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TRexbait
02-09-08, 23:42
I have gone to several places to search for a PS3. And, well, at some places, the workers say that PS3's can't play PS2 or PS1 games. Yet here on the forums, some people say that they play TR1 on their PS3.

So, just to officialise the infomation, could somebody please tell me if PS3's can or cannot play PS2 and PS1 games? :o

Dingaling
02-09-08, 23:43
ALL PS3's can play PS1 games.

Only the OLD 80GB US PS3s, 60GB PS3s and 20GB PS3s can play PS2 games all of which are now discontinued. You may still be able to find MGS4 80GB bundles which have Backwards Compatibility with PS2 games though if you're lucky. Either that or you'll have to buy a preowned version :).

TRexbait
02-09-08, 23:47
I live in the US...


MGS4? :confused: Ok... where could i find one...

Trigger_happy
03-09-08, 15:56
You'll have to look on Ebay and the like, or go into games shops and ask if they have any pre-owned ones. As mentioned, all the PS2 capable ones have been discontinued.

Rivendell
03-09-08, 16:45
ALL PS3's can play PS1 games.

Only the OLD 80GB US PS3s, 60GB PS3s and 20GB PS3s can play PS2 games all of which are now discontinued.

A year ago I bought a 40gb PS3, and that plays Ps2 games.
:wve:

ivannnnn
03-09-08, 16:47
The more the GB, the more games it can play? :confused:

Please answer. :)

Spikey
03-09-08, 16:53
A year ago I bought a 40gb PS3, and that plays Ps2 games.
:wve:

Really? :confused: Because my 40GB won't play PS2 games, and I've heard that all 40GBs are the same... (I didn't try every PS2 game in my collection though, just a handful...none of which worked)

Rivendell
03-09-08, 17:02
Really? :confused:

Looks like you're right. I just checked my system settings, and it says # / 55gb - so I guess I've got a 60gb after all. :D

Sweet, I've been under the impression I had a 40gb all along!

Lara Croft Fan Joe
03-09-08, 17:05
Wish mine played PS2 games. Ah well, here's to hoping some kind of patch is released (not going to happen :vlol:)

interstellardave
03-09-08, 17:15
I thought only the 60gb one could play PS2 games... I was lucky to get one of them a year or so after launch (they had been sitting on the shelves gathering dust around this way).

toxicraider
03-09-08, 17:26
OK

The 60 gig if you buy it in Japan or the USA, will have near perfect compatibility with both ps2 and ps1 games, This is because it practically has a ps2 inside it.

The 80 gig, 20 gig and 60 gig in Europe will have good compatibility with both, but doesn't have all the ps2 components, only some parts to help with emulation

The 40 gig and new 80 gig have 0 compatibility with ps2 games (at least for now), but equally good compatibilty with ps1 games as the other versions, if you have a ps2 then personally i see no real reason not to get this version (hard drives are like £60 for a 250 gig one, and it has full functionality unlike the 20 gig which lacks an internal wireless adapter.

TRexbait
04-09-08, 01:49
The main trend that i'm seeing is that 60 gigabites in the US will work. Now, is it 60 new version of the PS3, or an old verion.

Please say new...

Bustus
04-09-08, 09:10
This mess is one of the reasons why I'm reluctant to buy a PS3.

chakotay1
04-09-08, 10:24
DO NOT what ever you do wast your money on the BIGGEST JOKE and waste of space ever a PS3! And do not what ever you do give your money to a company that makes promises and then doesn't deliver them! Quote from Sony "OH the PS£ will be backwards compatible with all PS1 and PS2 games" Eh right! What do they do take out the Emotion engine which is the heart and soul of the PS2 and making you buy simulators which dont do ANYTHING!

