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Rynn_84
04-04-08, 09:53
I must admit, I don't like the new look of Lara for TR:U, specifically her facial features. She looks gaunt, so much so, that she looks like she's had plastic surgery. Personally, I perfered TR:A Lara. Was wondering what other people thought about her face-lift?

WhiteTiger
04-04-08, 10:08
I say she looks like 45 with botoxes, and like she's drinking some male hormones.

All femininity is gone from that model. And something with proportions just isn't right!!!

smashing
04-04-08, 10:13
Yeah, got to go with you two on this, don't like her new face at all, I also prefer Lara TRA. :(

Rivendell
04-04-08, 10:17
I think she looks great; beautiful and fierce. :tmb:

http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

:cln:

george_croft
04-04-08, 10:17
Since when did 45 year women with overflowing male hormones and a botox addiction look THIS (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/TRU_Lara.jpg)good ? :confused:


People were complaining about Lara's look, and Crystal have brought classic Lara back:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/screen002_nm.jpg

Fierce eyes, full lips, petite nose, high cheekbones, well-shaped jawline, huge boobs. Its Lara *****.

Rivendell
04-04-08, 10:19
I didn't know C r o f t was a swearword! :eek: :p
But agreed, she does look like a good upgrade.

Just.tim
04-04-08, 10:49
lara is fabulous... shes a mix of tra and trl looks... loving it!

Jedd Fletcher
04-04-08, 10:52
Personally, my favourite look for Lara was the one she had in Legend: feminine yet kickass. I like her new look, but not as much as that in say Legend or Anniversary. It's a tad too masculine and her face is rather gaunt. But still, it's still Lara.

Drone
04-04-08, 10:57
she looks like she's had plastic surgery. Personally, I perfered TR:A Lara. Was wondering what other people thought about her face-lift?

plastic surgery .... yup seems so to me too. TRA lara was better IMO

WhiteTiger
04-04-08, 11:02
Personally, my favourite look for Lara was the one she had in Legend: feminine yet kickass.

Me too.

Since when did 45 year women with overflowing male hormones and a botox addiction look THIS (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/TRU_Lara.jpg)good ? :confused:


People were complaining about Lara's look, and Crystal have brought classic Lara back:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/screen002_nm.jpg

Fierce eyes, full lips, petite nose, high cheekbones, well-shaped jawline, huge boobs. Its Lara *****.

Look example of madonna about botoxes.

Yeah, she have beautiful face lines, just terribly placed :P!

Her eyes are too high. And I'm looking at her, and I'm looking at her, and I just can't like her.

http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/images/tombraiderunderworld_artwork_fan_01/screen006.jpg


Edit: I agree about plastic surgery, like the doctors have just a bit too much lift up her cheek bones.

Drone
04-04-08, 11:08
Edit: I agree about plastic surgery, like the doctors have just a bit lift up her cheek bones.

it's rather designer's surgery

x2crazyidiot
04-04-08, 11:11
see, in the pictures above, I think Lara looks fantastic!
But in the picture below, she just looks horrible:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i227/lib6266/screen003.jpg

I agree with Jedd Fletcher. Legend was the best look I think.
But so far in Underworld, the gameplay pictures of Lara look great, so lets hope she looks great in the final piece! :tmb:

WhiteTiger
04-04-08, 11:11
it's rather designer's surgery

yeah... wow, I have I miss two words : too and much...

Just.tim
04-04-08, 11:17
i didnt like anniversary lara... ***** needed some makeup.. a bit of mascara and some lip tint goes along way.. i mean look at legend.... lara was fresh!

Angelus
04-04-08, 11:23
I don't know... she looks great in some screenshots, while in others she looks terrible. I'll be able to make a judgement when we get more media. *Hint hint*

Naz2000
04-04-08, 13:14
I think she looks great; beautiful and fierce. :tmb:

http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

:cln:

That picture is probably the second best images of Lara I have ever seen, she looks gorgeous and dangerous at the same time, cheeky yet serious and naughty yet nice. She looks ready for action and that is what Lara enjoys the most, nice comparison to the TR2 model as well she looks incredibly realistic in 2008:tmb:

Sweets
04-04-08, 15:17
I love the new ingame model and CD SHOULDN'T change it at all IMO. She looks fantastic and so badass. Goodbye Legend and Anniversary Lara, hello TRU Lara!

louisx5x
04-04-08, 15:25
this is a good thread ~~ :D lara looks good except she kinda reminds me of a monkey dunno why tho but dont dis c.d coz they took alot of time rendering her face :tea:

gtkilla
04-04-08, 15:31
see, in the pictures above, I think Lara looks fantastic!
But in the picture below, she just looks horrible:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i227/lib6266/screen003.jpg

I agree with Jedd Fletcher. Legend was the best look I think.
But so far in Underworld, the gameplay pictures of Lara look great, so lets hope she looks great in the final piece! :tmb:

I have to agree. The face mugshot is quite possibly the worst image of Lara I've ever seen. She looks gaunt, haggard, anorexic, botox-obsessed, old, and so not 'Lara'. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/icons/icon13.gif However, I think she looks amazing in the other screens and renders (the PW ones). :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Muhammad
04-04-08, 15:36
The game is still in production. Non of the artwork is final.

SamReeves
04-04-08, 15:56
plastic surgery .... yup seems so to me too. TRA lara was better IMO

Personally, my favourite look for Lara was the one she had in Legend: feminine yet kickass. I like her new look, but not as much as that in say Legend or Anniversary. It's a tad too masculine and her face is rather gaunt. But still, it's still Lara.

:vlol: Lara should get her money back. She looks like a Mack truck.

http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg http://i27.************/15ck3t4.jpg

Sweets
04-04-08, 15:58
I like her hard, sexy look. I thought Legend Lara had too much makeup on and Anniversary Lara was too young and "pretty". TRU(current model) and the AOD model are my favorite Laras so far.

Drone
04-04-08, 15:58
:vlol: Lara should get her money back. She looks like a Mack truck.

I always knew that rebates can't be good

Sharon_14
04-04-08, 16:02
But Lara wont look like that ingame...She'll be a fatty x3

Sweets
04-04-08, 16:03
But Lara wont look like that ingame...She'll be a fatty x3

Care to explain?:confused:

WhiteTiger
04-04-08, 17:50
I think they should change her face, at least just a bit, so that those who likes her doesn't notice anything, and those who hates her like me, start to like her...

Tear
04-04-08, 17:53
The above picture looks amazing, and I would love to stare at that model throughtout my entire playthrough of Underworld - but that other picture still seems a bit off...

I think it's a bit too dark under her eyebrows. Unless it was just the setting and light making it look that dark.... I hope.

WhiteTiger
04-04-08, 18:16
I wish the shape of head is like in anniversary and legend...

Kagero
04-04-08, 19:27
I like the TRU Lara.. You have to remember that she's 40 now and it would be extremely unrealistic if she was perpetually stuck in time as a 25-year-old. She's showing signs of aging and I'm glad that they decided to realistically mature her.

By the way, for people complaining that she looks Botox'ed - if Lara was doing Botox, she wouldn't have those wrinkles around her eyes (which is the main reason why people use Botox for cosmetic use). If she was abusing Botox, she would be showing signs of it (such as droopy upper eyelids, bruising, asymmetrical features, and dimpling due to the thinning of muscle tissue).

OhMr
04-04-08, 19:44
I think she looks great; beautiful and fierce. :tmb:

http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

:cln:

i just got excited all over again!!!!!!!!!!!! May they do well with TRU

Sweets
04-04-08, 20:18
I like the TRU Lara.. You have to remember that she's 40 now and it would be extremely unrealistic if she was perpetually stuck in time as a 25-year-old. She's showing signs of aging and I'm glad that they decided to realistically mature her.

By the way, for people complaining that she looks Botox'ed - if Lara was doing Botox, she wouldn't have those wrinkles around her eyes (which is the main reason why people use Botox for cosmetic use). If she was abusing Botox, she would be showing signs of it (such as droopy upper eyelids, bruising, asymmetrical features, and dimpling due to the thinning of muscle tissue).

Since CD changed her bio, Lara is not 40. She is about 29 I believe?

Mikel Croft
04-04-08, 20:31
Her face is too sharp, like a wolf or something.

I don't like it.

Tidus
04-04-08, 20:33
It's ok...I've never been too disappointed with any of the versions of her, she's always been pretty :)

She looks a bit grumpier than she did in AOD though...

Sweets
04-04-08, 20:39
I like grumpy looking Lara lol, Lara shouldn't be sweet and pretty all the time, thats not normal.

Tina Croft
04-04-08, 20:44
the first time i saw the new Lara, i didn't know what i should think. then i didn't like her. but now i love her! her new look is fantastic. i'm completely satisfied.

she just looks a bit 'older' and very mature and maybe even a bit manly because of her muscles (what's not bad imo). that's a thing you have to get used to.

MoonSword
04-04-08, 20:55
I like Lara's new look. CD has always made a good job there IMO.

Portugalraider
04-04-08, 21:01
I only would give her more cheeks, her face is to skinie

Since CD changed her bio, Lara is not 40. She is about 29 I believe?

CD din't change lara's birthday (at least I don't know any change), but Underworld happens weeks ou monthes after Legend, so lara haves 38-39 in the game (but only if it was 2006 in legend)

disjointed
04-04-08, 21:02
Has anyone tried to compare this model to the past ones (especially legend and anniversary). I don't see much of a difference.

da tomb raider!
04-04-08, 21:10
The new Lara doesn't look too bad. She just looks like an 800-year-old witch, that's all. :)

Sweets
04-04-08, 21:15
The new Lara doesn't look too bad. She just looks like an 800-year-old witch, that's all. :)

:vlol: I have to disagree with you there, to me she looks great, tough and sexy like Lara should be. This model doesn't look like she could break down at any given time like the past two models.:mis: I respect your opinion though.

The render however is terrible, because of the lighting. It makes her look tired and a little washed out.

TombHacker
04-04-08, 22:07
I like the new look but in some of the screenshots her face looks some what strange.

Larapink
04-04-08, 22:12
She looks pretty, but I still think her Legend look was when she was the most beautiful.

WhiteTiger
04-04-08, 23:17
The new Lara doesn't look too bad. She just looks like an 800-year-old witch, that's all. :)

I would disagree and said more like 1200 year old b... i mean witch. :)

Legend was definitely best model yet. Too bad they didn't stick to that. I still think she looks like a mix between horse, human and fish. I could imagine her like the stupid fish from Nemo movie.

