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Crayons
19-07-08, 23:11
You guys need to stop being brainwashed, it's getting really obnoxious now. It's not like lara would kill them just because you guys thought they were a little annoying. If they don't actually die, I can almost gurantee that a lot of members would be angry.

Stop hating on Zip and Alister for NO ****ing reasing
at ALL

STFU, all of you.

http://i38.tinypic.com/3308t8i.jpg

EDIT: Why do you guys hate them, CD are the ones who created them, I don't see you bashing them.

Larapink
19-07-08, 23:14
All we know is that she might have killed both Z&A and Winston. :o

just*raidin*tomb
19-07-08, 23:15
You prefer them being around?:yik:

Its a fantasy of mine. Lara killing them of course.:D

But maybe they are secretly working with Amanda and they tell her everything Lara knows and somehow they completely turn against her.

_Awestruck_
19-07-08, 23:17
Maybe they agreed to die so it looks like Lara died as well to keep Amanda off her trail.

?

takamotosan
19-07-08, 23:17
All we know is that she might have killed both Z&A and Winston. :o

but i don't think she hated them like many people here do...

i just don't see any reason for her to KILL them.

dismiss them, maybe.

but not blow them up in her mansion.

that seems a little much, even for Lara.

jamestodd9
19-07-08, 23:18
All we know is that she might have killed both Z&A and Winston. :o

How do we know this? there is no evidence of it and nothing in the trailer to suggest it! they are not glue'd to the manor lol.

_Awestruck_
19-07-08, 23:19
How do we know this? there is no evidence of it and nothing in the trailer to suggest it! they are not glue'd to the manor lol.

The key word is MIGHT ;)

Rivendell
19-07-08, 23:20
We can dream. :) I hardly dare to though, because if I got hyped about their demise and then it didn't happen, I'd be majorly disappointed.

b0bb13
19-07-08, 23:21
I don't care if they're dead or alive.I just don't want the headset back(which won't happen).If they just stay in cutscenes,everything's gonna be perfect!:)

ajrich17901
19-07-08, 23:23
im hopin she did blow em up but hey as long as we dont get the headset back ill be happy either way

jamestodd9
19-07-08, 23:23
The key word is MIGHT ;)

But what is there to even suggest a "might" lol........i really dont have an issue with Z + A!

ThatNorskChick
19-07-08, 23:23
Yeah...I really doubt it'll happen...unfortunately.

But if it does, I will be pleasantly suprised. :mis:

remote91
19-07-08, 23:24
Maybe they agreed to die so it looks like Lara died as well to keep Amanda off her trail.

?
Lmfao.

Somehow I doubt it.

thevman
19-07-08, 23:24
Did lara ever NEED a reason to kill someone? A sliver of an excuse has always been "he's in her way" but she couldn't force them on the ground or into another room? Lara kills because she feels like it, simple as that! :ohn: She is cold blooded. :mis: As annoying as Z&A are, I am surprised she hasn't killed them earlier. :whi:

Crayons
19-07-08, 23:27
You prefer them being around?:yik:

Its a fantasy of mine. Lara killing them of course.:D

But maybe they are secretly working with Amanda and they tell her everything Lara knows and somehow they completely turn against her.

We can dream. :) I hardly dare to though, because if I got hyped about their demise and then it didn't happen, I'd be majorly disappointed.

im hopin she did blow em up but hey as long as we dont get the headset back ill be happy either way

Yeah...I really doubt it'll happen...unfortunately.

But if it does, I will be pleasantly suprised. :mis:

This is EXACTLY what i'm talking about. :mad:
It's so bothering to hear, "oh alistar this, zip that, I hope lara didn't come to her senses and take zip and alistar out of the house before exploding it." Seriously guys, be a little realistic. :mad: Would lara really kill them ?

KC Mraz
19-07-08, 23:30
If Lara ever find Z&A annying, she woudn't kill them, just kick their arses of her manor (like every other non-psycho person in the world).

jamestodd9
19-07-08, 23:31
I think the answer is NO!!

