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Mr.Burns
23-01-08, 22:51
Poll requested by Kooky. I am aware that there was a religion thread not that long ago, however we will continue it here.

kooky
23-01-08, 22:59
Hmm, I would have to say my beliefs blend with Buddhism & Jainism, I do believe in most of The Buddha's & Vardhamana Mahavira's Teachings. However, My parents are Christians. ;)

PARANOIA
23-01-08, 23:00
Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.

nick-xx
23-01-08, 23:00
Christian, hmm again a religion thread??

Legends
23-01-08, 23:01
I'm not religious.

coolezpunk
23-01-08, 23:02
I'm a Catholic Christian! :wve:

Gabi
23-01-08, 23:04
No religion.

Nausinous
23-01-08, 23:07
I believe that there is a power and the name I thought of that power came originaly idea came for Angel the T.V series when they named the one power in the universe as 'The powers that be...'. That is what I use to refer to as the power that exists in our universe, by the name 'The powers that be...'. I would prefer to use that term and not try to communicate to something I did not understand. S'why I voted other!

Capt. Murphy
23-01-08, 23:08
Christian>Protestant>Apostolic>Pentecostal.

Twilight
23-01-08, 23:09
Other, not religious, i have my own theories/philosophy about life.

DREWY
23-01-08, 23:12
Christian +/-
BTW, whats 'Jain'?

SamReeves
23-01-08, 23:13
Born and raised as a Lutheran (Christian).

kooky
23-01-08, 23:13
BTW, whats 'Jain'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism

:wve:

Forwen
23-01-08, 23:14
Atheist and apostate.

Limblifter
23-01-08, 23:14
Agnostic, if that counts as a religion.

Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.

Heeee.

GodOfLight
23-01-08, 23:20
Did we not just have a poll like this recently? :confused:

I hate having to be lumped with Wicca. I am most certainly a Pagan, a Hedonist, a Sethian, a Satanist, a Witch, and an Atheist. But I gave up on Wicca a long time ago... wasn't my thing.

Alchemy of the mind, and personal transformation is also my path.

Melonie Tomb Raider
23-01-08, 23:22
Christian>Protestant>Christian and Missionary Alliance

Mr.Burns
23-01-08, 23:24
Jewish.

bett
23-01-08, 23:26
Baptist

Tihocan9
23-01-08, 23:29
Catholic (Christian)

Capt. Murphy
23-01-08, 23:29
Christian>Protestant>Christian and Missionary Alliance
Does your church support Fereign Missions? And have you ever heard of a newsletter called 'Voice of the Martyrs'?

thecentaur
23-01-08, 23:34
hmmm.... why are some people athiests? i'm sorry if i sound offensive, but i was just clearly wondering. is it because of their family?

GodOfLight
23-01-08, 23:35
^ Because "God is Dead" :D

(to some... actually, to many :D)

Melonie Tomb Raider
23-01-08, 23:38
Does your church support Fereign Missions? And have you ever heard of a magazine called 'Voice of the Martyrs'?

Yes, we do.

Never heard of the book though. I'll have to check it out. :D

TombFreak
23-01-08, 23:40
I'm not religious, I live my life my way.

EgyptianSoul
23-01-08, 23:41
Atheist here. "Divorced" church when I was 16. :vlol:

MiCkiZ88
23-01-08, 23:56
Born and raised as a Lutheran (Christian).Same. :wve:

Geck-o-Lizard
24-01-08, 00:12
A. Thee. Ist.

oocladableeblah
24-01-08, 00:18
I guess Christian since I believe in what they believe, but I'm not super religious.

SpongeBob Lover
24-01-08, 00:19
I was raised to be catholic but turned out Agnostic.

Veronica Ma
24-01-08, 00:28
Buddhist... and yet I'm not religious either.

Vertigo
24-01-08, 00:49
I-don`t-care-ist. I believe sometimes but God is old ******* becoz he doesnt` care about us.

AmericanAssassin
24-01-08, 01:07
Christian -> Protestant ;)

Thorir
24-01-08, 01:23
Nature is my religion.

vespertea
24-01-08, 01:36
Christian. Unsure about my denomination right now.. So, nondenominational I guess.

Jensie17
24-01-08, 01:49
Witchcraft

rowanlim
24-01-08, 03:03
Buddhist :D

TR 4 LIFE
24-01-08, 04:25
I'm catholic......i'm not extremly religious....but I do belive in el padre, el hijo, hispirito, y el santo (the father, son, holy spirit, and the saints)

Evan C.
24-01-08, 04:26
Im open-mind :)

Evangelina
24-01-08, 04:56
Raised as a Muslim, yet have no religious bone in my body (suppose I take after my dad in that notion).

I like to have my own philosophies on life and my own values. So I suppose agnostic.

Kamnelomo
24-01-08, 05:27
Other, not religious, i have my own theories/philosophy about life.

Me too. :tmb:

Cochrane
24-01-08, 06:45
Atheist. And while I enjoy a good debate about religion, I think we had enough of that for the rest of the month, so I won't participate much here if this turns into an actual discussion. It just gets boring after a while.

BtoFu
24-01-08, 06:50
Roman Catholic. Anyone got a problem with that? I DIDN'T THINK SO. :cool:

Rivendell
24-01-08, 07:29
Paganism best fits my beliefs/ how I live my life.