Sweets
04-04-08, 23:19
I would disagree and said more like 1200 year old b... i mean witch. :)

Legend was definitely best model yet. Too bad they didn't stick to that. I still think she looks like a mix between horse, human and fish. I could imagine her like the stupid fish from Nemo movie.

A little overexaggerated don't you think? Besides you will be looking at her very sexy backside 90% of the game anyway.:ton:

aussie500
05-04-08, 05:19
I must admit, I don't like the new look of Lara for TR:U, specifically her facial features. She looks gaunt, so much so, that she looks like she's had plastic surgery. Personally, I perfered TR:A Lara. Was wondering what other people thought about her face-lift?

Right because everyone knows having lines under your eyes and cheekbones makes you look gaunt and ugly. Fortunately most people do not think that way, some of the comments in the thread l am wondering if some are even real people they do not seem to know what one looks like.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/photo_18201716.jpg

New model looks great to me, she still has all the features the old Lara had, big lips and eyes, small nose and high well defined cheekbones which we can now see better with the more realistic shading.

Sweets
05-04-08, 06:01
Right because everyone knows having lines under your eyes and cheekbones makes you look gaunt and ugly. Fortunately most people do not think that way, some of the comments in the thread l am wondering if some are even real people they do not seem to know what one looks like.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/photo_18201716.jpg

New model looks great to me, she still has all the features the old Lara had, big lips and eyes, small nose and high well defined cheekbones which we can now see better with the more realistic shading.

Well said:tmb: gorgeous Angie pick btw

Tear
05-04-08, 06:32
Yep, it's definately the eyes. It's way too dark above them, that it looks very awkward just looking at her.

To be honest... it's nice that they went for the classic Lara look, but I'd still prefer a 100% realistic, sexy, badass looking Lara, that looks real.

Maybe I'm the only one...

WhiteTiger
05-04-08, 08:34
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/photo_18201716.jpg


Oh, new lara is anorexic, probably that's the new ''it'' again, let's all be anorexic!!

Catlantean
05-04-08, 09:43
I don't like the angular-faced, "manly"render too much, but she looks much better and much more Lara-like in the screenshots :tmb:

Encore
05-04-08, 12:39
I like Lara in all screenshots and renders we have seen so far, except this one.


http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i227/lib6266/screen003.jpg


So I'm guessing it's just a poorly chosen pose/light/whatever for this particular render..

drakl0r
05-04-08, 13:20
there's nothing wrong with her new looks, but i hope in the final version they'll "feminize" her face a little bit. She looks really fierce.

SamReeves
05-04-08, 14:50
there's nothing wrong with her new looks, but i hope in the final version they'll "feminize" her face a little bit. She looks really fierce.

Indeed. Otherwise people will tell her to use the men's room instead! ;)

Meldorian
05-04-08, 16:47
This is only really the case with that strange render. In the in-game images, I think her face is great. A little fierce, surce, but we are talking about Lara Croft here, after all.

domina
05-04-08, 17:31
Every time these topics come up, I try to see it, but I don't. I think she looks stunning. The only thing that looks a little odd to me in that particular render are her eyes because they're so wide-set next to such a tiny nose, but that's always been the case with every incarnation.

gtkilla
05-04-08, 18:41
I like the TRU Lara.. You have to remember that she's 40 now and it would be extremely unrealistic if she was perpetually stuck in time as a 25-year-old. She's showing signs of aging and I'm glad that they decided to realistically mature her.

She's not forty. CD dropped Core's birth year with Legend. She's got no real age, which is fine because she's a fake video game character. No need to age her like a real human being. ;)

By the way, for people complaining that she looks Botox'ed - if Lara was doing Botox, she wouldn't have those wrinkles around her eyes (which is the main reason why people use Botox for cosmetic use). If she was abusing Botox, she would be showing signs of it (such as droopy upper eyelids, bruising, asymmetrical features, and dimpling due to the thinning of muscle tissue).

To me, TR:U Lara looks like she's on botox because she looks old, yet she's got no wrinkles on her except for those around her eyes.

Right because everyone knows having lines under your eyes and cheekbones makes you look gaunt and ugly. Fortunately most people do not think that way, some of the comments in the thread l am wondering if some are even real people they do not seem to know what one looks like.

I know perfectly well what a human being looks like, thank you very much. Underworld Lara's ugliness is not limited to the definition in her cheekbones and lines under her eyes (I don't recall anyone saying she looked ugly because of it either). The combination of her big head, tiny neck, very low brow bone, paper thin nose, oddly shaped eyebrows, huge upper lip, dead looking eyes also contribute to her ugliness, and the list doesn't end there...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/photo_18201716.jpg

New model looks great to me, she still has all the features the old Lara had, big lips and eyes, small nose and high well defined cheekbones which we can now see better with the more realistic shading.Lara's never had such high defined cheekbones nor an ultra thin nose.

WhiteTiger
05-04-08, 19:07
Applause to Gtkilla!

I totally agree with you! Finally someone here with good taste.

Brikas94
05-04-08, 19:35
I think she looks more dangerous... and thank god for it! I always thought she needed a look more like this... and for those who think she looks old: don't forget she IS older... CD couldnīt make her always the same... it is more realistic this way...

Heckler
05-04-08, 20:15
Well if you dont like her now....learn to!!!
Lara looks her best yet!! Its all about getting used to her....
Cd's Lara is WWWAAAYYY more beautiful than Core's testosterone filled classic Lara.....
And by the way.....I'd like to see some of you moaning spoilt brats make a lara model in 3d as excuisite as TRU Lara......

Rivendell
05-04-08, 20:19
I hardly think you need to be a master at 3d modelling to have the right to complain about her image.

Heckler
05-04-08, 20:23
I hardly think you need to be a master at 3d modelling to have the right to complain about her image.

Well theres a difference between freedom of speech and being a total oppinionated jerk......wouldnt you agree Riv?....
And noone has the right to insult an artwork!! If you just dont like it dont say anything......Its called being pollite

New_Raider
05-04-08, 20:25
I think she looks great; beautiful and fierce. :tmb:

http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

:cln:
Are you kidding?
Her biography says (if Lara was real) she would be in her 40s, but since when have official bios continued the aging process for characters like Lara?
Do they want us to remember the character is supposed to be human like "Batman Beyond"?

I actually think she looked best in Legend (that includes her hair style).
The long ponytail (or just a braided one) is getting pretty old.

Angel_14
05-04-08, 20:33
The new Lara looks beautiful; way better than in the last two games where her face was too round and baby like.

As a woman, I'm deeply, honestly insulted by some of the comments. Women who have wrinkles around their eyes and have strong face features are ugly and are on steroids? Because that's what I got from the negative comments and I really find them sexist. Round baby faced women are not any better.

And she looks about as anorexic as a hippopotamus, if we are here...

Heckler
05-04-08, 20:34
The new Lara looks beautiful; way better than in the last two games where her face was too round and baby like.

As a woman, I'm deeply, honestly insulted by some of the comments. Women who have wrinkles around their eyes and have strong face features are ugly and are on steroids? Because that's what I got from the negative comments and I really find them sexist. Round baby faced women are not any better.

And she looks about as anorexic as a hippopotamus, if we are here...


Thank God theres at least one person here who shares my thoughts on this......:)

Rivendell
05-04-08, 20:42
Are you kidding?


No, as I said - I think she looks beautiful and fierce.

New_Raider
05-04-08, 20:47
The new Lara looks beautiful; way better than in the last two games where her face was too round and baby like.

As a woman, I'm deeply, honestly insulted by some of the comments. Women who have wrinkles around their eyes and have strong face features are ugly and are on steroids? Because that's what I got from the negative comments and I really find them sexist. Round baby faced women are not any better.

And she looks about as anorexic as a hippopotamus, if we are here...
Well I never said she was ugly (hate that term by the way), I just don't think she looks good enough to be the kind of Lara Croft we know and love.

Her father was a well to do business man who wanted proper etiquette for his daughter.
Lara is a kick ass rebel, but she is still a feminine one, which Crystal Dynamics wanted to show with a wide range of emotions that's more prominent on females.
Lara looks one dimensional again, with only 1 emotion on her face.
Furthermore it looks like she's de-evolving into pre-woman.

Look at her nose and cheekbones, her eyes and brows, and her chin and jaw bone.
The nose is big compared to it's bridge, but she has such full cheeks and low eyes, you think it's actually small.

Another illusion is to make Lara's eyes real long and big, this way her nose can appear small.

Angel_14
05-04-08, 20:48
Of course she has one emotion on her face! It's a still picture!

AmericanAssassin
05-04-08, 20:50
No, as I said - I think she looks beautiful and fierce.

I agree with you completely... If Core were still around, I think they would be impressed with her new look. B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L! :cln:

LaraLover32
05-04-08, 20:53
Since when did 45 year women with overflowing male hormones and a botox addiction look THIS (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/TRU_Lara.jpg)good ? :confused:


People were complaining about Lara's look, and Crystal have brought classic Lara back:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/screen002_nm.jpg

Fierce eyes, full lips, petite nose, high cheekbones, well-shaped jawline, huge boobs. Its Lara *****.

Agree 100%

New_Raider
05-04-08, 21:08
Of course she has one emotion on her face! It's a still picture!
What I mean is it looks like she's the stereotype kickass gaming babe again (big boobs included) who doesn't have the ability to show emotion.
Just look at the above pic.
She looks a little butched out.

thiagosmr
05-04-08, 21:12
Since when did 45 year women with overflowing male hormones and a botox addiction look THIS (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/TRU_Lara.jpg)good ? :confused:


People were complaining about Lara's look, and Crystal have brought classic Lara back:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/screen002_nm.jpg

Fierce eyes, full lips, petite nose, high cheekbones, well-shaped jawline, huge boobs. Its Lara *****.

Yes.. she has that look from the classics... but still, the models from Legend and Anniversary were better!! And this is amazing... they went back for this and not for the stuff that really matters!!!

Sweets
05-04-08, 21:17
The new Lara looks beautiful; way better than in the last two games where her face was too round and baby like.

