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interstellardave
15-08-08, 15:35
Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say


(CNN) -- A policeman and a former corrections officer say that on Friday they will unveil evidence of what they claim is their biggest find ever: the body of Bigfoot.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/08/14/bigfoot.body/art.thawedcreature.cnn.jpg The thawed body of a creature reputed to be Bigfoot reportedly weighs more than 500 pounds.

Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, a pair of Bigfoot-hunting hobbyists from north Georgia, say they found the creature's body in a wooded area and spotted several similar creatures that were still alive.

The carcass of the furry half-man, half-ape is 7 feet, 7 inches tall and weighs more than 500 pounds, they say. However, the two are not disclosing the exact location of their discovery to protect the remaining creatures.

Tom Nelson, chairman of the biology department at North Georgia College and State University in Dahlonega, said he's "pretty skeptical" the world will feast its eyes on a new species Friday.

"That would certainly rock mammalogy," joked Nelson, who specializes in the study of mammals. "I see a research grant in my future."

Whitton and Dyer plan to unveil what they say is DNA and photo evidence of the discovery in Palo Alto, California, in conjunction with a group called Searching for Bigfoot Inc.

A photograph on that group's Web site shows what appears to be the body of a large, hairy creature with an ape-like face, stuffed into a large freezer.

According to a written release, the two announced the discovery on an Internet radio show, "Squatch Detective," several weeks ago.

"The only person we would allow to come down and verify the body was 'the Real Bigfoot Hunter,' Tom Biscardi," Dyer said, referring to Searching for Bigfoot's CEO, who has been looking for the elusive, legendary creature in the United States and Canada since 1971.

Whitton is a Georgia police officer who is on administrative leave after being shot in the wrist during a pursuit. Dyer is a former prison guard.
DNA tests on the body have begun, said the statement, and "extensive scientific studies" will be done on the body by scientists, including a molecular biologist, an anthropologist and a paleontologist.

Nelson, the university professor, acknowledged that new species of animals have been discovered in recent decades and that, in science, "we always acknowledge the possibility of something new."

But he said that even in north Georgia, home to the Blue Ridge Mountains and the foot of the Appalachian Trail, it stretches the imagination to think a family of 7-foot-tall creatures could have eluded hunters, hikers and creeping development until now.

"To the average person, these places just seem like extreme wilderness where you'll find lions and tigers and bears," he said. "The reality is that you're never more than a mile from a road."

The group says the animal is male, has reddish hair and "blackish-gray" eyes and human-like feet, hands and teeth.

LINK: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/14/bigfoot.body/index.html

siouxsiecrux
15-08-08, 15:37
Why do people believe this rubbish? Its has been proven to be a hoax already. Well what do you expect.

kooky
15-08-08, 15:38
OMG, Bigfoot is actually real?! I can't believe it, I thought this day would never come! :yik: *Faints*

interstellardave
15-08-08, 15:39
Why do people believe this rubbish? Its has been proven to be a hoax already. Well what do you expect.

This story is on the cnn frontpage... so, not necessarily a hoax. Could turn out to be, but not yet...

siouxsiecrux
15-08-08, 15:41
This story is on the cnn frontpage... so, not necessarily a hoax. Could turn out to be, but not yet...

It is highly unlikely that it is not.

Did you notice that it was found by bigfoot hobbyist? Why was it not found by people whom wanted a stroll in the woods, or a hunter? It was found by people whom look for bigfoot and this hints that it is a large hoax.


Bigfoot body 'discovery' dismissed as a hoax
Two American Bigfoot hunters who claim to have found a body of one of the legendary creatures have been dismissed as hoaxers by sceptics.


Photo of the Bigfoot 'corpse' released by the two trackers
Rick Dyer and Matthew Whitton say they will produce DNA evidence and a video of their find at a press conference in California today.
They have already released a photo showing what they claim is the dead Bigfoot in a freezer, with what appear to be intestines protruding from its stomach.
Critics insist the photo is actually just a gorilla costume, or even a rug.
Mr Dyer and Mr Whitton claim to have discovered the body in woods at an unspecified location in northern Georgia, and to have spotted three living Bigfoots as they dragged the carcass into their car.
“It was very frightening at first, and it got even more frightening when you saw the others, Mr Dyer said.
“There’s a lot of comment being made that it looks fake, or it looks like a suit,” he added.
“But these people wasn’t there when I was sweating, pulling this thing through the woods.”
The creature, which is being stored at a secret location, is 7ft 7in tall, weighs more than 35 st and is part "human and part ape-like", they claim.
Mr Dyer, 31, runs a business that offers Bigfoot tours of Georgia, raising suspicions that the “discovery” is just a marketing stunt.
Tom Biscardi, a Bigfoot “expert” who has inspected the carcass and claims that it is genuine, also has a financial interest in the myth, selling Bigfoot merchandise from his website www.searchingforbigfoot.com.
He has previously endorsed other Bigfoot finds that turned out to be false.
Jefrey Meldrum, another Bigfoot researcher, has poured cold water on the claims.
"I’ve had interactions with Tom Biscardi in the past, and based on that history, I would say that anything he is involved in is suspect," Mr Meldrum told Scientific American.
"The fact that the two Georgian men turned to him and not anyone with scientific credentials is very questionable."
Mr Dyer and Mr Whitton posted a video on YouTube in which a man identified as scientist Dr Paul van Buren endorses their Bigfoot discovery.
He has since been revealed as Mr Whitton's brother, who has no scientific qualifications.


