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Lara has always been sort of a *****.
I think a lot of people don't like that, but I love it.
I want Lara to be as fierce as possible. CD, you have to totally pump up Lara's diva attitude, and make her a bad ass conceited *****.
What do you guys think?
I like Lara to be the kind of woman who takes no rubbish from anyone but I don't wont her to be a b:cen: and sound like this:
Winston: Hello Lady Croft, how are you today?
Lara: Shut the :cen: up Winston or I lock you in the freezer. :D
Tina Croft
20-01-08, 00:22
no! please not.
don't make Lara a b****. she sould stay like in Anniversary.
i would hate it, if she turns to a b**** :mad:
Tina Croft
20-01-08, 00:25
Winston: Hello Lady Croft, how are you today?
Lara: Shut the :cen: up Winston or I lock you in the freezer. :D
:jmp: that's really funny :D
Lara has never been a bad ass conceited *****, not even in AOD so there is no reason to make her one now.
ajrich17901
20-01-08, 00:28
Lara has never been a bad ass conceited *****, not even in AOD so there is no reason to make her one now.
Yea im goin wit ur answer lol
Well, don't make her a *****, but give back her attitude from the originals. In TRA (and Legend), especially when talking with Natla, she sounded (and looked) like a drama queen. What I really liked in the originals that she was rather calm and moderated, yet her look could kill. :D
Everybody, you have got to agmit that Lara's always been a bit of a *****, just a bit. I love it.
I'm not saying she should be rude. Just that she should know what she wants, and not let anything get in her way. And she should have a fierce diva bad ass attitude.
This should be Lara's attitude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrQX2Dhrl8I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Bqf23u-40&feature=related
HAHAHA, just kidding.
Tina Croft
20-01-08, 00:46
This should be Lara's attitude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrQX2Dhrl8I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Bqf23u-40&feature=related
HAHAHA, just kidding.
very nice! :jmp: :jmp: :D
hmmm....I think Lara should still have her "good confident" attitude, but also her bad attitude with bad guys....like her with Rutland in TRL.
Lara has always been sort of a *****.
I think a lot of people don't like that, but I love it.
I want Lara to be as fierce as possible. CD, you have to totally pump up Lara's diva attitude, and make her a bad ass conceited *****.
What do you guys think?
There is a big difference between being a :cen: and being fierce. The scene at the end of Legend, where she's waving the gun in Amanda's face while spouting that beautiful writing, still sends chills down my spine each time I watch it. No lie.:rolleyes:
I want something fierce again like - "Make sense right this second or I swear I'll execute you where you stand!", and "WHERE - IS - MY - MOTHER!!!". Beautifully spoken.;)
If there is one word that could some up Lara's personality to me it would be DETERMINATION! She just will not give up, ever :)
She can be cold, calm and collected when she needs to be :D
Chris.Talg0
20-01-08, 05:17
She can be cold, calm and collected when she needs to be :D
agreed! :tmb:
yea lara isnt a diiiiiiiiivaaaaaaaaaaaa! xD no never will be to.
I think its a matter of opinions...to me, she's slightly b****y but I'm fine with it, because it's part of her charm :p
The last cutscene of TRL was unnerving because she NEVER loses her cool...plus she's older than she was in TRA right? somehow I felt that she was calmer in TRA than in TRL :rolleyes:
CD must strike a balance so that her character is faithful to her fans yet not over the top :D
Take TR:A's Interrogation of Larson, and TR4's scene right before she get's on the train.
Give us more of that and I'll be happy.
:tmb:
I just want her to be more together. I hate the sad faces she's making all the time, and all the regret she's showing. It's like she's indecisive, and when she does make up her mind, she regrets it, and her eyes leak.
He attacked her, kill him, no need to cry after that or look at him with that "I'm a messenger of peace" smile saying "I'm really not your enemy" - Ghana after Rutland Boss Fight. Might as well say "There's no need to fight. Love is the way"
They did give her good Lara-ish quotes like "You won't enjoy seeing me again", or "I mean to be cold". But most of these quote made her look more like hot headed instead of tough. I'd like a more mature approach and less drama in her quotes.
Evangelina
20-01-08, 09:23
She should keep her Anniversary personality. No, make that her original personality, Cool Calm and kick-ass.
I suppose she is a bit of a B**** but to me it's more like attitude, she's got attitude.
The last cutscene of TRL was unnerving because she NEVER loses her cool...plus she's older than she was in TRA right? somehow I felt that she was calmer in TRA than in TRL :rolleyes:
Old age...it's getting to her :rolleyes:
pastadudde
20-01-08, 10:54
Maybe shoot everyone she doesn't like.
