View Full Version : New swan dive ...
Yea or nay?
Poll by request.
I liked the 'old' one better :o
i thought it was pretty cool...when you jump mid air and rpess roll its much higher.....i was bothered by the glitch on the stairs though...lara would roll down...
I don't see the difference.
Don't really like it. It's too fast. AOD's animations still remain on top.
TombRaiderLover
11-11-08, 07:27
Way too fast. ;)
Don't really like it. It's too fast. AOD's animations still remain on top.
honestly, this dive really reminds me of the AOD dive. and that's what I don't like about it. it's too "effortless" and smooth...or something.
really, if they could just get something akin to the classic (1-5) dive...;)
I'm indifferent. It's pretty, but it's not going to ruin my gameplay, ya know?
Alister's_Brain
11-11-08, 08:01
Which dive are we talking about here?
The in game or the one in the tv trailer?
I have a feeling they weren't finished with the diving animation since it was a very old demo.
It's a bit too fast, feels less graceful.
Starts out well, l like how if you are a bit late pressing the roll button she will still do the swan dive, but no swans do not drop like rocks. l prefer any of the older animations to this one.
ajrich17901
11-11-08, 08:16
Dont care its only an extra move
tha_mattster
11-11-08, 08:27
It's too quick - just like most of her moves in TRU.
It's far too fast an ungraceful.
I hope they slow it down for the next game!
Nope. Way too quick and just.. weird.
Vintage Croft
11-11-08, 09:26
too quick and too vertical
I will vote in 10 days from today :jmp:
george_croft
11-11-08, 09:36
Haven't played the demo yet, but a huge nay if its anything like the stiff TRL/TRA swan dive.
It makes the legend / TRA dives look better, george. :(
Even though I'm in love with TRU, I still think the swan dive is ****....
Aquarius_D
11-11-08, 09:59
Sorry, but I don't like it as well. It's too short. Feels very anti-climatic:(
that and the camera. Everything else is awesome:jmp:
ColdCaseDetK
11-11-08, 11:22
It's fine with me. ;)
It is a bit too fast for my liking (same with the 'free climbing') but it's certainly not a deal-breaker.
Slo-mo swan dives of high walls, cliffs, etc., would be nice though.
I think I dont.
I'd like to see some less monkeyish animations.
I haven't seen it yet. :wve:
I have mixed feelings for Underworld's swan dive!!
I prefered the one from Annivversary
and
Legend..!:(:(
S*x O o x
Way too fast. ;)
Yeah - but I voted for the last option cos there's some other purdy moves that kinda make up for it.
Tombraiderx08
11-11-08, 12:35
i like all the movements ive seen so far, motion captured or not, :)
well it was motion captured right?
so if it was then its the most realistic it can get isn't it?
sandygrimm
11-11-08, 13:00
It may be more realistic..but I hate that "bulk" swan dive:p
I like it, it's different then what we've ever had before, I've had no problems. :tmb:
The old one. It's one we've come to know and love.
I have mixed feelings for Underworld's swan dive!!
I prefered the one from Annivversary
and
Legend..!:(:(
S*x O o x
I like TRA and TRL swan dive also a lot better
I don't care either way. It is just a move? :rolleyes:
i found it very weird when i first executed it, and i still can't get used to it now.
It's certainly fast, but it's not bad. My only real problem with it is the glitch on the stairs. Do not swan dive where you land on stairs. I have a feeling this will be fixed for release though.
da tomb raider!
11-11-08, 14:20
No, I don't.
_Awestruck_
11-11-08, 14:25
Can someone make a video?? I've yet to see what its like
Doesn't look graceful. I daresay TRII's swan dive is better.
Legend of Lara
11-11-08, 15:02
I don't care either way. :p
I detest it, it has completely lost all its grace and charm. :mad: On a more positive note though, Lara seems to have gained a few new moves, some of which are as graceful - if not more - as the old swan dive: the cartwheel she does if you keep pressing roll, or the lovely little flip over low obstacles, and of course, the karate chop, which, IMO, is adorable. :D
... but no swans do not drop like rocks.
:D
It's too fast. It doesn't look natural.
Just... slow it down a bit, and many people will be happier :p
illuminati30
11-11-08, 15:59
Not played the game. or seen it, so i can't comment.
This completely ruins the game for me! CD SUCKZZZZ!!!!111one
:rolleyes:
Meh, a dive is a dive... does it really matter how she does it or looks while she does it? Its not really all that important imo. :p
FinalRequiem
11-11-08, 16:41
I voted Dont Care Either Way.
I havnt seen the new Swan Dive, actually, but tbh I wouldnt care because it doesnt affect gameplay or storyline. Its jus summin flashy to look at :D
EDIT
Jus watched it. It looks awful. But I stand by my decision :P
I like it, but I think it's too fast. But to say it has been motion captured, I guess it's realistic..
Feather Duster
11-11-08, 16:52
Too fast and snappy ;)
I don't like it, it's too fast. It should be an elegant, graceful move. Same applies to the handstand. ;)
Dont care as long as there is a swandive/swallowdive :p
can anyone post a comparrison between all diferent swan dives in real time? TR1 TR3 TR5 TRAOD TRL and TRU
KurtisLonely
11-11-08, 18:07
yay
I don't like it. It's too stiff, fast, and robotic. The Classic and AoD swan dives remain the best. :D
Yunaīs Wish
11-11-08, 18:18
Itīs WAY too fast. I was really looking forward to perform one and, when I finally got to play the demo, it was the only thing I didnīt like. Itīs impossible to appreciate (it was already hard to appreciate in TRL and TRA...here itīs simply IMPOSSIBLE).
I don't care. I don't understand how anybody could lol...