As a woman, I'm deeply, honestly insulted by some of the comments. Women who have wrinkles around their eyes and have strong face features are ugly and are on steroids? Because that's what I got from the negative comments and I really find them sexist. Round baby faced women are not any better.

And she looks about as anorexic as a hippopotamus, if we are here...

Well said, some people are coming across as very insulting(its just a character model). She doesn't look old or wrinkly or botoxed. She looks hot. Please CD DO NOT CHANGE HER INGAME MODEL!

New_Raider
05-04-08, 21:34
The new Lara looks beautiful; way better than in the last two games where her face was too round and baby like.

As a woman, I'm deeply, honestly insulted by some of the comments. Women who have wrinkles around their eyes and have strong face features are ugly and are on steroids? Because that's what I got from the negative comments and I really find them sexist. Round baby faced women are not any better.

And she looks about as anorexic as a hippopotamus, if we are here...
Well said, some people are coming across as very insulting(its just a character model). She doesn't look old or wrinkly or botoxed. She looks hot. Please CD DO NOT CHANGE HER INGAME MODEL!
You and Angel are being insulting as well.
Although you both say SOME people, it comes across as though you mean all people.
I don't like sexism, ageism, racism or any kind of ism, so please don't include me in that statement.

The only thing I will state as being segregation, is that blacks tend to want to show off their sexiness more than whites.
Take rap videos compared to rock videos.
Whites might show cleavage and side boob, while blacks show big butts in tight clothing and girls in thongs bumping and grinding for the camera.

Angel_14
05-04-08, 21:38
You and Angel are being insulting as well.
Although you both say SOME people, it comes across as though you mean all people.
I don't like sexism, ageism, racism or any kind of ism, so please don't include me in that statement.

I didn't and don't include you or anyone in that statement. You've come across quiet polite to me after I read some 'anorexic testosterone 40 years old comment'

And I'm sorry if I sounded insulting, but I'm starting to have enough of generalizing...

Sweets
05-04-08, 21:41
You and Angel are being insulting as well.
Although you both say SOME people, it comes across as though you mean all people.
I don't like sexism, ageism, racism or any kind of ism, so please don't include me in that statement.

The only thing I will state as being segregation, is that blacks tend to want to show off their sexiness more than whites.
Take rap videos compared to rock videos.
Whites might show cleavage and side boob, while blacks show big butts in tight clothing and girls in thongs bumping and grinding for the camera.


oookay what the heck? I said SOME PEOPLE and DID NOT MEAN ALL PEOPLE. I didn't even include you.And where do you get sexism, agesim, racism in anyones posts? And what is this about blacks showing off their sexiness more than whites? What does that have to do with anything?

New_Raider
05-04-08, 21:42
I didn't and don't include you or anyone in that statement. You've come across quiet polite to me after I read some 'anorexic testosterone 40 years old comment'

And I'm sorry if I sounded insulting, but I'm starting to have enough of generalizing...
That's ok.
I might have been a little quick to judge myself.
You're ok in my book. ;)
oookay what the heck? I said SOME PEOPLE and DID NOT MEAN ALL PEOPLE. And what do you get sexism, agesim, racism in anyones posts? And what is this about blacks showing off their sexiness more than whites? What does that have to do with anything?
Calm down a little.
Sexism because of some of the comments about females.
Ageism because of comments about age.
Racism just to drive my point across.

The statement of blacks VS whites has nothing to do with Tomb Raider, but I was just giving you an observation of mine.

By the way, I don't think blantent bumping and grinding is sexy.

aussie500
05-04-08, 22:03
I like Lara in all screenshots and renders we have seen so far, except this one.



So I'm guessing it's just a poorly chosen pose/light/whatever for this particular render..

The light is coming from the left of the picture rather than from in front of Lara, this means her face is shaded and there is no light shining in her eyes. Also the model has no antialiasing, it would be much smoother in the game.
Where the light is coming from should make no difference though people should know how light affects a persons face and not judge so harshly just because they do not like how Lara looks in one render. It is the same face in the other screenshots we have seen, different lighting different expression and all of a sudden people think she is fantastic.

She's not forty. CD dropped Core's birth year with Legend. She's got no real age, which is fine because she's a fake video game character. No need to age her like a real human being. ;)


To me, TR:U Lara looks like she's on botox because she looks old, yet she's got no wrinkles on her except for those around her eyes.



I know perfectly well what a human being looks like, thank you very much. Underworld Lara's ugliness is not limited to the definition in her cheekbones and lines under her eyes (I don't recall anyone saying she looked ugly because of it either). The combination of her big head, tiny neck, very low brow bone, paper thin nose, oddly shaped eyebrows, huge upper lip, dead looking eyes also contribute to her ugliness, and the list doesn't end there...

Lara's never had such high defined cheekbones nor an ultra thin nose.

Core dropped Lara's year of birth with AOD (or possibly earlier), you do not provide the year of birth for a character who is not going to age. There is nothing in the render to indicate Lara is any older than her late 20's, so l do not see why people keep saying she looks old.

Lara has always had high cheekbones, you look at her profile you can see them, but since her face has never had proper real time shading before you could never see them clearly defined from a frontal perspective which is why Legends Lara looked "chubby cheeked"



Well I never said she was ugly (hate that term by the way), I just don't think she looks good enough to be the kind of Lara Croft we know and love.

Her father was a well to do business man who wanted proper etiquette for his daughter.
Lara is a kick ass rebel, but she is still a feminine one, which Crystal Dynamics wanted to show with a wide range of emotions that's more prominent on females.
Lara looks one dimensional again, with only 1 emotion on her face.
Furthermore it looks like she's de-evolving into pre-woman.

Look at her nose and cheekbones, her eyes and brows, and her chin and jaw bone.
The nose is big compared to it's bridge, but she has such full cheeks and low eyes, you think it's actually small.

Another illusion is to make Lara's eyes real long and big, this way her nose can appear small.

Lara has the same facial characteristics she has always had, she is not meant to look like a real person, and it is pretty pointless saying a picture is only showing one emotion. Lara's face will change during the game and show a range of emotions, at this particular point she is just showing the fierce look so many of us would consider typical Lara. In the render she is showing no emotion, in one of the screenshots she shows her usual killer snarl, and in others we can see she is concentrating. What emotion Lara happens to show at the time, does not make her any less feminine than she has always been. She is not some prissy barbie doll that only smiles all the time, and never has been.

Larapink
05-04-08, 22:11
There is nothing in the render to indicate Lara is any older than her late 20's, so l do not see why people keep saying she looks old.
She looks like she's in her late 30s not 20s, I am in my early theres no way i'll look like that in my late 20s.

New_Raider
05-04-08, 22:26
Lara has the same facial characteristics she has always had, she is not meant to look like a real person, and it is pretty pointless saying a picture is only showing one emotion. Lara's face will change during the game and show a range of emotions, at this particular point she is just showing the fierce look so many of us would consider typical Lara. In the render she is showing no emotion, in one of the screenshots she shows her usual killer snarl, and in others we can see she is concentrating. What emotion Lara happens to show at the time, does not make her any less feminine than she has always been. She is not some prissy barbie doll that only smiles all the time, and never has been.
First of all, I have never seen any other screens like you pointed out, but that is beside the point.
The typical gaming babe does not show more than 3 emotions during a full game.
I did not mean this picture alone.
It was compared to TR2 which also had a shallow Lara, so what do you think I'm supposed to think?

When Angelina Jolie played Lara, she was concerned she was too top heavy, but CD made Lara just as top heavy, and maybe that will make her more shallow as well, not to say Jolie is shallow.

aussie500
05-04-08, 22:59
She looks like she's in her late 30s not 20s, I am in my early theres no way i'll look like that in my late 20s.

Well how is she different then from how you looked in your late 20's, even children have lines under their eyes, there is nothing in that render to indicate she is older than she has been in most of the games.

First of all, I have never seen any other screens like you pointed out, but that is beside the point.
The typical gaming babe does not show more than 3 emotions during a full game.
I did not mean this picture alone.
It was compared to TR2 which also had a shallow Lara, so what do you think I'm supposed to think?

When Angelina Jolie played Lara, she was concerned she was too top heavy, but CD made Lara just as top heavy, and maybe that will make her more shallow as well, not to say Jolie is shallow.

How can you judge a character shallow by one screenshot, in game Lara for the first 5 games had two facial expressions, in the cutscenes she never really showed much difference, it was only in the FMV's she showed a real range of emotions, l also never considered Lara shallow in any game. A proper next gen game is a vast difference to a PS1 game, and Lara has never been a typical gaming babe anyway. I also fail to see how the size of ones top would effect the range of emotions a character can have, but likely l missed the point.

Larapink
05-04-08, 23:03
Well how is she different then from how you looked in your late 20's, even children have lines under their eyes, there is nothing in that render to indicate she is older than she has been in most of the games.
Well now that you have put it that way, I now agree. She has been through alot during her life it good that she shows it on her face. I now like Underworld Lara! :)

New_Raider
06-04-08, 00:30
I also fail to see how the size of ones top would effect the range of emotions a character can have, but likely l missed the point.
There's an old saying:
Blondes have more fun.
By "more fun" they mean 1: A wild child, and 2: A little ditzy.
Lara has always been a wild child, but I'm applying the blonde theory to big and full breasts, and think this Lara may be ditzy as well.
If you wanna be realistic though, her breasts would be more like a man's.

In the previous post I said she was butched out, but if you think about it, she actually could be a closet lesbian.
She rebels against society, which is a small start.
She has a disgust about the idea that a woman needs a man.
She pumps iron and works out every day.
And she is still a virgin (her finance died in a plane crash before anything could happen).

Larapink
06-04-08, 00:43
There's an old saying:
Blondes have more fun.

And she is still a virgin (her finance died in a plane crash before anything could happen).
Lara is better with Brown hair.

You never know a Women has needs ;). She has never been married yet she can only be married to the one guy I think you all know who I am talking about. ;)

Sweets
06-04-08, 00:43
There's an old saying:
Blondes have more fun.
By "more fun" they mean 1: A wild child, and 2: A little ditzy.
Lara has always been a wild child, but I'm applying the blonde theory to big and full breasts, and think this Lara may be ditzy as well.
If you wanna be realistic though, her breasts would be more like a man's.

In the previous post I said she was butched out, but if you think about it, she actually could be a closet lesbian.
She rebels against society, which is a small start.
She has a disgust about the idea that a woman needs a man.
She pumps iron and works out every day.
And she is still a virgin (her finance died in a plane crash before anything could happen).