Allister: "Lara, I..."
BANG.
Lara: "One annoying git down."
Zip: "Lara..."
BANG.
Lara: "Two annoying gits down."
Winston: "Miss Croft, what's wrong..."
BANG.
Lara: "Ahh, the beauty of silence..."
Tthe Spirit
20-01-08, 11:45
i like the AJ attitude of Lara Croft.
Focused, sarcastic and selfish.
CD just need to reduce the emotionality abit.
As lara now looks in the screens, she seems perfect.
I dont want lara to be a bad ass tbh. She can be a kick-ass and she can be tough but being an actual nice and intelligent person who cares about stuff like animal's and ancient civilisation's is what sets her apart from all the other action heroes today. I guess im saying i dont want her to be so shallow.
navinloveslara
20-01-08, 14:56
I like Lara to be the kind of woman who takes no rubbish from anyone but I don't wont her to be a b:cen: and sound like this:
Winston: Hello Lady Croft, how are you today?
Lara: Shut the :cen: up Winston or I lock you in the freezer. :D
I SO agree.:p
No_more_bullets
20-01-08, 15:54
I understand what people miss about the core design Lara. Imo the core design lara and crystal lara are noticably different, and her diva-ness, cold edged unpredictable fierce amazonian character (or as my friend reminded me: 'a stern teacher with no room for compromise and a love of chaos') has suffered slightly from the transition.
that being said, Crystal have improved Lara in many ways, predominantly by making her much less 2d-although again, i liked it when she had a mystery about her, not letting anyone in etc. I agree she was far too girly-emo in legend (compared to previous Lara incarnations) but that was improved upon even in anniversary.
I have full faith in Crystal because they really do listen to the fans and i believe underworld lara will be even better.
Plus it may appear unsociable, but i think lara should have less friends to rely on, i liked her loner persona, Lara against the world.
I dont want lara to be a bad ass tbh. She can be a kick-ass and she can be tough but being an actual nice and intelligent person who cares about stuff like animal's and ancient civilisation's is what sets her apart from all the other action heroes today. I guess im saying i dont want her to be so shallow.
Basically making her who she wasn't in the first place? Oh yeah I forgot Crystal already did that. She's a bloody TOMB RAIDER. Not an archaeologist. She was a rebel. She didn't fancy the life she was being offered. She wasn't a daddy's girl like the Legend (& movie) storyline insists. She was cold blooded, sarcastic, witty and enjoyed RAIDING tombs for fun. She kept what she found and didn't give them to the museums or laboratories to examine. She's not a hero even though she's saved the world on various occasions. She's a bloody grave robber and has reputation for being the best.
Unfortunately I can't say the same about TRL/TRA Lala. And don't give me with the ''She's Toby's baby. He can do what ever he wants!'' or ''The old Lara was a robot'' because those are just poor excuses for making her a wimp.
Emotions are good, don't get me wrong. But being a wussy is something uncharacteristic of Lara.
Basically making her who she wasn't in the first place? Oh yeah I forgot Crystal already did that. She's a bloody TOMB RAIDER. Not an archaeologist. She was a rebel. She didn't fancy the life she was being offered. She wasn't a daddy's girl like the Legend (& movie) storyline insists. She was cold blooded, sarcastic, witty and enjoyed RAIDING tombs for fun. She kept what she found and didn't give them to the museums or laboratories to examine. She's not a hero even though she's saved the world on various occasions. She's a bloody grave robber and has reputation for being the best.
Unfortunately I can't say the same about TRL/TRA Lala. And don't give me with the ''She's Toby's baby. He can do what ever he wants!'' or ''The old Lara was a robot'' because those are just poor excuses for making her a wimp.
Emotions are good, don't get me wrong. But being a wussy is something uncharacteristic of Lara.
A wussy? When was she ever a wussy in legend and anniversary. If your talking about when she got a tiny but emotional when she killed larson and when she revisited the place where her mother died your the most shallow person i know. Lara is still all the things you mentioned but this time she just happens to be getting the artifacts for her parents sake, she still has fun having it. She wasnt a cold blooded killer in anniversary but thats ok since she wasnt one in tr1 either, in legend she was a cold blooded killer though because it wasnt her first kill anymore.
If your talking about when she got a tiny but emotional when she killed larson and when she revisited the place where her mother died your the most shallow person i know.
Mind what you're saying.
She wasnt a cold blooded killer in anniversary
Err, yes she was. That was the point of that cutscene - to impress upon the player that Lara is willing to go to such lengths to get what she wants.