Candee Sparks
11-11-08, 18:51
Sometimes motion capture isn't the best move, Lara looks sloppier than when she did AOD. All they really should have done was tweaked the Anniversary engine to a more realistic level. :rolleyes:
Sometimes motion capture isn't the best move, Lara looks sloppier than when she did AOD. All they really should have done was tweaked the Anniversary engine to a more realistic level. :rolleyes:
I have a feeling the swan dive was done by hand, not mo-cap.
Crystal girl
11-11-08, 19:11
Sincerly i don't really care. I like either the new one or the old one.
No_more_bullets
11-11-08, 19:37
I can't understand why they feel the need to make it so fast and jolting. I loved how she used to bend her head upwards, arms outstretched, THEN ducked into the dive.
They should have a quick one and an elaborate one. The dive used to be my fave move :(
jeffrey van oort
11-11-08, 19:39
If I would do that swan dive, I would break my neck and die. :) LOL so I don't really care;)
At least in the demo, TRU Lara in general is far too fast in most of her moves. The handstand is the only one which seems to be slowed down a little.
Otherwise, you blink your eyes for split second, and you miss everything. You snooze, you lose, it seems.
There is absolutely no style, grace, poise, or elegance in Lara's TRU swan dive. She drops like a sack of potatoes, even though she looks like she doesn't weigh that much.
Poor Lara - I think she needs to go back to finishing school and learn about comportment and deportment. As Angelina says "Yes. A lady should be modest."
Kitty_pi314
11-11-08, 19:43
I don't care either way as long as I can still do it I'm good. :D
But TR 2's swan dive was fun because when you hit the roll button she flips in mid dive. My best record was 2 1/2 flips before she hit the ground.:p
Not too fond of the new swan dive.
It goes together with many of the other tru animations which all generarily seems to be speeded up. It could be intentional of the gamedevs to increase the responce and that they maybe had to make a compromize.
It's a small thing but the game looks good in all otherways so it doesn't bother me too much. :D
george_croft
11-11-08, 20:29
It makes the legend / TRA dives look better, george. :(
LOL, really? :eek:
*votes*
TombRaiderCool
11-11-08, 20:29
l prefer any of the older animations for the swan dive. I felt the Underworld animations were too fast, sharp and didnt look as graceful as it did in the previous games. :)
EmeraldFields
11-11-08, 20:31
It's too quick. I enjoyed the one from Legend the best.:)
This one was supposed to be realistic, but it just turned out messy, and extremely fast.
I believe they could do better.
No, because :
-It's a bit too fast
-We call roll while jumping :/
fanoflaracroft
11-11-08, 20:46
I don't care since i don't use swan dive.
thank god you made a thread bout this :) i was just thinking the same.
so i voted NO!!!!!!!!!!it looks so damn not realistic.how high you have to jump for your body to ve perfectly vertical in mid air,with you hands streched and upside down?!
sorry but deffinatly NO :mad:
For anyone who hasn't seen the swan dive:
IY5Mc3-i_vw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IY5Mc3-i_vw
Notice there's a speed difference at the end of a swan dive depending on whether you're in water or not :).
illuminati30
11-11-08, 23:59
It looks fine really.
Ward Dragon
12-11-08, 00:34
Like most of the animations, I think it would look better if it was slowed down a bit :)
Tombraiderx08
12-11-08, 00:40
For anyone who hasn't seen the swan dive:
IY5Mc3-i_vw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IY5Mc3-i_vw
Notice there's a speed difference at the end of a swan dive depending on whether you're in water or not :).lol the non moving swan dive sounds kind of pointless if you ask me but i love it XD
n00b raider
12-11-08, 00:47
For anyone who hasn't seen the swan dive:
IY5Mc3-i_vw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IY5Mc3-i_vw
Notice there's a speed difference at the end of a swan dive depending on whether you're in water or not :).
I officially hate that sorry excuse of a swandive. :hea: :mad:
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The1andOnlyTR
12-11-08, 00:54
The swan dive doesn't really bother me that much.
I voted "No" because it looks kinda weird.
The game is extremely beautiful despite the swan dive.
I'm really looking forward to it.
No, it's too fast. Loved it in TRL & TRA.
Fallen.Angel
12-11-08, 01:03
Personally I love it more than the last swan dive.
I think it's pretty good. Sure, it might be a little to fast, but over all, it seems to be more fluid. :tmb:
wow, it looks so bad. i didn't think it could get any worse.
it's so fast and choppy, it almost looks like a glitch. why can't CD just slow down her moves a bit? they all may be motion captured, but when they're that fast it's not realistic at all.
silver_wolf
12-11-08, 02:10
Considering how that video is of her swan diving on level ground, of course it's going to look odd. I don't really care, i think it looks fine.
Don't really like it. It's too fast. AOD's animations still remain on top.
Yep;)
I liked the old one better. The new one's too fast and she dives straight down instantly instead of diving out and curving down gracefully.
how can anyone like it ....
I honestly can't see how some people can say that they don't see any difference.
Blame Heidy Moneymaker (or whatever she's called) for her ungracefull swan dive. Not crystal :D
And yeah, it's bad
I doubt that Heidi Moneymaker did the swan dive,so there's no need to be rude.
oocladableeblah
12-11-08, 14:23
Nay she dives and is fully upside down then she kind of keeps moving above the water and then goes in the water. It looks very strange.
I doubt that Heidi Moneymaker did the swan dive,so there's no need to be rude.
Why wouldn't they motioncapture the swan dive?
x2crazyidiot
12-11-08, 15:46
I doubt that Heidi Moneymaker did the swan dive,so there's no need to be rude.
actually the odds are that it was Heidi, as she was the one that "was the better of the three motion capture models at gymnastics"
and seen as though a swan dive doesn't fall under body language or gun poses, I think Heidi did it
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