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MattTR
06-05-08, 02:44
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned or not, but I certainly haven't read anything on it up to this point. Well anyways, who here would like an online mode for Tomb Raider: Underworld?

For me, I'd say yes. But only if it doesn't effect the actual game itself. Of course, as a long time fan of the series, I realize it isn't exactly what the main intention for tomb raiding originally was, but it would certainly appeal to broader audiences. A few online mini-games here in there wouldn't hurt, and we may even get a chance to see some of the older characters such as Larson, Sophia, or perhaps even Kurtis in multi-player games.

Please don't bite me! :o

What are your two cents on this, guys and gals? :wve:

KC Mraz
06-05-08, 02:50
It's confirmed that there will be not online game :).


I don't know, I don't see TR as a multiplayer game. But if they make one I'll play it for sure, it can be fun!.

AmericanAssassin
06-05-08, 03:14
Anybody who says no is crazy. Even if it sucked, it would surely boost sales because people love online stuff. Hopefully, we could have some of those Tomb Trials the PSP version got. :mis:

Evan C.
06-05-08, 03:31
No,absolutely not.

Tear
06-05-08, 03:34
I don't think so. I'd rather have them focus on the single-player experience.

Carbonek_0051
06-05-08, 04:09
If they did it right they could

Mr K
06-05-08, 04:17
If they made a separate online experience where we can customise our faces, outfits and abilities like an RPG, in a world where we can either have rival arcaeological teams (or loners or duos or whatever), mercenaries, sponsors, cult members etc; where we can trade, collect or steal artefacts then that would be cool

BUT

It cannot be part of the single experience adventures of Lara Croft.

From the short description I made of what would be a fantastic game for all us Tomb Raiders you can see that a) it doesn't sound like Tomb Raider b)it's a completely different franchise altogether.

So if they want to make an online component go for it - just make it separate to Lara's adventures.

SamReeves
06-05-08, 04:19
No. I think for sports or Star Trek, online mode is great. But for Tomb Raider? Nah.

aussie500
06-05-08, 05:22
Online play is something l have no interest in, l have no objections to it but l really do not see how you could have a Tomb Raider game with online play.

Now perhaps they could do something with an online level creation type thing, Tomb Raider World for single or co-op play, they at least would get the interest of the level builders as well as the people who want extra's online. Some could build them, others could play them. Even something like a time trial leader board or some other player stats type thing, could generate some interest. But for me l am happy with the usual single player game l put in the console and play.

ChrisIVX
06-05-08, 06:07
There are games that shouldn't be multiplayer. Tomb Raider is one of them. All I can think of to do is to race through a tomb TR4 style, which admittedly might be fun if you could pull levers etc to hamper the other guy. Deathmatches are out because it's just not right. Capture the Artifact would be silly. Online puzzle solving ala Uru: Ages Beyond Myst could work, except there can be only one Lara, so it wouldn't.

I love multiplayer games, but I buy Tomb Raider for Lara, the puzzles, the bosses and the plot, not for shooting other Laras.

Cochrane
06-05-08, 06:58
Tomb Raider is not inherently suited to multiplayer, so one would have to look at how the game could be changed.

I don't think Deathmatch would work. TR is not a game with lots of tactic shooting elements, but it is a game where you spend lots of time hanging around on ledges (even before Legend) and being defenseless.

Obvious choices would be some kind of race (think back to TR4 for an example), or, my personal favorite, cooperative puzzle solving similar to Sven Coop (which you all probably don't know) or Lego Star Wars. Both would require new or at least significantly altered levels to work well, of course.

I don't think that there really is a problem with "everyone wants to be Lara" at all. There are a couple of other characters, and there is a huge amount of available outfits that make a large number of Laras still easy to tell apart. Identifying with your character in a multiplayer game is difficult anyway, so I don't think it would be too much of a problem.

In short, I think that it could be an interesting game if done correctly. However, TR is not a game that has a very obvious multiplayer interpretation.

kryptonite23
06-05-08, 07:01
I don't want an online mode. ;)

JamesFKirk
06-05-08, 07:14
Nope. TR is not a good material for any kind of multiplayer. Developing such a thing would be essentially a waste of time and money, since not many players would really use it (and so it would bring little or no extra profit from sales), and uncareful implementation could be very risky and damaging to the franchise.

