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illuminati30
12-11-08, 18:02
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sandygrimm
12-11-08, 18:04
:jmp::jmp::jmp: OMG!! I WANNA SEE IT...when is it out?

Mad Tony
12-11-08, 18:06
I've been waiting for this film for years! :jmp:

:jmp::jmp::jmp: OMG!! I WANNA SEE IT...when is it out?May 2009. Says so at the end of the video.

Crisl
12-11-08, 18:08
I havenīt read the book, so I know absolutely nothing about it :o But I liked the DaVinci code (book).
And am I dreaming, or was that music in the beginning from Batman? :) I swear I hear it almost everywhere now... :p

remote91
12-11-08, 18:09
I've read half of the first book, but I'll probably not be watching this one.

Survival
12-11-08, 18:11
And am I dreaming, or was that music in the beginning from Batman? :) I swear I hear it almost everywhere now... :p

Nope itīs music from The DaVinci Code ;).

Anyway Angels and Demons is the only Brown book that deserves to be on the big screen so I am kinda hyped to see this. And that is saying something because I am never hyped to see a movie that isnīt horror or X Files :p.

M.A.
12-11-08, 18:11
At last! Tom Hanks sports a better hair. The one in Da Vinci is an atrocity. I really hope this one is better than Da Vinci. I love the books! :D

Survival
12-11-08, 18:12
At last! Tom Hanks sports a better hair. The one in Da Vinci is an atrocity. I really hope this one is better than Da Vinci. I love the books! :D

So Lame The Hair of Tom :D

M.A.
12-11-08, 18:17
So Lame The Hair of Tom :D

If that's an anagram, I'm not even gonna try to crack it. :D Who knoows what hair product it might spell out.. :D

Nope itīs music from The DaVinci Code ;).

Anyway Angels and Demons is the only Brown book that deserves to be on the big screen so I am kinda hyped to see this. And that is saying something because I am never hyped to see a movie that isnīt horror or X Files :p.

I think Deception Point is the best one to be materialized onto the big screen. Great storyline, global locations, good action sequences (just imagine how they gonna film the fall of the ice shelf :D), and good plot twist for first time readers.

Survival
12-11-08, 18:23
If that's an anagram, I'm not even gonna try to crack it. :D Who knoows what hair product it might spell out.. :D



I think Deception Point is the best one to be materialized onto the big screen. Great storyline, global locations, good action sequences (just imagine how they gonna film the fall of the ice shelf :D), and good plot twist for first time readers.

Oh Iīve never read Deception Point :p. You see I donīt read too many authors (Stephen King and H.P.Loveraft and Clive Baker) so it was a little miracle that I finished most of Browns books :).

Mad Tony
12-11-08, 18:26
To be honest, all four Dan Brown novels would make excellent films.

Crisl
12-11-08, 18:27
Nope itīs music from The DaVinci Code ;).



Yes! I reckognize it now...thank you :D

Survival
12-11-08, 18:31
Yes! I reckognize it now...thank you :D

And it was also major inspiration for new Tomb Raider Underworld theme :p

Crisl
12-11-08, 18:35
And it was also major inspiration for new Tomb Raider Underworld theme :p

Haha, that is actually very funny...īcause Iīve always thought, that the Legend music was quite similar to Batmanīs :whi: I said I heard it everywhere :vlol:
But I donīt know the Underworldīs theme very much, so Iīll have to listen to it :)

Cochrane
12-11-08, 18:35
To be honest, all four Dan Brown novels would make excellent films.

Actually, I think Deception Point is decent, but not all that original, and Digital Fortress is just horrible since I know a little about cryptography, and he managed to get absolutely every single bit wrong, even though it looks as if he did extensive research to someone who has no idea about the field. Which is, of course, a hallmark of his writing, or at least so say people who know way more about meteors, origin of life and church than I do. :D

Fun fact: All his titles got strange translations in german, with Angels and Demons being translated to "Illuminati", The Da Vinci Code becoming "Sakrileg" (i.e. Sacrilege) and Deception Point being "Meteor". Now, Digital Fortress was not translated into german until after the success of Da Vinci Code, and when it was, it got the title "Diabolus" (which became the new name for the code) and the cover art consisting of the ring with it's cryptical message and some blood on it. Am I the only one thinking that the german publishers are trying to deceive people into thinking it would be another church book? :D

I still think Angels and Demons was his best book, though, and for this reason I'm very glad that they are making it into a movie. The action is clearly focused, Rome is a great setting and the characters and the general story line are the most interesting of them all to me. I can't wait to see this movie!

M.A.
12-11-08, 18:46
To be honest, all four Dan Brown novels would make excellent films.