6 months ago my brother went into GAME and asked about consoles and he told the assistant that he wanted a console to play shooting games on and was told to get the Xbox360! The assistant told him that all the PS3 was good for was Blu-Ray DVds but for games get the 360! I have seen COD4 on both and I can tell you that the 360 kicks the CRASP out of the PS£!

thanatos
04-09-08, 10:49
DO NOT what ever you do wast your money on the BIGGEST JOKE and waste of space ever a PS3! And do not what ever you do give your money to a company that makes promises and then doesn't deliver them! Quote from Sony "OH the PS£ will be backwards compatible with all PS1 and PS2 games" Eh right! What do they do take out the Emotion engine which is the heart and soul of the PS2 and making you buy simulators which dont do ANYTHING!

6 months ago my brother went into GAME and asked about consoles and he told the assistant that he wanted a console to play shooting games on and was told to get the Xbox360! The assistant told him that all the PS3 was good for was Blu-Ray DVds but for games get the 360! I have seen COD4 on both and I can tell you that the 360 kicks the CRASP out of the PS£!

Hmmm, well while I still believe the 360 is by far the better choice at the moment your argument is flawed, miss-informed and reeks of Fan-Boi logic.

I own both and have played COD4 on both and I can tell you there is no difference with graphics, nothing that would make you favour one over the other anyway. As far as graphic capabilities are concerned the PS3 certainly shows off with games like Ratchet and Clank and MGS4, but this is down to the developers as much as the console, Gears of War certainly holds its own in the looks department.

The reason I recommend 360 is one reason, game selection. The PS2 owned the last generation because of the huge and diverse choice of games. This generation it's the 360 that has that choice. With Microsoft throwing money around for exclusives doesn't help.

I would also like to see where Sony said the PS3 would be compatible with all PS2 games, I mean it's hardly like Microsoft have offered the best backwards compatibility in the world is it?!

Oh and I have absolutely NO idea what the hell this means: What do they do take out the Emotion engine which is the heart and soul of the PS2 and making you buy simulators which dont do ANYTHING!

kthnxbai
04-09-08, 12:09
DO NOT what ever you do wast your money on the BIGGEST JOKE and waste of space ever a PS3! And do not what ever you do give your money to a company that makes promises and then doesn't deliver them! Quote from Sony "OH the PS£ will be backwards compatible with all PS1 and PS2 games" Eh right! What do they do take out the Emotion engine which is the heart and soul of the PS2 and making you buy simulators which dont do ANYTHING!

6 months ago my brother went into GAME and asked about consoles and he told the assistant that he wanted a console to play shooting games on and was told to get the Xbox360! The assistant told him that all the PS3 was good for was Blu-Ray DVds but for games get the 360! I have seen COD4 on both and I can tell you that the 360 kicks the CRASP out of the PS£!


Oh god...

This is what's wrong with the gaming world

Both consoles have good points and bad points....don't be so childish.


Aaannnyyway

Basically, if you buy a new ps3 now, you won't be able to play ps2 games on it.

But, if you already have a ps2, why not just keep that, buy a new ps3 and save yourself the hassle. I'd recommend geting a hdmi cable for your ps3, so you can have both consoles connected at the same time too this way, so you can't even complain about havng to plug cables in and out all the time...

This is assuming you have a hdtv.

And if you don't have one, definatley save up and get one. They're not expensive at all. You'll get a 19 inch for €250-€300

TRexbait
05-09-08, 01:01
^Thanks, but judging about the information here, i'll most likley get a 60gb one...

b0bb13
05-09-08, 01:03
^Thanks, but judging about the information here, i'll most likley get a 60gb one...

Definitely,if you can find one!:tmb:

TRexbait
05-09-08, 01:22
^Thank you, it will be a task though...

Kento
05-09-08, 01:24
Definitely,if you can find one!:tmb:


I tried, but it was imposible to find one, so I bought the 40 gb PS3 . I keep my PS2 anyway :D , it is still alive .

b0bb13
05-09-08, 01:39
^Thank you, it will be a task though...