I thought you hated generalizations? Or any kind of "isms" There are alot of stereotypes and generalizations in your post.

aussie500
06-04-08, 00:49
Her supposed betrothed dying in the plane accident was just some bit of nonesense Core put in for background info, it has never been mentioned in any of the games and l am pretty sure Crystal Dynamics would never keep it. Lara seems to have no trouble being attracted to the opposite sex and has never been butched out. Your talk of blondes makes no sense to me, sorry but l find it extremely sexist and not relevant to the topic of emotions.

The new Lara looks just as good as she always did, just as feminine and just as young, but some people are never happy unless they complain about something. Just as well l am not in charge of handing out of goodies, l would only let the journalists see the good stuff, so all the fans would have is magazine articles till three months before release. l used to love seeing everything about the games, but the fans around here just do not seem to appreciate getting to see early material, and the complaining really ruins the enjoyment for me at least.

The side view of the render people are complaining about, it is a very early model.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/tomb-raider-underworld-side.jpg

The pre alpha version seen in the level the press saw.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen001.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003-1.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen006.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/tru-screenshot-005.jpg

There will be changes made yet, bugs ironed out and possibly the fans will have some influence on any changes made to Lara, but some of the comments about the render and Lara's new look have been ridiculous.

Larapink
06-04-08, 00:54
The side view of the render people are complaining about, it is a very early model.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen006.jpg

There will be changes made yet, and possibly the fans will have some influence on that, but some of the comments about the render and Lara's new look have been ridiculous.
Agreed there are still changes that could be made, like what the did with the early Legend model.

Wow that close up picture of her she looks beautiful, I am glad I changed my mind. Because Crystal Dynamics know what they are doing.

Sweets
06-04-08, 00:57
She looks extremely beautiful ingame, I love her facial expressions she is making in those screens, and I love her muscles:cln:(Finally!). I hope they don't change her ingame model, this is the best shes looked IMO.

aussie500
06-04-08, 01:03
l think the "look" is set, but they could still play around with minor details with the model, and the hair as usual still needs a bit of work, they would likely be much further advanced now. Whether or not we see the alpha version remains to be seen, they might choose to wait till they are further advanced before showing her off again.

Larapink
06-04-08, 01:06
I like the fact that they are making her look more exotic looking her features are amazing!

New_Raider
06-04-08, 04:27
There's an old saying:
Blondes have more fun.
By "more fun" they mean 1: A wild child, and 2: A little ditzy.
Lara has always been a wild child, but I'm applying the blonde theory to big and full breasts, and think this Lara may be ditzy as well.
If you wanna be realistic though, her breasts would be more like a man's.

In the previous post I said she was butched out, but if you think about it, she actually could be a closet lesbian.
She rebels against society, which is a small start.
She has a disgust about the idea that a woman needs a man.
She pumps iron and works out every day.
And she is still a virgin (her finance died in a plane crash before anything could happen).
I thought you hated generalizations? Or any kind of "isms" There are alot of stereotypes and generalizations in your post.
You are correct that I don't like stereotypes, however stereotypes are like fairy tales, there is a little kernel of truth to them.

There is a greater ratio of blondes in the Girls Gone Wild DVDs, but that doesn't mean there are no brunets or red heads.
By the way, I was not really talking of hair color, and Lara's hair is auburn anyway.

I'm copying all these pics for posting reference.
I didn't see all of these before.
http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/screen002_nm.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i227/lib6266/screen003.jpg
http://i27.************/15ck3t4.jpg
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http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/photo_18201716.jpg
You can't seriously compare these two.
Try using Legend pics instead.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/tomb-raider-underworld-side.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen001.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen006.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/tru-screenshot-005.jpg
Her supposed betrothed dying in the plane accident was just some bit of nonesense Core put in for background info, it has never been mentioned in any of the games and l am pretty sure Crystal Dynamics would never keep it. Lara seems to have no trouble being attracted to the opposite sex and has never been butched out. Your talk of blondes makes no sense to me, sorry but l find it extremely sexist and not relevant to the topic of emotions.

The new Lara looks just as good as she always did, just as feminine and just as young, but some people are never happy unless they complain about something. Just as well l am not in charge of handing out of goodies, l would only let the journalists see the good stuff, so all the fans would have is magazine articles till three months before release. l used to love seeing everything about the games, but the fans around here just do not seem to appreciate getting to see early material, and the complaining really ruins the enjoyment for me at least.

The side view of the render people are complaining about, it is a very early model.

There will be changes made yet, bugs ironed out and possibly the fans will have some influence on any changes made to Lara, but some of the comments about the render and Lara's new look have been ridiculous.
The plane crash idea has always been something the fans took to heart (I believe it was in the Bahamas).
My reference to blondes was not about hair color, nor was it meant to be offencive.

To be continued...

aussie500
06-04-08, 08:43
You are correct that I don't like stereotypes, however stereotypes are like fairy tales, there is a little kernel of truth to them.

There is a greater ratio of blondes in the Girls Gone Wild DVDs, but that doesn't mean there are no brunets or red heads.
By the way, I was not really talking of hair color, and Lara's hair is auburn anyway.

I'm copying all these pics for posting reference.
I didn't see all of these before.




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http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/photo_18201716.jpg
You can't seriously compare these two.
Try using Legend pics instead.


The plane crash idea has always been something the fans took to heart (I believe it was in the Bahamas).
My reference to blondes was not about hair color, nor was it meant to be offencive.

To be continued...

Well the fans take lots of fan fiction to heart, does not have any bearing on the actual games and nothing to do with the real Lara, basically that is all that later background was. Unfortunately you cannot use a Legend picture to compare shading effects, since next gen Legend did not have realistic shading on Lara's face, and that does seem to be the reason why people are complaining about the render, because of the shading. Well Angelina has high well defined cheekbones, a strong chin and a similar jawline to Lara, and no she does not look old, or ugly most people would consider Angelina Jolie quite beautiful, especially in the shot l used. So why is it when Lara finally gets a real 3D face with realistic shading everyone complains she looks old? Lara has never been fat, you should be able to see her cheekbones when looking directly at her unless there is a very strong direct light, her face is not flat. Although it has never really been noticable in the old games with next gen Lara it was, you could see the pores on her face, and yet still you could only see her cheekbones in profile, her face did look flat which is why it seemed so chubby, they used colour and her hair to try and give definition to her face, not realistic shading.

zappo3000
06-04-08, 08:48
she still looks like lara.....

abraham
06-04-08, 09:03
She looks great!

its great that people complain, it shows that CD still needs to fix up her face but i hope they dont change her face or anything else!! perfect for me

Shes hot here!!!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/tru-screenshot-005.jpg

aussie500
06-04-08, 09:15
she still looks like lara.....

She does and that's the main thing, and now she actually looks more realistic, while still being Lara.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/uvs070428-021.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/tomb2cheat2007-12-1622-38-18-85.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen005.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/trl2007-02-2522-22-28-31.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/trl2007-02-2521-58-51-30.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003-2.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen019a.jpg

Drone
06-04-08, 09:24
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen005.jpg

hm and what is that blue line on her nose?

aussie500
06-04-08, 09:25
l have no idea, but it appears in all the TR5 screenshots l have for some strange reason, usually you cannot notice it unless Lara has a close encounter with the camera.

_Zip_
06-04-08, 10:20
:Di luv laras look

WhiteTiger
06-04-08, 11:10
How can't you see that she was much better in legend? And now looks like she had bad plastic surgery between legend and underworld.

MikeAC
06-04-08, 11:18
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpg

IMO she'd look a lot better with thicker eyebrows. She hasn't looked quite right since she lost them in Anniversary. That aside I don't mind her face that much, but the outfit is horrendous.

WhiteTiger
06-04-08, 12:00
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpg


Does she look cross eyed?

Muhammad
06-04-08, 12:06
nop look closer

croft6455
06-04-08, 12:40
I think Lara looks in her mid 20s in TRL, in her early to mid 30s in Anniversary and around mid 30s in TRU, except for that picture of her face where there is shadow under her cheekbones. It just makes her look... well... OLD.:hea:
Although I have seen a few sceenshot of her in the game, and I think she looks fine. Just remember though, they haven't completely finished making the game,
I think it's out around Christmas this year, and the point is for her to look more realistic, but I don't think they should make her older than 40. TRU is the sequel
to Legend, I don't think they should have too many years on Lara in TRU after she was young looking in Legend. I liked her look in Legend, I don't think they should get rid of it in any future TR games.:)

New_Raider
06-04-08, 15:43
How can't you see that she was much better in legend? And now looks like she had bad plastic surgery between legend and underworld.
Finally, the voice of reason! :D
I think it (her look in Legend) had mostly to do with the hair.
No super long braid.
In fact braids are out, the loose look is much better.
She looks great!

its great that people complain, it shows that CD still needs to fix up her face but i hope they don't change her face or anything else!! perfect for me

Shes hot here!!!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/tru-screenshot-005.jpg
You've got to be kidding!
This is one of the worst pictures ever of her!
See what I mean about no emotions.

I hope they don't lose the legend hair.
Although her ponytail was locked in the headset, it was loose instead of braided.
Past TR1, that always bothered me, and I was glad to see something different in TRC, but it wasn't good enough.

Oh wait, I didn't notice this before:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/tomb-raider-underworld-side.jpg
For some reason her profile does look better than full face.

zodiaco
06-04-08, 16:05
I think Lara looks in her mid 20s in TRL, in her early to mid 30s in Anniversary and around mid 30s in TRU, except for that picture of her face where there is shadow under her cheekbones. It just makes her look... well... OLD.:hea:
Although I have seen a few sceenshot of her in the game, and I think she looks fine. Just remember though, they haven't completely finished making the game,
I think it's out around Christmas this year, and the point is for her to look more realistic, but I don't think they should make her older than 40. TRU is the sequel
to Legend, I don't think they should have too many years on Lara in TRU after she was young looking in Legend. I liked her look in Legend, I don't think they should get rid of it in any future TR games.:)

:(

MoonSword
06-04-08, 16:19
TRU is the sequel to Legend, I don't think they should have too many years on Lara in TRU after she was young looking in Legend. I liked her look in Legend, I don't think they should get rid of it in any future TR games.:)

Just a little more realistic, as technology allows it! :)

Braider
06-04-08, 16:53
I think she looks great!!