Crayons
19-07-08, 23:32
I think the answer is NO!!

Why not?

Larapink
19-07-08, 23:32
How do we know this? there is no evidence of it and nothing in the trailer to suggest it! they are not glue'd to the manor lol.
I said MIGHT, nothing is certain.
The key word is MIGHT ;)
Exactly. ;)

Lenochka
19-07-08, 23:32
I doubt Lara would kill anyone assisting her in her pursuit for what she wants... Now If they were standing in her way thats another story.

Larapink
19-07-08, 23:34
I doubt Lara would kill anyone assisting her in her pursuit for what she wants... Now If they were standing in her way thats another story.
Now that made me think. :pi:

ThatNorskChick
19-07-08, 23:35
This is EXACTLY what i'm talking about. :mad:
It's so bothering to hear, "oh alistar this, zip that, I hope lara didn't come to her senses and take zip and alistar out of the house before exploding it." Seriously guys, be a little realistic. :mad: Would lara really kill them ?

I'm sorry you're bothered by it but (not to speak for everyone) I don't think we actually believe that she'd just kill them simply because they're annoying. She might kill them if she had a good reason too...I mean, she just blew up her house. She's obviously ****ed about something. :p

Crayons
19-07-08, 23:35
Now that made me think. :pi:

What's it making you think, Larapink?

Tomb-Dude
19-07-08, 23:36
I think some people are messing around a bit to be honest. I know I was when i posted up my thread about her getting annoyed and finally blowing them up to dust :ton:

Honestly, we don't know we jsut see her standing out side turns around and boom. Maybe she knows its the end of the world it's her faults, and can't bare to say good bye so she stands outside has a little sobbing session and blows them up. No pain done, quick and easy.

Maybe she did get them out. We don't know and I highly doubt they would show their bodies on the trailer anyway. Imagin a 11 year old or something wanting this game, looks at trailers nad see's zip blown up and winston suffing in pain perhaps?

People can have a laugh if they really dispice them in my opinion.
i like them and it makes me laugh when people wish they where dead because I think of it as humour or i read it in a funny way. :)

cardmonster
19-07-08, 23:36
Used 'em before and I'll use 'em again:

http://i34.tinypic.com/11takoz.jpghttp://i33.tinypic.com/9vgu9t.jpg

:wve:

jamestodd9
19-07-08, 23:36
This is EXACTLY what i'm talking about. :mad:
It's so bothering to hear, "oh alistar this, zip that, I hope lara didn't come to her senses and take zip and alistar out of the house before exploding it." Seriously guys, be a little realistic. :mad: Would lara really kill them ?

Why not?

I don't have a solid explanation but so far we have no reason for her to kill them(YET + are they not like family to her along with the old butler) but i really just cant see her killing them by blowing them up in her house surly she would give them more respect? no?....but ive just got a gut feeling that they are going to be alive and kicking!

remote91
19-07-08, 23:37
Now that made me think. :pi:
Thats worrying.

Crayons
19-07-08, 23:37
I think some people are messing around a bit to be honest. I know I was when i posted up my thread about her getting annoyed and finally blowing them up to dust :ton:


Everybody is taking it SO seriously, like they have to die or something or they're not going to play the game.

Larapink
19-07-08, 23:39
What's it making you think, Larapink?
Just really more about the storyline.

Thats worrying.
:vlol:

It wasn't bad, it was just some creative thoughts on the storyline.

Crayons
19-07-08, 23:40
Honestly, I hope they are back with an even louder headset so I can sit here and watch you guys make up all these weird things like some kids. Then, maybe you guys can realize how stupid all this is and come back to reality.
ya?

Tomb-Dude
19-07-08, 23:40
Everybody is taking it SO seriously, like they have to die or something or they're not going to play the game.