Carbonek_0051
06-05-08, 07:20
If GTA4 can do it why not TR?

yeah they aren't the same types of games...

But You wouldn't expect online from either

ChrisIVX
06-05-08, 07:23
GTA IV's a sandbox though. What better excuse is there than to be able to grab a friend and blow up lots of cars together?

Rivendell
06-05-08, 07:33
Obvious choices would be some kind of race (think back to TR4 for an example)

I think that could work :tmb: It'd be quite cool too. We've not exactly had many proper 'race' levels in TR (Race on foot levels anyway), and it's something that could work online I suppose.

Or perhaps just as a multiplayer, because it could go a bit mental to see 20+ characters try and run past each other in cramped corridors and climb up things at essentially the same time.

-Roli-
06-05-08, 08:00
Absolutely NO! :)

MiCkiZ88
06-05-08, 08:31
Yes, I would love to have some sort of online gameplay modes. Heck, I wouldn't mind a deatmatch either just for the fun of it. Doesn't suit tr? Who cares? It's optional anyways and you don't have to play online. Though I'm only for online gameplay modes if it doesn't hurt the development of an interesting storyline and locations. But it is possible to have both.

Angelus
06-05-08, 08:58
Yes! Online multiplayer = made of win. :tmb:

Endow
06-05-08, 09:05
Multiplayer? No way. This is about me raiding tombs, alone.

Angelus
06-05-08, 09:07
Multiplayer? No way. This is about me raiding tombs, alone.

It's not like you have to play online. It's just an option for people to use should they wish to do so. :)

MiCkiZ88
06-05-08, 09:11
It's not like you have to play online. It's just an option for people to use should they wish to do so. :)I wish more people would get that. You are not forced to play online, it is just an bonus. A much better bonus than a warddrobe full of pink outfits, IMO. :p

Endow
06-05-08, 09:16
There should be a criteria for choosing stuff to put in a game. Otherwise it's just an amalgam of interesting/cool stuff.

If it doesn't fit the concept of TR then it should not be in the game. I wish more people would get that ;)

EscondeR
06-05-08, 09:17
Hell NO! As much as a wardrobe of pink outfits...
And many people here explained why :mis: Both ruin the sense of TOMB RAIDING totally!!!

Alex Fly
06-05-08, 09:18
No ! :wve:

Obscure
06-05-08, 09:30
I think (if they decide to include time trials) that a time trials board would be quite good :) Other than that because Tomb Raider isn't a combat heavy game nor a FPS, It'd be odd. Unless they did it so that they hid an Artifact in a randomised area and everyone is fighing to find it first. This could only work though if the area's are Jumanji sized :D

Reggie
06-05-08, 10:25
Me and some TRF friends Tomb Raiding with or against each other? It'd be bloody brilliant, I think. :tmb:

Kamnelomo
06-05-08, 10:26
With 9999999999 Laras shooting at eachother at the same moment?

Hell no.

john_york
06-05-08, 10:37
I'd like it, perhaps with different game modes?

Racing against opponents to get through a level (different people starting at different points and taking different routes) to get to an artifact first.

Death match type game where lots of players shoot the bejeezus out of each other - all playing as different characters from TR (Kurtis, Natla, Winston for example).

Collaborative raiding, two or three people working together to complete a series of online-exclusive tombs.


What I definitely want is extra downloadable content, whether that be extensions to existing levels, new levels, new artifacts to find in existing levels, outfits etc. Stuff! I want stuff!

Lenochka
06-05-08, 10:48
Nah, TR just doesn't seem like an online "shoot at your friends" type game.

Now maybe an online mode for playing new levels and stuff off the website, sure... but multiplayer and TR just don't seem to mix xD

Dingaling
06-05-08, 11:16
Deffo - especially iuf they just use the PSP multiplayer and make it online (as I've said 14,000,000 times before)!

Maybe if that isn't possible, maybe some sort of leaderboards would be better? Fastest time (per level and overall), medipacks used, least enemy kills, secrets collected... stuff like that.

bloodstormaoa
06-05-08, 11:19
^ A "leaderboard" sort of thing would be absolutely perfect :tmb:

MattTR
06-05-08, 12:37
Great ideas people! But I'm seeing alot of no's. :( If you say no can you guys give a reason why? I mean this would be totally optional, and seperate from the main game. Plus, we could even play with all of our friends here on TRF! :D

Compass
06-05-08, 12:39
would be cool like Team A and Team B and you need to solve the puzzle in time or a capture the flag game? ore Hide and Seek game? :D

rowanlim
06-05-08, 13:19
No. Lara & TR has always been about "doing things yourself", a solo trek (with the exception of Kurtis :p), so no, I rather not have an online mode :tmb: ;)

jeffrey van oort
06-05-08, 13:21
It's confirmed that there will be not online game :).


