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TombRaiderTim
22-06-08, 14:48
Many mysteries are found behind the atlantean race and many people are well into the evolution of the race aswell as the many types which are included on TR1. This, is the official thread for the atlantean lovers to share their ideas and storys which they have learned about these creatures.

The Atlanteans

There are some unique types of atlanteans on TR1 and they will always be remembered by TR1 fans.

Bandaged Atlantean/Cat Mummy

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9127/mummyzq8.png

The first encounter of the atlanteans was when the player enters The Tomb Of Qualopec then again in Egypt and in some sense the two pieces of the scion awakes the dead in which are the bandaged atlanteans said to be the guardians of all Burial areas of the three rulers of atlantis, Natla, Qualopec & Tihocan.

These sort of atlanteans have a more friendlier appearence somewhat and stays motionless until the player approaches them in which triggers them to life. They act in the same way as the Mutant Atlanteans using fireballs to rid of intruders.

Atlantean Mutants/ Skinless Atlanteans

http://www.freewebz.com/natla/jump.gif http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/catlantean/AIM/flying.gif

A more fearful version of the atlanteans is the skinless mutant, similar to the bandaged atlantean, it can fire fireballs but also it can fire electric bolts too. There are two versionsof this atlantean, one which runs around and another which has a rather sporting pair of wings in which this form is known to knock players down to their doom.

The flying mutant is said to be a more developed mutant than the original one without wings or so should mean that the certain egg/pod was given more energy from the scion to evolve it to much higer stages and so is said from the other mutants too as it starts as a normal atlantean, then could be evolved to a winged atlantean, then to a centuar and then torso.

These mutants are classed as the ones to guard the enterance to atlantis and the great pyramid. They were introduced into the game when Natla uses the power of the scion to ressurect them. They hatch from huge pods which resembles giant yellow eggs and shows the time to hatch when the arm devices on the egg move.

Centaur Atlantean

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/catlantean/AIM/cent_running.gif

This atlantean is far more different and more lethal that the other atlanteans, mainly resembling a normal centaur, it could mean that a centaur could have been combined together with atlantean dna to form a more tougher and suitable warrior for the atlantean race.

As soon as this atlantean catches you in it's sight, it will fire fireballs continuesly until Lara is dead or you become out of range of the atlanteans sight. It only can fire fireballs and no bolts but is indeed a lot tougher than any other atlantean except for the torso.

Torso Atlantean

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4586/mutantti4.png

Many to believe that this atlantean is an unfinished version of a new breed of atlanteans as lara tampered with the scion before it had time to develop fully in which triggered all eggs in the great pyramid to hatch earlier than it was programmed for.

Natla was going to use this type of breed as a warrior which was though in a further time ahead if Natla lived on, she would have created more of these breeds but made sure they were completly developed to form the perfect army.

Atlantean Lara/Bacon Lara

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/catlantean/AIM/fem_run.gif

There is a very unique atlantean which was created by Natla which is a doppleganger of lara or some people could even say a skinless twin. This atlantean is yet perfectly harmless and dangerous at the same time, It may be that Natla somehow collected some dna of lara (maybe hair) and combined it with the dna of an atlantean therefore explaining why bacon lara knows what move lara is going to perform next.

Fireball/Goo Sack

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/2982/fireballhi5.png

This is the so called "fireball" which is fired by almost all atlanteans except for the Torso but has now been discovered that what the atlanteans fire is not a fireball, but a Goo Sack which contains bone fragments of the atlanteans, it then ignites when it goes into contact to something hard thus shattering the sack and sending out an explosion.

The location of where the atlanteans fire the sack is on the contraption on their right arm, otherwise known as a fireball launcher to most people in this case. The centuars seem to be capable of firing more of the goo sack's in a certain amount of time than any other atlantean breed.

This information (Except the second paragraph) was discovered by stereopathic from Tomb Raider Forums upon listening to commentaries from the Tomb Of Tihocan on Tomb Raider Anniversary.

Atlantean Pod/ Giant Yellow Egg

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7366/eggjw8.png

This is what the atlanteans of all breeds hatch out of when they are fully developed. It is thought that the pod is somewhat linked into the pyramid and is programed by the scion for how long the dna of what is in the pods should stay in it until it has developed fully. It can be told by the player when the atlanteans have fully developed as the mechanism: two sorts of arms or maybe two umbilical cords which could actually be feeding the atlanteans energy from the scion to develop move up and down to maybe show they are unataching from the egg.

The Pyramid

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3025/pyramidfe2.png

Many people on the forums have believed the pyramid to be a living thing and they ar all right, the great pyramid has gut walls which are beating so if you put it in one sense, the pyramid is the mother of all atlanteans and is breeding them and also nursing them to develop. When venturing in the pyramid, you could say it is the womb of the mother in a sense.

