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Colin125
25-08-03, 17:52
I'm getting a laptop and because it's my first I have a couple of questions.

1) I'm getting anti-virus software but don't know which one to choose. I was thinking about getting Norton's Anti-Virus 2003 but is this the best you can get?

2) The laptop I'm getting is going to have Windows XP but I don't know which one to get, Home or Professional. I heard that Professional is exactly the same as Home but with a few added features.

3) Does Windows XP Home or Professional come with the office suite?

4) What's the best memory, graphics and video card I can get on a laptop?

5) I'm getting a mouse for the laptop but which is the best?

Well that's all the question I need to know. Sorry if some sound stupid it's just because when it comes to computers I'm an amateur. http://smilies.crowd9.com/otn/funny/dark1.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/bash.gif

AndrewII
25-08-03, 19:20
Originally posted by Colin125:
I'm getting a laptop and because it's my first I have a couple of questions.

1) I'm getting anti-virus software but don't know which one to choose. I was thinking about getting Norton's Anti-Virus 2003 but is this the best you can get?

I would highly recommend Mcafee.

2) The laptop I'm getting is going to have Windows XP but I don't know which one to get, Home or Professional. I heard that Professional is exactly the same as Home but with a few added features.

Window XP Professional seem to be better than the home edition since Professional have more features. Not only that,but unlike Home edition, Professional is SMP,meaning it can support up to 2 processors

3) Does Windows XP Home or Professional come with the office suite?
You'll probably get the Office suite,but not the entire thing. You'll need to buy the full version,and if your a student,you can get a discount.

4) What's the best memory, graphics and video card I can get on a laptop?
Laptop ship memory configurations these. Some would come with 512mb while other come with 1GB.

Regarding Video Cards,you can get with either a Geforce 4 440 Go or ATI mobile Radeon 5200 or Radeon 9600.

5) I'm getting a mouse for the laptop but which is the best?
I highly recommend a logitech Optical mouse.

Well that's all the question I need to know. Sorry if some sound stupid it's just because when it comes to computers I'm an amateur. http://smilies.crowd9.com/otn/funny/dark1.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/bash.gif [/QB]

justin
25-08-03, 19:22
I don't recommend logitech ;) the button ****s out...

Colin125
25-08-03, 19:27
I won't. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

laracroft8290
25-08-03, 21:02
Norton Antivirus is what I use. I've never had any problems out of it. Another alternative is McAfee.

Just get XP Home.

Does XP come with Office? My copy didn't, but it also depends on the place you order or buy your laptop from. Like for instance, if you buy from Dell you get a choice of Microsoft Works, Office, or Corel Word Perfect. So its your choice.

Laptops can come with up to 1GB of RAM. I've seen 80GB Hard Drives. For a video card I've seen a 64MB DDR NVIDIA® GeForce™ FX Go5200, and I've also seen a 64MB DDR ATI Mobility 9000. As far as processors go, the sky is the limit. Some manufacturers produce laptops with 3.06GHz Pentium 4s that you find in some desktops.

Get an optical mouse for sure (you never have to clean them ;) ) On the brand, I have a Microsoft Intellimouse, hasn't failed me yet.

Anymore questions?

Colin125
25-08-03, 21:39
Thanks for the valuable info laracroft8290, it's really helped me a lot. ;)

Just one quick question. Optical mouse, are they the cordless ones?

I think your right, I will get Windows XP Home because I just looked at the microsoft site and I can see no difference between Home and Professional only that Professional is mostly for business company's.

I rote a list on what I would want the laptop to have.

Windows XP Home with Microsoft XP office suite.
CD-RW/DVD Combo (also floppy drive)
Ram (I don't no how much GB's you can have for a laptop so I'll say about 60GB).
Processor (again I don't know what's the best processor you can get for a laptop).

Colin125
25-08-03, 21:50
Another quick question. Can I use a DSL modem with a laptop? Because I need this to connect to the internet. And how many USB ports are there in a laptop? Can you get more then 2 or do you have to buy some kind of plug in order to use multiple USB ports? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

laracroft8290
25-08-03, 22:04
An optical mouse, is a mouse with a light on the underside instead of the typical grey ball. A wireless mouse on the other hand is just that wireless. But there are mice that are optical and wireless, so its your choice.