I don't know, I don't see TR as a multiplayer game. But if they make one I'll play it for sure, it can be fun!.
It will be fun my friend;)

jaywalker
06-05-08, 13:51
TombRaider tournament.

You all play `against` Lara, in that you all play tombraiders, and have to get to the treasure before each other.

ClrMap
06-05-08, 14:05
Yes, I mentioned this in another thread. An online mode, but a slightly more unique concept. If TRU or an extension would allow each user to design a puzzle or complete level in a certain location (e.g. underwater, France, South America, etc). Each person could register their puzzle/level in a certain location just like a website on the world wide web. This would essentially make a fan-based Tomb Raider game that is ongoing. It would appeal to broader audiences, but real fans as well (the big shot level editors). I am surprised that this hasn't become apart of the franchise yet as it is obviously the next step. CD and Eidos can still put out specific adventures, but people would always have access to new adventures in Lara's world. Any feedback on this?

Megalith
06-05-08, 14:33
An online mode for Tomb Raider will probably end up as a shooter game (something like Uncharted) and it won't "feel" like a Tomb Raider game.I'm sure though that some fans will love something like that,especially fans that are new to the series and in general it may help the franchise.
Personally i'd love to see some DLC (some level or mansion expansions would be nice) that really adds more to the game and it's not just for decoration (extra costumes).

Rexie
06-05-08, 16:40
errm, ei kiitos... :wve:

(no thanks)

thevman
06-05-08, 16:55
I don't have any desire to take TR online to play against any other players, TR has always been a solitary type of game for me.

But, if online would give us endless new environments and levels and adventures to play... then yes, I'd go online.

Eddie Haskell
06-05-08, 17:18
Online play is something l have no interest in, l have no objections to it but l really do not see how you could have a Tomb Raider game with online play.

Now perhaps they could do something with an online level creation type thing, Tomb Raider World for single or co-op play, they at least would get the interest of the level builders as well as the people who want extra's online. Some could build them, others could play them. Even something like a time trial leader board or some other player stats type thing, could generate some interest. But for me l am happy with the usual single player game l put in the console and play.

This is an interesting concept. I have a similar idea as well. this topic has been mentioned numerous times.

Of course, Tomb Raider is a single player game with a singularly identifiable female as it's solo star. I was thinking about creating an online/multi-player experience along the theme of the game. Call it "Tomb Raiders" or "Tomb Raider: The Challenge" or something like that and have game worlds exactly like the ones created for Lara. Except that 4 man/woman teams compete to complete the levels. Have stock male/female characters that can be modified somewhat, assign them physical and skill capabilities within a team concept and start the adventure. No NPC's (save animals, any supernaturals beings or bosses), just you and your teammates vs the other team to collect the artifact or complete the goal.

I would shell out mucho bucks for this one.

robm_2007
06-05-08, 17:20
that would seem cool. like if at her mansion in her dirt track, you could race on quads. i know what youre thinking, oh! racing? thats not tomb raider! well, its just a minigame. or an on foot race to find an artifact in a level or something

MrBear
06-05-08, 17:21
With 9999999999 Laras shooting at eachother at the same moment?

Hell no.

'Cause that is the only way it could turn out... :)

I agree, though, that there are many ways it could go wrong.. But there are almost as many ways it could be great, so I'm all for it :tmb:

Edit: why am I not surprised, Mr V? :p

thevman
06-05-08, 17:22
*shoots imposter laras in back* http://www.storagebin.us/smilies/smilies/shoot.gif

aussie500
06-05-08, 20:42
With 9999999999 Laras shooting at eachother at the same moment?

Hell no.

That is easily solved, have stock models for other characters such as Kurtis, Larson etc, but if you want to play as Lara you have to design your own, with a large choice of outfits. Most likely some would look nothing like Lara, but even those that did would all be different.

remote91
06-05-08, 20:46
If they gave it enough thought and came up with some good ideas then I think it could have worked.