Lol, I wouldn't care if Z&A where in the game or not. They didn't bother me at all. DId make Lara seem more "Human" having someone there and showed us that she did have friends, people who cared about her.

just*raidin*tomb
19-07-08, 23:47
This is EXACTLY what i'm talking about. :mad:
It's so bothering to hear, "oh alistar this, zip that, I hope lara didn't come to her senses and take zip and alistar out of the house before exploding it." Seriously guys, be a little realistic. :mad: Would lara really kill them ?

Relax! :confused:

It's all for fun! Sure, I want them completely gone and I don't like them one bit except for maybe cutscenes between levels or something. I know Lara is not going to kill them, she is NOT evil. Jeeze! Lara probably sees them as a part of her family by now because she really has no famliy. No parents and her family has turned against her. I just think they are annoying, specifically Alister's voice and Zip's cheezy jokes.;) As long as they do not bother me during gameplay I'll deal.

Crayons
19-07-08, 23:54
Honestly not once during TRL did I find them the least bit of annoying, I always wondered what they were going to say next, it's not like if lara plans to blow up her manor for whatever reason, you want Z&A to be in it, why?
You're all brainwashed into thinking they have to die one way or another.

Tear
19-07-08, 23:55
They're not dead.

Lenochka
19-07-08, 23:57
Honestly not once during TRL did I find them the least bit of annoying, I always wondered what they were going to say next, it's not like if lara plans to blow up her manor for whatever reason, you want Z&A to be in it, why?
You're all brainwashed into thinking they have to die one way or another.

Same, I think this hating Z and A is just some fad that people seen other people doing and decide they want to join in as well, I mean... They weren't that annoying and If they were annoying people there was an option to turn down the vocals. xD

thevman
19-07-08, 23:58
Z&A MUST DIE!!! :mis: Lara's sanity depends on it! :tea:

Crayons
19-07-08, 23:58
Z&A MUST DIE!!! :mis: Lara's sanity depends on it! :tea:

huh?

Larapink
19-07-08, 23:59
Z&A MUST DIE!!! :mis: Lara's sanity depends on it! :tea:
Include Winston in that because she doesn't need him.

New Winston is useless he stands in one place.

Crayons
20-07-08, 00:00
Include Winston in that because she doesn't need him.

New Winston is useless he stands in one place.

Very wise post Larapink. :confused:

Larapink
20-07-08, 00:01
Very wise post Larapink. :confused:
Right, well it's true. Old Winston was so much better!

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:01
Honestly not once during TRL did I find them the least bit of annoying, I always wondered what they were going to say next, it's not like if lara plans to blow up her manor for whatever reason, you want Z&A to be in it, why?
You're all brainwashed into thinking they have to die one way or another.

Did you not just read what I posted!:confused:

Besides they take away from the isolation feeling of being alone and vulnerable(sp). So as long as there is NO headset and no talking to them during levels, I will be fine. Why do you think that we have to agree with you? We all have our opinions and if you enjoy their company then that's your business.:)

jamestodd9
20-07-08, 00:02
Include Winston in that because she doesn't need him.

New Winston is useless he stands in one place.

haha yea i remember the days of locking him in the fridge because he followed you...he was very creepy!

Crayons
20-07-08, 00:02
Right, well it's true. Old Winston was so much better!

Oh, the old winston was better. Now that this character is boring, let's kill him. :confused:

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:03
Oh, the old winston was better. Now that this character is boring, let's kill him. :confused:

Tried bullets don't effect him maybe thats why she used a bomb instead :ton:

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:03
Oh, the old winston was better. Now that this character is boring, let's kill him. :confused:

You are taking this WAY too seriously.:confused:

Crayons
20-07-08, 00:04
Did you not just read what I posted!:confused:

Besides they take away from the isolation feeling of being alone and vulnerable(sp). So as long as there is NO headset and no talking to them during levels, I will be fine. Why do you think that we have to agree with you? We all have our opinions and if you enjoy their company then that's your business.:)

I don't care if she has a headset or not.