It certainly will.:)

I tried, but it was imposible to find one, so I bought the 40 gb PS3 . I keep my PS2 anyway :D , it is still alive .

Ditto.Couldn't find one,I was already desperate and I submitted and went to a local store and bought it for a high price,even though it had Uncharted,Spiderman 3(movie)and Bluray remote.:(:p
I'm gonna get a PS2 soon,hopefully,since there are so many good games coming out in the next few months.:D

chakotay1
05-09-08, 08:18
Hmmm, well while I still believe the 360 is by far the better choice at the moment your argument is flawed, miss-informed and reeks of Fan-Boi logic.

I own both and have played COD4 on both and I can tell you there is no difference with graphics, nothing that would make you favour one over the other anyway. As far as graphic capabilities are concerned the PS3 certainly shows off with games like Ratchet and Clank and MGS4, but this is down to the developers as much as the console, Gears of War certainly holds its own in the looks department.

The reason I recommend 360 is one reason, game selection. The PS2 owned the last generation because of the huge and diverse choice of games. This generation it's the 360 that has that choice. With Microsoft throwing money around for exclusives doesn't help.

I would also like to see where Sony said the PS3 would be compatible with all PS2 games, I mean it's hardly like Microsoft have offered the best backwards compatibility in the world is it?!

Oh and I have absolutely NO idea what the hell this means:

Thanatos when Sony released the PS3 they promised to keep the emotion engine (the name given to the PS2 CPU) in the PS3 to have full backwards compatibillity with the PS2 but they then went and dropped it from
the console to lower costs! In Europe we never got it despite still charging us £400 for the console! Instead the give us PS2 simulators which half the time dont work and a lot of PS2 games will not play on the console!

The PS3 has got better games Eh right! Like I said when my brother went to Game to get his he was told that if you want games get the 360 because all the Ps3 is about is Blu-Ray which is an expensive waste of time!

I have seen COD4 on HDtv because my brother has got an HDtv and it just blows the PS3 into the next universe! I too have seen COD4 on both (my friends son has the PS3) and on normal and the 360 just kicked the PS3s butt! I have seen Ratchet and Clank on the PS3 and quite frankly it cant compare to the graphics of the 360! Even the demo disc my brother put on kicked the living crap out of the PS3 andthat was on normal graphics!

Thanato almost all the big named games are comming out for both consoles. It seem to be the PS3 that has got some of the bigger names but it is still getting hammered!

Thanatos Sony have always been the worst console for graphics and sound! I have a GC and that just constantly blew the PS2 to crap!

Why do you think the PS3 is loosing this format wars even to an inferior console like the Wii? Because everyone know see Sony for what they are A company that brakes promises, charges extortionate amounts and constantly fails to deliver. Even thier other electronic departments are falling behind everyone else!

I have another friend who was Sony crazy and for xmas last year as a surprise he got the 360 and he LOVES it! He wouldn't go back to Sony if you paid him!

kthnxbai
05-09-08, 09:05
Thanatos when Sony released the PS3 they promised to keep the emotion engine (the name given to the PS2 CPU) in the PS3 to have full backwards compatibillity with the PS2 but they then went and dropped it from
the console to lower costs! In Europe we never got it despite still charging us £400 for the console! Instead the give us PS2 simulators which half the time dont work and a lot of PS2 games will not play on the console!

The PS3 has got better games Eh right! Like I said when my brother went to Game to get his he was told that if you want games get the 360 because all the Ps3 is about is Blu-Ray which is an expensive waste of time!

I have seen COD4 on HDtv because my brother has got an HDtv and it just blows the PS3 into the next universe! I too have seen COD4 on both (my friends son has the PS3) and on normal and the 360 just kicked the PS3s butt! I have seen Ratchet and Clank on the PS3 and quite frankly it cant compare to the graphics of the 360! Even the demo disc my brother put on kicked the living crap out of the PS3 andthat was on normal graphics!

