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Mytly
08-11-08, 14:24
I am planning to buy a new PC soon, and one of the main reasons is that I want to enjoy TRU in its full glory. These are the specs for one of the PCs I have shortlisted. It meets almost all the required specs for TRU, except perhaps the graphics card, which I am not sure about. How well would TRU run on it?

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2200 (2.2GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
Vista Home Premium 32-bit
2GB SDRAM Memory
256 MB ATI Radeon HD 3450 DDR2

Any help wuold be appreciated. :)

irjudd
08-11-08, 15:02
Manufacturers always skimp on the graphics card, and this case is no different. Try to get them to put something like a Radeon 3850 at least.

EscondeR
08-11-08, 16:19
^ Fully agree, 512Mb VRAM won't be useless also :)

Ring_of_Fire
08-11-08, 17:44
Add in another 2GBs of RAM for maxiumum performance since you are on Vista, and get a Radeon HD 4870 which has *800* pixel shaders! (CrossFireX not needed).

irjudd
08-11-08, 20:05
Add in another 2GBs of RAM for maxiumum performance since you are on Vista, and get a Radeon HD 4870 which has *800* pixel shaders! (CrossFireX not needed).
A.) 4GB RAM is NOT necessary to run any game on Vista, and the fact that the thread starter has Vista 32 bit makes it even less useful to do that.

B.) Radeon HD 4870 while indeed a great video card, is also overkill unless this person has money to burn.

Try your best not to make people think they need a multi-thousand dollar computer just to run TRU.

Muhammad
08-11-08, 21:12
Try your best not to make people think they need a multi-thousand dollar computer just to run TRU.

Well, RoF did say "CrossFireX not needed", but other than that the setup he mentioned is enough to run Crysis on high,1024x768, 30fps so yeah it is probably an overkill for TRU

EscondeR
08-11-08, 22:37
and get a Radeon HD 4870 which has *800* pixel shaders! (CrossFireX not needed).

Not "pixel shaders", but Processing Units.
And AFAIK Mytly is not going to throw bucks in the wind for nothing :mis:

Ring_of_Fire
09-11-08, 04:01
Alright stick to 2GBs since that is the recommended (even though the minimum for this game on Vista is also 2GBs.)

The Radeon HD 4850 is cheaper than the 4870 and is the best bang for buck I heard. It is still slighlty better than GeForce 9800GTX+.

The Radeon HD 4850 replaces the 3850... :D


Try your best not to make people think they need a multi-thousand dollar computer just to run TRU. http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=566&card2=546 - Radeon 4850 will be better because it will play games smoothly even at max resolution.

Just trying to make sure they play TRU with all settings maxed out and at a framerate of 30fps or more.

If Radeon 4850 is still an overkill, then we have the ATi Radeon HD 4830!

See this is why I hate upgrading computers, if you upgrade just to match the specs needed to run one specific game, you will end up having problems in the near future when newer games or perhaps the newer Tomb Raider comes out. It's best to just buy a console.

Alright fine, let the thread starter buy a Radeon HD 3850 then. Hopefully the CPU doesn't need to be upgraded as well.

Rinnerz
09-11-08, 14:00
Alright fine, let the thread starter buy a Radeon HD 3850 then. Hopefully the CPU doesn't need to be upgraded as well.

I'm running the TRU demo with all settings maxed out, with a dual-core processor at the exact same speed at his with zero issues. This is with a Radeon HD 3850 and a mere 256 MB VRAM. The only things to note here are: 1) I have 2 GB of DDR2 RAM, not SDRAM; 2) I am running Windows XP Pro, not the more resource-hungry Vista, and 3) playing TRU with a resolution higher than 1280x1024 (even with lower AA settings) is impossible with my setup.

I would definitely recommend him trying to get at least the 512 MB version of that card though, otherwise he would be limited in terms of resolutions and more recent, demanding gaming in the near future. With the 4850 replacing the 3850 this year, the 512 MB 3850's should be going for affordable prices. Alternatively, shelling out a little extra for a 4850 would be so worth it IMO :tmb:

tha_mattster
09-11-08, 14:02
Can you upgrade a laptop's graphics card? ?? ? ?

Rinnerz
09-11-08, 14:05
Can you upgrade a laptop's graphics card? ?? ? ?

:( Not usually, no. It's why I sold my old one and built this "computron" a year ago...

tha_mattster
09-11-08, 14:32
computron? Sounds retro lol.

Oh well...too bad for me.

Rinnerz
09-11-08, 14:46
computron? Sounds retro lol.

Hah, yeah. It's just what I call my computer these days :)

Oh well...too bad for me.

:( Indeed.

Mytly
09-11-08, 21:09
Manufacturers always skimp on the graphics card, and this case is no different. Try to get them to put something like a Radeon 3850 at least.
^ Fully agree, 512Mb VRAM won't be useless also :)
Thanks. :) So basically the 3450 is definitely not the right card, 3850 would be better, right? Also what about NVidia cards, which one would be a good one for TRU? And just out of curiosity, is there any overall difference between ATI Radeon and NVIdia graphics cards?

I'm running the TRU demo with all settings maxed out, with a dual-core processor at the exact same speed at his with zero issues. This is with a Radeon HD 3850 and a mere 256 MB VRAM. The only things to note here are: 1) I have 2 GB of DDR2 RAM, not SDRAM; 2) I am running Windows XP Pro, not the more resource-hungry Vista, and 3) playing TRU with a resolution higher than 1280x1024 (even with lower AA settings) is impossible with my setup.

I would definitely recommend him trying to get at least the 512 MB version of that card though, otherwise he would be limited in terms of resolutions and more recent, demanding gaming in the near future. With the 4850 replacing the 3850 this year, the 512 MB 3850's should be going for affordable prices. Alternatively, shelling out a little extra for a 4850 would be so worth it IMO :tmb:
So the 3850 is good, the 4850 is better? Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. But I'm not sure it will fit my budget, even the setup I mentioned in my original post is going well over what I intended to spend. :(

EscondeR
10-11-08, 07:54
3450 can meet issues in TRU. 3850 won't :tmb:

Nvidia cards are slightly better in matter of wide compatibility.

Muhammad
10-11-08, 09:52
Also what about NVidia cards, which one would be a good one for TRU?

NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512 vram will suit most of your gaming needs including TRU of course. :)

ivannnnn
10-11-08, 09:56
I've been waiting for nVidia to update my graphic cards yet the email hasn't come out yet...:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Mytly
11-11-08, 15:59
I just bought a new PC. :yah: Unfortunately, the manufacturers refused to upgrade the graphics card, so I'll have to do that at my own expense later on. :hea: But I don't really care at the moment, I've been looking for a new PC for the last 2 1/2 months, I'm just glad to get it over with. :D

Legend Killer
11-11-08, 17:17
Congrats on your new purchase Mytly! :tmb:
Let us know which route you go with the video card please. :)

I am outdated here as well and am pricing out components for a new build as well. I'm still undecided on the video card choice though.