Crayons
20-07-08, 00:04
You are taking this WAY too seriously.:confused:

Why shouldn't I?

thevman
20-07-08, 00:07
Why shouldn't I?

Because they're not REAL??? ;) Besides, no one plays TR so they can play as zip or alister or winston... :ton:

Crayons
20-07-08, 00:08
Because they're not REAL??? ;) Besides, no one plays TR so they can play as zip or alister or winston... :ton:

Exactly. Bash CD, not Z&A.

jamestodd9
20-07-08, 00:08
all his moans and groans are now nothing but a distant memory!......i can just see him now following me around the house with his tea tray.

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:09
Why shouldn't I?

Because everyone is just saying KILL THEM, because they do not like them. They want them completely gone. People know Lara is not going to kill them for no reason and if they claim that she would then they don't know Lara or they are toying with you because they think it's funny (which would be really rude).

Crayons
20-07-08, 00:10
Because everyone is just saying KILL THEM, because they do not like them. They want them completely gone. People know Lara is not going to kill them for no reason and if they claim that she would then they don't know Lara or they are toying with you because they think it's funny (which would be really rude).

They're not leaving.

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:11
Because they're not REAL??? ;) Besides, no one plays TR so they can play as zip or alister or winston... :ton:

Lol imagin playing as Winston jumping around Tombs.

But i find the newer winston well in Anniversary creepy becuase he just pops up i remember walking into her bedroom and seeing him standing there i was like "Ahh" and started shooting him calling him an old perv :whi:

Larapink
20-07-08, 00:13
Lol imagin playing as Winston jumping around Tombs.

But i find the newer winston well in Anniversary creepy becuase he just pops up i remember walking into her bedroom and seeing him standing there i was like "Ahh" and started shooting him calling him an old perv :whi:
OMG! You just reminded me, once when I was playing in the Manor in Anniversary I saw Winston randomly appear next to Lara's Bed! :eek:

Winston you pervert! :mad:

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:13
They're not leaving.

I did not say they were leaving!:hea:

I said that people want them gone. You like them, some hate them. You have a right to your opinion just as much as I do. I don't understand why people would want winston dead either...now some of you are just being rediculously funny.:vlol: LETS KILL MOTHER!

jamestodd9
20-07-08, 00:13
Lol imagin playing as Winston jumping around Tombs.

But i find the newer winston well in Anniversary creepy becuase he just pops up i remember walking into her bedroom and seeing him standing there i was like "Ahh" and started shooting him calling him an old perv :whi:

o yea he did just pop up in different rooms n sometimes he couldnt be found....vry wierd old man!

Sekhraider
20-07-08, 00:14
Lol imagin playing as Winston jumping around Tombs.

But i find the newer winston well in Anniversary creepy becuase he just pops up i remember walking into her bedroom and seeing him standing there i was like "Ahh" and started shooting him calling him an old perv :whi:

I'd rather have the Winston who made those funky old man grunts with the rattling glass, that way you knew where he was. Instead of this "phantom" Winston dude who appears out of no where. Its like I'll be in one room and then see him appear in another. Its like he's a creepy stalker dude waiting to getcha when you turn your back.

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:15
OMG! You just reminded me, once when I was playing in the Manor I saw Winston randomly appear next to Lara's Bed! :eek:

Winston you pervert! :mad:

I wondered why in the old ones he did so much moaning :p Dirty winston!!!

So which one stalker, groaning winston or bedroom perving winston? *cringes*

Love the way we gone from talking about Zip and Alistair to winston now.

thevman
20-07-08, 00:18
Lara won't get rid of winston, he's hung like a horse... :whi:

Larapink
20-07-08, 00:19
I wondered why in the old ones he did so much moaning :p Dirty winston!!!