Thanato almost all the big named games are comming out for both consoles. It seem to be the PS3 that has got some of the bigger names but it is still getting hammered!

Thanatos Sony have always been the worst console for graphics and sound! I have a GC and that just constantly blew the PS2 to crap!

Why do you think the PS3 is loosing this format wars even to an inferior console like the Wii? Because everyone know see Sony for what they are A company that brakes promises, charges extortionate amounts and constantly fails to deliver. Even thier other electronic departments are falling behind everyone else!

I have another friend who was Sony crazy and for xmas last year as a surprise he got the 360 and he LOVES it! He wouldn't go back to Sony if you paid him!

OH DEAR GOD...:hea:

I can't believe you said blu-ray is a waste of time......hehe...so what, you think hd dvd is better?
I remember this crap when dvds came out at first.

The Wii sells well because it's gimicky... No serious gamer would buy a wii for actual serious gaming....

And if someone else thinks the graphics are just as good on the ps3 (which they are) you have no right to bash them and tell them they're wrong.

And the GC graphics were better than the ps2??? Are you friggin kidding me?
Have you seen FFXII????

And, everyone knows that potentially, the graphics on the ps3 could be waaaaayyyy better than the 360...

I personally think it's just taking it's time to get started.... Developers aren't putting the time and effort into ps3 games and I'd imagine that will change fairly soon...

And I've never had a problem playing any ps2 games on my ps3
And yes I got it in Europe..It's not imported..... PAL version....

This thread was just for someone to find out about backwards compatibility of ps3's.... not to ask which console is better... So if you want to bash the ps3 and say how crap it is why don't you start a grops thread or something.


I don't mean to be mean or giving out but there's no need for you to be such a ***** about it

:)

thanatos
05-09-08, 09:53
OH DEAR GOD...:hea:

I can't believe you said blu-ray is a waste of time......hehe...so what, you think hd dvd is better?
I remember this crap when dvds came out at first.

The Wii sells well because it's gimicky... No serious gamer would buy a wii for actual serious gaming....

And if someone else thinks the graphics are just as good on the ps3 (which they are) you have no right to bash them and tell them they're wrong.

And the GC graphics were better than the ps2??? Are you friggin kidding me?
Have you seen FFXII????

And, everyone knows that potentially, the graphics on the ps3 could be waaaaayyyy better than the 360...

I personally think it's just taking it's time to get started.... Developers aren't putting the time and effort into ps3 games and I'd imagine that will change fairly soon...

And I've never had a problem playing any ps2 games on my ps3
And yes I got it in Europe..It's not imported..... PAL version....

This thread was just for someone to find out about backwards compatibility of ps3's.... not to ask which console is better... So if you want to bash the ps3 and say how crap it is why don't you start a grops thread or something.


I don't mean to be mean or giving out but there's no need for you to be such a ***** about it

:)

Yes thank you, you said everything I wanted too before I had the chance.

The PS3 is the more powerful machine, a fact not opinion, and while the PS3 doesn't have better graphics when the game is released on both systems, to say they are significantly worse is pure Fan-boy bull****. Ratchet and Clank has some of the best graphics I've ever seen on any game and to say they don't stand up to 360 graphics is ridiculous, but like I say that is just as much down to the developer as the power of the system.

There is one argument against the PS3 and that is the lack of games, something that will hopefully approve over time. I'm not debating that 360 isn't the better console at the moment, I believe it is and would recommend it over the PS3 any day of the week, but your argument is biased, ignorant, non-existent crap.

Now, lets get back to topic.

Samsdad
05-09-08, 13:49
Sony is currently marketing two models neither of which is BC with PS2 games. Both can play PS1 games. There are rumors that Sony is actively looking at a software simulation fix for BC but there is no firm confirmation of this.

chakotay1
05-09-08, 14:07
OH DEAR GOD...:hea:

I can't believe you said blu-ray is a waste of time......hehe...so what, you think hd dvd is better?
I remember this crap when dvds came out at first.