Natla's Atlanteans

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5474/natlauh5.png

Some people on the forum has thought to believe that the atlanteans Natla created were her own version of the atlantean race thus taking this further on in detail could mean that Tihocan and Qualopec could have also had their own version of atlanteans but were never revived unless a war or disaster occuried in hich the rulers would have used to prevent any disaster falling on atlantis.

Tihocan

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7945/tihocanos7.png

One of the rulers of atlantis, after the curse of the continent, or in other words after the meteor struck atlantis, Tihocan decides to split the scion in three, for then it would never again be used for it's destructive nature. Being the main ruler of atlantis, he is in charge of what actions Qualopec and Natla can and cannot take unless either by permission or supervised by him.

Tihocan was the one in which un-done Natla's doing and used the atlanteans for a purpose instead of destruction by putting them into their eternal rest after being directed to the tombs to guard all three rulers.

Qualopec

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6621/qualopecdx7.png

One of the rulers of atlantis, Qualopec gave shame to Natla as she attempted to kill him with her army and he decided to follow Tihocan's orders and put Natla into her eternal rest. He, also using his piece of the scion showed order in the world and could keep order the warriors of atlantis, in which were the atlanteans.

He uses this army only to protect atlantis and sweared not to use it for the destruction of the world. Over time he used the army to find new areas for atlantis to thrive in and populate in which he found Peru to be a good area for his final resting place and also an area in which he could rule himself.

Natla

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5474/natlauh5.png

Many stories are heard about Natla, once being the queen of atlantis she sought to start over, create a new atlantis by destroying the original which still stands up now. Creating a new, more powerful race of atlanteans in which could be more dependant to survive, needed the power of the scion in order to develop. Using the first atlanteans she created with her piece of the scion, she learned that she could create even more powerful versions of atlanteans if she had all of the scion.

Natla then tried to rid of the two rulers, Qualopec and Tihocan in order to obtain the other pieces of the scion but failed as her atlanteans were weak an were destroyed in battle. She was then caught and betraying all of atlantis, she was classed as a threat to atlantis and would thereful shame in the frozen limbo of eternity or in other words be put to her eternal rest.


The Powersource

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/image.php?u=29975&dateline=1209736558

To create these fearsome creatures, they needed a power source to awaken them from their slumber from deep beneath Atlantis. The only thing capable of this was the scion but since Natla abused it's powers and was using it for her own doing, the other two rulers seperated the scion in order to prevent anyone from ever using the scion to awaken the army of atlantis again and so Natla was frozen to be for all times.

Elysia
22-06-08, 14:56
Tomb Raider Tim - unless the thread has been started by staff here, no thread is 'official'. Can you edit your post, please?

stereopathic
22-06-08, 15:02
nice work, TRT.

TombRaiderTim
22-06-08, 15:04
thank you! :)

Bellacima
22-06-08, 15:16
That was very interesting to read good job i must say so myself:tmb:

stereopathic
22-06-08, 15:21
i think you should add the centaurs. that would be sweet.

TombRaiderTim
22-06-08, 17:55
Done! I also added two more things aswell! ;)

Lud's Gate
22-06-08, 20:33
Tut tut! Nice thread, thank you Tim I have been fighting many, many of these beasts today and was curious about them.

TombRaiderTim
22-06-08, 21:50
i'm glad it helped you to understand them, it is what this thread is for! ;)

Drone
22-06-08, 21:56
thanks it's amazing :) any chance to see Tihocan and Qualopec?


Atlantean Mutants/ Skinless Atlanteans pic is not showing

TombRaiderTim
22-06-08, 22:46
might be your computer :confused: Works fine here!

Earthcane
22-06-08, 22:50
Nice post, TRT- first of all, Atlanteans ROCK! 'nuff said. :p

Just one question though- I thought the so-called 'bandaged mutants' were just regular mummies?

TombRaiderTim
22-06-08, 22:54
no, they are atlanteans which were bred in atlantis and sent to the areas of where the three rulers of atlantis were found and were used as the guards of each tomb in order to protect the ruler of that area. They were bandaged up and was put into their eternal rest until the time came to where any intruders came, the scion would wake them from their eternal sleep in order to protect once more.

Earthcane
22-06-08, 23:19
Ah, right- a misconception on my behalf, it seems! :tmb:

Thanks for clearing that up. But if it were me, 'eternal rest' would not be something that's on the top of my to do list! :p

My fave mutants from the game are definitely the Centaurs. I get terrified when I hear them trotting! :o

Real Life Raider
23-06-08, 01:01
That was a very nicely crafted post TombRaiderTim, thanks and well done. :tmb:

If you can dig up any more info on Tihocan I would personally be very grateful!