So which one stalker, groaning winston or bedroom perving winston? *cringes*

Love the way we gone from talking about Zip and Alistair to winston now.
It wasn't old Winston it was Anniversary Winston, he's a dirty old man pervert.
Standing next to Lara's bed thinking about something dirty about Lara, That's the new Winston. :mad:

Sekhraider
20-07-08, 00:19
Lara won't get rid of winston, he's hung like a horse... :whi:

Eww lol :vlol:

Winston needs a Winsta (some old french maid lady to keep him company while Lara is away)

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:21
Lara won't get rid of winston, he's hung like a horse... :whi:


:vlol: :vlol: :vlol: I actually just laughed out loud! Wow i must be sad :whi:

It wasn't old Winston it was Anniversary Winston, he's a dirty old man pervert.
Standing next to Lara's bed thinking about something dirty, new Winston.

Winstons younger brother it must be, he doesn't have pain in his back anymore and he looks a bit younger maybe instead of 100 he is 80?
Winston just can't help his self around Lara, she really needs a lock for her bedroom... ooo maybe thats the key ;) :ton:

thevman
20-07-08, 00:22
Nah, lara likes to tease him and watch him pass out when he gets excited! :vlol: Why else would she be running around the mansion in a bikini??? :mis:

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:23
haha...
U see the way he stares at her on the first cutscene back home in legend. When she walks off he oviously isn't looking at her back but a bit lower ;)

Larapink
20-07-08, 00:25
Winstons younger brother it must be, he doesn't have pain in his back anymore and he looks a bit younger maybe instead of 100 he is 80?
Winston just can't help his self around Lara, she really needs a lock for her bedroom... ooo maybe thats the key ;) :ton:
She does need a lock in her room, it's really unfair for Lara well when erm.. :p

Nah, lara likes to tease him and watch him pass out when he gets excited! :vlol: Why else would she be running around the mansion in a bikini??? :mis:
:vlol::vlol:

Well Lara let a much younger man, who's Lara's age "hit it" since then Winston has been jealous. :p

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:26
You people are immensly perverted.:rolleyes:

Larapink
20-07-08, 00:27
You people are immensly perverted.:rolleyes:
:vlol:

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:28
You people are immensly perverted.:rolleyes:

:vlol:

Haha, Blame Winston thats all I say.

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:31
:vlol:

Haha, Blame Winston thats all I say.

I blame Zip, we all know exactly what he's doing on the PC all day;).

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:32
I blame Zip, we all know exactly what he's doing on the PC all day;).

"Stalking his ex girlfriends" does Lara put it?
Or it may be other stuff possibly ;)

Mr.Burns
20-07-08, 00:34
*coughs* Play nice people or this thread will be closed.

Larapink
20-07-08, 00:36
I blame Zip, we all know exactly what he's doing on the PC all day;).
Zip needs to replace his webcams in Lara's bedroom, Zip is another pervert. :vlol:

I think Alister just loves himself, he looks like a loner.

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:36
^Watch it!
Indeed. Lets get back to Z & A. Why do you want them to be dead?

jamestodd9
20-07-08, 00:37
*coughs* Play nice people or this thread will be closed.

Y? there is nothing offensive going on is there?

Larapink
20-07-08, 00:38
I find Z&A irritating always talking through levels, it's so annyoing.

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:39
Y? there is nothing offensive going on is there?

Talking suggestively is what we are doing. Well, I wasn't untill you tempted me.

BACK ON TOPIC:

Alister's voice is annoying and Zip's jokes are not funny!

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:39
Y? there is nothing offensive going on is there?

shh... Mods have powers (I know *cough*bannedtwice*cough*)


I don't want Zip and Alistair to be dead honestly, maybe come back see Lara's gun and think she was in the blast but no body. Like her father? Except there where remain but couldn't tell if it was him or not.

jamestodd9
20-07-08, 00:40
They are really not that bad! and they dont speak all the way through levels like people say..slight exaduration....i think most people have just jumped on the band wagon of hating them

Mr.Burns
20-07-08, 00:40
Y? there is nothing offensive going on is there?

