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myrmaad
16-01-08, 11:50
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http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Tom+Cruise-19244.html

Cruise scientology video leaked

A four-year-old video of Tom Cruise talking about his Scientology beliefs has been leaked onto the internet. Cruise is shown discussing how he wants to spread the message of Scientology, saying: "You're in the playing field or out of the arena".
In the video, which features the Mission Impossible theme, he says a Scientologist driving past an accident is "the only one who can really help".
Last week, Cruise's lawyer branded a biography of the actor "sick stuff".
Bert Fields said Tom Cruise: An Unauthorised Biography by British author Andrew Morton - published in the US on Tuesday - was full of "tired old lies".
They included the "nutty" claim that Cruise was second-in-command at the Church of Scientology, he added.
'Drug rehabilitation'
In the nine-minute video, which has appeared on websites including video-sharing site YouTube, Cruise says: "Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident it's not like anyone else.
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Tom Cruise on Scientology


"As you drive past, you know you have to do something about it because you know you're the only one that can really help."
He said of being a Scientologist: "It's rough and tumble and it's wild and woolly and it's a blast.
"It's a blast. It really is fun because there is nothing better than going out there and fighting the fight and suddenly you see things are better."
He added: "We are the authorities on getting people off drugs, we are the authorities on the mind, we are the authorities on improving conditions... we can rehabilitate criminals... we can bring peace and unite communities."
'In or out'
Cruise said he wished "the world was a different place" and that he would "like to go on vacation and go and play".
"That's what I want to be and there's times I'd like to do that but I can't because I know. I know."
He said Scientologists had no time for "spectatorism" but instead had "a responsibly to educate and create the new reality".
"You are either in or you're out," he said.
He added: "We have that responsibly to say, 'Hey, this is the way it should be done because we do it this way and people are actually getting better and let's get it done'.
"Let's really get it done - let's have enough love and compassion and toughness that we're going to do it and do it right."

EscondeR
16-01-08, 11:54
If only I had their problems... :rolleyes:

Night Crawler
16-01-08, 11:55
Scientology sounds just as ridiculous as any other religion if you ask me.

DREWY
16-01-08, 12:26
The man with a personality the depth of a teaspoon.

Apofiss
16-01-08, 12:31
If only I had their problems... :rolleyes:

Ditto.

george_croft
16-01-08, 12:32
I rarely read anything about that nutter anymore, he annoys the crap outta me.

The man with a personality the depth of a teaspoon.

LOL!

Voni
16-01-08, 12:34
If only I had their problems... :rolleyes:

Tell me about it, methinks he has too much time to ponder this stuff...

Earthcane
16-01-08, 13:04
The man with a personality the depth of a teaspoon.
The height of a teaspoon too...:whi:

(Bad joke :D )

Alex Fly
16-01-08, 13:08
... http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u101/alex_fly/smileys/portnawak.gif

kryptonite23
16-01-08, 13:10
bad...bad..bad :(

bloodstormaoa
16-01-08, 13:14
I heard some of his speech on the radio yesterday and yeah, for anyone that still had their doubts.....he's completely lost it!

Forwen
16-01-08, 13:20
I don't get this babblage.

Quasimodo
16-01-08, 13:27
Silly celebs.

Geck-o-Lizard
16-01-08, 13:38
Well he has as much right to believe Scientology as any of you have to believe in your own religions. Don't criticise his unless you're willing to criticise your own just as harshly.

Quasimodo
16-01-08, 13:40
Well he has as much right to believe Scientology as any of you have to believe in your own religions. Don't criticise his unless you're willing to criticise your own just as harshly.

To be fair, his religion was made up by a science fiction writer. And it's pretty apparent that scientology is a scheme to part fools from their money. (http://www.xenu.net/)

myrmaad
16-01-08, 13:52
To be fair, his religion was made up by a science fiction writer.

True, true.


And it's pretty apparent that scientology is a scheme to part fools from their money. (http://www.xenu.net/)

Well, I can only think to myself "aren't they all"?

Quasimodo
16-01-08, 13:59
True, true.



Well, I can only think to myself "aren't they all"?

You could look at it that way, I guess. Not all of them are like that, of course ;)

myrmaad
16-01-08, 14:08
No? How do they pay for their churches, synagogues, or mosques, then?

Draco
16-01-08, 14:11
I don't see why a religion created by an author is any different than one created by a farmer...or a carpenter.

Quasimodo
16-01-08, 14:14
No? How do they pay for their churches, synagogues, or mosques, then?

Money from their followers, of course. I just wouldn't describe it with words like "scheme" and "fools" for absolutely all of them. That could be my own personal bias, though.

I think I can see where you're going with this: the scheming has to do with the 'organized' part of religion. Ideally everyone would believe what he or she wanted to believe and leave each other alone, but that ain't how it works :p Having a religious community can be a great spiritual asset. I'll admit the idea of some of these new 'mega churches' has got me feeling somewhat discomfited, too.

I don't see why a religion created by an author is any different than one created by a farmer...or a carpenter.

I knew it would be a matter of minutes before that came up. You've got me there.

rowanlim
16-01-08, 14:31
I don't like Tom Cruise. Nutter :smk:

Encore
16-01-08, 15:16
Scientology sounds just as ridiculous as any other religion if you ask me.