:wve:

PoetOfTheLife
24-01-08, 07:39
Muslim:wve:

ivannnnn
24-01-08, 08:40
I'm Sunni Muslim but Shi'a is not too bad. :) :wve:

Obscure
24-01-08, 08:43
No religion

Mona Sax
24-01-08, 09:17
hmmm.... why are some people athiests? i'm sorry if i sound offensive, but i was just clearly wondering. is it because of their family?
I can't speak for anybody else, but personally I don't have any particular reason. Religions just don't convince me. I've read the bible, just like I've read other ancient mythological texts. I see them as interesting stories, but still works of fiction, not factual reports. I don't believe in Zeus or Osiris, so I don't see any reason why other religions should be more convincing. My family is moderately Christian, by the way.

myrmaad
24-01-08, 09:21
I'm not defined by 'religion', so I've decided to skip these threads in future. :wve:

Beanz
24-01-08, 09:45
Christian.:).

Kamrusepas
24-01-08, 09:46
Devoted atheist :)

NemesisxAngelus
24-01-08, 09:57
Other, not religious, i have my own theories/philosophy about life.

Ditto.

Necromanser
24-01-08, 10:04
Muslim.

RAID
24-01-08, 10:30
Christian

glitterpaws
24-01-08, 10:39
Muslim:)

touchthesky
24-01-08, 11:24
I am not religious in the slightest, but I have no problem with those who are.

I love Hinduism, however.

Aria
24-01-08, 11:31
Atheist/Agnostic im open to suggestion

NightWish
24-01-08, 11:34
well I am christian Ortodox (sp?) but I am not really religious. i am just raised as one

kryptonite23
24-01-08, 11:36
Christian>>Adventists :D

cristina8992
24-01-08, 11:39
Catholic Christian. I'm not very religious, though.

If God is really up there, and he's so good, merciful and all that, why doesn't he make the world a better place? Why do innocent people die every day and criminals live happily without being caught? Why do spoiled brats get everything they could possibly want and millions of children starve? Everything is just so unfair...

Okay, I'm done.:o

Lara's Backpack
24-01-08, 11:56
If I were to follow anything, it would be bits and pieces from everything.

So... Agnostic, as I question it all, I guess...

Rexie
24-01-08, 12:34
I dunno O_o

but serously,A Christian and a Catholic(or how do you spell it)

Finland and Lithuania don't match :ohn:

or I serously don't know...

mizuno_suisei
24-01-08, 12:45
I don't want a book written by someone who was bored control my life. Religion causes War. In other words, I guess I'm an athiest.

Reggie
24-01-08, 12:48
"Other".

I pick and mix according to my own beliefs. Plenty of philosophy, some Buddhism, a bit of Paganism even. :)

Conway
24-01-08, 12:59
Roman Catholic here...but occassionally 'shaken.'

Sedge
24-01-08, 13:24
Christianity > Lutheranism. Yay. :p

deepbluesea
24-01-08, 13:38
Pagan. But with my own mind, I choose what i believe is right or wrong. But I love nature and believe we all have a mother.

Chiki Mina
24-01-08, 13:45
Christian-Baptist :wve:

digitizedboy
24-01-08, 13:53
It's my right not to have a faith anymore. :)

JamesFKirk
24-01-08, 13:53
Well.. With me it's a bit problematic. I believe there is a higher power, however, I do also believe it to be impossible to define within "human terms", if you get what I mean. That means I don't believe in any of the specified religions, however, I'm not an agnostic (however, you could say I'm very close to it, since believing in the existence of something(even though not knowing what specificaly) is not outright religion, and I clearly do not worship any diety, even though I sometimes speak to "it/them") or even atheistic.

kill bill
24-01-08, 14:20
I'm a Catholic Christian:):)

petujaymz
24-01-08, 14:30
Christian (Any Denomination - post yours)

Roman Catholic.

Can't remember the last time I was dragged to church; think I was about fourteen/fifteen.

:wve:

Punaxe
24-01-08, 16:09
Atheist.

Encore
24-01-08, 16:13
Atheist.

Is that a religion in itself?


:p


Personally I didn't reply because I don't support any organized religion. I am not even sure about my own beliefs, I think I'll spend my whole life thinking about this matter and reading and studying and never settle down. :o I just know I believe in some sort of superior force behind the workings of the Universe.

Melonie Tomb Raider
24-01-08, 16:22
Is that a religion in itself?
Personally I didn't reply because I don't support any organized religion. I am not even sure about my own beliefs, I think I'll spend my whole life thinking about this matter and reading and studying and never settle down. :o I just know I believe in some sort of superior force behind the workings of the Universe.

That makes you agnostic then... I think.

Personally, I think Atheist and Agnostic should have two different spaces instead of sharing one, because there is a big difference.

Punaxe
24-01-08, 16:25
Is that a religion in itself?

No, but it's in the list, and a valid reply to a question as "what is your religion", wouldn't you agree? :)

Colin125
24-01-08, 16:29
Satanism


Only kidding. I guess I'm Christian/Protestant. I'm not very religious at all though.

tweetygwee
24-01-08, 17:06
Agnostic. Melonie, I agree. Doesn't really bother me, but it's a bit assuming to group agnostics and atheists together.

Encore
24-01-08, 17:09
No, but it's in the list, and a valid reply to a question as "what is your religion", wouldn't you agree? :)

Yeah I guess, I was just hinting at the fact that sometimes people can be extremely fundamentalist about their atheism too, hence following it as a religion! :o

Not sure about if I fit the agnostic label though. I always considered most agnostics to be a lot more skeptical about spirituality than I am.

Greenkey2
24-01-08, 17:21
Faith yes, religion no.

Dark Lugia 2
24-01-08, 17:26
Muslim :8}

Noodleboy
24-01-08, 19:50
I don't have any religion, though my ancestors were Jewish.

