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Do you think it will be longer and higher, like the classics? I'd like CD to change Lara's jumping action, it looks like she's swimming in the air.
I hated her jump in the old games. She jumped way too high, but I personally think it's fine how she jumps in TRL and TRA.
I LOVED Lara's jumps in the old game; they were so much fun. Lining up the really complicated ones, making sure she didn't over-jump, doing a banana in mid-air all added a little something to the game.
Her jumps now make no sense. Yes, she can do a huge jump IF, and only if, you're supposed to go that way. Otherwise, it's more of a hop. It's like they're using even her jumping skills to 'keep us on track'. Blegh.
I really hope her jumping distance & height are close to the TR1 - TR6 ones. The puny bunny hops from TRL & TRA made me sob tbh. They were so ridiculously small and glitchy (loads of frames missing when switching position). But seeing as the sprint and sprint jump are back, I have my hopes up. :)
The old jumping distances made the game challenging & immense. You didn't always know if you were able to do that jump or not. In Legend and Anniversary you always knew that you could do the jump and everything seemed so pre calculated for you. You just needed to run.. *correction* hop through the game. A pity really.
As for the monkey swing from the classics. That needs the be brought back. She looks so silly gliding towards the ledge just with one hand.
Oh and one more thing. SCREW REALISM!!
i prefer that Lara have realistic motions except for in this sra. The long leaps of faith are one of the many aspects that made her who she is. If CD or anyone from Eidos is listening i have a suggestion. For the motion capture aspect they should have the actor or actress on wires and launch them up to the same heights of the classic games. =)
Oh and one more thing. SCREW REALISM!!
:D
Lara is an Epic Character, so she needs Epic jumps. It doesn't have to be as huge as TR1-6, just alot bigger than TRA/Legend.
If you think Lara's long jumps are ridiculous, you should go play UT2004!
navinloveslara
18-01-08, 04:03
I think the TRL and TRA jumps definitely need to be improved, but they were in a way better than the originals. I think they're too short and seem to be leading us to where we can and can't go. We need jumps like in TR1-TR6. Not huge, long ones that seemed unreal, but higher, longer, and more standard, ie a standard distance, but it could change depending on how long/hard you press the button.
The sprint jump is back?!!?!?!
I hated her jump in the old games. She jumped way too high, but I personally think it's fine how she jumps in TRL and TRA.
:tmb: I agree with you!
Croft12301
18-01-08, 04:16
Actually Even though in Anniversary and Legend everything was so calculated there were times in Anniversary where I wasn't sure whertehr she would make the jump specifically in Egypt. But I think with every version of the game they seem to listen slightly more to us. So at least they are listening. But as the creators of the game they have to have some vision and opinion and can't let a bunch of whiny fans control their game even if we are the consumers. CD won't EVER please everyone and thats a fact.
The sprint jump is back?!!?!?!
That would totally make my day :jmp: But it would have to be at least somewhat close to the original sprint jump, not some perverse, wimpy-but-longer hop.
I want her original jumps back, too. Well I mostly want standardized jumps, but having the same distance as in the original would also be sweet. I want Lara to launch off in a predefined, consistent parabolic curve instead of pressing jump and all of a sudden Lara is taken through a parabolic curve that is calculated on the spot...I mean, when you think about that, CD's jumps are less realistic. Not to mention how those on-the-spot calculations may lock on to a different thing than you were anticipating.
florinandrei
18-01-08, 04:23
If CD or anyone from Eidos is listening i have a suggestion. For the motion capture aspect they should have the actor or actress on wires and launch them up to the same heights of the classic games. =)
Awesome! :yah:
well since they use the motioncapter the jumping animations should look morerealistic and not so puny as in tra and trl, i played tra yesterday and was so frustrated about the jumps, it looks so wierd how she holds her arms and has one leg bent infront the other,who jumps like that. its more like skippety skippety hop
Yes, I think her jumps should be higher and longer like they used to be.
These new ones pale in comparison. They're so pitiful compared to what she used to be able to do. :(
I think the newer TR games are more realistic with Laras jumps. The "old" games jumps were so high and long...
I prefer TRA and TRL jumping :jmp:
I hated her jump in the old games. She jumped way too high, but I personally think it's fine how she jumps in TRL and TRA.
i couldnt agree more (:
i thought it was kind of stupid for lara to jump like 3 feet off the ground with her hands in the air .
it was rediculas
Oh and one more thing. SCREW REALISM!!
One funny dude! :D :vlol:
I am fine with how ever Lara jumps as long as it is easy to jump far. :)
Tthe Spirit
18-01-08, 13:27
even though in the older games, jumping needed much more focus, her jump was so out of the ordinary and unpredictable.
I like her new jumping style, even her rapid motion, but i just hope jumping needs more focus and not just a megnet to ledges.
To me, it seems that in the older games, jumping was a key element of the gameplay, to figure out where to jump, how far, running jump or not, etc...and now, in the recent games, jumping is just a fancy way to go forward in the game, it is much more easy to do...but it's still fun IMO.