Larson stood in her way and didn't move, so she killed him. That seemed pretty cold-blooded for the vast majority of players.
:wve:
Err, yes she was. That was the point of that cutscene - to impress upon the player that Lara is willing to go to such lengths to get what she wants.
Larson stood in her way and didn't move, so she killed him. That seemed pretty cold-blooded for the vast majority of players.
:wve:
I thought cold blooded was sort of slang for she didnt really care that she was killing people. In anniversary she was willing to kill him but she did feel sorry for him when she (finally) did.
I like the ambivalence of fierceness and good education at the same time.
Killing someone in Cold Blood is killing them without adequate reason / without being provoked. Lara didn't have to kill Larson because at that point he didn't pull a gun on her.
"I don't have time for this, get out of the way or you die."
"I can't let you pass, you're not going to kill me, that's not who you are!"
"I'm not who you think I am."
*Kills Larson*
Now if Larson had slapped her about a bit just beforehand, or come at her with a knife, it would've been murder in self defence. He didn't though, he just stood there and told her to go away and she killed him for it.
I suppose in that respect it *can* be seen as not really caring about who you kill, and at that point Lara didn't. It was only afterwards that she had her little freak-out.
Killing someone in Cold Blood is killing them without adequate reason. Lara didn't have to kill Larson because at that point he didn't pull a gun on her.
"I don't have time for this, get out of the way or you die."
"I can't let you pass, you're not going to kill me, that's not who you are!"
"I'm not who you think I am."
*Kills Larson*
Now if Larson had slapped her about a bit just beforehand, or come at her with a knife, it would've been murder in self defence. He didn't though, he just stood there and told her to go away and she killed him for it.
Ok then looks like i got it slightly wrong.
A wussy? When was she ever a wussy in legend and anniversary. If your talking about when she got a tiny but emotional when she killed larson and when she revisited the place where her mother died your the most shallow person i know.
An emotional wreck then. Her emotions were all over the place in both Anniversary and Legend.
And thank you.
An emotional wreck then. Her emotions were all over the place in both Anniversary and Legend.
And thank you.
She was like a monkey on crack and PMS'ing badly. Not good in my book.
Killing someone in Cold Blood is killing them without adequate reason / without being provoked. Lara didn't have to kill Larson because at that point he didn't pull a gun on her.
"I don't have time for this, get out of the way or you die."
"I can't let you pass, you're not going to kill me, that's not who you are!"
"I'm not who you think I am."
*Kills Larson*
Now if Larson had slapped her about a bit just beforehand, or come at her with a knife, it would've been murder in self defence. He didn't though, he just stood there and told her to go away and she killed him for it.
I suppose in that respect it *can* be seen as not really caring about who you kill, and at that point Lara didn't. It was only afterwards that she had her little freak-out.
I loved that cutscene and I think Lara hugely regretted killing Larson. Even if they did fight and had a tiff in the past, Lara didn't fear him nor did she hate him.
"If that's the sort of attention you want Larson, your well on your way"
I think killing Larson was why she destroyed the scion. She could see what kind of a person she was becoming.
I don't mind Lara being a wuss to be honest. I'd much rather someone who cares than some emotionless :cen:
She was like a monkey on crack and PMS'ing badly. Not good in my book.:vlol: You could put it that way! :tmb:
And she did have emotions in the old games. She just never really showed her sad side.
An emotional wreck then. Her emotions were all over the place in both Anniversary and Legend.
And thank you.
LOL that made me laugh a bit. Other than the ending of legend she kept her emotions completley under controll! Sometimes she would look at something with sad eyes like dieing larson and the ghalali key but thats about it.
pizzabob18
20-01-08, 16:51
Well, I'd prefer a compromise. I don't want her to cry every time she kills a man, or even an animal. However, I don't want her to swear at Winston, or constantly be rude, crude, and socially unattractive either.
It's one thing to be sad. I don't mind the mom storyline, sure, one's mom disappears and all, one is bound to be sad. But there are so many ways to show that, going all ****y and whacking Amanda on the head isn't one of them. It made her look like an insane, irrational, monkey on crack.
It's not about emotions, wether Lara feels sad or not. We all do and as a "human" character, Lara should too. But it's how the game developers chose her to express it that bothers me. She always seemed like a cool, calm tempered person to me. A killer? Yes, but a calm one. That reaction of her was so out of character, it's not even funny. I'm not saying they should've cut it out, yet they've could've handled it much differently and still stay true to Lara's original personality.
Instead of making her look like a badass or a Hollywood action hero, they made her look like a chick PMS'ing looking for maxipads and chocolate on a car part shop.
