didn't. Yes, they did chime in quite a bit, but not enough to totally ruin it. They were quiet when they needed to be.
I agree...
While most won't agree with me zip and alister were a great add on to the TR franchise...
They added humor to it....
And while most will say TR doesn't need humor...
It can't be serious all the time...
This isn't a soap opera...
jeffrey van oort
17-12-07, 09:49
Well maybe Lara Croft finally decided to take a satelite radio?:D
That is actually more realistic as it's reach is truly around the globe:D
However if any time distortions will be made difficulties might occur because in the past satelites.. well.. were not in outer space yet:D
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