What did i say?

oocladableeblah
15-08-08, 15:43
Wow, it would be cool if it was actually big foot.

Nemo_91
15-08-08, 15:44
Cool. That picture looks so fake though XD

interstellardave
15-08-08, 15:45
It is highly unlikely that it is not.

Did you notice that it was found by bigfoot hobbyist? Why was it not found by people whom wanted a stroll in the woods, or a hunter? It was found by people whom look for bigfoot and this hints that it is a large hoax.

They're letting all kinds of specialists have a go at it... they would be pretty dumb to do that if they concocted the whole thing! But, we'll see...

LOL... unless they aren't really specialists...!

violentblossom
15-08-08, 15:45
Why do people believe this rubbish? Its has been proven to be a hoax already. Well what do you expect.

yeps. case closed.

mmm...cookies
15-08-08, 15:46
"I want to believe"

siouxsiecrux
15-08-08, 15:48
"I want to believe"

"But belief does not make it true"

rowanlim
15-08-08, 15:50
Interesting news :tmb:

If it's true, there's another fascinating addition to the "things we don't know about Earth" list :)

siouxsiecrux
15-08-08, 15:51
Interesting news :tmb:

If it's true, there's another fascinating addition to the "things we don't know about Earth" list :)

It has been proven to be a hoax...

interstellardave
15-08-08, 15:52
Personally I'll always believe until proven otherwise. Bigfoot-type creatures are reported all over the place, often by credible people. So, whenever something comes up like this, I'm intruiged. I just can't stand it when people dismiss things immediately. Now, if it doesn't hold up, and the people who examine this thing are not credible, that's fine. I know there are plenty of hoaxes. It doesn't mean the next one won't be, though...


It has been proven to be a hoax...


The story isn't even 2 hours old yet! All I've seen is people refuting the word of those who claim to have evidence... so it's basically "he said, she said" from what I can see. That isn't proof either.

siouxsiecrux
15-08-08, 15:57
Personally I'll always believe until proven otherwise. Bigfoot-type creatures are reported all over the place, often by credible people. So, whenever something comes up like this, I'm intruiged. I just can't stand it when people dismiss things immediately. Now, if it doesn't hold up, and the people who examine this thing are not credible, that's fine. I know there are plenty of hoaxes. It doesn't mean the next one won't be, though...



The story isn't even 2 hours old yet! All I've seen is people refuting the evidence... so it's basically "he said, she said" from what I can see. That isn't proof either.

Well, in this logic i could state that there is an ultra-small tarantula circling the moon although in the present day it cannot be seen due to modern day telescopes not having the ability to see it due to them not being powerful enough. You are telling me that you believe in the tarantula just because you cannot see it or you do not have evidence against it?

SamReeves
15-08-08, 15:58
It'll be good for the bigfoot merchandise they sell up in Northern California. There's plenty of "sightings" there! :p

interstellardave
15-08-08, 16:02
Well, in this logic i could state that there is an ultra-small tarantula circling the moon although in the present day it cannot be seen due to modern day telescopes not having the ability to see it due to them not being powerful enough. You are telling me that you believe in the tarantula just because you cannot see it or you do not have evidence against it?

That isn't the same thing and you know it. Thousands of regular people, and credible professional people, claim to have seen bigfoot. I'll agree that it seems unlikely for such creatures to exist and avoid discovery (undisputed discovery) for so long, but the natural world continues to surprise us all the time, so it's possible. Such a creature would not be out of the ordinary, either, unlike a space-faring tarantula. I doubt the existence of that kind of creature could ever be proved-out, even in theory! :p

Agent 47
15-08-08, 16:05
That isn't the same thing and you know it. Thousands of regular people, and credible professional people, claim to have seen bigfoot. I'll agree that it seems unlikely for such creatures to exist and avoid discovery (undisputed discovery) for so long, but the natural world continues to surprise us all the time, so it's possible. Such a creature would not be out of the ordinary, either, unlike a space-faring tarantula. I doubt the existence of that kind of creature could ever be proved-out, even in theory! :p

if Bigfoot is related to the Yeti species then to dismiss Bigfoot's existence is foolish IMO

if the story you posted is indeed true, cool, a mystery solved :D

interstellardave
15-08-08, 16:08
if Bigfoot is related to the Yeti species then to dismiss Bigfoot's existence is foolish IMO

if the story you posted is indeed true, cool, a mystery solved :D

Agreed... obviously I'm not stating that it's fact, just that "hey, cnn has a bigfoot story right on the homepage!" That's all. And they say that specialists will examine it... how that works out, we'll see... if it's a hoax, it's a hoax... so be it!