We have only had a glimpse so far Wait till we get live animation WOW!!!

New_Raider
06-04-08, 17:21
Now that I look at it, she looks way better in profile.
She has a slightly big nose, which does make her more realistic, but what really does it for me is her shoulders.
She has never had such nice looking ones, and of course her loose ponytail, only I think it could have been more rounded instead of cut straight across.
Strike that, it is rounded.
That's a shadow, like how you can't see someone's second leg in full in the dark, but you know it's there.

croft94
06-04-08, 17:23
she does look like the classic lara:D

but the back part of her jaw still looks a bit big

Larapink
06-04-08, 17:36
she does look like the classic lara:D

but the back part of her jaw still looks a bit big
She has great bone structure, her jaw is not big is just well defind.

dream raider
06-04-08, 17:38
I think she's extremely beautiful but I'm sure she'll change a lot until the final product, unfortunately or fortunately.

New_Raider
06-04-08, 17:52
she does look like the classic lara:D

but the back part of her jaw still looks a bit big
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/member.php?u=24916
Oh my god, what was this from?

dream raider
06-04-08, 17:55
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/member.php?u=24916
Oh my god, what was this from?

Don't worry! That is definitely not the new Lara Croft. It was most probably made using Photoshop, an image editing program.

Larapink
06-04-08, 17:58
Don't worry! That is definitely not the new Lara Croft. It was most probably made using Photoshop, an image editing program.
It's not the final version of her, but they didn't make her in Photoshop they made her in 3Ds Max 9 or Maya or Zbrush, trust me I know ;)

dream raider
06-04-08, 18:00
It's not the final version of her, but they didn't make her in Photoshop they made her in 3Ds Max 9 or Maya or Zbrush, trust me I know ;)

To begin with, you should have a look at the link in what I have quoted. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. :p

Larapink
06-04-08, 18:03
To begin with, you should have a look at the link in what I have quoted. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. :p
My degree at university is about Games Art and my future career I will be working in the games industry :D. That link is just to someone's profile.

dream raider
06-04-08, 18:05
My degree at university is about Games Art and my future career I will be working in the games industry :D. That link is just to someone's profile.

...with the most horrifying avatar of Lara which has been edited with Photoshop.

Larapink
06-04-08, 18:08
...with the most horrifying picture of Lara which has been edited with Photoshop.
You can edit photo's and create textures in Photoshop, but you can't really create professional 3D models in Photoshop. Industry standard programs like 3Ds Max 9, Maya, Zbrush and Softimage XSI they are industry standard progames for creating 3D in the Games Industry.

croft94
06-04-08, 18:11
lol
i made my avatar in adobe photoshop:ton:

dream raider
06-04-08, 18:11
You can edit photo's and create textures in Photoshop, but you can't really create professional 3D models in Photoshop. Industry standard programs like 3Ds Max 9, Maya, Zbrush and Softimage XSI they are industry standard progames for creating 3D in the Games Industry.


Yes, I know. New Raider here wanted to know where that avatar was from and I responded. Anyway, I think we are driving this topic off the road for a little misunderstanding...

See? Read croft 94's above post. ;)

Larapink
06-04-08, 18:15
Oh yes now I understand, yeah we did go off topic there.

But awayway, she really looks Beautiful, She looks like she has a mix of cultures in her background. Well her facial features show what I mean.

dream raider
06-04-08, 18:18
Oh yes now I understand, yeah we did go off topic there.

But awayway, she really looks Beautiful, She looks like she has a mix of cultures in her background. Well her facial features show what I mean.


Glad you understood. ;):)

I know what you mean, she has a very unique and exotic look. Just perfect for a character like Lara.

Larapink
06-04-08, 18:23
I know what you mean, she has a very unique and exotic look. Just perfect for a character like Lara.
I like that she looks exotic, sometimes I think she looks a bit Indian in Legend and TRU which is great. :tmb: I am glad that they have kept this idea. Even in legend she had a very unique look to her, and now she looks even better.

gtkilla
06-04-08, 18:46
Well the fans take lots of fan fiction to heart, does not have any bearing on the actual games and nothing to do with the real Lara, basically that is all that later background was. Unfortunately you cannot use a Legend picture to compare shading effects, since next gen Legend did not have realistic shading on Lara's face, and that does seem to be the reason why people are complaining about the render, because of the shading. Well Angelina has high well defined cheekbones, a strong chin and a similar jawline to Lara, and no she does not look old, or ugly most people would consider Angelina Jolie quite beautiful, especially in the shot l used. So why is it when Lara finally gets a real 3D face with realistic shading everyone complains she looks old? Lara has never been fat, you should be able to see her cheekbones when looking directly at her unless there is a very strong direct light, her face is not flat. Although it has never really been noticable in the old games with next gen Lara it was, you could see the pores on her face, and yet still you could only see her cheekbones in profile, her face did look flat which is why it seemed so chubby, they used colour and her hair to try and give definition to her face, not realistic shading.

Well, in case you didn't get the memo, having well defined cheekbones, and a strong chin and jawline does not make a woman an instant beauty who looks similar to Angelina Jolie. And a person does not need to have wrinkles or a sagging face to look old. Tons of 40-50 year old women have smooth flawless skin yet they look plenty old.

And Lara has never ever had "defined cheekbones" until now.

WhiteTiger
06-04-08, 18:52
Except she have more details, and HQ texture, she doesn't look so good like in legend...

http://images.tomshardware.com/2006/05/17/maxing_out_your_graphics_card_with_tomb_raider_leg end/tomb-raider-legend-packshot.jpg

How could be anything better then this? It's like, after legend she went to time capsule and grow old fast, and to fix situation before underworld, she meet with plastic surgeons(and it didn't turn out well, looks like she have silicons under her high cheeks) and she went to botox party after. I imagine the between story like that now.

New_Raider
06-04-08, 23:14
Well, in case you didn't get the memo, having well defined cheekbones, and a strong chin and jawline does not make a woman an instant beauty who looks similar to Angelina Jolie. And a person does not need to have wrinkles or a sagging face to look old. Tons of 40-50 year old women have smooth flawless skin yet they look plenty old.

And Lara has never ever had "defined cheekbones" until now.
You just reminded me of that show "10 Years Younger", which has pleanty of made over women.
Maybe Lara was one of them.

I mentioned a Legend pic, because the Legend model (which was the best one IMO) was based on Jolie in the TR movies.

By the way, the question about the avatar was directed to the owner.
I guess I should have PMed him.

CAISACO
06-04-08, 23:18
I must admit, I don't like the new look of Lara for TR:U, specifically her facial features. She looks gaunt, so much so, that she looks like she's had plastic surgery. Personally, I perfered TR:A Lara. Was wondering what other people thought about her face-lift?

I really don't like her new look at all.
But I am being patient to see what her look will be like when more time passes by.
I think TRL Lara was the best IMO.

New_Raider
06-04-08, 23:50
I think TRL Lara was the best IMO.
AMEN!

Sweets
06-04-08, 23:53
:hea:

There is nothing wrong with having defined,high cheekbones like the current TRU model(I'm talking about INGAME not the renders as they don't look like the ingame model). I don't see why some people are so upset by the renders when they are that, just RENDERS, not the character model you will be playing as.

Alot of raiders are happy with the character model and think she looks loads better than the previous two(including me), but I understand some are not. I guess this is why alot of people want to customize Lara in the game, even when they'll be looking at her ass nearly the whole time.:confused:

Maybe CD will have an option where you can play as legend Lara or the new sexy underworld Lara. Maybe that would make people happy.

croft6455
08-04-08, 16:15
Just a little more realistic, as technology allows it! :)

I'd go for a realistic looking Legend Lara for future games. Or maybe even a Classic Lara that looks like a real person due to the graphics:jmp:
The thing is I liked the classic Lara because it's so... Croft-ish:p
(Except more realistic looking)
~And Legend Lara is really good too~

hey_jude
08-04-08, 16:28
Maybe CD will have an option where you can play as legend Lara or the new sexy underworld Lara. Maybe that would make people happy.

But why?! This is silly and far away from the reality of things. Maybe they can use different outfits by unlocking them, but Lara is the Lara we've seen so far. If they don't like her is just a problem of them, who cares? Not to be rude, but never heard of the possibility to change the look of a character (as long as the game itself is ala The Sims). Characters are unique, they have their own style, and it's pointless to select which Lara do you want for playing the game: Underworld features this mature-exotic Lara, no way. If you don't like her, simply hope in some modifications, but her model is that and will not change.

Sweets
08-04-08, 19:53
I agree with you hey jude, but alot of people seem to be so unhappy with her looks and want the option to change them in game!

Damage Inc.
09-04-08, 02:53
I think this is one of her best looks.
But it's also easy to say because older graphics are just nasty.
At least the PC wasn't as bad as like PlayStation 1 and such...

Anyways, I even thought her look in 'Legend' was kind of strange.
Not that she didn't look good or beautiful, but almost like somebody else.
And for 'Underworld', I think she just looks amazing.
It's like a more mature and dark version of Lara Croft.
Just like I also love the slight return to 'Angel Of Darkness'.
Both her and the worlds being a lot darker.


For the ones that do not like her now:

I think you all just want her to keep looking like a 18 year old girl.
It's about time she got the maturing step in her looks.
If there is anything natural, it's Lara Croft today.
And if there is anything fake, it's older 3D-models of Lara Croft.
With the overdone and slightly cartoonish shapes.

gtkilla
09-04-08, 15:25
Made this post (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=123446) in the fan art section, but I think it'd be appropriate to post it here as well. :D



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/gtkilla/underworldlegendcompa.png

When you put them side-by-side, it's so much easier to see how much they're alike! :eek:

Underworld Lara has a lot more detail obviously, but they've both got the same head shape, same lips (though LL's actually looks in proportion with the rest of her face), and the same eyes. The biggest--maybe the only differences between the two are the cheekbones, eyebrows, and nose. But, as you can see in the image, they make a HUGE difference. The eyebrows are way too low, thin and curvy in TR:U when they should be thick and angular like Legend's. The nose is too thin and narrow; it makes some of her otherwise nicer features stand out rather badly (lips and eyes). Again, it should be like Legend's. As for the cheekbones...it wouldn't make Lara's face look so thin and anorexic if her nose and eyebrows were fixed, those are the main problems with her face anyway.

