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fondantcookie
09-11-08, 06:42
Hey all.

I haven't been on the forums in a while as i'm trying to avoid major spoilors for underworld.

Anyways i'm off traveling at the moment and am currently in Australia. Since my PS3 is all the way back in the UK I *need* a way to play TR:U asap... Lol

I'm looking into buying a new laptop but am a little overwhelmed with all the technical specifications out there...

Please can you tell me if the following laptop meets the requirements to play TR:U. I found it on the internet for a pretty decent price and sells itself as a "gaming laptop"...

Specifications:

* Intel Core 2 Duo processor T5250 (equal 2x 1.5GHz single core PC)
* Genuine Microsoft® Windows® Vista Home Premium (add $99 for XP Pro)
* 1GB DDR2-667 RAM (FREE Upgrade to 2G RAM)
* 160GB 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive with enhanced Acer DASP (Disk Anti-Shock Protection)
* ATI Mobility Radeon™ X2500 with up to 1024 MB of HyperMemory™ (256 MB of dedicated DDR2 VRAM, up to 768 MB of shared system memory) supporting Microsoft® DirectX® 9 and PCI Express®
* 15.4" WXGA CrystalBrite(GLOSSY) widescreen with WXGA Resolution 1280x800
* 6 cell Long life Lithium Ion battery Up to 3.5-hour battery life
* DVD-Super Multi Dual Layer drive
* Built-In Webcam
* 10/100/1000 LAN & Built-in 56Kbps international fax/modem
* 802.11a/b/g Wireless with SignalUp wireless technology
* 5-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS Pro/xD)
* Built-in Bluetooth® 2.0+EDR (Enhanced Data Rate)
* 4 x USB 2.0, 1 x 1394 Firewire port, 1x S-Video, 1 x Microphone-in/Line-in port
1 x Ethernet (RJ-45) port, 1 x Modem (RJ-11) port
* 1 year pickup & return warranty: Repair service is available in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Canberra, Adelaide, Hobart, Auckland, Christchurch & Wellington.
* Software and Utilities: Acer Empowering Technology (Acer eNet, ePower, ePresentation, eDataSecurity, eLock, eRecovery, eSettings Management), Acer Crystal Eye, Acer GridVista™, Acer Launch Manager, Acer Video Conference Manager1, Adobe® Reader®, CyberLink® PowerDVD®, Microsoft® Office Ready 2007, Norton Internet Security™, NTI CD-Maker™, NTI Shadow™ Cable lock slot, BIOS / user / supervisor & HDD passwords, DASP hard disk protection (impact damper)"

Completely confused.... And i have no clue...

Alternatively if anyone knows of a decent (and relatviely cheap) laptop on the internet that would be good to play TR:U on....please let me know!

Much appreciated guys !

markoscodes
09-11-08, 07:56
Yes, you will be able to play TRU. The graphics card of this notebook supports Pixel and Vertex Shader 3.0. The only thing you should be aware about is that Windows Vista slows your computer up to 70% down, So considering of paying 99$ more for is really better.

croft94
09-11-08, 08:05
Cool, but i would suggest u get a desktop:)

markoscodes
09-11-08, 08:07
Cool, but i would suggest u get a desktop:)

He wants a notebook simply because he's always abroad. He already has a PS3.

rowanlim
09-11-08, 08:34
I have a Dell laptop, bought it 3 yrs ago, but I was told that I can't play it :( I'm a noob so forgive me; could I get a graphic card or something so that I can play it? My problem now is I can't launch Direct 3D :(

I don't think my parents will buy a new desktop for me to play TRU :(

Punaxe
09-11-08, 13:50
fondantcookie, how much are you paying for that one? My girlfriend recently (couple of months ago) got a really good Acer (much better than the one you mention) for about 800 euros. Is that too pricey?