As for DSL, most laptops now come with an ethernet which is the typical connection type for DSL Internet.

You can have up to 1GB of RAM, which is probably more than you'll ever need.

And all the other options you talk of can be done very easily, but you must be prepared to pay a large sum of money.

I priced one on Dell.com and it came to about $2500.00.

Pentium 4 3.06GHz
512MB RAM
60GB Hard Drive
24x CDRW/DVD Combo Drive
64MB DDR Nvidia Geforce FX Go5200
External Floppy
XP Home
Office XP Pro
Norton AntiVirus
External Optical Mouse
15" UXGA Display

laracroft8290
25-08-03, 22:06
Correction from above:

As for DSL, most laptops now come with an ethernet port which is the typical connection type for DSL Internet.

AndrewII
25-08-03, 22:23
Microsoft isn't going to post the benefits of its operating systems. Windows XP Professional of the two, is overall better than Home Edition simpily because there's more added functions to it than Home e.g. what your basically getting in Windows NT 5(2000),your getting in XP Professional,not Home. Its also why Microsof would be phasing out Windows XP Home later this year.

As for broadband eithernet ports, its something standard on all computers sold these days,even laptop notebook.

Draco
25-08-03, 22:44
Windows XPect Failure Home is a gutted version of Windows XPect Failure Professional, and they didn't do a real surgical job on it either...

USB ports should be plentiful on the more industrial laptops...

If money is no problem, go for an IBM Thinkpad...

If money is an issue, go with Dell or Gateway...

AndrewII
25-08-03, 23:11
^^^ or an Apple G4 Ti Book,but that would mean coming to the darkside... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

What Draco said true. I don't usually get by the brand,but Dell seem to build thier line of notebooks above standard.

laracroft8290
25-08-03, 23:20
XP is okay. I have both home & professional, and in all honesty the average user isn't going to notice that big of a difference.

For you other users who like an actual operating system (like me) Win2K is the best. (but then there is linux but that's for you more advanced users) Just ask anyone who's been in computers for awhile. I don't run on Win2K because both of my copies of xp are..umm...burnt ;) lol

What stinks is that ibm, gateway, and dell don't allow you to get win2k as an option on their notebooks, as they think winxp is the cure-all for computers. But it can be easily purchased for about $150.00.

And who said that XP Home is getting phased out?

laracroft8290
25-08-03, 23:22
Originally posted by AndrewII:
^^^ or an Apple G4 Ti Book,but that would mean coming to the darkside... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

What Draco said true. I don't usually get by the brand,but Dell seem to build thier line of notebooks above standard.No offense to anyone but:

I wouldn't buy an apple unless I was just wanting to throw my money away. As for that fastest personal computer on earth jargon on their website, that's very untrue.

laracroft8290
25-08-03, 23:34
On the apple thing...

This is what I'm talking about, Click Here (http://spl.haxial.com/apple-powermac-G5/)

AndrewII
25-08-03, 23:44
Originally posted by laracroft8290:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AndrewII:
^^^ or an Apple G4 Ti Book,but that would mean coming to the darkside... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

What Draco said true. I don't usually get by the brand,but Dell seem to build thier line of notebooks above standard.No offense to anyone but:

I wouldn't buy an apple unless I was just wanting to throw my money away. As for that fastest personal computer on earth jargon on their website, that's very untrue.</font>[/QUOTE]Actually, it very true. Here are some accurate benchmark:

G5/x86 benchmarks (http://www.applelust.com/oped/amc/archives/amc030718.shtml)

At their current rate, a single Pentium 4 Xeon is no match for a G5. Remember, Mhz don't mean nothing. Now I could understand a dual Xeon,but not a single Xeon.

swimfanc42tr
25-08-03, 23:59
RICH!!! I want a laptop... But they dont support gaming as well as PC... There is a new one coming out that supports games but its super heavy and mucho grande moola required!