Agent 47
15-08-08, 16:12
Agreed... obviously I'm not stating that it's fact, just that "hey, cnn has a bigfoot story right on the homepage!" That's all. And they say that specialists will examine it... how that works out, we'll see... if it's a hoax, it's a hoax... so be it!

indeed,but you know it's so easy for people to instantly dismiss things like this,because it goes against their thought process's,they fear the unknown :D

i'm open to the possibilities of it's potential existence

Tihocan9
15-08-08, 16:20
I hope it is real. Even though it may just be another hoax I want a new a big discovery to be made and I think Bigfoot is a pretty big discovery

Kiss-Bite
15-08-08, 16:21
If it's a hoax it obviously won't take long to find out. I'm open minded to the thought there are species yet not documented scientifically.;)

If it were true that would be amazing, but maybe somethings are better off remaining a mystery.:D If it is a real creature then it's species would need instant protection.;)

xXhayleyroxXx
15-08-08, 16:23
if thats real thats so cool!
:ton:

Benguitar
15-08-08, 17:24
*rolls eyes*

O-k... Personally that looks like a costume..

knightgames
15-08-08, 17:38
Rick Baker threw out all his old hollywood monkey costumes he designed, and someone found one. (King Kong 76, Tarzan: Legend of Greystoke, Gorillas in the Mist, and that god aweful Michael Crichton movie where tim Curry helped look for the Temple of Zing..... amongst other movies he's used monkey/gorillas) :D

rickybazire
15-08-08, 19:25
Weird. But I reckon DNA testing could be cool, unless that's already been done.

Autolycus
15-08-08, 19:59
This is such a wind imo. Lets get logical about this people it's just a costume.
Bigfoot is just a myth that came out of a story told by mountain treckers years ago thats all.

Twilight
15-08-08, 20:05
anything's possible. its possible that it really is bigfoot or that someone just made it up.

Lara Croft!
15-08-08, 20:08
Looks like a costume to me.

Autolycus
15-08-08, 20:09
anything's possible. its possible that it really is bigfoot or that someone just made it up.

Imo the whole Bigfoot thing you can pick too many holes in it to be real.

wmcintosh
15-08-08, 20:12
Hmmm, I'd have to say its a hoax.

dream raider
15-08-08, 22:02
Looks like a costume to me.

Exactly!

dizzydoil
15-08-08, 22:08
Exactly!

Indeed. Which is a shame, cos' theres a possibility of such a creature. =/

Angelus
15-08-08, 22:09
http://situbusit.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/i-want-to-believe.jpg

"I want to believe, Mulder."

wmcintosh
15-08-08, 22:35
Been known around here for decades...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigfoot

There is a town (Carson) about 30 minutes away from me that has a bigfoot (sasquatch) statue, and yet I find it hard to believe any of this nonsense.

Immortalis08
16-08-08, 02:53
When will the news pertaining to DNA and such be released? I realize that this may in fact be a hoax, but I am facinated by the mere possibility that a legend/myth such as this COULD be real...

Fallen.Angel
16-08-08, 04:02
Looks like a costume IMO. I could never fall for something like this.

Melonie Tomb Raider
16-08-08, 04:03
Looks fake :/

Immortalis08
16-08-08, 04:05
Definitely looks unauthentic, however I find that the possibility (while perhaps slim) is only a testament to how many things/species still lie undiscovered. I mean what if this WERE true...could that mean other myths and urban legends could be true as well?

Tyrannosaurus
16-08-08, 04:29
Personally I'd love it if bigfoot were real. But it's more than likely fake, like the Patterson footage.

MadCroy101
16-08-08, 04:45
I beileve in bigfoot, I just don't beileve their is enough evidence yet

Tomb of Legends
16-08-08, 04:52
Holy crap, Ive heard about this all week but missed the articles and reports (and pics)

Thanks, Im not sure what I think!

-DaNnEe..
16-08-08, 04:59
It's a guy in a suit.

:wve:

Nahhh, that's freaky! I reckon it could be him.