The should let them the way they are now... Like TRL and TRA...
If the game is really realistic made, they let them the way the are now...
I NEVER saw a girl/woman jump like lare in TR1 - TR6. NEVER...;
Oh and one more thing. SCREW REALISM!!
You're kidding, right? Even I, the Geek Girl can jump further and higher than her. *rolls eyes*
The new jumps remind me of a sweet kid song called 'Bunny dance'. Need I say more why?
Darko_2007
18-01-08, 16:51
Hi Everyone ! :) I liked the Angle of Darkness jump were Lara sprits and then takes a long "leap" lol to the other side. But of course I'd want this jump to be more realistic in Underworld.
I sure hope uts longer and higher this time around. sometimes in anniversary and legend I had the feeling taht i can ump better then lara does! :vlol:
silver_wolf
18-01-08, 17:10
Since they're using mo-cap this time around, I think it'll be longer but don't expect the AOD Olympic leap.
:D
Lara is an Epic Character, so she needs Epic jumps. It doesn't have to be as huge as TR1-6, just alot bigger than TRA/Legend.
That would rhyme if the game was made by Epic Games. But I agree. She is one epic character. :tmb:
Actually Even though in Anniversary and Legend everything was so calculated there were times in Anniversary where I wasn't sure whertehr she would make the jump specifically in Egypt. But I think with every version of the game they seem to listen slightly more to us. So at least they are listening. But as the creators of the game they have to have some vision and opinion and can't let a bunch of whiny fans control their game even if we are the consumers. CD won't EVER please everyone and thats a fact.But they can please more by making the game more unrealistic when it comes to her moves. Lots of people are complaining about how ''realistic'' she has been made to. She wasn't realistic for six bloody games! Why did they have to change her in to some bunny girl?
I think the newer TR games are more realistic with Laras jumps. The "old" games jumps were so high and long...
I prefer TRA and TRL jumping :jmp:High, long and immense. It's a game. I'd rather have immense jumps than puny bunny hops.
The should let them the way they are now... Like TRL and TRA...
If the game is really realistic made, they let them the way the are now...
I NEVER saw a girl/woman jump like lare in TR1 - TR6. NEVER...;So? It's a game. Does she need to be realistic?
You're kidding, right? Even I, the Geek Girl can jump further and higher than her. *rolls eyes*
The new jumps remind me of a sweet kid song called 'Bunny dance'. Need I say more why?Okay let me rephrase it: Screw Legend/TRA realism!!
Happy? :p
I seriously don't get why you people want her to have realistic abilities? She's a bloody game character for god's sake! The game is supposed to be entertaining, fun and immense. Legend was fun only because of the explosive combat. TRA was fun the first time because of exploring. But neither of them were that immense as the old games. Why? Her moves sucked.
Smackathon
18-01-08, 17:35
Rememer those trapoline jump thing you used to get in the old mario games they should have those in tru........NOT! she jumps fine now..could be a little less self lined up tho.
[QUOTE=Smackathon;2420284]Rememer those trapoline jump thing you used to get in the old mario games they should have those in tru........NOT! QUOTE]
If I remember, there was some kind of trampolines back in TR2 in China...It was fun to watch Lara jump that way!!:jmp:
I don't think the long jumps will come back. But I do want the sprint jump back, it was awesome!
Unrealistic long jumps. I won't miss them.
I want it to be a little longer, but not as long as in the classic games.
Oh, and it's so realistic that she can drop 10 feet and catch a ledge, and hang on no less, with just her fingertips... :rolleyes: Give her back her big jumps! :ohn:
lara_fanatic
18-01-08, 21:04
I want her jumps to be constant, meaning that they are the same distance EVERYTIME no more of her jumping further than normal just to reach a certain spot
The old jumping distances made the game challenging & immense. You didn't always know if you were able to do that jump or not.!
Is that a joke? In the old games it used a grid system. So for example if you did a running jump you would travel a certain amount of squares and it didnt take long to figure out.
Why is everybody so obsessed with realism?
If I wanted realism, I would go for a stroll outside.
Is that a joke? In the old games it used a grid system. So for example if you did a running jump you would travel a certain amount of squares and it didnt take long to figure out.
He means that when you stood at a gap and there was a ledge on the other side of it, you couldn't exactly tell the distance between you and the ledge, thus not being able to figure out if you could make the jump.
Now, there we don't have these kind of ledges, just ledges what you need and could reach without even thinking about the distance, since Lara sticks to them like fly on the fly-paper no matter what.
I'm not too fussed about this anymore since we got the confirmation of sprint and sprint jumps! :yah: Hopefully, it'll be flail-y and huge! :cln: But, not as huge as AoD's. :p Her moves need to at least be consistent.
Why is everybody so obsessed with realism?
If I wanted realism, I would go for a stroll outside.