John Falstaff
26-08-03, 00:22
:(

And I thought the forum's language was English.

:( :confused: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/bash.gif

Draco
26-08-03, 02:12
Originally posted by laracroft8290:
What stinks is that ibm, gateway, and dell don't allow you to get win2k as an option on their notebooks, as they think winxp is the cure-all for computers. But it can be easily purchased for about $150.00.Actually Dell has the M60 Workstation which is a laptop... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

http://catalog.us.dell.com/CS1/cs1page2.aspx?CS=04&kc=6W463&br=6&fm=10489

Draco
26-08-03, 02:14
Originally posted by AndrewII:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by laracroft8290:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AndrewII:
^^^ or an Apple G4 Ti Book,but that would mean coming to the darkside... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

What Draco said true. I don't usually get by the brand,but Dell seem to build thier line of notebooks above standard.No offense to anyone but:

I wouldn't buy an apple unless I was just wanting to throw my money away. As for that fastest personal computer on earth jargon on their website, that's very untrue.</font>[/QUOTE]Actually, it very true. Here are some accurate benchmark:

G5/x86 benchmarks (http://www.applelust.com/oped/amc/archives/amc030718.shtml)

At their current rate, a single Pentium 4 Xeon is no match for a G5. Remember, Mhz don't mean nothing. Now I could understand a dual Xeon,but not a single Xeon.</font>[/QUOTE]G5 is a 64-bit processor, P4 is 32-bit...

Colin125
26-08-03, 07:17
Thanks for all the info everyone. ;) Can I get an AMD Athon processor for the laptop?

Ok, I rote another list out on what I want for the laptop because I'm going to get it tomorrow. Feel free and edit it (money is no issue).

Windows XP Professtional with office XP suite.
Processor Type Intel P4
Processor speed 2500 mhz
Memory Size 1Gb mb
Memory Type DDR
Hard Drive Capacity 80 Gb
CD-RW/DVD-ROM Drive (combo)
Floppy Disk Drive
Screen Size/Type 16.1" TFT
Graphics Card Type nVidia GeForce FX Go5600
Graphics Memory 64 mb
TV-out Yes
Sound Type 16 bit
Modem Type 56Kb
Wireless Enabled Yes
No. of USB Connections 2
No. of Firewire Connections 1

Draco
26-08-03, 07:52
Originally posted by Colin125:
Screen Size/Type 16.1" TFT
Graphics Card Type nVidia GeForce FX Go5600TFT is easy since all current laptops use Active Matrix displays...

But the 16.1" will be difficult...

As for the Video Card, manufacturers are pretty brand oriented, so that will help some...

Draco
26-08-03, 07:52
I'll get right on it... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Colin125
26-08-03, 08:03
Thanks Draco but what do you mean by the 16.1" TFT screen will be difficult? Should I just get an 15" one? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Draco
26-08-03, 08:11
Originally posted by Colin125:
Thanks for all the info everyone. ;) Can I get an AMD Athon processor for the laptop?

Ok, I rote another list out on what I want for the laptop because I'm going to get it tomorrow. Feel free and edit it (money is no issue).

Windows XP Professtional with office XP suite.
Processor Type Intel P4
Processor speed 2500 mhz
Memory Size 1Gb mb
Memory Type DDR
Hard Drive Capacity 80 Gb
CD-RW/DVD-ROM Drive (combo)
Floppy Disk Drive
Screen Size/Type 16.1" TFT
Graphics Card Type nVidia GeForce FX Go5600
Graphics Memory 64 mb
TV-out Yes
Sound Type 16 bit
Modem Type 56Kb
Wireless Enabled Yes
No. of USB Connections 2
No. of Firewire Connections 1Dell Inspiron $3343 USD: (Varies with options)

Mobile Pentium4 2.5Ghz (2500 Mhz)
15.4" WSVGA+ Display
1 Gb DDR266 RAM
80Gb Ultra ATA Hard Drive
24x CDRW/DVD Combo Drive
Floppy Disk Drive
64Mb nVidia GeForce4 4200 Go AGP Graphics

Draco
26-08-03, 08:12
Originally posted by Colin125:
Thanks Draco but what do you mean by the 16.1" TFT screen will be difficult? Should I just get an 15" one? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Well there aren't currently many laptops made with a 16" display...15" is the current big size...