If so I would definitely take the free upgrade to 2GB RAM, because 1GB is not recommendable.

tombraiderluka
09-11-08, 13:53
I have an Acer 18.4 '' , it's amazing how it works :D

EscondeR
09-11-08, 19:01
fondantcookie, how much are you paying for that one?
Fair question.


About some specs:

* Genuine Microsoft® Windows® Vista Home Premium (add $99 for XP Pro) - go for XP
* 1GB DDR2-667 RAM (FREE Upgrade to 2G RAM) - Get 2 Gb
* ATI Mobility Radeon™ X2500 with up to 1024 MB of HyperMemory™ (256 MB of dedicated DDR2 VRAM, up to 768 MB of shared system memory) supporting Microsoft® DirectX® 9 and PCI Express® - A low end video board, better get ATI Radeon HD 2900 at least
* Software and Utilities: Acer Empowering Technology (Acer eNet, ePower, ePresentation, eDataSecurity, eLock, eRecovery, eSettings Management), Acer Crystal Eye, Acer GridVista™, Acer Launch Manager, Acer Video Conference Manager1, Norton Internet Security™ - kill those as soon as you get hands on the laptop (if).

Wana b like Lara
09-11-08, 19:16
Is this PC any good?

Intel Core 2 Extreme Edition QX9650 (3.46GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 12MB Cache)
Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium Dual
1GB ATI Radeon HD 3870 graphics
4GB DDR3 1333MHz memory
H2C Hybrid Liquid Cooling
1TB hard drive (2x 500GB SATA Raid 0)
8 USB and 2 Firewire connections
10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet

btc8
09-11-08, 19:28
Is this PC any good?

Intel Core 2 Extreme Edition QX9650 (3.46GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 12MB Cache)
Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium Dual
1GB ATI Radeon HD 3870 graphics
4GB DDR3 1333MHz memory
H2C Hybrid Liquid Cooling
1TB hard drive (2x 500GB SATA Raid 0)
8 USB and 2 Firewire connections
10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet

You're not serious, are you?

Wana b like Lara
09-11-08, 20:19
Erm ... why?

btc8
09-11-08, 23:22
Erm ... why?

Anyone who uses liquid cooling has to know a thing or two about computers, and generally, those with cooling are high end models. It makes no sense to me for you to ask if a core 2 extreme with a 1 GB 3870 is any good.

fondantcookie
10-11-08, 00:13
fondantcookie, how much are you paying for that one? My girlfriend recently (couple of months ago) got a really good Acer (much better than the one you mention) for about 800 euros. Is that too pricey?

If so I would definitely take the free upgrade to 2GB RAM, because 1GB is not recommendable.

Hey Punaxe...

800 Euros is well within budget for the laptop. So do you have any idea where your girlfriend bought it from?

Was it an online site? And if so do you possibly have a link?

Also, do you know if it runs the TR:U demo at all?

Thanks loads for your help :D

fondantcookie
10-11-08, 00:36
UPDATE: Second Laptop Option!

***Please help!***

Hey all. Me again...

After getting mixed reviews about the first laptop I posted I looked again on the good old internet for another gaming laptop capable of playing TR:U...

I found a second one, a Toshiba Tecra. The sepcs are posted below

*Toshiba Tecra A7 notebook
*INCREDIBLE Intel Centrino Core Duo 1.66Ghz with 2MB Cache 667Mhz Bus (INTEL CORE DUO acts like 2 processors in one!) combining with Intel Pro 802.11a/b/g WiFi
*BIG 1GB DDR2 667 Mhz Ram
*Gamers spec ATI Radeon X1600 512MB PCI Express Video Card !
*STUNNING 15.4 Inch WXGA Wide Screen with an AMAZING 1280 x 800 resolution!
*LARGE 60GB SATA Hard Drive (100GB HDD with Buy It Now!)
*DVD+/-RW Drive
*LOUD Intel high definition audio Realtek ALC861 16 Bit Sound
*PCMCIA slot, Express card slot, Parallel Port, 4xUSB 2.0, S-Video Out, Firewire 1394, RGB Monitor, S-Video Out, headphone/ microphone jack.
*Dual Touchpad and Acupoint Mouse
*Built In 56K Modem
*Built in Gigabit 10/100/1000 Lan Card
*5 in 1 Media Reader/Writer : SD, MMC, Memory Stick/Pro, XD
*WiFi (Intel Pro 802.11a/b/g) Wireless
*BLUETOOTH
*Biometric Security with advanced fingerprint sensor with Toshiba Fingerprint Technology
*Battery (holds charge)
*Power Supply
*Weight: 2.72 Kilos
*Windows XP Professional with Licence and Media on CDR.