MoonSword
06-05-08, 20:51
My opinion is that I can't answer to this question. For me, the first question would be: "What is an on-line mode for TR? What does it consist in?". According to the answer, I could eventually say yay or nay.
The challenge there is to imagine what would be an on-line mode. Many Laras cooperating? Hell, no.
You know something better?

Drone
06-05-08, 20:56
absolutely don't need it

ben croft
06-05-08, 20:59
YES is my answer!

:wve:

scion05
06-05-08, 21:21
I'd love one, deffo :)

george_croft
06-05-08, 21:34
If they figure out a way to fit it into the game, and if they have that kind of time on their hands, then sure I'd love it.:)

oocladableeblah
06-05-08, 22:07
Maybe if it's done correctly. I would like a race for an artifact.

Larapink
06-05-08, 22:14
Yeah why not?

I would like to see an Xbox 360 live version that would be interesting.

KIKO
06-05-08, 22:17
It could be interesting indeed. Like forming teams or shooting alone. Everyone with their outfits, characters, etc. Great Idea :tmb:

trXD
06-05-08, 22:29
I think its a great idea

ajrich17901
06-05-08, 22:34
I have no interests in online games so no definetly not

tranniversary119
06-05-08, 23:18
I don't see why not maybe have an arena with a bunch of Lara's running around throwing spears, etc.. :vlol: There really is no way for Multiplayer tbh..

Quasimodo
06-05-08, 23:21
Maybe if it's done correctly. I would like a race for an artifact.

Imagine how fun it would be to shove other tomb raiders off ledges on your way to goal :p

Carbonek_0051
06-05-08, 23:29
I have no interests in online games so no definetly not

Ok but what about others who want to play online?

It's not all about you ya know?

ajrich17901
07-05-08, 11:22
Ok but what about others who want to play online?

It's not all about you ya know?

If cd are smart theyll keep it offline. if they make TR a joke wit the whole online thing i will have no problem leavin the series behind for good.

But in reality there wont be an online mode so im happy:ton:

MiCkiZ88
07-05-08, 11:34
Online is an online mode, it isn't necessary to play it as it is just an additional bonus. Why would it make TR an joke? Multiplayer mode could actually boost it's popularity if done correctly. And so what if it isn't in the ''concept'' of TR? Big deal.

As for the billion Lara's. Well you could always customize your model, or by default the enemies will look different. They have their own model, but to you it looks like some mercenary or thug or something.

ajrich17901
07-05-08, 11:56
Online is an online mode, it isn't necessary to play it as it is just an additional bonus. Why would it make TR an joke? Multiplayer mode could actually boost it's popularity if done correctly. And so what if it isn't in the ''concept'' of TR? Big deal.

As for the billion Lara's. Well you could always customize your model, or by default the enemies will look different. They have their own model, but to you it looks like some mercenary or thug or something.

Does it realy matter what i think? not realy so yea

Endow
07-05-08, 11:57
For all the bashing some of you guys are known for, when it comes to Crystal's TRs, I would expect you to see this clearly. Online doesn't fit TR, the spirit of the game.

Zebra
07-05-08, 17:50
I don't care.

Eddie Haskell
07-05-08, 18:07
For all the bashing some of you guys are known for, when it comes to Crystal's TRs, I would expect you to see this clearly. Online doesn't fit TR, the spirit of the game.

I agree. However, extracting Lara from the game format itself would allow for a great multi-player experience. Instead of teaming up in typical online/multi player methodology to kill and kill again, one could team up to defeat puzzles, solve deadly traps and ultimately achieve the stated goal. I believe that there are two viable and exciting possibilities here:

The first would be similar to the manner in which the game Diablo is executed. A team of specialists work together through a very robust game exactly like the present Tomb Raider games; needing teamwork to solve complex puzzles, defeat traps and fight enemies, leading to the climax of retrieving the artifact/solving the end goal. All kinds of options exist to assign roles and character traits to these specialists. I think that a team of 3-4 players would be best.

A second would be pitting two teams in a contest against one another to complete the game. It would be similar to my previous game suggestion, with the added dimension of conflict between the teams.

I know that I would play and enjoy this type of game. My wife and I have talked about such a possibility for a long time.

x2crazyidiot
08-05-08, 19:48
If cd are smart theyll keep it offline. if they make TR a joke wit the whole online thing i will have no problem leavin the series behind for good.