The attitude and behavior of certain members is not producing a conductive environment for this discussion.

In simpler terms: A few people here need to calm down.

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:43
shh... Mods have powers (I know *cough*bannedtwice*cough*)


I was banned for a week and I didn't even do anything wrong. Really ticked me off. I still to this day know for a fact that I did absolutely nothing wrong.


Now let's get back on topic.

jamestodd9
20-07-08, 00:43
shh... Mods have powers (I know *cough*bannedtwice*cough*)


I don't want Zip and Alistair to be dead honestly, maybe come back see Lara's gun and think she was in the blast but no body. Like her father? Except there where remain but couldn't tell if it was him or not.

haha thanks for the heads up!

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:45
They are really not that bad! and they dont speak all the way through levels like people say..slight exaduration....i think most people have just jumped on the band wagon of hating them

Totally agree, i think people are hating them for no reason except for speaking.
I didn't find they gave any hints at all, i just think it was nice for Lara to actually have company, imagine being on your own int the middle of know where and not having anyone to talk to. You would prey for a headset or something so you can talk to someone and share what you are looking at.

AmericanAssassin
20-07-08, 00:48
Stop hating on Zip and Alister for NO ****ing reason at ALL.

For no reason at all? Are you joking? Seriously, I can't understand not hating that idiotic duo. They completely ruin the experience of raiding tombs. I probably would have liked TRL a lot more if they hadn't ruined the levels with their lame jokes and constant yammering. I actually turn off the voices when I play now. Much better, but it will never be as good as possible because I'll always remember how they ruined my first impression of each level. If I could choose, they'd both die in the first cutscene of the game. Horribly and painfully. That's how they made me feel about the series. Zip and Allister (along with Interactive Cutscenes) are not meant for Tomb Raider.

Oh, and FYI, Zip was made by Core. Their mistake. :rolleyes:

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 00:48
Totally agree, i think people are hating them for no reason except for speaking.
I didn't find they gave any hints at all, i just think it was nice for Lara to actually have company, imagine being on your own int the middle of know where and not having anyone to talk to. You would prey for a headset or something so you can talk to someone and share what you are looking at.

TR is about being alone. And they did give hints.

Example:

Lara: "If I were....where would I be"?
Zip: "Up top"

There's plenty more...you must not have been listening to them.

Tomb-Dude
20-07-08, 00:55
TR is about being alone. And they did give hints.

Example:

Lara: "If I were....where would I be"?
Zip: "Up top"

There's plenty more...you must not have been listening to them.

In kazarakstarn she asked the question about the energy sorce. Saying if i where the energy sorce where would i be and he just answered.
I'm talking abu puzzles in england didn't tell u pull the chandler and pull down the bell. But it did say why dont u try that create on the pressure plate even though i wasn't looking at it first time so i was looking around for a koffin afterwards.
Ok so they might have given some hints but not majorly?

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 01:02
I don't any possibility of any hint and I want it to be as hard as possible. Lara should be smart enough to figure things out for herself. Having them helps too much and they are annoying and I'm not saying that because everyone else is, it's my opinion. If you people can say that then I'm going to say that I think you all are agreeing that they are not annoying just because you want to fit in. It's insulting so please stop.:) (not talking to you specifically)

Crayons
20-07-08, 01:05
For no reason at all? Are you joking? Seriously, I can't understand not hating that idiotic duo. They completely ruin the experience of raiding tombs. I probably would have liked TRL a lot more if they hadn't ruined the levels with their lame jokes and constant yammering. I actually turn off the voices when I play now. Much better, but it will never be as good as possible because I'll always remember how they ruined my first impression of each level. If I could choose, they'd both die in the first cutscene of the game. Horribly and painfully. That's how they made me feel about the series. Zip and Allister (along with Interactive Cutscenes) are not meant for Tomb Raider.