Tomb Raider Master
24-01-08, 20:57
Christian.

snork
24-01-08, 22:04
Sorry, vocabulary lacks here :

A-theist and A-gnostic to me are unacceptable terms, as they define by negative and they are terms created/used by people who are religious / god-believing.

Also with the definition-by-negative they imply that Theist / Gnostic is the base/true thing / 'normal' and A-theist / A-gnostic is the abberration / un-normal.

Now guess if I am religious :D

Librarian
24-01-08, 22:30
I said Agnostic, but as far as belief systems go... well, I'm currently studying Advaita Vedanta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advaita), which is making a lot of sense to me (to a certain extent).

gtkilla
24-01-08, 22:33
I don't have one. =/ Atheist, here.

Admles
24-01-08, 23:32
My faith is in myself. Thats all anyone ever needs IMHO.

Punaxe
25-01-08, 01:38
Sorry, vocabulary lacks here :

A-theist and A-gnostic to me are unacceptable terms, as they define by negative and they are terms created/used by people who are religious / god-believing.

Also with the definition-by-negative they imply that Theist / Gnostic is the base/true thing / 'normal' and A-theist / A-gnostic is the abberration / un-normal.

Now guess if I am religious :D

What is wrong with defining by a negative here? On the question of "religion", the only answer for non-believers can only be a negative, no? No god, a-theist. And well, language is old, and back in the days, believing in a god indeed was the norm. :)

Tthe Spirit
25-01-08, 08:06
Muslim. :hug::hug::hug::hug:

Ikas90
25-01-08, 09:50
Christian Orthodox. :wve:

Andariel
25-01-08, 11:20
Presbyterian

ajrich17901
25-01-08, 11:28
Chritian but i dont follow it i live my life the way i wanna

SLAYER
25-01-08, 11:46
Muslim :)

Voni
25-01-08, 12:22
I've put 'other' because I don't buy into any one religion, I believe in a God or Gods, but I don't think any of us know any more than that.

Dakaruch
25-01-08, 13:21
Atheist/agnostic :wve:

raiderfun
25-01-08, 13:22
Muslim :) :wve:

Darko_2007
25-01-08, 14:48
orthodox christian ;)

Lara Croft!
25-01-08, 16:12
Christian Orthodox

Nannonxyay
25-01-08, 16:15
I'm an atheist. :wve:

TheStoryteller
12-03-08, 21:49
Agnostic.

But I do belive that the laws of physics not only apply to raw energy but also to deeds. anything evil or good I do will come back one way or the other, sooner or later....

Levlan
12-03-08, 22:12
I see that Buddhism is on the poll. And see that many people consider it a, "religion," though technically, it is not a religion. Feel free to disagree. Research it yourself, and you won't.

ECB
13-03-08, 00:03
Catholic

Eddie Haskell
13-03-08, 00:11
I am Roman Catholic.

Natey168
13-03-08, 00:50
I'm not really religious (don't tell anyone, though:p). My family, or, at least, most of my family is Catholic.

Tyrael DeMagis
13-03-08, 12:10
I'm a peaceful, furry animal-loving, left-handed Satanist (as well as happily and monogamously married to someone just like me!). Trust me, Satanism is NOT about devil worship.

Anthony-German
13-03-08, 12:14
I am christian (catholic) :)

john_york
13-03-08, 12:37
Atheist.

As a biologist, I have a hard time reconciling scientific evidence with religious dogma. David Attenborough summed up my view perfectly when asked about his views on creationism and God during an interview with Simon Mayo:

My response is that when Creationists talk about God creating every individual species as a separate act, they always instance hummingbirds, or orchids, sunflowers and beautiful things. But I tend to think instead of a parasitic worm that is boring through the eye of a boy sitting on the bank of a river in West Africa, [a worm] that's going to make him blind. And [I ask them], 'Are you telling me that the God you believe in, who you also say is an all-merciful God, who cares for each one of us individually, are you saying that God created this worm that can live in no other way than in an innocent child's eyeball? Because that doesn't seem to me to coincide with a God who's full of mercy.

It's not that I don't believe in any deities at all off-hand, rather I see no evidence of 'Gods' and certainly no reason for them. When I think of all the trouble in the world that occurs in the name of religion or 'God' I can't help but thinking what, exactly, is the point? Is something with no evidence really worth causing so much death? I just don't think that organised religion as we know it has much of a place in the modern world, and will become even less relevant as we progress.

Sorry if anything I've said offends anyone. I'm not a big anti-religious nutcase and believe people are entitled to their own views/ beliefs. Just don't go in for that kind of thing myself.

KC Mraz
13-03-08, 13:34
No one (maybe it's something but I don't know it's name).

I think there's something (not someone) "bigger" than us but it's unknown to the humans and it will remain like that until the end of the humanity :).

Fraaadrik
13-03-08, 14:06
Nvm.

touchthesky
13-03-08, 14:08
I am agnostic but i hang on a cross
Faithless saintless my sin stabs
I wear the crown of oblivion
Rule and aching void watch my sun burn out


:)!

Reggie
13-03-08, 14:27
I am agnostic but i hang on a cross
Faithless saintless my sin stabs
I wear the crown of oblivion
Rule and aching void watch my sun burn out


:)!
^What's that supposed to mean?

touchthesky
13-03-08, 14:32
^What's that supposed to mean?

I am agnostic

I was trying to be creative. lol.

Not that it was in the slightest.

(Lyrics)

Reggie
13-03-08, 14:34
Ohh it sounded like a very negative slant on agnosticism. I was wondering if you were against or something like that. Being creative is good though so don't put yourself down. :)

touchthesky
13-03-08, 14:35
No no.

Theyre not my lyrics, either.

So I wasn't being all that creative.

=|

Reggie
13-03-08, 14:38
Ahh I see - who wrote those lyrics?

touchthesky
13-03-08, 14:40
The Distillers.

:).

It's the first thing that comes to mind whenever anybody mentions religion

Reggie
13-03-08, 14:44
Cool! well I'll check out their song when I get home.
Quick question: Do you intend to remain as an agnostic or are you waiting to find out about various religions and then see if you feel positive about one or more of them and go with that/conclude there is no God?

touchthesky
13-03-08, 14:48
If something grips me, I will read up on it, and if I feel that it is what I believe happened to the world, then yes, I will change my views. :) But for now, I'm happy this way.

ALTHOUGH, the hindu religion has always really enthralled me, I don't believe in it.

danitiwa
13-03-08, 14:59
Non-Religious. :wve:

Nenya awakens
13-03-08, 16:27
i've studied crystal healing, meditation, Tarot cards and Runes for the last two years, i've worked with a healer aswell and she healed my tattoos.
so i guess im more spiritual. i dont believe in an ultimate god, the power of the earth comes from the earth, the trees, the flowers, everything contributes to the earth growing and developing, it's a comferting thought that when you die your soul goes back into the earth the nourish it, the same as your body does when your buried..

thats my opinion anyway :)

Chocolate
13-03-08, 16:42
Buddhist here.

ClareT
13-03-08, 17:05
Atheist :] Most days I'm still open minded however. If someone provided sufficient evidence for there actually being a higher power, then I'd be willing to change my mind. But to be honest, if there is some sort of supreme being - damning me to hell just for not believing but being a "good" person other than that is sickening. Though I prefer to link myself to pastafarianism, just to prove a point.

spikejones
13-03-08, 17:18
Born and raised Methodist still go to church sometimes. However I try to live a spiritual life by following the 12 steps.

OldFart
13-03-08, 17:27
NON-Believer

I can't believe in a supposed "Supernatural All-Powerful Entity" who over
that last 2,00-plus years has done absolutely nothing, despite
have infinite chances over these years while MILLIONS have been
killed in "Religious" wars, Millions more in natural disasters from 30-foot
Tsunami to planes flying into skyscrapers, who (supposedly) tried to
FLOOD THE WORLD and KILL everyone except Noah, (Osama bin god) ???,
and who (again supposedly), says I will "Burn In Hell Forever" if you
DONT believe in him ? ? ?:(

Is that a "Kind, Caring" type of 'god' ... and to the religious
apologists who trot out the standard phrases when these questions
are asked ..... if these things ARE "gods will", then do you
really want to go out one day a week, sing the same, old, strange-lyric,
songs to this guy ?!? :(

If one person believes in the impossible it's called Insanity ...
If many people believe in the impossible it's called 'religion' ...

SON : "Mummy, what is 'god'"
MUM : "Well son, you know when you pray really really hard
'cos you want something to happen ? ? ? ..."
SON : "Yes... Mum ? ? ?..."
MUM : "Well son, 'god' is the guy who ignores you...."

.... shall I shut up now ?!? :)

The_Terminator
13-03-08, 17:30
the power of the earth comes from the earth, the trees, the flowers, everything contributes to the earth growing and developingThose are called mitichlorians, my young padawan. ;)

Gianni Bartoli
13-03-08, 17:33
I'm a Satanist (other).

Christi
13-03-08, 17:45
Christian, but never go to church. I don't know what you call that lol. (satanist?^)

katmandoo
13-03-08, 17:50
I'm Christian-Baptist :)

nickp364
13-03-08, 18:27
Roman Catholic

Gianni Bartoli
13-03-08, 19:23
(satanist?^)

:wve:

Alexandritee
13-03-08, 19:31
Legally christian, though I dont act like one, go to church etc.

Veronica Ma
14-03-08, 07:35
I see that Buddhism is on the poll. And see that many people consider it a, "religion," though technically, it is not a religion. Exactly. :)

H4RR7H
14-03-08, 07:42
I am not religious. I don't see an option for that! ;)

Also: just to point it out:
- Buddhism is technically not a religion &
- Atheism is not the same as Aganostism! (well, I mean the noun of 'aganostic' if 'aganostism' isn't a word lol)

OMG get it right if you are going to make a thread!

Autolycus
14-03-08, 07:48
Chistian i suppose.

Fish.
14-03-08, 11:22
Catholic. :)

Eain
14-03-08, 11:28
Used to be a strict Atheist until one day I started to realise that that's too narrow of a world view, just as (IMO) adhering to one particular branch of organised religion is.

I've started to come to terms with the fact that we are really in no position (yet) to form any sort of definitive faith or theory on what put us here and why, and who/what is the origin of all things. Perhaps one day the answer will present itself, and perhaps it may not, but the universe is too large and too difficult for us to figure this out on our own with our own limited perspectives. I do appreciate the fact that people -try-, however.

So do I believe in any of the theories presented by humanity? No, definitely not. (Do I find them fascinating however? Yes, and I love studying any religion). Do I believe that there might perhaps be something that started it all, of which we have absolutely no idea or concept? Yes, I do.

Neteru
14-03-08, 20:24
I am not religious. I don't see an option for that! ;)

Also: just to point it out:
- Buddhism is technically not a religion &
- Atheism is not the same as Aganostism! (well, I mean the noun of 'aganostic' if 'aganostism' isn't a word lol)

OMG get it right if you are going to make a thread!OMG Buddhism is a religion.
OMG Learn to spell if you're going to make a post.
OMG Chillout.

TRexbait
14-03-08, 20:34
Catholic

Lafa Cvoft
14-03-08, 20:37
Crestain....but i don't as a monarch....i don't like it(((

Eddie Haskell
14-03-08, 20:40
If church services were more like this one than membership would go way up. This is a scene from David Byrne's movie True Stories. The song in it is brilliant. Great preacher, with a great anti-capitalist message. :)

RinF8BiDNaU

It's a fun movie with some great Talking Heads music in it.

TheStoryteller
14-03-08, 20:59
^^^ love that song (+whole album +whole movie)

but I'd even more welcome a service like the one with James Brown from the original Blues Brothers movie

"Did you see the light????" :D

Erussack
20-03-08, 22:24
Catholic counts as cristian, right?

Mad Tony
20-03-08, 22:29
Catholic counts as cristian, right?Of course. Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Orthodox etc. They're all branches of Christianity. :)

Anubis_AF
20-03-08, 22:34
An atheist here.

Erussack
20-03-08, 22:35
Of course. Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Orthodox etc. They're all branches of Christianity. :)

My mom never introduced my to this stuff, thank you.:hug:

Tidus
20-03-08, 22:38
I'm a Christian with a touch of of Paganism...and I think the earth-centered religions of the Native Americans were on to something.

Mad Tony
20-03-08, 22:39
My mom never introduced my to this stuff, thank you.:hug:No problem. :)

ANoDE
20-03-08, 22:40
I consider myself a christian, even though I do not go to church very often.
I don't even agree with many of the church's views (for example sex, position of women in the church and so on), BUT since I make a difference between the christian church and the christian religion that's okay for me.

Nikola
07-04-08, 20:21
Love is my religion :D

digitizedboy
07-04-08, 20:38
I don't really have a religion, religion sucks and it causes to many pain to people.
Why fight over your beliefs when it's not going to make the cause any better. We could argue for eternity about who's wrong and who's right, Jesus isn't the son of God... etc.. etc.. Gets on my nerves really.

I think people should believe in what they should believe, but NEVER shove it down other peoples throats, that is wrong.

Ilves
07-04-08, 20:47
Baptised & confirmed* into the Lutheran church, but secretly attending Russian Orthodox church... (Don't tell 'em though, as I want to get married in the finnish Lutheran Church) http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9485/faceshhhzk2.gif

*)that thing you do when you're 16 and go through extensive sunday school and then communion?

Draco
07-04-08, 21:12
I can't answer the poll without lying.

Atheism is not a religion...and everyone on Earth is Agnostic.

Xico15
07-04-08, 21:16
chatolic christian here

silver_wolf
07-04-08, 23:16
I don't really have a religion, religion sucks and it causes to many pain to people.
Why fight over your beliefs when it's not going to make the cause any better. We could argue for eternity about who's wrong and who's right, Jesus isn't the son of God... etc.. etc.. Gets on my nerves really.

I think people should believe in what they should believe, but NEVER shove it down other peoples throats, that is wrong.
I agree, but unfortunately the religious leaders didn't get the memo.

Tyrannosaurus
08-04-08, 00:12
Dinosaurs were the natural rulers of this planet and gladly ate all who were beneath them, and all were beneath me. I am Tyrannosaurus rex. Therefore, it is pointless to ask if I "have a religion". You don't ask gods what their religious beliefs are. They do not "believe". They know.

When I return, and return I shall, retribution will be mine. No longer shalt the Earth be held under the rule of the Mammalia. Their dictator, the clever and brutal naked ape who has fatuously labled himself as "wise", his Archosaurian betters as "terrible" and myself, their last king, as a "tyrant" shall be the first to fall. Cycads from the Jurassic and flowering angiosperms from the Cretaceous wilt burgeon where the cities of the naked ape once stood. The Dinosauria shall crush the human plague!

I seek worshippers. I am an older deity than any of you know. Despair not at this vulgar necrolatry; it is in thy nature to worship dinosaurs, as children do instinctively. Know that you will be spared from my wrath upon my second coming. All others shall suffer the eternal damnation of not being fossilized. Do not be militant. Instead, spread the word. Should you find the world hates you, only bear in mind that it hated me before you. The Mammalia have always envied The Dinosauria for their greatness, yet never have they erected an empire as powerful as mine.

Hairhelmet12
08-04-08, 01:00
Sorry no big guy up in the sky beleaf for me

LaraLuvrrr
08-04-08, 02:28
I dunno how to define my "religion" because I have a variety of spiritual beliefs but no specific practice or bible I follow.... So I guess I'm spiritual?

Neteru
08-04-08, 03:07
I can't answer the poll without lying.

Atheism is not a religion...and everyone on Earth is Agnostic.I'm sure I've said this to you before Draco. Any belief system is a religion.

Tyrannosaurus
08-04-08, 03:10
Atheism is a religion in the sense that bald is a hair color. It is no more specific than theism. But, of course, it is an appropriate category to have if your beliefs fall within that spectrum.

Draco
08-04-08, 05:54
I'm sure I've said this to you before Draco. Any belief system is a religion.

It's not a belief system...it's lack of belief.

Margot*Croft
08-04-08, 06:00
No religion. I'm an atheist, not an agnostic; there is quite a big difference among those 2 categories. But I won't consider atheism as a "lack of beliefs", as there are many things I do believe in; I don't just draw them from religion, but from other ethic values ;)

Neteru
08-04-08, 06:20
It's not a belief system...it's lack of belief.Atheism is an express disbelief or denial in the existence of god. That is, a belief in opposition to theism.

Lara Coft Baby
08-04-08, 06:22
I am Christian :p

Draco
08-04-08, 06:24
Atheism is an express disbelief or denial in the existence of god. That is, a belief in opposition to theism.

Uh, no. You can call my lack of belief in any god a religion, but that does not make it so. I have no faith in it, because I don't need faith in it for it to be true for me.

Neteru
08-04-08, 06:35
Uh, no. You can call my lack of belief in any god a religion, but that does not make it so. I have no faith in it, because I don't need faith in it for it to be true for me.If one is to presume that faith in this instance means belief without proof. But proof is such a subjective matter. "Proof" of anything is only opinion. Even scientific proofs change. Nonetheless, even faith (in the sense of 'having confidence in') that scientific proofs are truth is still a religion. It is a belief, a general acceptance of truth, fact or proof according to whatever parameters the believer wishes to impose.

The fact that neither of us believe in a god does not at all negate the fact that we both have a belief system, and are therefor both religious.

Cochrane
08-04-08, 08:29
If one is to presume that faith in this instance means belief without proof. But proof is such a subjective matter. "Proof" of anything is only opinion. Even scientific proofs change. Nonetheless, even faith (in the sense of 'having confidence in') that scientific proofs are truth is still a religion. It is a belief, a general acceptance of truth, fact or proof according to whatever parameters the believer wishes to impose.

The fact that neither of us believe in a god does not at all negate the fact that we both have a belief system, and are therefor both religious.

Religion usually has a supernatural component, and is based around core sets of accepted facts and moral values. It also has a cultural aspect. While atheists have such accepted facts and moral values, they are not based in being atheist. The same can be said for the cultural aspect. So I think that saying that atheism is a religion is stretching the definition of both a lot.

Draco
08-04-08, 08:47
If one is to presume that faith in this instance means belief without proof. But proof is such a subjective matter. "Proof" of anything is only opinion. Even scientific proofs change. Nonetheless, even faith (in the sense of 'having confidence in') that scientific proofs are truth is still a religion. It is a belief, a general acceptance of truth, fact or proof according to whatever parameters the believer wishes to impose.

The fact that neither of us believe in a god does not at all negate the fact that we both have a belief system, and are therefor both religious.

You are confusing two very different things: religion and belief

They are not mutually inclusive.

And calling me religious would be insulting if I let it. I have my beliefs yes, but none of them involve religion or belief in any diety.

I lack the belief in a god just like I don't believe there is a tooth fairy. Saying I believe the tooth fairy does not exist implies there is evidence of one existing yet I choose to believe it doesnt. Does the tooth fairy exist, probably not. Does god exist, probably not. It it not a belief.

kryptonite23
08-04-08, 08:49
Does Atheists hate God??

Draco
08-04-08, 08:52
No religion. I'm an atheist, not an agnostic; there is quite a big difference among those 2 categories. But I won't consider atheism as a "lack of beliefs", as there are many things I do believe in; I don't just draw them from religion, but from other ethic values ;)

At the literal definition of agnostic, you are, just like everyone else, atheist or not. Nobody can know for sure either way and we may never.

But, you can of course have the conviction that there is no god, just like people have faith there is one.

Draco
08-04-08, 08:54
Does Atheists hate God??

How can I hate something I don't believe exists?

andromeda_eats
08-04-08, 09:14
as long as you are spiritual, its all the same thing. im a roman catholic :)

Cochrane
08-04-08, 09:18
as long as you are spiritual, its all the same thing. im a roman catholic :)

Why the need to be spiritual? I've never been spiritual, and still never had the feeling that I missed out on anything.

Does Atheists hate God??

Do you hate Darth Vader? It's pretty well impossible to hate something that isn't (at least in my opinion) real.

andromeda_eats
08-04-08, 09:23
you have to believe in the spirit, even if you believe it dies when a human body does. forget religion, being spiritual just means you believe that something else, anything else, exists beyond the material. you must believe in something outside the material, i have never met anyone who doesn't. i think hope and love is the essence of spirituality.

Capt. Murphy
08-04-08, 09:29
Can any Atheist prove God doesn't exist? No.
That is an absolute statement. For them to know 100% that God doesn't exist - they would have to be (a) God themselves. Now, you could say that is a paradox... But I'm going to say that an Atheist (in his or her right mind) wouldn't say they were God. For they have no power over things such as an all mighty, ever present, and all knowing being would have.

Would they then say they might be Agnostic?... after admitting they would have no way to disprove God's existence? They would have to wonder if God was real, and/or try to figure it out for themselves to make sure one way or the other.

Geck-o-Lizard
08-04-08, 09:39
It's impossible to completely disprove anything at all, much less creations that can't be sensed or measured. Can you prove that there isn't an undetectable and unmeasurable unicorn sitting on the floor beside you? You can't, but all your logic tells you there isn't one, so you're not going to believe in it or accept that it might exist just because you can't disprove it.

Andromeda - I disagree. I don't believe in spirits, and I'm absolutely not a spiritual or supernatural person. I believe our consciousness is a result of extremely complex chemical reactions in an organ that we've spent the past two billion years developing, and the only thing I believe is out there beyond our world is more space dust.

Margot*Croft
08-04-08, 09:45
;)At the literal definition of agnostic, you are, just like everyone else, atheist or not. Nobody can know for sure either way and we may never.


Well, you're right; I get what you mean :tmb:... What I tried to say was that, provided that no one can tell whether God exists or not, I am convinced that he does not, while, on the contratry, other people don't think so ... that makes me an atheist, rather than agnostic ;)

@kriptonite23: I do not think an atheist can hate God; as other people said, how can you hate something you don't believe in? On the contrary, I've experienced how faith can truly help other people through difficult times;)

@Capt. Murphy: I think that an atheist does not believe in God because it has not been proved that he exists ;) I'm probably too rational, but I think that the one who claims something's existence should prove it, not the contrary

Cochrane
08-04-08, 09:50
Captain Murphy: I'd say the main difference between an atheist (like me) and an agnostic is that for an atheist, there is so little indicating that there may be one or more gods, that it's not worth bothering to look for any.

andromeda_eats: Basically what Geck-O-Lizard said. Small things form greater things all the time without the need for any supernatural spirit.

Devilian
08-04-08, 09:55
I am ocultist :cln:

Capt. Murphy
08-04-08, 10:02
It's impossible to completely disprove anything at all, much less creations that can't be sensed or measured.
But there are many Christians that would say they can feel God, or his Spirit. This is, of course, subjective... you could even call it relative... or Emotion in something intangible. By relative I mean... One person may be able to say with absolute conviction (as per your example) "There! I see the Unicorn!" While someone else doesn't. That doesn't mean the Unicorn doesn't exist. The other person just hasn't found it for themself yet.

That's where belief... maybe even faith comes in. A scientist would have faith in Scientific laws. He tests theories and gets a predictable outcome each and every time. If a Christian puts his faith in God, and God has answered their prayers, helped them in some way when they needed it, or when something happened that can only be explained as being (of) God (i.e "a Miracle")... They then can't help but to believe the things they do.

Draco
08-04-08, 10:13
Can any Atheist prove God doesn't exist? No.
That is an absolute statement. For them to know 100% that God doesn't exist - they would have to be (a) God themselves. Now, you could say that is a paradox... But I'm going to say that an Atheist (in his or her right mind) wouldn't say they were God. For they have no power over things such as an all mighty, ever present, and all knowing being would have.

Would they then say they might be Agnostic?... after admitting they would have no way to disprove God's existence? They would have to wonder if God was real, and/or try to figure it out for themselves to make sure one way or the other.

If I claim that Bigfoot is real and you don't believe Bigfoot is real, which of us carries the burden of proof?

It isn't the atheist.

Draco
08-04-08, 10:21
But there are many Christians that would say they can feel God, or his Spirit. This is, of course, subjective... you could even call it relative... or Emotion in something intangible. By relative I mean... One person may be able to say with absolute conviction (as per your example) "There! I see the Unicorn!" While someone else doesn't. That doesn't mean the Unicorn doesn't exist. The other person just hasn't found it for themself yet.

The problem with this is that for it to be true you have to accept that your almighty isn't almighty at all. Every believer I have ever spoken to believes that their god is absolute, which means it has to be universal according to the beliefs. Do you accept the possibility that your god isn't real?

That's where belief... maybe even faith comes in. A scientist would have faith in Scientific laws. He tests theories and gets a predictable outcome each and every time. If a Christian puts his faith in God, and God has answered their prayers, helped them in some way when they needed it, or when something happened that can only be explained as being (of) God (i.e "a Miracle")... They then can't help but to believe the things they do.

There is no such thing as a miracle.

Tombraine
08-04-08, 10:42
My family is Catholic Christian and so I was raised in that. After actually growing up and learning things other than one belief system, I guess I could be labeled "Agnostic". I don't really partake in any one religion. Although, I find at times I do agree(and disagree) with certain small aspects of many different religions. So I really have no idea where that puts me. I find myself questioning the actual existence of God(s) more and more lately.

Capt. Murphy
08-04-08, 10:52
If I claim that Bigfoot is real and you don't believe Bigfoot is real, which of us carries the burden of proof?

It isn't the atheist.
Yes. It must be so easy being an Atheist. Or Lazy -one. :mis:

If I tell a person they can ride a bike and they don't believe they can... They think it is impossible, but I say that it's something they have to do on their own if they want to be able to do it... That is up to them.

How can you know God if you've never truly tried to know him?

The problem with this is that for it to be true you have to accept that your almighty isn't almighty at all. Every believer I have ever spoken to believes that their god is absolute, which means it has to be universal according to the beliefs. Do you accept the possibility that your god isn't real?
I don't understand how that would make Him -not- almighty. And when you say "believer" do you mean those that believe in the Christian/Jewish God? Or those that believe in Allah or Buddha also? i.e. Any God..?

God can be almighty and still allow people to have free-will (or) the freedom of choice whether to believe in Him or not.

IMO There is no such thing as a miracle.

There, fixed. :p

Draco
08-04-08, 11:17
Yes. It must be so easy being an Atheist. Or Lazy -one. :mis:

Actually it isn't easy. If my family knew, I would probably have to defend myself from their god.

If I tell a person they can ride a bike and they don't believe they can... They think it is impossible, but I say that it's something they have to do on their own if they want to be able to do it... That is up to them.

The problem here is that god isn't a Schwin, which incidently does exist.

How can you know God if you've never truly tried to know him?

Let me guess, you think my lack of belief is because of my childhood. I wasn't indoctrinated if that is what you mean. But I was punching holes in my religion before I had two digits on my birthday cake.