Thanks!

stereopathic
23-06-08, 03:47
no, they are atlanteans which were bred in atlantis and sent to the areas of where the three rulers of atlantis were found and were used as the guards of each tomb in order to protect the ruler of that area. They were bandaged up and was put into their eternal rest until the time came to where any intruders came, the scion would wake them from their eternal sleep in order to protect once more.

this is something i was thinking of the other day: are the atlantean mummies actually there to protect the tombs of the rulers of atlantis? i ask because they are mutants and creations of natla. and since natla had a falling out with tihocan and qualopec, are the mummies there perhaps to imprison the other rulers? to make sure they aren't revived somehow and then set free?

instead of guardians, they're more like prison guards, helping insure that natla's return to power goes unopposed.

TombRaiderTim
23-06-08, 08:51
I have added information about Tihocan, Qualopc and Natla now, please have a look! ^^

stranger1992
23-06-08, 10:24
Where is your sources coming from?

TombRaiderTim
23-06-08, 10:35
search on google and find out yourself!

Blue_light
23-06-08, 13:21
The thread looks great :tmb: even if the centaur is not the original :D

touchthesky
23-06-08, 13:30
No Torso?:(

http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/images/tombraider1_pc_screenshots_01/screen040.jpg

Blue_light
23-06-08, 13:37
No Torso?:(

http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/images/tombraider1_pc_screenshots_01/screen040.jpg


It has Torso too :)

touchthesky
23-06-08, 13:42
AHA! So it does.
I love torso.

ostercy
23-06-08, 19:14
Don't forget the 1975 British Leyland Atlantean bus;

http://drumoyne.eveningtimes.co.uk/area/leyland-atlantean-bus-1975.html

Paul H
23-06-08, 20:42
Great work, TRT. :tmb: And that GIF of the running mutant would make a great avatar.

TombRaiderTim
23-06-08, 22:15
Great work, TRT. :tmb: And that GIF of the running mutant would make a great avatar.

Be my guest and use it for an avatar if you want! :D

TombRaiderTim
29-06-08, 11:24
sorry for dp but have i missed anything in the atlanteans profile?

stereopathic
01-07-08, 15:22
there were a couple of concept art images floating around awhile back of unused atlanteans. would those be applicable?

touchthesky
01-07-08, 15:30
I have a .gif I made of the Torso on my home PC. If anyones interested, I can post it.

stereopathic
01-07-08, 15:31
<--interested! :D

touchthesky
01-07-08, 15:33
Okay =D.

I will post it as soon as I am home if the internet is up. From what I've heard from my boyfriend it's been down all day but I can hope xD.

I made it a while back, Torso is my favourite TR Monster.

stereopathic
01-07-08, 15:34
cool, i can't wait!

touchthesky
01-07-08, 18:11
http://i30.tinypic.com/34fjmt3.gif

Here ya go!

stereopathic
01-07-08, 18:17
haha! that's really cool. :D

dexter void
01-07-08, 19:00
Wow. This is great, really insightful with loads of information.
Everytime one of those pods shattered it made me jump outta my skin, but also the anticipation leading up to when and which one would burst was thrilling.

It would be awesome if all this was actually true history. I guess its why we believe in our heads (or at least i choose to) that it all did occur many centuries ago....

:tmb::hug:

Catlantean
01-07-08, 23:25
Atlanteans rule :D

Have some more Atlantean animations:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/catlantean/AIM/cent_running.gif

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/catlantean/AIM/fem_run.gif

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/catlantean/AIM/flying.gif

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/catlantean/AIM/Walk.gif

krycekuva
02-07-08, 01:47
you dont describe the flying ones...:(

Danath
02-07-08, 12:05
http://i30.tinypic.com/34fjmt3.gif

Here ya go!

It is hitting the floor like saying: "Damn it, I lost" :D

stereopathic
02-07-08, 12:52
thanks, Cat! i wonder who made those...and how. they're soooo cool.

krycekuva
02-07-08, 13:20
could it be possible to extract the animations from TRA and compared them to TR1?... and the same,.. how to extract each ones animations,.. natla and torso guy animations are missing...

TombRaiderTim
02-07-08, 14:35
great animations! Replaced pics! :D

stereopathic
02-07-08, 15:12
here's some atlantean pics that were floating around in my TR1 folder. here's as good a place as any to post 'em i guess.

http://www.pylontemple.com/images/tr/scion.gif

http://www.pylontemple.com/lolara/lolara-owned.jpg

http://www.pylontemple.com/images/tr/sanctuary02.jpg

http://www.pylontemple.com/images/tr/mutant.jpg

http://www.pylontemple.com/images/tr/AtlanteanMutantsmall.jpg

http://www.pylontemple.com/images/tr/atlconcepts.jpg

Encore
02-07-08, 19:12
http://www.pylontemple.com/lolara/lolara-owned.jpg


ahah I was going to post that one too, it's hilarious :vlol:

krycekuva
02-07-08, 20:02
i just love the raptor atlantean:D.... sad he didnt made to any of the games...

krycekuva
02-07-08, 21:26
is there any other pic of the atlantean raptor???