Oh, and FYI, Zip was made by Core. Their mistake. :rolleyes:

Bash CD, not Z&A.

Crimson Tears
20-07-08, 01:06
People are joking, they didn't mean that Lara really DID killed them. I mean, we're joking because most of us don't like Zip and Alister...

Death Mask
20-07-08, 01:08
Stop hating on Zip and Alister for NO ****ing reasing
at ALL

STFU, all of you.

Haven’t you been by this (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=117040&highlight=grozaa) thread? Many of the posts explain why people hate them.

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 01:12
^ Goodness, he was being rather rude. :(

ThatNorskChick
20-07-08, 01:15
Yes everyone, let's go back to the GROZAA thread so we can complain without being disturbed. ;)

Sekhraider
20-07-08, 01:16
They are really not that bad! and they dont speak all the way through levels like people say..slight exaduration....i think most people have just jumped on the band wagon of hating them

Honestly I never really cared either way whether Zip or Alister or both talked at all. I just thought Zip was cute. I liked that tattoo on his arm. But yes it was annoying b/c due to the extreme linear feel to TRL, at certain points you knew they were going to talk. That was my problem. But oh well. Good riddance to Alister and so long to Zip.

Lost_Soul
20-07-08, 01:21
Bash CD, not Z&A.

Why should we bash CD just because we don't like 2 characters? I really don't understand you.
You accuse everyone of taking it too seriously when the only one taking things too seriously is you. People are just having a laugh, of course Lara isn't going to kill them for no reason. And they are far from "a little" annoying. They ruin Legend, it wasn't much of a TR game anyway but they just make it horribly, horribly worse. Like in Kazakhstan when those Russian soldiers tell Lara whrere to go Zip still feels the need to say "I dunno what you were talking about but they gate they mentioned is up ahead" (or something). Yeah really, is it? Never could have figured that out by myself. So what I'm saying is that IMO people have every right to strongly dislike them. They ruin the atmosphere and treat you like a bloody idiot. So if they don't die in Underworld, too bad. I won't care so much as long as they stay off the headset and let me play for 2 seconds without hearing stupid and pointless comments.

Death Mask
20-07-08, 01:28
Why should we bash CD just because we don't like 2 characters? I really don't understand you.
You accuse everyone of taking it too seriously when the only one taking things too seriously is you. People are just having a laugh, of course Lara isn't going to kill them for no reason. And they are far from "a little" annoying. They ruin Legend, it wasn't much of a TR game anyway but they just make it horribly, horribly worse. Like in Kazakhstan when those Russian soldiers tell Lara whrere to go Zip still feels the need to say "I dunno what you were talking about but they gate they mentioned is up ahead" (or something). Yeah really, is it? Never could have figured that out by myself. So what I'm saying is that IMO people have every right to strongly dislike them. They ruin the atmosphere and treat you like a bloody idiot. So if they don't die in Underworld, too bad. I won't care so much as long as they stay off the headset and let me play for 2 seconds without hearing stupid and pointless comments.

Said it like a prophet, that's more or less how the great majority feels about them so there is no point in trying to change anyones opinions. :)

CatyCroft
20-07-08, 02:00
Well, I like Tomb raider games without headset and/or without zip and alister, but if CD sometime want to put headset and Z&A back, fine for me ^^
I dont really care

Crayons
20-07-08, 02:09
Why should we bash CD just because we don't like 2 characters? I really don't understand you.
You accuse everyone of taking it too seriously when the only one taking things too seriously is you. People are just having a laugh, of course Lara isn't going to kill them for no reason. And they are far from "a little" annoying. They ruin Legend, it wasn't much of a TR game anyway but they just make it horribly, horribly worse. Like in Kazakhstan when those Russian soldiers tell Lara whrere to go Zip still feels the need to say "I dunno what you were talking about but they gate they mentioned is up ahead" (or something). Yeah really, is it? Never could have figured that out by myself. So what I'm saying is that IMO people have every right to strongly dislike them. They ruin the atmosphere and treat you like a bloody idiot. So if they don't die in Underworld, too bad. I won't care so much as long as they stay off the headset and let me play for 2 seconds without hearing stupid and pointless comments.