But in reality there wont be an online mode so im happy:ton:

I seriously doubt an online mode will turn TR into a joke. Quite the contrary actually. I mean, look at how well GTAIV's online mode has been received.


The first would be similar to the manner in which the game Diablo is executed. A team of specialists work together through a very robust game exactly like the present Tomb Raider games; needing teamwork to solve complex puzzles, defeat traps and fight enemies, leading to the climax of retrieving the artifact/solving the end goal. All kinds of options exist to assign roles and character traits to these specialists. I think that a team of 3-4 players would be best.

A second would be pitting two teams in a contest against one another to complete the game. It would be similar to my previous game suggestion, with the added dimension of conflict between the teams.

Wow. If CD made an online mode like that, I don't think I'd ever play another game again.
How can people look at these ideas and not be excited at the thought of making your own Tomb Raider and playing a treasured game with people around the world?

ChrisIVX
08-05-08, 20:55
How about they just license Nintendo to include her in the next Super Smash Brothers, and leave it at that? They already have Solid Snake after all, and Tomb Raider Anniversary is now a Wii game.

*Fantasises about Lara vs Snake*

......

Encore
08-05-08, 23:10
Kinda irrelevant to me. I never played any game online. If there's ever a TR multiplayer game I just hope that the creative energies aren't all sucked into it, leaving the single player mode poorer. Because I can't see myself playing TR in any other way than all by myself.

Stel4eto
09-05-08, 00:09
Two cents for No - waste of time. If people want to shoot at somebody why not bring back Winston with the tray:p.

MrBear
09-05-08, 09:06
Two cents for No - waste of time. If people want to shoot at somebody why not bring back Winston with the tray:p.

First of all, shooting at someone is only one option out of many.. Secondly, there's a world of difference between shooting at AI Winston and shooting at TRF people :)

Endow
09-05-08, 11:35
I agree. However, extracting Lara from the game format itself would allow for a great multi-player experience. Instead of teaming up in typical online/multi player methodology to kill and kill again, one could team up to defeat puzzles, solve deadly traps and ultimately achieve the stated goal. I believe that there are two viable and exciting possibilities here:

The first would be similar to the manner in which the game Diablo is executed. A team of specialists work together through a very robust game exactly like the present Tomb Raider games; needing teamwork to solve complex puzzles, defeat traps and fight enemies, leading to the climax of retrieving the artifact/solving the end goal. All kinds of options exist to assign roles and character traits to these specialists. I think that a team of 3-4 players would be best.

A second would be pitting two teams in a contest against one another to complete the game. It would be similar to my previous game suggestion, with the added dimension of conflict between the teams.

I know that I would play and enjoy this type of game. My wife and I have talked about such a possibility for a long time.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun. I'm saying it wouldn't be a TR game anymore.

tampi
09-05-08, 11:58
I don't know how this could work:confused:. If they make a online mode does not matter to me, it's good :).
Perhaps it could be restricted, for example, to solve puzzles of her mansion, a kind of competition mode to see who solves it in the smaller possible time. In any case I would be shocked to have to compete against somebody like @Tomb Raider Master :yik::whi:, for example. He could finish two minutes before than I.:D
Could be interesting a cooperative mode to solve puzzles in joint form, between two or more players ( you move this mechanism while I enter in the room for push that box....), but that would change all the structure of the game. :confused:

Eddie Haskell
09-05-08, 14:10
I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun. I'm saying it wouldn't be a TR game anymore.

Yes, and no. Yes in the sense that it would be environmentally, atmospherically and methodologically played the same as the TR game system. But no in the sense of not having Lara and all that she brings to the table, and adding a teamwork system to the equation.

And damn right it would be fun. Who wouldn't want to play themselves in a Tomb Raider game? Perhaps they could include an Oblivion-like character creation component so that every player could look unique and individualized. And the teamwork concept is the most exciting. Imagine a puzzle that required 4 players to perform some feat unique to their specialty to complete. Imagine traps that require timing and team assistance to overcome. Imagine powerful enemies that necessitate true cooperation to kill.

All in all the concept is sound and exciting. Is it Tomb Raider? That depends on you. And really it's a moot point. The game would stand on it's own two feet. And perhaps take the concept to a new level.