The Wii sells well because it's gimicky... No serious gamer would buy a wii for actual serious gaming....

And if someone else thinks the graphics are just as good on the ps3 (which they are) you have no right to bash them and tell them they're wrong.

And the GC graphics were better than the ps2??? Are you friggin kidding me?
Have you seen FFXII????

And, everyone knows that potentially, the graphics on the ps3 could be waaaaayyyy better than the 360...

I personally think it's just taking it's time to get started.... Developers aren't putting the time and effort into ps3 games and I'd imagine that will change fairly soon...

And I've never had a problem playing any ps2 games on my ps3
And yes I got it in Europe..It's not imported..... PAL version....

This thread was just for someone to find out about backwards compatibility of ps3's.... not to ask which console is better... So if you want to bash the ps3 and say how crap it is why don't you start a grops thread or something.


I don't mean to be mean or giving out but there's no need for you to be such a ***** about it

:)

I see you are another Sony fan boy who just canot accept the facts that Sony is total pants when it comes to consoles!

The PS3 better graphics than the 360:vlol::vlol::vlol: I have seen many games on both and the 360 just hammers it!!

Ohh wowwee one game that is better on PS2 than GC! I could name you a hundred games that were better on GC than the PS2! For instance SOUL CALIBUR 2 (PLAYED BOTH) RESIDENT EVIL 4, TOMB RAIDER LEGEND and many others! The GC was more powerful and faster than the PS2! Listen Dreamcast magazine was laughing at the PS2s specs and Sega chose GC for Sonic because they felt that it was the ONLY console that could handle them! And TIME AND AGAIN I have looked at reviews and seen the PS2s review and companies have had to tone down the graphics for it! The only reason the games improved on the PS2 was because they changed from CD-ROMS to DVD_ROMS.

Taking time to get started:confused: It has been out for almost 2 YEARS! How much time does it need! "And developers aren't putting in the time and effort" :cen: Get a grip if they didn't do that then no one would be buying it! They see that the 360 is a better console thats why! Listen 3rd party developers were making games that pushed the DC and GC to its limits from DAY1 so why would it be any different than then?:confused:

Also if there werent any issues with backwards compatibillity the why was there an ENTIRE website telling you what games can and cannot be played on the PS3! Also I took my copy of SC3 to my mates and it wouldn't work!

Blu-Ray big deal! Who cares I would rather spend £5 to £10 less for a normal DVD than for something giving only marginal better quality pictures on a format I hate!

So all in all Sony is a waste of space of a company. Its a failure and has always been a failure! I mean first up BETAMAX what a joke that was and now this! Here try this did you know that because of the PS3s failings they SACKED the guy who created the PS brand! For the first time in its histroy the PS is in a proper format wars and it is getting hammered because everyone finally sees what it is a piece of junk!

And see that there looking at a way to make it BC with PS2! Big deal the 360 and Wii are BC with the previous consoles And they will probably charge another fourtune to use it!! Microsoft and Ninty do not go around making promises then not keeping them! Oh and why do you think Sony have benn keeping the PS2 going eh? It is because if they scrapped it they would totally go down the tubes! It is the PS2 that is keeping them alive!!!

THE PS3 IS A JOKE PURE AND SIMPLE!

thanatos
05-09-08, 15:57
Blu-Ray big deal! Who cares I would rather spend £5 to £10 less for a normal DVD than for something giving only marginal better quality pictures on a format I hate!


Guess someone's a bit bitter they haven't got a HD tv.

I would comment the other points you made but I feel I've already addressed in my previous post. Also I don't think your points are thought out well enough to waste my time debating them any more.
I honestly think no other 360 fans are backing you up because your points so retarded no one want to be associated with you.

Agent 47
05-09-08, 16:05
Guess someone's a bit bitter they haven't got a HD tv.