Just look how different Underworld Lara looks when you layer Legend Lara's gorgeous face over it with 50% transparency! It fits perfectly! :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/gtkilla/underworldlegendtrans.png

And without LL's "chubby cheeks"!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/gtkilla/underworldlegendcheekbonestrans.png
Basically, all they need to do to fix Lara's hag face is reshape her eyebrows, raise them and widen her nose a bit. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/icons/icon14.gif :D

Jessica_TRA
09-04-08, 16:31
Even though I was a bit unsatisfied of Legend's "runway-prettygirl" style, Legend-Lara looks lots of better than Underworld's trannie-Lara. The crossing of those two images looks really nice, darker brown eyes, smoother face and darker & higher eyebrows do the trick. But I think the "chubby cheeks" looks better.

Sweets
09-04-08, 16:36
She does look better there gtkilla. I wouldn't mind her looking like that tbh, but I'm happy with the Underworld model so far.

_Zip_
09-04-08, 17:17
Awesome gtkilla. Absolutely awesome. :tmb:

Damage Inc.
09-04-08, 17:25
In the comparison-picture she looks kinda Legend Evening Dress fancy.
I think it's the hair and she's wearing something black too. XD

But I still think she does look more mature...
Which I like, the girly look should finally be less.

By the way, I think the hair looks softer now because they can.
The Legend-hair looks more pointy, but I just think that looks "old" technically.
I do however like the darker brown and the thicker looking hair.

And her eyes are too dull and different.
Also indeed the eyebrows need to be thicker, the shape just in between.

JamesFKirk
09-04-08, 17:30
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpg
The problem with this image is not the 3d model. It more looks like the face is poorly lit - more specificaly, a strong light up front (from Lara's point of view), and two weeker from both sides symetrically(although the left one seems to be strong, or the right one is set not to cast shadows). Put together, this is a very unnatural lighting. Also, the problem is that her eye texture is nonreflective - with this lighting, there should be a "spark" visible in her eyes. These two put together make her jawbones stand out, yet she still appears "soulless". I believe that this by far isn't the final model, only the basic one for ingame tests (of 3d animation, physics and such). Even though, if you compare the model up from here and this:
http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg
you may see, that the latter is more advanced (smoother, for example). Also, in this one, she actually has an expression, unlike in the first picture (it's as if she relaxed all her facial muscles, save for some especially around the lips), which will not be the case while ingame (at least, I DO hope so :) ). Another thing - there's difference in the hair. (Did you notice? Honestly! :D ) I could go on for a while, but these are the first that caught my eye.
So. Those of you that worry how she might look like (and actually like the second version), could stop worrying, since the model seems to be undergoing some work (or at least it did before the release of the second picture). :)
Hope someone took the work and read this :D

Sweets
09-04-08, 17:31
Well said and good comparison :wve:

Damage Inc.
09-04-08, 17:32
Yeah, I've seen more of the second one first.
That's why instantly liked her more dark look.
Just look the expression on her face, that promises something.

thevman
09-04-08, 17:43
Who cares? Gimme a hard old biotch over some sickeningly sweet pretty twit any time! :ohn:

gtkilla
09-04-08, 18:20
Even though I was a bit unsatisfied of Legend's "runway-prettygirl" style, Legend-Lara looks lots of better than Underworld's trannie-Lara. The crossing of those two images looks really nice, darker brown eyes, smoother face and darker & higher eyebrows do the trick. But I think the "chubby cheeks" looks better.
I wouldn't mind "chubby cheeks" or "defined cheeks", so long as they get rid of the hag face. :tea:
She does look better there gtkilla. I wouldn't mind her looking like that tbh, but I'm happy with the Underworld model so far.
I think she looks way better, which is weird considering that only a few of her features were changed. =/

In the comparison-picture she looks kinda Legend Evening Dress fancy.
I think it's the hair and she's wearing something black too. XD

But I still think she does look more mature...
Which I like, the girly look should finally be less.

By the way, I think the hair looks softer now because they can.
The Legend-hair looks more pointy, but I just think that looks "old" technically.
I do however like the darker brown and the thicker looking hair.

And her eyes are too dull and different.
Also indeed the eyebrows need to be thicker, the shape just in between.
That's why I think they should re-do the face like the pic I posted. She manages to look beautiful, yet still retains that "mature" look to her. :D :tmb: And I agree about her hair color. It should be dark chocolate brown instead of light ginger reddish-brown, or maybe something in between.


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j215/aussie500/Tomb%208/screen003.jpg
The problem with this image is not the 3d model. It more looks like the face is poorly lit - more specificaly, a strong light up front (from Lara's point of view), and two weeker from both sides symetrically(although the left one seems to be strong, or the right one is set not to cast shadows). Put together, this is a very unnatural lighting. Also, the problem is that her eye texture is nonreflective - with this lighting, there should be a "spark" visible in her eyes. These two put together make her jawbones stand out, yet she still appears "soulless". I believe that this by far isn't the final model, only the basic one for ingame tests (of 3d animation, physics and such). Even though, if you compare the model up from here and this:
http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg
you may see, that the latter is more advanced (smoother, for example). Also, in this one, she actually has an expression, unlike in the first picture (it's as if she relaxed all her facial muscles, save for some especially around the lips), which will not be the case while ingame (at least, I DO hope so :) ). Another thing - there's difference in the hair. (Did you notice? Honestly! :D ) I could go on for a while, but these are the first that caught my eye.
So. Those of you that worry how she might look like (and actually like the second version), could stop worrying, since the model seems to be undergoing some work (or at least it did before the release of the second picture). :)
Hope someone took the work and read this :D
No, the problem IS the model. Those eyebrows and that nose needs to go! :ohn: :p And I'm being serious too...

BTW, I can't see a difference in the two pics you posted other than the angle. The hair looks the same too. =/

Who cares? Gimme a hard old biotch over some sickeningly sweet pretty twit any time! :ohn:

We care, obviously. :p

tha_mattster
09-04-08, 18:55
MY PEEVES

Her head is too big. It reminds me of one of those species of human that became extinct some time ago.

Her nose is too small for her face, Lara shouldn't be the type for surgery (despite what her chest would lead you to believe).

Her neck is too short. Not lady-like.

Her body is too bulky! Hormones? Does she have a new relic? :confused:

Her hair is too thin. Side effect of hormones? Anorexic?

Overall skin/mouth etc colour is too brown. She looks like some kind of edible chocolate. Not in a sexy way!

I imagine she carries a shaving kit in her backpack now.

IMPROVEMENTS

No longer has a double chin.

Eyes look better.

Hair colour is improved and doesn't look like rope.

robm_2007
09-04-08, 19:02
i dont like the game renders, but lara in the screen shots look good.

Sweets
09-04-08, 20:41
MY PEEVES

Her head is too big. It reminds me of one of those species of human that became extinct some time ago.

Her nose is too small for her face, Lara shouldn't be the type for surgery (despite what her chest would lead you to believe).

Her neck is too short. Not lady-like.

Her body is too bulky! Hormones? Does she have a new relic? :confused:

Her hair is too thin. Side effect of hormones? Anorexic?

Overall skin/mouth etc colour is too brown. She looks like some kind of edible chocolate. Not in a sexy way!

I imagine she carries a shaving kit in her backpack now.

IMPROVEMENTS

No longer has a double chin.

Eyes look better.

Hair colour is improved and doesn't look like rope.

Her body SHOULD be a bit bulky and muscular, considering what she does.

PirateRose
09-04-08, 22:53
Her body is too bulky! Hormones? Does she have a new relic? :confused:

Her hair is too thin. Side effect of hormones? Anorexic?



She looks muscular off of hormone pills and she looks anorexic because her hair is thinning.
Good job bringing out that oxymoron.

I don't like the renders, but the in game screen shots appear as though they smoothed out the rough edges. She looks perfect in the in game screen shots.

I don't want TRL Lara to return, too pretty and I'm really starting to see why people called her Barbie. I wouldn't mind TRA Lara, but TRU Lara is just right.

Sweets
09-04-08, 22:54
She looks muscular off of hormone pills and she looks anorexic because her hair is thinning.
Good job bringing out that oxymoron.

I don't like the renders, but the in game screen shots appear as though they smoothed out the rough edges. She looks perfect in the in game screen shots.

I don't want TRL Lara to return, to pretty and I'm really starting to see why people called her Barbie. I wouldn't mind TRA Lara, but TRU Lara is just right.

I agree 100%:D

There is a few little things I hope they change about her ingame model though now that I think about it:

Her neck is a little short, it should be a little longer and more elegant looking
Longer Legs-CD's Lara is a little shorter than the other Laras but her legs should still be long and athletic

Shark_Blade
10-04-08, 01:56
http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

I like Lara in the screenshots, she looks vicious and fierce, ready to leap into battle and take no **** from anyone.:tmb:

The render I'm not too happy with, she looks very odd and old :o like a living skeleton:

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3557/page0wd8ow9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sweets
10-04-08, 02:03
^Alot of people agree with you ;)

ANoDE
10-04-08, 05:48
Well, I guess with a fanbase that big, there will be no way for CD to make Lara right for everyone. I've even read that some of you like Legend Lara best. Just browse through the Legend section of this forum and read about the thousands of complaints about her looking like a plastic doll.

Personally, I think Lara (or at least, what we've seen of her until now) looks great. I agree with most of you, that in the mugshot she looks a bit weird - but look at some pictures of your own taken in that angle and judge after that.

erosan
11-04-08, 03:31
i think she looks ok. i just wish they could go back to the ponytail. Her outfit is a huge improvement .

Just.tim
11-04-08, 04:07
lara is perfect. stop complaining or we wont get the damn game

she is FIERCCCEEE!! and i say that will all the tyra banks i can muster up


her lips are fuller and she has this evil stare i love it and if i was a woman id want her body she is fabulous she is not annorexic and if you think she is you obviously have never seen an anorexic and you think shes butch? im pretty sure shes going to need some muscle to get up those mountains and pull off those fine acrobatics, Stop being so picky and get over it

Rachel Croft
11-04-08, 04:16
somebody please start some NEW and EXCITING threads

WhiteTiger
11-04-08, 16:49
New shots are much better, and it looks to me they have change her face. Don't you think?