Indeed! I guess that realism is impressive and great to look at, but it is not necessary fun to play...
Is that a joke? In the old games it used a grid system. So for example if you did a running jump you would travel a certain amount of squares and it didnt take long to figure out.
What she said:
He means that when you stood at a gap and there was a ledge on the other side of it, you couldn't exactly tell the distance between you and the ledge, thus not being able to figure out if you could make the jump.
Now, there we don't have these kind of ledges, just ledges what you need and could reach without even thinking about the distance, since Lara sticks to them like fly on the fly-paper no matter what.
:tmb:
Why is everybody so obsessed with realism?
If I wanted realism, I would go for a stroll outside.Agreed.
I also would love to see the 3 distance jumps back:
1. Jump from standing still or walking
2. Running jump (both were the same in Legend and Anniversary. Standing or running)
3. Sprint jump (which is back)
The reason I want the jump to stay the way it is because, I'm a realistic kind of guy. Also, Tomb Raider is also really unrealistic, but just keep the jump is all I have to say.
yeah...lara used to be able to jump 50 million feet in the air!!
i miss that...
I hope her jumps get a little bigger...her monkey hops are just pathetic.:o
LaraLover32
19-01-08, 14:24
I like the jumps from both time periods of the game. so i wouldn't care
FomarThain
19-01-08, 19:16
I hated her jump in the old games. She jumped way too high, but I personally think it's fine how she jumps in TRL and TRA.
:tmb:
Do you think it will be longer and higher, like the classics?
It would be great if it was classic, I don't like TRL jumping
i want them longer and higher like in the classics. realism should be implemented, but not when it takes away from the fun of playing a game.
and her breath bar should be about a minute. she's suppose to be fit, and athletic, and she cant hold her breath for longer than 30 seconds?
Yes, I think her jumps should be higher and longer like they used to be.
These new ones pale in comparison. They're so pitiful compared to what she used to be able to do. :(
Agreed 100%
I really hope her jumping distance & height are close to the TR1 - TR6 ones. The puny bunny hops from TRL & TRA made me sob tbh. They were so ridiculously small and glitchy (loads of frames missing when switching position). But seeing as the sprint and sprint jump are back, I have my hopes up. :)
The old jumping distances made the game challenging & immense. You didn't always know if you were able to do that jump or not. In Legend and Anniversary you always knew that you could do the jump and everything seemed so pre calculated for you. You just needed to run.. *correction* hop through the game. A pity really.
As for the monkey swing from the classics. That needs the be brought back. She looks so silly gliding towards the ledge just with one hand.
Oh and one more thing. SCREW REALISM!!
well, the tiny hops did look real....but I would love for her to do the huge sprint jump in the AOD.....I was jumping everywhere with that ability!!!:jmp:
well, the tiny hops did look real....but I would love for her to do the huge sprint jump in the AOD.....I was jumping everywhere with that ability!!!:jmp:
the tiny hops looked stupid. and her run+jump was too short. i can jump much farther than her when i run+jump.
the tiny hops looked stupid. and her run+jump was too short. i can jump much farther than her when i run+jump.
dude, I mean the jump in the angel of darkness.....unless your in the olympics, not many people hop over the length of a pool!:ohn:
dude, I mean the jump in the angel of darkness.....unless your in the olympics, not many people hop over the length of a pool!:ohn:
i was talking about the run+jump in TR Legend and TRA, they were puny. the AOD ones were very long. but thats what made it run, and risky. even if it was unrealistic.
TrKing_Rulz
19-01-08, 21:40
If they're going to keep it short, I want the old WAY of jumping back. No more:
Ohh! There's a ledge, I'll do a crappily automated grab animation.
I'd rather have:
Ohh! There's a ledge, I'll let the gamer decide if they want to grab or not and I won't let them know it's there.
i was talking about the run+jump in TR Legend and TRA, they were puny. the AOD ones were very long. but thats what made it run, and risky. even if it was unrealistic.
oh! HA HA! my bad.....I thought you were saying the AOD jumps were puny.....if you did....you be tripping!! Lo siento....(sorry in spanish):cln:
Speaking of Lara's jump...well, I miss the backflip; I loved when, in the first games (the good old days!), we had to make Lara backflip on a slope, slide a bit,then jump to grab higher edges Lara was not able to grab otherwise. It was fun :cln:
Big jumps ? Yes, like the ones in TR3. Not as huge as in AOD, those were really super big jumps.
fondantcookie
23-01-08, 21:09
How high can Heidi Moneymaker Jump?
Thats how high I think our Lara will be jumping! (or there abouts..)!!
:wve:
They really need to improve her jump distance/height. As it is now, its pitiful!...
And they need a standardised jump distance/height that makes sense. None of the pre-scripted jumps where she suddenly jumps twice as far that we're so evident in Legend/Anniversary !
:tmb:
They already chage her old jump,so..no problem now :)
i like the longer jump although they use to :cen: off!
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