Thsi one appears to have abetter graphics card... And also has XP Pro so should run a little quicker than Vista... (I think..)... Though as I said, my knowlege of computers/laptops is minimal at best!!!

Thanks in advance :wve:

btc8
10-11-08, 02:27
UPDATE: Second Laptop Option!

***Please help!***

Hey all. Me again...

After getting mixed reviews about the first laptop I posted I looked again on the good old internet for another gaming laptop capable of playing TR:U...

I found a second one, a Toshiba Tecra. The sepcs are posted below

*Toshiba Tecra A7 notebook
*INCREDIBLE Intel Centrino Core Duo 1.66Ghz with 2MB Cache 667Mhz Bus (INTEL CORE DUO acts like 2 processors in one!) combining with Intel Pro 802.11a/b/g WiFi
*BIG 1GB DDR2 667 Mhz Ram
*Gamers spec ATI Radeon X1600 512MB PCI Express Video Card !
*STUNNING 15.4 Inch WXGA Wide Screen with an AMAZING 1280 x 800 resolution!
*LARGE 60GB SATA Hard Drive (100GB HDD with Buy It Now!)
*DVD+/-RW Drive
*LOUD Intel high definition audio Realtek ALC861 16 Bit Sound
*PCMCIA slot, Express card slot, Parallel Port, 4xUSB 2.0, S-Video Out, Firewire 1394, RGB Monitor, S-Video Out, headphone/ microphone jack.
*Dual Touchpad and Acupoint Mouse
*Built In 56K Modem
*Built in Gigabit 10/100/1000 Lan Card
*5 in 1 Media Reader/Writer : SD, MMC, Memory Stick/Pro, XD
*WiFi (Intel Pro 802.11a/b/g) Wireless
*BLUETOOTH
*Biometric Security with advanced fingerprint sensor with Toshiba Fingerprint Technology
*Battery (holds charge)
*Power Supply
*Weight: 2.72 Kilos
*Windows XP Professional with Licence and Media on CDR.

Thsi one appears to have abetter graphics card... And also has XP Pro so should run a little quicker than Vista... (I think..)... Though as I said, my knowlege of computers/laptops is minimal at best!!!

Thanks in advance :wve:

The graphics card will hold you back. Despite the fact that it does have 512 MB of RAM, the chipset is very low end. Your processor is okay, but your graphics card probably won't be able to handle TRU even in low settings. The RAM is very low and clocked low (667 MHz)--if you can, just go for Vista, you'll usually be able to find most laptops with 4 GB DDR2 sometimes at 800 MHz that run Vista. As Vista does require more memory than XP, you'll benefit more from higher amounts of RAM.

If you're looking for something affordable with some power, try HP. They are very reasonable and usually you can find some very good deals.

BTW, what is your price range?

Ring_of_Fire
10-11-08, 02:56
Is this PC any good?

Intel Core 2 Extreme Edition QX9650 (3.46GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 12MB Cache)
Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium Dual
1GB ATI Radeon HD 3870 graphics
4GB DDR3 1333MHz memory
H2C Hybrid Liquid Cooling
1TB hard drive (2x 500GB SATA Raid 0)
8 USB and 2 Firewire connections
10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet
I am assuming you haven't even bought yourself a Gaming PC and played TRU yet.