TombRaiderTim
02-07-08, 21:27
it is not official as it is made custom so it not part of the atlantean story.

krycekuva
02-07-08, 22:38
custom?... how?... it looked pretty much like an old magazine... like a pre sale review?...:(...

are you really sure its was not part of the game that didnt made it till the end???

TombRaiderTim
03-07-08, 08:09
it is unfortunatly not one of them i am afraid! :D

krycekuva
03-07-08, 13:21
why is it then on a magazine?... do you know the creator?...

stereopathic
03-07-08, 13:39
i wonder how big the "atlantisaur" was going to be...

krycekuva
03-07-08, 13:51
it doenst look straight like the t rex, nor as thin as the raptors... maybe he was a new kind of dino... in that case, i wonder if his real homologe would have feature with another skin on the lost valley... you know... after lara there is the bacon lara, after the lionesses comes the panthers, after the cover mummies comes the flesh ones,... using the same model with different texture to have different enemies, (a nice idea, thou i would have added other colours, like grey gorillas, and even white,.. just to make them look older mutated... same for the lions... )
...

TombRaiderTim
03-07-08, 14:08
same size as the t rex? It may have been the big mutant which could have hatched from where the abomination did.

krycekuva
03-07-08, 14:45
maybe just in the middle but then:D.. the lost valley wouldnt have been just perfect, but "MORE THAN PERFECT!"... and then the whole game would have been cast into shadows:D... i tell you the lost valley was already GREAT as it was,.. adding a few more colours, perhaps a new area, and this new dino,.. even as a mummy (inside another lost valley temple) would have been the climax.

i always thought once you change the stream in the upper waterfall, when it leads you to a secret? (i think), well i thought that was the place for another different dinosaur,.. a dino that wasnt shown already on the valley..:D... :D... dreams.. oh just dreams..

TombRaiderTim
03-07-08, 15:23
that dream is almost true in TR1 revised by daione sidhe as there is something different that happens in the lost valley, it is worth a go! :D

krycekuva
03-07-08, 16:24
where can i find it?!:hug::hug::hug::hug:?!?!?!

TombRaiderTim
03-07-08, 17:01
here all Mr big an powerful! lol! :D

http://hof.trle.net/showHoFPage.php?month=200804&aid=417&lid=1553

Click on about the level and then download!

Catlantean
03-07-08, 17:02
thanks, Cat! i wonder who made those...and how. they're soooo cool.

I made them years ago for my Natla/Atlanteans site (link in profile) :)

stereopathic
03-07-08, 17:07
I made them years ago for my Natla/Atlanteans site (link in profile) :)

don't worry, i've got that site bookmarked. i can't believe i missed them. thanks for making them. :)

Tomb of Legends
04-07-08, 08:31
TRT I think you should do a follow up section of TRA's Atlanteans, all the same as you've done for TR1. You could put it on the first page of this thread. :wve:

stereopathic
17-07-08, 18:53
so i was playing anniversary today and listening to the commentaries and came across an interesting bit of information. the fireballs are actually supposed to be fleshy sacks of bone chips and goo that ignite when they burst. of course we all just call them fireballs but toby gard said they look like that only because they were so graphically limited, but they're actually not true balls of fire at all. interesting. :)

TombRaiderTim
24-07-08, 09:19
New updates on the first page!

krycekuva
24-07-08, 09:46
it was kind of obvious that what ever they shoot its a meat ball,... and the darts were more likely bones..:D...

i always thought those meat balls were actually skin, muscle, bones containing explosive gases like fossil gases that once ignited would blow an explosion like a molotov cocktail

stereopathic
24-07-08, 12:49
i always thought they were plasma-ish fireballs. i really like having Toby's original concept of it. it's so much better than just a plain glob of napalm or something. :D

TombRaiderTim
24-07-08, 21:33
The "darts" are thunderbolts.

Troy
25-07-08, 18:47
Great work Tomb Raider Tim.

TRexbait
26-07-08, 01:52
it was kind of obvious that what ever they shoot its a meat ball,... and the darts were more likely bones..:D...

i always thought those meat balls were actually skin, muscle, bones containing explosive gases like fossil gases that once ignited would blow an explosion like a molotov cocktailThaty's what i saw, sacks filled with explosive. and i carefully saw that the darts were vey pointy white solid thing. Not lightning bolts.

Lara died during the examination. ;)

Danath
26-07-08, 14:12
That "fireball" information is new to me! :eek: Thanks! :tmb: I always thought that what the mutants were shooting were plasma bolts or fire balls. :rolleyes: