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PARANOIA
06-02-08, 02:00
Do you support it?

As a Libertarian, I do. Not because it's fun, but because people should have the ability and the breadth to make responsible decisions, and to pay through the nose for their irresponsible ones. More profit for the casinos and the businesses to benefit from the foolish arithmetic dropouts. Besides which, making gambling illegal tends to result in illegal gambling operations, which results in, and is a result, of a high crime rate.

What's your opinion?

Melonie Tomb Raider
06-02-08, 02:02
Lots of people support it.

http://www.guelphmercury.com/graphics/entertainment/dining/352368-83399.jpg

nick-xx
06-02-08, 02:17
i actually do, because there is one country (not really a country) i have been in :), they depends totally with gambling, and its how amazing this country is getting richer and richer, and everyone like to work in there.

Beside they earn a really good salary, that "country" don't have taxes. It's all from the casinos in there, and just recently they have build another casino, and the world largest one if im not wrong. adding every casino in there they have in total aprox 27 casinos.

Quasimodo
06-02-08, 02:17
I'm not so sure about making gambling legal. Sure, people should be free to make their own choices about whether or not to gamble. Like smoking and drinking, it's a habit that can get out of hand and be harmful to the individual as well as their family. Legalizing gambling could well bring down illegal gambling operations. I doubt it'll happen anytime soon because a lot of people still view gambling as a little iffy morally, if not downright evil.

Similarly, Paranoia, what do you think about legalized prostitution?

Melonie Tomb Raider
06-02-08, 02:24
Similarly, Paranoia, what do you think about legalized prostitution?

I'm not Paranoia, but I will leave my input on it.

I honestly don't think it's possible for me to be even more against it than I already am... just... no.

xMiSsCrOfTx
06-02-08, 02:28
Prostitution and gambling are two completely diffrerent things... But I think people should have the option to gamble if they choose to. Like Paranoia said, people should have the opportunity to make responsible decisions and be rewarded on occasion, then suffer the consequences when they make poor ones.

Melonie Tomb Raider
06-02-08, 02:42
Prostitution and gambling are two completely diffrerent things... But I think people should have the option to gamble if they choose to. Like Paranoia said, people should have the opportunity to make responsible decisions and be rewarded on occasion, then suffer the consequences when they make poor ones.

I agree. :tmb:

Admles
06-02-08, 02:54
It's legal here, so I don't know what it would be like to be in places where it wasn't, so yes I support it.

USP
06-02-08, 03:16
Do you support it?

As a Libertarian, I do.
Hello, brethren.

DREWY
06-02-08, 03:17
I don't really. I have a license to work at a pokie venue. I don't do that work anymore because it's too depressing seeing the people who can afford it least losing the most. You can tell it's their shopping money or bill payment that they are feeding through the machine. The lure of winning back the losses compounds itself.
"its their own choice" I can hear people saying (who have oviously never experianced this) . Well yes its is. But some people need saving from them self. Some are just too weak minded to walk away. The only people who really make money are the people at the end of the line the owners and the government. And you can be sure they don't gamble.
"they'll only go some where else- an illegal casino" Only a small percentage are in the loop as to where these are. The average joe on the street doesn't unless he already HAS a problem.
"it'll stop illegal casinos" Yes to a degree. But they had limited clientelle untill it was legalised and people knew what was out there

Remember, whatever you win is what someone else has already lost. There are always more losers than winners in gambling.

Admles
06-02-08, 03:33
One thing about gambling people should always remember to is that the Odds ALWAYS favour the house.

USP
06-02-08, 03:42
Who cares?
The government has no right to tell you what you can do with your private property.
If I wish to saw both my legs off, that's my right.
If I wish to gamble away my life savings, that's my right, too.
I certainly don't recommend either, but it is a matter of private property rights.

Ward Dragon
06-02-08, 03:54
If I wish to gamble away my life savings, that's my right, too.

And once you're broke and starving in the gutter, are you going to demand my tax dollars in the form of welfare or some other assistance program? If the answer is truly "no" and we are allowed to let people die for their foolish choices, then I don't mind stepping back and letting them do whatever they want. If I have to pay for other people's mistakes, however, then I want it strictly regulated.

On a side note, every time I see a commercial for the lotto, I want to punch the TV. "Hey, you never know..." is appealing to people who are truly addicted to gambling and cannot help but spend their grocery money on the chance that they might win big. The government is supposed to be helping these people, not taking advantage of them.

Anyhow, in direct answer to the main question in the thread, I think that gambling, drugs, prostitution, etc. should all be legal but very strictly regulated by the government in order to reduce crime and minimize disease.

Admles
06-02-08, 04:01
Anyhow, in direct answer to the main question in the thread, I think that gambling, drugs, prostitution, etc. should all be legal but very strictly regulated by the government in order to reduce crime and minimize disease.

I agree.

Prostitution is legal where I live, but its controlled by the Government - health requirements, only so many girls allowed to work at a time etc.