I dissagree.

Fdx Croft
20-07-08, 02:18
Im sorry... I dont hate them, but... theres something that... I cant explain it XD :cln:

The characters that I really love are Tihocan and Qualopec (Im waitin to see them)... :jmp:

:hug:

takamotosan
20-07-08, 02:54
Zip and Allister will be eaten by UNDERPUS

Crimson Tears
20-07-08, 03:05
Im sorry... I dont hate them, but... theres something that... I cant explain it XD :cln:

The characters that I really love are Tihocan and Qualopec (Im waitin to see them)... :jmp:

:hug:

Agreed. :D
It's not that we don't like them...

thevman
20-07-08, 03:06
Zip and Allister will be eaten by UNDERPUS

That was what upset underpus so much! :eek:

Tear
20-07-08, 03:13
Zip and Allister will be eaten by UNDERPUS

Now that I would love to see!

I don't mind those two idiots at all, but seeing Underpus chew them up would be priceless.:D

takamotosan
20-07-08, 03:16
Now that I would love to see!

I don't mind those two idiots at all, but seeing Underpus chew them up would be priceless.:D

and hearing Allister squeal like a little girl :D

Crimson Tears
20-07-08, 03:23
and hearing Allister squeal like a little girl :D

LOL! XDDD :vlol: I'd love to hear that! :D

Treasure Seeker
20-07-08, 03:25
Why should we bash CD just because we don't like 2 characters? I really don't understand you.
You accuse everyone of taking it too seriously when the only one taking things too seriously is you. People are just having a laugh, of course Lara isn't going to kill them for no reason. And they are far from "a little" annoying. They ruin Legend, it wasn't much of a TR game anyway but they just make it horribly, horribly worse. Like in Kazakhstan when those Russian soldiers tell Lara whrere to go Zip still feels the need to say "I dunno what you were talking about but they gate they mentioned is up ahead" (or something). Yeah really, is it? Never could have figured that out by myself. So what I'm saying is that IMO people have every right to strongly dislike them. They ruin the atmosphere and treat you like a bloody idiot. So if they don't die in Underworld, too bad. I won't care so much as long as they stay off the headset and let me play for 2 seconds without hearing stupid and pointless comments.
Ok,whilst i do agree that they were annoying in legend,i never whinged about it(no offense though)and i do like them,as long as they don't babble something unimportant every five seconds;)

Treasure Seeker
20-07-08, 03:35
Because everyone is just saying KILL THEM, because they do not like them. They want them completely gone. People know Lara is not going to kill them for no reason and if they claim that she would then they don't know Lara or they are toying with you because they think it's funny (which would be really rude).
Ahem,not EVERYONE wants Z&A dead,i don't,and im sure a few other people in this forum don't either:tea:

Treasure Seeker
20-07-08, 03:40
Z&A MUST DIE!!! :mis: Lara's sanity depends on it! :tea:

Not really,i think lara's already insane,hasn't she always been?:p

Tombraiderx08
20-07-08, 03:44
well ive noticed that she isnt wearing the headset anymore...

Treasure Seeker
20-07-08, 03:46
Honestly, I hope they are back with an even louder headset so I can sit here and watch you guys make up all these weird things like some kids. Then, maybe you guys can realize how stupid all this is and come back to reality.
ya?
Sounds good,i'll make sure im around to watch the action unfold:p

just*raidin*tomb
20-07-08, 04:58
Ahem,not EVERYONE wants Z&A dead,i don't,and im sure a few other people in this forum don't either:tea:

You know exactly what I mean.;)

I don't want them dead either. I just do not want them to be in any presence while I'm raiding.:)