Yes, it's good! Buy it now! :D

Make sure you get the 64-bit version of Windows Vista Home Premoium so that you can use up the full 4GBs of RAM

I found a second one, a Toshiba Tecra. The sepcs are posted below
First where you plan to shop? Canada Computers, Future Shop, The Source, Staples, Best Buy, Walmart, CompuSmart.

Do you live in the US? Are you going to shop at Circuit City, Office Depot, Walmart, Staples, CompUSA?


I don't have time to look up good computers on eBay/Amazon.

Rydell
10-11-08, 03:34
Is this PC any good?

Intel Core 2 Extreme Edition QX9650 (3.46GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 12MB Cache)
Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium Dual
1GB ATI Radeon HD 3870 graphics
4GB DDR3 1333MHz memory
H2C Hybrid Liquid Cooling
1TB hard drive (2x 500GB SATA Raid 0)
8 USB and 2 Firewire connections
10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet

Nope, nope, not at all. It's pretty crappy. :rolleyes:

fondantcookie
10-11-08, 04:01
The graphics card will hold you back. Despite the fact that it does have 512 MB of RAM, the chipset is very low end. Your processor is okay, but your graphics card probably won't be able to handle TRU even in low settings. The RAM is very low and clocked low (667 MHz)--if you can, just go for Vista, you'll usually be able to find most laptops with 4 GB DDR2 sometimes at 800 MHz that run Vista. As Vista does require more memory than XP, you'll benefit more from higher amounts of RAM.

If you're looking for something affordable with some power, try HP. They are very reasonable and usually you can find some very good deals.

BTW, what is your price range?

Thanks for your help btc8. MUCH appreciated...

I've gone online and visited HP, and they suggest THIS laptop to me:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/au/en/ho/WF06b/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-3744201-3828078.html :wve:

They say it more than meets the minimal requirements set by tombraider.com... Do you agree? And is this much better than the two previous laptops I posted?

My price range is really upto $AU1500 .... SO if you have any online recommendations then that would be WICKED....

Thanks in advance for your help. You're a legend :)

!!!

Ring_of_Fire
10-11-08, 04:50
If you are buying a new laptop just for TRU, then it'd be much cheaper to buy a console! lol

Laptops are expensive than desktops and they have much weaker specs than it at the same price. I think the best recommendation is an Xbox 360. You will get DLC, and any laptop that cost $1500 is guaranteed to perform weaker than the Xbox 360 running TRU at max settings. Anyway, you should buy a desktop rather than a laptop.

Point is that the Radeon™ HD 3450 Graphics is a weak graphics card and is the reason why it isn't listed under the system requirements for TRU (Turion X2 ####+ is also a weak CPU and it is not +2.5GHz - Core 2 Duo/Centrino much better). You need to increase your budget/price range or buy a console.


Here's the desktop computer below your budget. Have fun :) - http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_420?c=au&cs=audhs1&l=en&s=dhs (In australian dollars).

Although Dell XPS 630 is the recommended desktop for TRU according to Can You RUN It? - this one is good as well.

btc8
10-11-08, 16:54
Thanks for your help btc8. MUCH appreciated...

I've gone online and visited HP, and they suggest THIS laptop to me:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/au/en/ho/WF06b/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-3744201-3828078.html :wve:

They say it more than meets the minimal requirements set by tombraider.com... Do you agree? And is this much better than the two previous laptops I posted?

My price range is really upto $AU1500 .... SO if you have any online recommendations then that would be WICKED....

Thanks in advance for your help. You're a legend :)

!!!