^ :vlol:
So funny and yet so spot on.
It's one thing to be sad. I don't mind the mom storyline, sure, one's mom disappears and all, one is bound to be sad. But there are so many ways to show that, going all ****y and whacking Amanda on the head isn't one of them. It made her look like an insane, irrational, monkey on crack.
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I agree!
If she'd of helped Amanda up or something she might have learned where the next dais was. THEN whacked her round the head with the gun.
She could've held her at gunpoint yes, but do it calmly. At least that's how I think the old Lara (whoever she is) would've acted. And then whack her in the head XD
She could've held her at gunpoint yes, but do it calmly. At least that's how I think the old Lara (whoever she is) would've acted. And then whack her in the head XD
But then again wouldn't you be a little annoyed if you'd travelled to about 8places (I think there are 8 levels) to learn that'd you'd just destroyed everything that you were working towards?
Also how does Lara afford all these trips?
She's rich. And prolly travels in low-cost air companies.
Annoyed? Yes. Completely irrational? I think higher of myself than that XD and I'm a hot head.
Well, I'd prefer a compromise. I don't want her to cry every time she kills a man, or even an animal. However, I don't want her to swear at Winston, or constantly be rude, crude, and socially unattractive either.
She already does neither
HolidayCroft
20-01-08, 17:57
i want Laras attitude to be sarcastic more than a b:cen: i think she talks like that in Ghana on Legend
zaracroftx
25-01-08, 19:20
i think that the crystal dynamics lara has more or less the same attitude as core designs lara but i think that cry dyn has made a better improvement in making lara a bit more remoarseful and polite and thoughtful, she needs to be like that in underworld, she should be assertive so she should be polite when she should be but when she comes across evil b****s like amanda she should really kick ass and take none of that s****t
Hmm.. I'm currently watching the TR1 movie and I'm really liking her attitude so far. She's not that emotional in it and she still has that kick ass attitude. Shoot first, ask questions later.
Keep Lara's emotions from TRL, ask first, shoot later ;).
KurtisLonely
25-01-08, 19:26
This should be Lara's attitude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrQX2Dhrl8I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Bqf23u-40&feature=related
HAHAHA, just kidding.
omg :D:tea:
;2439826']Keep Lara's emotions from TRL, ask first, shoot later ;).I can't remember seeing Lara in Legend? Where was she?
*sarcasm*
zaracroftx
25-01-08, 19:28
why does everyone find her sooo mysterious, i also found out that most people thought she was cold blooded a little during the core design lara
I can't remember seeing Lara in Legend? Where was she?
*sarcasm*
:vlol::vlol::vlol:
So then, buy new glasses...
Hmm.. I'm currently watching the TR1 movie and I'm really liking her attitude so far. She's not that emotional in it and she still has that kick ass attitude. Shoot first, ask questions later.
My favourite scene was when Bryce complains that his butt went to sleep again and Lara replies drily with a bored expression on her face. That was so Lara-ish XD They got the attitude right in the movie.
My favourite scene was when Bryce complains that his butt went to sleep again and Lara replies drily with a bored expression on her face. That was so Lara-ish XD They got the attitude right in the movie.Oh that was priceless! They need to bring that attitude back! :D I also like the scene with the mercs in the Croft manor. Lara just looks at the merc, tilts her head and goes ''Hmm''.
Last Angel
25-01-08, 20:24
i agree sorta i want the AOD Lara attitude back she had the perfect amount of bad a*** about her :D
littlepenguin
25-01-08, 20:25
tr1 was a great movie, excellent character representation, some parts of absolute genius then we got the 2nd one! how should i put it... it was em....
........interesting
PirateFromPeru
25-01-08, 20:29
I can't picture her attitude changing. Personally, I think she's fine the way she is. Not too mean but not too kind either. A little more in the middle.:D
I like Lara to be the kind of woman who takes no rubbish from anyone but I don't wont her to be a b:cen: and sound like this:
Winston: Hello Lady Croft, how are you today?
Lara: Shut the :cen: up Winston or I lock you in the freezer. :D
bahahaha
Love it!!
A *****-y Lara would be interesting. It wouldn't surprise me if she was one in this game since she could possibly be looking for her mama.
lara's not a *****. she's a tough, mature woman that doesnt take any **** from anyone, but likes to have fun. which i saw a lot in the TR1 Movie, and none in TR7/TRA. she was so whiny in the last two games. the "Where-is-my-mother!?!" wasn't badass, it made her look like it was "that time of the month" for her. AOD lara was a little too gothic/dark.
hopefully TRU will show Lara's real characteristics.
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