I don't understand how that would make Him -not- almighty. And when you say "believer" do you mean those that believe in the Christian/Jewish God? Or those that believe in Allah or Buddha also? i.e. Any God..?

To an atheist all gods are the same...so why would I bother with a distinction?

God can be almighty and still allow people to have free-will (or) the freedom of choice whether to believe in Him or not.

Actually that is a paradox.

There, fixed. :p

In your opinion perhaps.

Laurencarter
08-04-08, 11:22
Christian

Margot*Croft
08-04-08, 11:27
Yes. It must be so easy being an Atheist. Or Lazy -one. :mis:


I think it's easier to blame someone else (i.e. God himself) for what goes on around you, rather than yourself; what I mean is: I've been raised in private, catholic schools all during my life, and I've seen both faithful believers (whom I hold in high regard) and the so called "Sunday - Christians". I've been told this expression refers to people who don't actually believe in God, but go to Church every week in order to look good in front of others. I deeply respect people whose beliefs are different from mine, so long as they actually stick to what they preach; so, I think it's easier to think of religion as a "status - symbol", not respecting its rules in everyday - life (as Sunday - Christians do), rather than being an atheist. As I said before, I believe in very important values that were taught to me (I have to thank my parents in the first place), and I try to respect them just like any faithful believer would respect his/her religion’s precepts. If you call that easy ...

Cochrane
08-04-08, 11:31
If I tell a person they can ride a bike and they don't believe they can... They think it is impossible, but I say that it's something they have to do on their own if they want to be able to do it... That is up to them.
Riding a bike is obvious. You see it every day. Gods are nowhere near as obvious.

How can you know God if you've never truly tried to know him?
If you truly tried to know any god, are you still a neutral observer? I think not. As an alternative, say I truly wanted to see aliens. Isn't it likely that I'd be more likely to say that events indicate the existence of aliens than normally?

Muhammad
08-04-08, 11:42
Sunnah Muslim

it was given to me at birth and I'm proud of it

too bad I sometimes drink and rarly pray :(

Atlantisfreak666
08-04-08, 14:50
Atheist.

Death Mask
13-04-08, 19:42
S A T A N I S T :whi:

TombRaiderLover
13-04-08, 19:50
Don't have a religion

EDIT: Oops, didn't ses atheism. *slaps forehead*

xoger
14-04-08, 15:02
i don't like the idea that not believing in a god should be a religion

Sweets
14-04-08, 15:03
^ Yeah I never thought Atheism was a religion either?

Nannonxyay
14-04-08, 15:19
^ Yeah I never thought Atheism was a religion either?

I guess what it's really asking is: "What do you believe in?" I dunno.

tomblover
14-04-08, 15:19
Atheist to the roots of my heart. Don't believe in fairy tales a single bit. :) (Even if I wish some were true. Not this one in any case.)

AODdigger
14-04-08, 15:39
Wow. Not a milligram of offense, but so many atheists... Not that it's bad, though :) Religion is just a formality. It doesn't matter who you cling to ... Or don't cling to :p

PS I'm Christianic, Orthdox. Which is practically atheistic :p I've been to church.. Umm... 5 times my life.

domina
14-04-08, 16:39
Agnostic with very slight Christian tendencies. And some Taoist influences.

Cochrane
14-04-08, 17:40
^ Yeah I never thought Atheism was a religion either?

Look two or three pages back... You may notice that the same question has already been discussed several times here :D

Muhammad
08-08-08, 14:41
Bumped for new members.

]{eith
08-08-08, 14:43
I am a....'Fallen Catholic'. Now Agnostic.

Endow
08-08-08, 14:47
Agnostic I'd say. Not gonna vote though because I'm definitely not an Atheist. If I can't prove it, I can't accept it nor can I deny it.

Wolf Angel
08-08-08, 14:49
I'm a christian :-)

Suzan
08-08-08, 14:49
Suz here is agnostic :wve: No belief in any god or gods or whatsoever, but I don't deny the possibility of their existence either.

toxicraider
08-08-08, 14:53
Wow. Not a milligram of offense, but so many atheists... Not that it's bad, though :) Religion is just a formality. It doesn't matter who you cling to ... Or don't cling to :p



Hmm remember the option for atheist is attached to agnostic so that may be why it's so popular.

I believe in christianity but I do not go to church.

Naomichi
08-08-08, 14:55
I consider myself an occasionally lapsing athiest.

TombRaiderCool
08-08-08, 15:01
I go to a Catholic school however all my life I have been a Atheist/Agnostic but now I am mabye considering becoming Buddhist. :)

spikejones
08-08-08, 15:44
wow.. i thought this was a new thread at first.. LOl. digging in the graveyard much?:p

TR93
08-08-08, 15:45
I'm a christian,
Well I am but I don't go to church:o

viper456
08-08-08, 15:45
I clicked other as I don't really have a religious view. Its not a case of believing or not believing, I just don't have a view.

EDIT: eeep. Just saw the date on the first post haha. Guess I didn't vote the first time round.

toxicraider
08-08-08, 15:48
I'm a christian,
Well I am but I don't go to church:o

same :)

Andromeda66
08-08-08, 16:25
Religious atheist. Though my parents are Hindu.

:wve:

Encore
08-08-08, 16:29
Huh I kinda prefered not to vote because my views are a bit more complicated, I believe in some form of "God" (meaning I'm not completely atheist or agnostic), but I don't endorse any particular religion.

peeves
08-08-08, 16:29
I'n' got no religion. I'm an atheist. :mis: Otherwise i'd be a christian.

Mr.Burns
08-08-08, 16:31
Bumped for new members.

Um, no.