Colin125
26-08-03, 08:27
Thank you Draco. I know it's not advisable to play games on a laptop but what sort of things do I need to play PC games? I getting a Sony laptop (silver) but if the store doesn't have any Sony laptops what other manufacturer should I get? I know I don't want Apple. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

creativetwo
26-08-03, 13:10
I bought a Dell Inspiron 8500. I told the guy I wanted a gaming laptop and with his help we came up with the features and specs I wanted.
It's got a Pentium 4 processor, 2 GHz, 512MB Ram, 266MHz, 64MB DDR Nvidia GeForce 4 4200 Go AGP 4X Graphics, 60GB Hard Drive, Windows XP Home, 24X CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive.
I tested it out as soon as AOD came out for the PC and it plays just as well on the laptop as on my desktop.
I hated traveling places with a laptop that wouldn't play the newer TR games.
I was able to play the games up through TR3 but the games after that wouldn't play.
Now I can play them on my laptop...and yes, I'm very happy with it.
Good luck with whatever laptop you end up with.
Tina

creativetwo
26-08-03, 13:22
Originally posted by Colin125:
Thank you Draco. I know it's not advisable to play games on a laptop but what sort of things do I need to play PC games? I getting a Sony laptop (silver) but if the store doesn't have any Sony laptops what other manufacturer should I get? I know I don't want Apple. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Colin...one of the most important things for playing games on a laptop is the video card. You either need the Nvidia or the ATI one.
The sales people should be able to tell you what you'll need video card wise. Oh...I do remember an article that I read on gaming laptops and they said you need at the very least 64MB for the card and they mentioned the Nvidia and ATI one.
I think I initially found the info by doing a search for gaming laptops and found that article.
Here's one article I found today that might be helpful:
http://www.gamespy.com/hardware/april02/notebook/
Naturally I can't find the original article that helped me to know what I needed. That article was from November 2002.
Tina

Colin125
26-08-03, 14:09
Thank you Tina. I would like a laptop which is compatible of playing PC games. I was looking at the NVIDIA site and I seen what appears to be their latest product, click here (http://www.nvidia.co.uk/page/fx_5900.html) and tell me what you think. Would this graphics card play PC games? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

laracroft8290
26-08-03, 15:06
You want ultimate gaming laptop?

Voodoo (http://www.voodoopc.com/systems/notebook.aspx)

P4 3.20GHz HyperThreading 800MHz FSB
1GB RAM
8x DVD/24xCDRW (you have the option to get a dvd burner)
80GB Hard Drive
16.1" TFT SXGA LCD Display
NTSC TV Tuner
56K modem
ethernet
voodoo wifi 802.11AB
windows 2000 pro
office xp pro
optical mouse

comes in eight colors

don't have a heart attack: $4,643.75

laracroft8290
26-08-03, 15:08
Oops, I forgot the best part, the above laptop comes with a 128MB ATI Mobility 9600.

And if your are really greedy, you can have up to three hard drives.

Draco
26-08-03, 23:45
Originally posted by Colin125:
Thank you Draco. I know it's not advisable to play games on a laptop but what sort of things do I need to play PC games? I getting a Sony laptop (silver) but if the store doesn't have any Sony laptops what other manufacturer should I get? I know I don't want Apple. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Well if you are buying from a retailer rather than factory direct, you will get to compare different brands side by side...

Problem is that most laptops don't meet your requirements...

I would prolly never buy a Sony Vaio on purpose...

Colin125
27-08-03, 16:02
I've got my new laptop!!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

Although it's hasn't got everything I wanted, I guess I can always upgrade it in the near future (but I love it and couldn't ask for anything more). :D

Thanks for everyone's help. ;)