I also once went to a Casino where you have a limit on how much you could spend. They give you a sort of credit-card for the place that can be used in the gambling room, and you can put money on it, but the maximum limit is $500 or $100, can't quite remember, and money can only be put on it once every 24 hours or so. Apparently it worked well.

Ward Dragon
06-02-08, 04:05
I agree.

Prostitution is legal where I live, but its controlled by the Government - health requirements, only so many girls allowed to work at a time etc.

Right, that's what I was thinking of in terms of regulating it :)

I also once went to a Casino where you have a limit on how much you could spend. They give you a sort of credit-card for the place that can be used in the gambling room, and you can put money on it, but the maximum limit is $500 or $100, can't quite remember, and money can only be put on it once every 24 hours or so. Apparently it worked well.

I never really thought too much on how to regulate gambling, but that sounds like a good way to do it in order to ensure people don't ruin themselves financially :)

SamReeves
06-02-08, 04:38
Lots of people support it.

http://www.guelphmercury.com/graphics/entertainment/dining/352368-83399.jpg

LOL! :vlol:

I believe each state should be able to make their own decision whether they want it or not.

rowanlim
06-02-08, 07:05
I would support legalizing it. Even if you make it illegal, it's bound to be carried on ANYWAY, and they'd probably link in other "businesses" to the gambling. So legalize it so that you can control it. That's my opinion :p

Jacob x5
06-02-08, 07:13
It is legal where I live, and I think that's a good thing.

Cochrane
06-02-08, 07:44
It's one of the things where I'd basically say the same thing as Ward Dragon: Should be legal, but very strictly controlled.

It is a health danger for those playing it, and it seems easy to get addicted, so it will not work without very strict regulations. As an example, here in Germany one can blacklist himself from all gambling places. If a casino still lets you in despite this, you can sue them to get the money you lost back. The idea is obviously for people who got addicted.

On the other hand, it's ultimately everyone's choice what he does with his money, so I'm not for a complete ban. I'm not too certain whether illegal gambling would really fill the void if it was ever made illegal, but allowing it to be legal makes it easier to control all of it.

What I'd really support would be if you weren't allowed to play for real money, only chips you get at the entrance, with the places being financed by entry fees, drinks, snacks and stuff like that. I don't think it'll work, though.

Capt. Murphy
06-02-08, 15:28
Do you support it?

As a Libertarian, I do. Not because it's fun, but because people should have the ability and the breadth to make responsible decisions, and to pay through the nose for their irresponsible ones. More profit for the casinos and the businesses to benefit from the foolish arithmetic dropouts. Besides which, making gambling illegal tends to result in illegal gambling operations, which results in, and is a result, of a high crime rate.

What's your opinion?
I'm all for the idea of idiots being taken advantage of. Like that ol' saying goes: A fool and his money are soon parted.

But actually, if there were any 'casinos' going to open up near my area - I'd be against it. They could bring more business to the area... But what kind of business? More bars? More stip clubs? Or, actually, the kind of human scum that partakes in those seedy activities? Seriously. No! If the local trailor park trash is throwing their money away at the casino, they're going to then need to sell their bodies for money. That would mean an outbreak of stds, more illigitimate children to wiegh down the economy due to the burden of tax dollars being rerouted towards welfare/food stamps. Later in the years: overcrowded schools, run down property values from the homeless that lost their life savings at the ever so popular casino -that they needed so badly...

It's *true. And how can that be a good thing?

*=possible

MiCkiZ88
06-02-08, 15:40
It's legal here, so yeh, I support it. Some people are pretty addicted to it though.. but there seems to be a club for those players who want to get rid of their gambling habits.

Mona Sax
06-02-08, 15:42
I think it should be legal, but with very strict controls. Nobody should risk losing money they don't have, and often it's not just the gambler who's affected, but also an entire family. Therefore, Casinos should have to run extensive background checks and have strict limits.

Prostitution should be legal, pimping not. Let's face it, it's not going to disappear, so at least let's make it safe for the women. As long as it's illegal, you simply reward criminals for exploiting other people's misery. And why criminalize the few women who want to do it?

USP
06-02-08, 21:32
And once you're broke and starving in the gutter, are you going to demand my tax dollars in the form of welfare or some other assistance program? If the answer is truly "no" and we are allowed to let people die for their foolish choices, then I don't mind stepping back and letting them do whatever they want. If I have to pay for other people's mistakes, however, then I want it strictly regulated.

On a side note, every time I see a commercial for the lotto, I want to punch the TV. "Hey, you never know..." is appealing to people who are truly addicted to gambling and cannot help but spend their grocery money on the chance that they might win big. The government is supposed to be helping these people, not taking advantage of them.

Anyhow, in direct answer to the main question in the thread, I think that gambling, drugs, prostitution, etc. should all be legal but very strictly regulated by the government in order to reduce crime and minimize disease.

Of course I wouldn't. I'm in favor of getting rid of the welfare state entirely.