I would comment the other points you made but I feel I've already addressed in my previous post. Also I don't think your points are thought out well enough to waste my time debating them any more.
I honestly think no other 360 fans are backing you up because your points so retarded no one want to be associated with you.

indeed,

biased ignorant fanboy crap is what you said, having read the thread i tend to agree.

this guy is simply trying to bait people so just ignore the troll, his posts are also very misinformed and contains no basis in fact :D

thanatos
05-09-08, 16:11
indeed,

biased ignorant fanboy crap is what you said, having read the thread i tend to agree.

this guy is simply trying to bait people so just ignore the troll, his posts are also very misinformed and contains no basis in fact :D

I'm a bit ashamed I responded to his trolling in the first place, but comments like his are what turn console comparisons and debates into console war, fanboyism threads. I've had disagreements with you before Agent 47 but I could see all your comments in those threads were well informed and simply differences in opinion!

Agent 47
05-09-08, 16:22
I'm a bit ashamed I responded to his trolling in the first place, but comments like his are what turn console comparisons and debates into console war, fanboyism threads. I've had disagreements with you before Agent 47 but I could see all your comments in those threads were well informed and simply differences in opinion!

i'm humbled thanks :D

i'm interested to learn how the statement about Sony being a failure was reached :confused: if that were true they'd be bankrupt yes? maybe the poster is just bitter that they make more money in a day than he does in a month.

petujaymz
05-09-08, 16:29
ALL PS3's can play PS1 games.

Only the OLD 80GB US PS3s, 60GB PS3s and 20GB PS3s can play PS2 games all of which are now discontinued. You may still be able to find MGS4 80GB bundles which have Backwards Compatibility with PS2 games though if you're lucky. Either that or you'll have to buy a preowned version :).




What made Sony discontinue them? I just don't get it... WHY?

I mean, backwards compatibility takes nothing away from the PS3.

It doesn't make sense.

:wve:

Kiss-Bite
05-09-08, 16:36
I have the 60GB which does play PS2 games. Do all new ones not? That sucks!:( I think backwards compatibility is a real bonus but obviously not essential.

I remember when the emotion chip was taken out of the European PS3's & replaced with an inferior software.:( The US still got the emotion chip on launch a quite some time after. The PS3 cost more here but had an inferior part, all to save Sony money!:hea:

Agent 47
05-09-08, 16:39
What made Sony discontinue them? I just don't get it... WHY?

I mean, backwards compatibility takes nothing away from the PS3.

It doesn't make sense.

:wve:

the cheaper non b/c version models were selling better than the expensive one, so Sony made a decision to remove PS2 b/c to save costs. also add the PS2 is still selling well so Sony may also have held the view b/c isn't important to people :D

all expensive launch PS3's had PS2 b/c so Sony technically did keep it's promise :vlol:

and Samsdad is right in that b/c is RUMOURED to return via firmware update

Samsdad
05-09-08, 16:41
What made Sony discontinue them? I just don't get it... WHY?

I mean, backwards compatibility takes nothing away from the PS3.

It doesn't make sense.

:wve:

Manufactoring cost, plain and simple. The PS3 at launch was just to costly for most gamers.
To become competitive Sony had to cut costs somewhere and BC was the area that they chose to remove.

toxicraider
05-09-08, 18:37
What made Sony discontinue them? I just don't get it... WHY?

I mean, backwards compatibility takes nothing away from the PS3.

It doesn't make sense.

:wve:

I guess if ps2s are still being sold at £100 then the components must still be a little pricy to manufacture so if it cuts costs then they might still sell better, especially in attracting ps2 owners who might already have their ps2. I've tried ps1 games, and it can make it look much nicer on a larger tv but for ps2 it doesn't bother me, i have a small tv for that and it looks very nice as it is. Sure i would welcome any full software emulation if achievable but for now it's not a worry to me.