Apparently, it's harder to find reasonably priced laptops, or any other merchandise that is technological, in places other than the US. Here is one that seems to be okay from HP, but it's a few hundred dollars above your threshold:

HP Pavilion dv4-1100 Special Edition Entertainment Notebook PC series (http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/au/en/ho/WF06a/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-3794954.html)

But honestly, I'm a bit confuzzled because of how much more expensive things are outside of US in terms of computers. I know you'd like to travel, but I agree with Ring_Of_Fire, and that it would be much cheaper to buy a console--not to mention that you wouldn't have to worry about the specifications!

Ring_of_Fire
10-11-08, 17:22
NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS is not supported by TRU. It will function at reduced performance stated in the ReadME. Desktop has better specs than laptops at the same or even less price! :D

Buy a Dell XPS 420 desktop. http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_420?c=au&cs=audhs1&l=en&s=dhs

If you want badly a laptop for gaming, then buy http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1530?c=au&cs=audhs1&l=en&s=dhs - it costs $2000 and is slightly weaker than the Dell XPS 420.


The only advantage is that the laptop has 4GB of RAM and 8600M GT. But the Dell XPS 420 has a QUAD core processor with Radeon HD 3650 + 2GB of RAM!

EscondeR
10-11-08, 17:41
My price range is really upto $AU1500 .... SO if you have any online recommendations then that would be WICKED....


You're lucky :) Look HERE (http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=Asus_Laptop_G1SN-AK014C) - exactly for you and your budget (and it's a blast really) :tmb:

And if you can add more, then choose a better model from THAT (http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/products.php?cat=56) page.

markoscodes
10-11-08, 17:52
You're lucky :) Look HERE (http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=Asus_Laptop_G1SN-AK014C) - exactly for you and your budget (and it's a blast really) :tmb:

And if you can add more, then choose a better model from THAT (http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/products.php?cat=56) page.

It is still quite expensive. But the specifications are good :)

EscondeR
10-11-08, 17:55
It's less than 1500 $ AU, and definitely less than 2000$ :p

Ring_of_Fire
10-11-08, 17:57
The TRU Readme said that the GeForce 9500 is not supported and would function at reduced performance. :/

EscondeR
10-11-08, 18:07
1. >>Graphic Cards which may function but performance may be reduced.
...
GeForce 9400/9500 series
...

2. That's why I gave a link to the whole G-series, the second model (http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=Asus_Laptop_G50V-EP048C) ( £833.00) fits, still less than 2000$ :p

Punaxe
11-11-08, 00:02
Hey Punaxe...

800 Euros is well within budget for the laptop. So do you have any idea where your girlfriend bought it from?

Was it an online site? And if so do you possibly have a link?

Also, do you know if it runs the TR:U demo at all?

Thanks loads for your help :D

It wasn't online, it was in a Dutch store called Computerland, but perhaps you can find a similar model in Australia.

It was an Acer Aspire 5920 with:
Intel Core 2 Duo T5550 1,83 GHz
4GB RAM
nVidia GeForce 8600M GT 512 MB
DVD RW and Blu-Ray
250 GB HD
A subwoofer (!?)

This was about half a year ago I think, it's slightly slower than EscondeR's suggestion and has a lesser graphics card, but a bit more RAM and Blu-Ray...

How well it is suited for TRU I'll let other people on here judge because I don't know much about that, but as has been said if it's solely to play TRU a console is cheaper and you can buy a desktop with the money you have left.

john_york
13-11-08, 14:24
Work just bought me an ergo vista 721. While it can't run TRU on full settings, I've got it set at pretty much full and it runs nicely.

Not sure how much it cost, but it's a nice little machine.

Barry Matharoo
13-11-08, 14:53
i am getting this one
will this be able to run tru

DELL STUDIO 15 (http://dellstoreroa02.sg.dell.com/public/cart/pb_cart_main.jsp?frompage=content&prd_id=43234&uvst=02044698448136656&sr_no=1&session_id=33194964)

i also asked if graphic card update was available and they said it can be updated to

256 MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450

so will it be able to run

EscondeR
13-11-08, 17:24
256 MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450


This video board will have issues in TRU most likely.