Compass
11-04-08, 16:55
Yes they did I guess she looks younger and better, only few thinks but not verry importent:
- her lips are to red (looks like she's wearing make-up like legend lara!)
- Her haircut makes her head looking tall ;)

WhiteTiger
11-04-08, 17:02
Anyway, looks like they did change something... looks a lot younger and better!

Thanks to all people who complained!

:ton:

Tigerman68
11-04-08, 17:20
New shots are much better, and it looks to me they have change her face. Don't you think?

I thought EXACTLY the same thing. The new pics look much different to me than the first renders and I like them 100% better.

JACOBryanBURNS
11-04-08, 17:20
Dear poster,

TOO BAD! I'm confused by all the incessant complaining. Obviously they're not going to fix something that isn't broken.

WhiteTiger
11-04-08, 17:25
Dear poster,

TOO BAD! I'm confused by all the incessant complaining. Obviously they're not going to fix something that isn't broken.


I think they did modify her face.

Muhammad
11-04-08, 17:49
Topic is outdated, Lara's Model has been changed drastically.

Stel4eto
11-04-08, 17:55
Topic is outdated, Lara's Model has been changed drastically.

Yeah, and in a bad way too!:(:mad:

Muhammad
11-04-08, 17:56
Yeah, and in a bad way too!:(:mad:
You're the person from that other thread who is getting flamed at the moment? :D

Compass
11-04-08, 18:04
They sure did made a change U hope everyone will be glad now?

WhiteTiger
11-04-08, 18:05
Updated model looks fantastic!

Muhammad
11-04-08, 18:43
They sure did made a change U hope everyone will be glad now?
No, not really, why?

marcocatena
11-04-08, 18:56
She looks Stunning, the only problem is her skin tone, I think it should be more darker :rolleyes: But then again she is "British" so I dont know... :confused:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/marcocatena/newlara-1.jpg

Kerrigan
11-04-08, 20:57
Wow, there is a new render from! Yeah, she definitely looks younger, though I can't tell what gives me that impression.It seems it's because of shading for the most part.

keviouk
11-04-08, 21:07
You're right marcocatena.
Maybe the environment and brightness will change her skin color.
Her new look is great anyway, she's as pretty as I expected :jmp:

aussie500
12-04-08, 00:09
She looks Stunning, the only problem is her skin tone, I think it should be more darker :rolleyes: But then again she is "British" so I dont know... :confused:




She is British and fair skinned, she is not meant to look like a bronze idol. She was only bronzed in Next gen Legend and the CGI Anniversary clip, hardly a precedent for making her look like it in all the new games.

findme
12-04-08, 00:14
she is FIERCCCEEE!! and i say that will all the tyra banks i can muster up




:vlol: :vlol:

Eddie Haskell
12-04-08, 00:19
She is British and fair skinned, she is not meant to look like a bronze idol. She was only bronzed in Next gen Legend and the CGI Anniversary clip, hardly a precedent for making her look like it in all the new games.

However one can assume that she is outdoors a lot, certainly not huddled in front of a computer screen eating Oreo's and drinking hot cocoa (like I am right now, heheheh). So she should have a healthy tan going, not bronzed mind you but definitely an athletic glow.

aussie500
12-04-08, 00:29
However one can assume that she is outdoors a lot, certainly not huddled in front of a computer screen eating Oreo's and drinking hot cocoa (like I am right now, heheheh). So she should have a healthy tan going, not bronzed mind you but definitely an athletic glow.

l slight tan is fine, and did seem to be missing in most games, but then maybe Lara is big on sunscreen. She would not want to look prematurely aged, got to protect that complexion.

WhiteTiger
12-04-08, 06:00
However one can assume that she is outdoors a lot, certainly not huddled in front of a computer screen eating Oreo's and drinking hot cocoa (like I am right now, heheheh). So she should have a healthy tan going, not bronzed mind you but definitely an athletic glow.

Stop complaining! :ton:

ACSSNK
12-04-08, 07:15
I think she looks gorgeous, and feminine too.

I don 't see any big cheekbones and giant jaws on the new renders.

WHAT DO YOU WANT? Moonface Sailor Moon? :D:D:D

LARA IS GREAT :)

Lara.Jolie7
12-04-08, 07:25
She is looking young and the girs she aways looks like
She looks health and ready for adventure
She looks amazing in the news renders

WhiteTiger
12-04-08, 07:30
I think she looks gorgeous, and feminine too.

I don 't see any big cheekbones and giant jaws on the new renders.

WHAT DO YOU WANT? Moonface Sailor Moon? :D:D:D

LARA IS GREAT :)

Yeah, everybody likes this new lara,...

Tear
12-04-08, 07:32
I couldn't have asked for a better model.:tmb:

I don't even think I would have made her look that beautiful if I was the one telling them what to do.:p

Jedd Fletcher
12-04-08, 10:36
The new renders completely blew me away. Just...wow! They're an awesome improvement on the ones we've seen earlier. Great stuff.

ANoDE
12-04-08, 11:59
I mean, I liked the old renders already - but the new ones are great!
CD made her younger (a bit) but not less fierce. She looks great i.m.o.

MaskedRaider
12-04-08, 14:01
I love the new renders - her face has more life to it, I think her lips are a better shape. I am now enthusiastic about the TRU model at last!

Angelus
12-04-08, 14:05
I don't like Lara in the new renders. She looks too young and sweet, like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.

Tokyo Jo
12-04-08, 15:18
She isn't too skinny.. so good role figure for young females who may play this game!!

Also her face is in proportion with the rest of her body.. as well as her assets.!!

Besides.. the screens that are out at the moment do not do Lara justice.. we will need to wait and see what she looks like in game before we can finally judge whether she is looking fierce or not :ohn: lol!!

Personally.. i loved how she looked in Legend.. much more than in Anniversary..!! This is sort of a cross between TRA,TRL and TR Classics..!! LOVE IT!!! :jmp::jmp:

mister_croft
12-04-08, 15:19
I liked the old Lara, now i Love the new one.
Love her body atitude, shouders back, very naughty, ready for action; a little like the Angelina Lara in the movies.

Love tha fact that is reminding me of Karima.

Larson_1988
12-04-08, 15:24
She looks like a doll now! :p

gtkilla
12-04-08, 15:27
She looks like a doll now! :p


All Laras look like dolls.

just*raidin*tomb
12-04-08, 20:36
She looks more mature than Legend, yet still young and beautiful. Probably the most gorgous Lara I've ever seen. How do you do CD? :wve:

NightWish
12-04-08, 20:53
And something with proportions just isn't right!!!

The head is too big for the body - that makes it unproportional. The old model's head size was better

Sekhraider
12-04-08, 21:10
I like how she's wearing pants. Thats cool. Only thing that Im noticing now is that because she's scaled down to show her whole body, for some reason she looks like Japanese anime kid...I dont know why though. Reminds me of when they did the new TMNT cartoon how kid-like the turtles looked as appose to their more muscular mature selves from the old cartoon.:)

WhiteTiger
13-04-08, 10:21
The head is too big for the body - that makes it unproportional. The old model's head size was better

Yes, but I said that for old model, and mostly because neck.
New model is way better.

And her head isn't too big for her body, I have just measure it.

cammy.
13-04-08, 14:30
I don't mind the sizing. I am sort of between thinking her body is a bit too skinny and thinking it is a good size. I don't know...absolutely love the model with pants. Probably be one of my favourites for sure. But in terms of the old and new Underworld model, I liked them both but I do like the new one a LOT more. Something wasn't right about her face on the old one.

NightWish
13-04-08, 14:38
Yes, but I said that for old model, and mostly because neck.
New model is way better.

And her head isn't too big for her body, I have just measure it.

and how many heads is the whole body?
It definetely looks too big. But strangely in one of the renders it doesnt :vlol:

No_more_bullets
13-04-08, 19:19
I think she looks great; beautiful and fierce. :tmb:

http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

:cln:

I love this one, and the one of her hanging over a pit of thorns, though the new renders don't captivate me much at all, i'd really like to see her in action to judge her fairly.

KIKO
13-04-08, 20:18
I think that now she doesn't look like a 45 years old woman. Also it has something from Anniversary like a hair cut or something and a touch from the past.;)

WhiteTiger
13-04-08, 22:42
and how many heads is the whole body?
It definetely looks too big. But strangely in one of the renders it doesnt :vlol:

Yeah, depends from which angle, and which pose she have..

If we imagine she have straight stand (don't know is that right english term), then she have 7 heads in her proportion.

takamotosan
26-05-08, 04:14
personally, i think she's beautiful.

though AoD's gameplay was buggy and irritating, i loved the storyline and the overall tone of the game, including lara's hardened persona.

underworld seems to be heading in the direction of AoD, in that it will be a darker game.

i think lara looks like a woman who has been through a LOT in her life.

i love her angular features.

buffytabor
26-05-08, 05:18
I much prefer Legend Lara. TRA was an ok change and Underworld is ok too. I don't hate it really. I think it's a big change from Legend. But it's ok...it's all good. It's still Lara.

lisa_croft
26-05-08, 09:47
She looks great. Grown up as the consoles got better.

TR93
26-05-08, 09:58
I like her new look. Although I still like the TRA Lara ,the best so far in my opinion. But her new look is so realistic!

19Kegan19
27-05-08, 18:23
I think she looks pretty good. The only I'd fix is the eyes. I usually think of Lara as having big eyes, Like the originals.

Melonie Tomb Raider
27-05-08, 18:29
Too top heavy, but she's always been anyway. :p

Love the ponytail. :D

RAID
27-05-08, 18:35
http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

This shot, is the best Lara picture I've ever seen. I hope she stays like this in the final version of the game, and that they don't turn her into the smiling doll/crying balloon ready to explode in tears at any second she was in Legend/Anniversary.

Fierce and tough looking are what her looks are about. I just hope she lives up to this image.

And I still vote for the Anniversary braid.

lisa_croft
27-05-08, 18:37
personally, i think she's beautiful.

though AoD's gameplay was buggy and irritating, i loved the storyline and the overall tone of the game, including lara's hardened persona.

underworld seems to be heading in the direction of AoD, in that it will be a darker game.

i think lara looks like a woman who has been through a LOT in her life.

i love her angular features.