NightWish
16-08-08, 05:08
Im...very skeptical

Dia2blo
16-08-08, 05:23
Sooo, when are we going to find out if this is true or not???? and why wasn't it lara that discovered him:D

spikejones
18-08-08, 04:57
well seeing as how i accidentally made a thread about this not knowing this one was here:whi:

this had to have been burried under stuff im not interested in sorting through - plus its been inactive for a couple days - I'll go ahead and quote a post I made in the other one:


I believe a DNA test proved that it was in fact not a bigfoot corpse.
id be interested in a link to an article stating that. to be honest, I dont peruse the news very often, I was only linked this by a friend so.. Sound pretty interesting and it does seem somewhat shady that the guys who said they found the body had said there were smaller creatures which they would not disclose the location of. I know that I for one would grab one of them up as living proof.

But here's my view on it. If it has DNA, then it is a living creature. If there is no DNA, its a clever hoax. I'd be interested in hearing what the scientific community concludes about it. All that the article really states is that it was found and frozen by these two men. The date of the article is listed as being updated on the 15th of August. But it does not disclose what date the creature was turned over to expert examination. If the date of that was the 15, I believe that today - the 17th would be hasty of an examination of the specimin. I would think that examinations of that sort would take some length of time.

To add to that, a long standing theory that I had about big foot was that it was a person who had a genetic defect from birth which caused him to grow hair on all parts of the body. But now they are saying that there is a family of them, so that kinda throws my theory for a loop. BUT... where is the mother bigfoot at in all this?

violentblossom
18-08-08, 05:02
Sooo, when are we going to find out if this is true or not???? and why wasn't it lara that discovered him:D

it was false. they tested the thing's hair fibers and they were found to be mostly a mix of human and opossum hair. :D

spikejones
18-08-08, 05:11
it was false. they tested the thing's hair fibers and they were found to be mostly a mix of human and opossum hair. :D

sources people... sources....
how do you expect for someone to believe your statement without credible sources?

I know I for one found only one source thus far stating something about a dna test and that is on some IT consulting guys personal blog. I will link it now for anyone interested, but you have to take into account that this guy is not one who did the testing. Hes just a guy who does IT stuff. And notice that this guy did not even cite a source, so you have to take what he says with a grain of salt.

link (http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/08/bigfoot_dna_evi.html)


edit.. in reading further into detail, the body has not even been released to anyone and is still being kept in a freezer "awaiting professional autopsy" apparently only a "tissue sample" was released to DNA experts rather than the whole body. This whole thing is really fishy and only adds to the rumors of it being a hoax. I see no official documentation that there is any definitive findings on the DNA, which there no doubt will ever be until someone who is competent and unbiased is allowed to have custody of the body.

violentblossom
18-08-08, 05:13
sources people... sources....
how do you expect for someone to believe your statement without credible sources?

I know I for one found only one source thus far stating something about a dna test and that is on some IT consulting guys personal blog. I will link it now for anyone interested, but you have to take into account that this guy is not one who did the testing. Hes just a guy who does IT stuff. And notice that this guy did not even cite a source, so you have to take what he says with a grain of salt.

link (http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/08/bigfoot_dna_evi.html)


meh. the news telling me its fake is good enough for me. :D

besides that, that "body" looks really phoney.

spikejones
18-08-08, 05:21
^blind faith then? so did you believe it was real when the news said it was real, and then believe it was false when some other bit of news said it was false. I know that I for one am open minded to the existence of bigfoot, but the whole deal about this does seem shady. As I mentioned however, there seems to be no officially released documentation of the DNA results that I've been able to find as of yet.

link to an article linked from my last link (http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=bigfoot-expert-weighs-in-im-extreme-2008-08-14)

violentblossom
18-08-08, 05:26
^blind faith then? so did you believe it was real when the news said it was real, and then believe it was false when some other bit of news said it was false. I know that I for one am open minded to the existence of bigfoot, but the whole deal about this does seem shady. As I mentioned however, there seems to be no officially released documentation of the DNA results that I've been able to find as of yet.

link to an article linked from my last link (http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=bigfoot-expert-weighs-in-im-extreme-2008-08-14)

wouldn't call it blind faith, i've just never believed in the thing and never held out hope for its existance. therefore, if someone says its fake, then its ok. XD now, if they discover a mermaid somewhere, game on :whi:.

spikejones
18-08-08, 05:29
wouldn't call it blind faith, i've just never believed in the thing and never held out hope for its existance. therefore, if someone says its fake, then its ok. XD now, if they discover a mermaid somewhere, game on :whi:.

mermaids are the things of legend - manatees commonly mistaken for womanly figures by drunken horny sailors :D

violentblossom
18-08-08, 05:34
mermaids are the things of legend - manatees commonly mistaken for womanly figures by drunken horny sailors :D

i know this. O.~

but if some kinda odd mystical creature were to be found and i had my way, i'd choose mermaid.