:vlol: So true..

ben_the_joka
16-01-08, 16:09
Scientology sounds just as ridiculous as any other religion if you ask me.

well said.

SamReeves
16-01-08, 16:39
The man with a personality the depth of a teaspoon.

LOL!!! :vlol:

Geck-o-Lizard
16-01-08, 16:39
To be fair, his religion was made up by a science fiction writer. And it's pretty apparent that scientology is a scheme to part fools from their money. (http://www.xenu.net/)

It's pretty apparent to me that every other religion in the world is equally fictitious and money-hungry. There's no more proof for God than there is for Xenu.

Quasimodo
16-01-08, 16:48
It's pretty apparent to me that every other religion in the world is equally fictitious and money-hungry. There's no more proof for God than there is for Xenu.

What is the prior cause to all other causes?

Where do we get the idea of perfection from?

How could something as intricate as humans and the universe be the product of chance?

Orionvalentine
16-01-08, 16:48
It's pretty apparent to me that every other religion in the world is equally fictitious and money-hungry. There's no more proof for God than there is for Xenu.

I wholeheartedly agree with you there. Religion comes from the people that preach it, think about it, somebody centuries ago created something that they believe in, and people these days think it is completely true. IMO religion is there to brainwash people into a false delusion that a 'genie' or omnipotent force will save them at the end of their days.

Geck-o-Lizard
16-01-08, 17:11
What is the prior cause to all other causes?

Where do we get the idea of perfection from?

How could something as intricate as humans and the universe be the product of chance?

Prior cause? I have no idea. But our ignorance isn't proof that it's supernatural.

Perfection? I don't believe in perfection. Nothing is ever "perfect". Even the smoothest of surfaces will have cracks and defects.

Chance? I don't believe in chance. Chance and randomness only exist where you're not seeing the full picture. Our field of view of the universe is extremely small, and there are millions upon millions upon millions of things out there that we have never experienced, felt, seen or even imagined. What seems incredible and beyond nature to you seems nothing but natural to me, and I hate the idea that I should believe that this was all created by a human-like being - it's horribly egotistical to think that humans (ie. man made in the image of God) are the only creative force in the universe.

Anyway. There is nothing anyone can say against Xenu that wouldn't equally apply to their own supernatural beliefs. So if you believe in a God, think twice before slamming Mr Cruise for his beliefs.

Hack
16-01-08, 17:24
The height of a teaspoon too...:whi:

(Bad joke :D )

lol :D

I would have said the depth of a petri dish with just about as much culture..

Earthcane
16-01-08, 17:34
^ :vlol:

The comedy on this forum is upping the ante :D

Someone needs to put Tom on Cruise Control...:whi:

(Okay, that was just bad. I'm gonna stop :D )

Cochrane
16-01-08, 19:38
What is the prior cause to all other causes?

Where do we get the idea of perfection from?

How could something as intricate as humans and the universe be the product of chance?

Why, Xenu of course. Or Zeus. Could be Anubis as well. Or the flying spaghetti monster. I'd personally root for Q.

@Hack: The culture a petri dish has can be useful, even save people from death. Can you say the same about Tom Cruise? Remember, he made the movie that featured "Tom Cruise playing as Tom Cruise playing a Samurai" (according to one critic). But I guess we don't need to worry too much, Cruise Missiles always blow up in the end.

Punaxe
16-01-08, 20:21
You're either in the playing field ...

http://files.noctifer.net/tomcruise1.jpg

... or you're out of the arenAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://files.noctifer.net/tomcruise2.jpg


Does he mean those who are not scientologists might as well not exist?

Rivendell
16-01-08, 20:26
I took it more as "You're either with us or against us." ;)

Punaxe
16-01-08, 20:27
I took it more as "You're either with us or against us." ;)

Yeah but isn't that pretty much the same, seeing the rest of the world as the enemy? You'd rather have them gone, no?

Vickkyyy
16-01-08, 20:31
The man with a personality the depth of a teaspoon.

:vlol:

Lenochka
17-01-08, 00:44
Tom Cruise is a goon
Jumping on Oprahs couch, Im suprised the Big O didn't slap the hell out of him.

Shark_Blade
17-01-08, 00:50
No wonder Nicole Kidman leave him, what a nutter. :rolleyes:

@Lenochka: LOL you reminded me of Scary Movie 4 ending scene where they parodied Tom Cruise and Oprah :vlol::vlol:

DREWY
17-01-08, 00:59
Isn't it thought amongst the scientology ranks that Tom Cruise's daughter is the reincarnation of Ron Hubbard?
Poor little bugger, she never had a chance.

Punaxe
17-01-08, 01:37
Also, if you still had some voice left (referring to the topic's title)...

See Panorama - Scientology and Me (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-126281853779690652), a BBC documentary on how critics of scientology are being silenced.

Ward Dragon
17-01-08, 05:14
Is this what it's all about? The stupid news program kept advertising something about Tom Cruise but I never cared enough to stick around and see what it was. I actually figured he killed someone or something equally bad based upon the impression the commercials gave. I didn't think it was just babbling about Scientology :p (*mumbles about the damned scientologists taking Chef away from South Park*)