Yeah i agree with you here. I like her look but then again i don't. i dunno. put a blue top on her and i'll probs be happy :D

Welcome to the forums by the way:hug:

n00b raider
27-05-08, 18:40
Too top heavy, but she's always been anyway. :p

Love the ponytail. :D

I liked her a little better with her chest smaller. But I think they're still smaller than Legend and Anni, if by a little bit.
Something about Anni Lara's figure bothered me so much.

But I want the braid still. That was one thing I like about Anni.

iamlaracroft
27-05-08, 18:55
I didn't know C r o f t was a swearword! :eek: :p

LOL

to the OP:

couldn't agree with you more. I don't like the direction they've taken Lara...Somehow the essence of the original Lara was lost in transition from pixelated to next generation :(

ECB
27-05-08, 19:18
The new renders look better, but I love the girly looking Lara.

No_more_bullets
27-05-08, 19:43
http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

This shot, is the best Lara picture I've ever seen. I hope she stays like this in the final version of the game, and that they don't turn her into the smiling doll/crying balloon ready to explode in tears at any second she was in Legend/Anniversary.

Fierce and tough looking are what her looks are about. I just hope she lives up to this image.

And I still vote for the Anniversary braid.

Yeah, optional braid please!!

Aphrodite22
27-05-08, 21:32
i love her face! in the old model she looks ugly but the new one
its absolutely PERFECT! :yik::yik::yik:

ugly
http://www.laracroft.name/gallery/albums/laracroft/08/normal_04.jpg
pretty!
http://www.gamixa.com/i/2008/04/lara-croft-underworld.jpg

ClrMap
27-05-08, 22:23
WHATEVER!!!! Lara looks fine as hell!

croft94
27-05-08, 22:57
WHATEVER!!!! Lara looks fine as hell!

yeah i know right?:vlol:

Quanain
27-05-08, 23:02
She is gorgeous! Bustier too. :D

kryptonite23
28-05-08, 09:39
She looks beautiful now :) :cln:

jeffrey van oort
28-05-08, 11:38
She looks pale and terrible..
I hope the lightning effects are never white because lara is white enough.. make her have a tan.. she has been to egypt for crying out loud and you expect her to be pale like that ever again? what are you kidding?:D come on.. focus people.

Lara Croft Fan Joe
28-05-08, 12:08
I think she looks great, she looks like Lara. I think more detail could be added to her lips though, and they should not be that red. The pants outfit is awesome too. I do wish they would make her just a little less top-heavy though.

Herra
28-05-08, 15:36
The jaw is too strong, too masculine.

Aphrodite22
28-05-08, 21:18
She looks pale and terrible..
I hope the lightning effects are never white because lara is white enough.. make her have a tan.. she has been to egypt for crying out loud and you expect her to be pale like that ever again? what are you kidding?:D come on.. focus people.


PALE?! r u serious!


http://www.gamixa.com/i/2008/04/lara-croft-underworld.jpg
l
mao shes not pale

ben croft
28-05-08, 21:58
http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg



Please, I want THIS Lara in the final game. :tmb:

:wve:

Sweets
28-05-08, 22:05
^I know me too, best model yet IMO

Shark_Blade
29-05-08, 05:22
Aphrodite: She's gorgeous...:cln: But I'm torn in the middle with the pic Riv posted. I want her to be a wild kickass babe as well.

ChingKong
29-05-08, 05:43
im good with whatever they give us, i just cant wait! :D

rowanlim
29-05-08, 07:32
She looks tougher & stronger in TRU. I like it ;)

sandygrimm
07-06-08, 20:02
She does look tough and strong, but also old :( My oppinion... they could of kept the legend look but the one they used in the commercials. the high tech young fresh face.
oh! ..and she does look kind of dark, dunno' why, she just does

The hero..
07-06-08, 20:21
http://i30.************/14awjmo.jpg http://i32.************/2rdx3cl.jpg

she's gorgous :)

Aphrodite22
07-06-08, 21:12
http://i30.************/14awjmo.jpg http://i32.************/2rdx3cl.jpg

she's gorgous :)


indeed :)

KC Mraz
07-06-08, 21:20
And have the best body ever.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/badreputation/scan0001.jpg

H-O-T :cln:

The hero..
07-06-08, 21:23
And have the best body ever.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/badreputation/scan0001.jpg

H-O-T :cln:

i can't actually beleive how realistic she has become

her skin looks so soft and real

her clothes look like real fabric

her hair looks realistic

she's great !

matrix54
07-06-08, 21:32
when next gen come out(after the period where in(I give it 5-8 years), she'd better look REAL. have you seen the jump from early ps1(tr1) to late ps1(tr5) to early ps2(aod) to late ps2(legend) to NOW!!(ps3/UNDERWORLD) gasp!!:eek:

TRLegendLuver
07-06-08, 21:33
Lara has really developed since 1996, and I pray that it will only continue. I am glad that Crystal Dynamics is working on Tomb Raider, they have done a tremendous job at restoring Lara to her full potential glory. She looks amazing in Tomb Raider: Underworld, I didn't care for her face too much in Tomb Raider: Anniversary but however, in Tomb Raider: Legend, she was stunning, even with all the goop. haha ;)
To anyone who think she looks masculine is just plain strange, because now, more than ever, she looks feminine, and has reached her stunning looks through Crystal Dynmanics and the next-generation game console system.

klarc
18-06-08, 15:45
She's definitely looking a lot better than that earlier Neanderthal model (still! appearing around the place...) however the eyebrows are lacking character, they should be darker and there should be a bit of a kink in there, instead of just having them looking like slugs.

xXhayleyroxXx
18-06-08, 16:07
lol slug eyebrows :ton: ^^^

i love how her body looks very realistic and much like that of average woman her age :)
its definately a difference from the pointy boobs hahahha
shes also gone from being an "hourglass" shape to being "pear-shaped"

i still love all the games :)
xxxxxxxx

Woop Legend!
18-06-08, 16:10
I think she looks amazing to be honest :)

sweetPoison
25-07-08, 22:59
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/badreputation/scan0001.jpg

I think her feet are quite big and man-like.:D They look like paddles...all the better for swimming, I guess.:confused:

But her body is, ahem, looking quite fine! Quite magnificent...:D

Melonie Tomb Raider
25-07-08, 23:02
http://i30.************/14awjmo.jpg http://i32.************/2rdx3cl.jpg

she's gorgous :)

Her lips look kind of funky, but she's still gorgeous. I love it that CD have reverted back to her classic, square shaped face, it's so sophisticated!

She looked ghastly in TRA. Light bulb shaped face with a looong, skinny chin. Eww.

Henpen
25-07-08, 23:10
http://i30.************/14awjmo.jpg http://i32.************/2rdx3cl.jpg

she's gorgous :)

HOT STUFF!

In the TRA trailer she was gorge but not otherwise. I do like the fiesty feel to her tho.


Only point - her hair should be afew shades darker

AmericanAssassin
25-07-08, 23:16
I think she looks great; beautiful and fierce. :tmb:

http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg :cln:

Sexiest Lara Croft ever! :cln:

ccroft2003
25-07-08, 23:19
I LOVE how she looks here in-game. I really hope they don't change this.
http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

CalCooChi
25-07-08, 23:24
That for me always looked like how Lara should be.

Lara looks ditzy with the breathing mask on in those magazine scans. As if she felt rather bewildered by it.

YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG :p

Danath
25-07-08, 23:52
People were complaining about Lara's look, and Crystal have brought classic Lara back:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/george_ganno/screen002_nm.jpg

Fierce eyes, full lips, petite nose, high cheekbones, well-shaped jawline, huge boobs. Its Lara *****.

I agree 100%! :tmb: It's a very interesting comparison! The gap in time between those two images is great, but I can see her being the same old and sexy Lara we all know, but improved hundreds of times since TR2. :D

So far I'm loving her, as I have always done. ;) Beautiful yet fierce and ready to kick ass (this time also with a stick :p).

TRBeth
26-07-08, 00:23
The current model is beautiful, but the previous one (picture above) was perfect. Yes, that other Lara looked like she had some experience under her gun-belt, which is what she she should look like. She also looked liked someone who was a force to be reckoned with. The current model, while beautiful, is not nearly as interesting or deadly. Actually, she looks more like a supermodel than an adventurer.

Larapink
26-07-08, 01:55
I think she looks great; beautiful and fierce. :tmb:

http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpg

:cln:
She kinda looks like a man there. :p

Laras Lil Bro
26-07-08, 01:59
She kinda looks like a man there. :p

lol what men are u looking at?!?!?!?!

Larapink
26-07-08, 02:01
lol what men are u looking at?!?!?!?!
Lara in the picture that is in the quote, duh. :p

CalCooChi
26-07-08, 02:32
Lara in the picture that is in the quote, duh. :p

What he meant was, what Men have you seen that would resemble that?

Not what picture you were reffering to.

Melonie Tomb Raider
26-07-08, 02:34
She kinda looks like a man there. :p

Yeah, I think so too. :p

larafan25
26-07-08, 04:18
Its tooo bad that lara doesnt look like that first pic of lara posted(underworld lara)

Tear
26-07-08, 06:44
Guys, CD already changed the model. Don't make them believe they made a mistake. She looks fine now.;)

xxitsxnadyaxx
26-07-08, 07:37
tru's first lara model pics made me go "AAAAAAAH! WTH??? Who the f*** is THAT??!"
i hated them so much! she looked 80! of course they improved her a bit and it calmed me down :)
but in some shots i still kinda go "meh..."
oh well
nothing we can do about it now!

khFREAK
26-07-08, 12:11
I love the new screens of her. I'd turn leso for her :)

robm_2007
26-07-08, 16:41
lara looks great!

xx_Hunt_xx
26-07-08, 17:05
I quite like the TRU Lara, it shows her age and it just wouldnt be right if they kept her in her 20s for so long. Shes always changed in some way in every game. I just cant wait for TRU to come out, cos most of it isnt finshed so Lara might look comlety diff to how we think shes going to be by the pics we see.

thevman
26-07-08, 17:15
Guys, CD already changed the model. Don't make them believe they made a mistake. She looks fine now.;)

Does she look like your avatar? :mis: Because that looks HOT!!! :yah: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/image.php?u=29857&dateline=1217081154

KurtisLonely
26-07-08, 17:18
I LOVE how she looks here in-game. I really hope they don't change this.
http://i25.************/2dl3l81.jpgI simply love this render! I hope she looks like this in-game :D