The thing is, all four books have this kinda like a template. I read his books in these orders: Da Vinci Code, Digital Fortress, Deception Point and Angel & Demons. By the time I reached halfway thru Angel & Demons, I kinda guess who the bad guy is.. :)

I choose Deception Point to be a better will-be film adaption because it would be a great action movie and action movies sell well.. :D

The one thing that really irks me in Da Vinci movie is that how the really downplays Sophie character by making Langdon solves almost all the puzzles. In the book Sophie solves the painting puzzle and she translate the text on the cryptex box. But in the movie she just pines over Langdon while he solves everything. :mad:

Rivendell
12-11-08, 20:09
:jmp:

Can't wait! Been waiting for this for ages, I'm looking forward to it more than DaVC!

:yah:

Rileigh
12-11-08, 20:21
Oh goody! I loved the book!! :jmp:

fanoflaracroft
12-11-08, 20:28
Hmmm, i think i'm going to watch it. Looks cool!

ajrich17901
12-11-08, 20:44
Loved the first movie made so ill definetly go see this =3

xx_Hunt_xx
20-11-08, 23:37
Yayyyy!!
Ive waited so long to see a trailor of this movie.
I LOVED the book!
So much better then the over hyped Di Vinci Code (Off topic i met Tom Hanks while he was filming that film)
Anyways
Im so excited to now see this film. The book is truely amazing and if you havent read it please do its so worth it.

Candee Sparks
20-11-08, 23:38
I smell Oscars.

Legend Killer
21-11-08, 11:31
Loved the book! I've added this to my Netflix queue. :tmb:

Angelx14
21-11-08, 13:16
Is this based on the book? =D I haven't read it, but people say it's great.

Alectrona
21-11-08, 13:23
I just finished the book and I can't wait to see the film. The book was just amazing, kept me reading for hours :jmp:

xaider
19-07-09, 21:01
Nice movie..complicated plot though...

silver_wolf
19-07-09, 21:01
It's explained better in the book, but I thought the movie did a good job.

Rachel Croft
19-07-09, 21:58
The book is SOOOO bloody good! I would reccommend it to anyone, but only if your interested in a high level of sophistication. :p

xaider
19-07-09, 22:05
The book is SOOOO bloody good! I would reccommend it to anyone, but only if your interested in a high level of sophistication. :p

i'll say...i had to watch the movie twice to understand..and even that...not fully...

Cochrane
19-07-09, 22:14
The book is SOOOO bloody good! I would reccommend it to anyone, but only if your interested in a high level of sophistication. :p

Ah, come on, considering that it pretends to deal with century old secrets, it's actually pretty light reading.

Encore
19-07-09, 22:26
The book is SOOOO bloody good! I would reccommend it to anyone, but only if your interested in a high level of sophistication. :p

Is that sarcasm?

Ward Dragon
19-07-09, 22:33
I still think Angels and Demons was his best book, though, and for this reason I'm very glad that they are making it into a movie. The action is clearly focused, Rome is a great setting and the characters and the general story line are the most interesting of them all to me. I can't wait to see this movie!

What is your opinion of Vittoria? It really irritated me how Dan Brown kept going on and on about how smart she was, yet she claimed that turning a ton of energy into a little bit of mass somehow proved the existence of God :confused: Granted I know very little of quantum mechanics, but didn't we already know that was possible (the whole E = mc^2 thing)? :p

just croft
19-07-09, 22:40
That really didn't bother me, reading. I loved the film, for everyone who didn't like The Davinci code, you will enjoy this, between the books the difference was already major (but I also read Angels and Demons in English and the other in Portuguese); Between the movies is just perfect.

Most of the changes between book-film were good ones but there was one that really bothered me. I read it so long ago but wasn't Victoria the daughter of the other scientist who dies? :confused:

Smog
19-07-09, 22:45
I've just finished read Digital Fortress and it was bloody awful. Shallow, underdeveloped characters, a silly chase plot and a whole load of dodgy cryptology jargon; it got to the point where I was willing myself to finish it simply because I had gotten too far in to give up. The Da Vinci Code was fun, but this has thoroughly put me off Dan Brown and his overrated nonsense (and bland writing style, I should add). :pi:

Ward Dragon
19-07-09, 22:47
:confused:


^ Adopted I believe :)

xaider
19-07-09, 22:51
And here i was thinking that i was the only one put off by Dan brown's writings...

just croft
19-07-09, 22:51
I've just finished read Digital Fortress and it was bloody awful. Shallow, underdeveloped characters, a silly chase plot and a whole load of dodgy cryptology jargon; it got to the point where I was willing myself to finish it simply because I had gotten too far in to give up. The Da Vinci Code was fun, but this has thoroughly put me off Dan Brown and his overrated nonsense (and bland writing style, I should add). :pi:

I've read all the Dan Brown novels and I can say that the cheesy plot lines are there in all of them, no more or less. But even so I think the Digital Fortress was better than the DaVinci code in terms of oringinality

^ Adopted I believe :)

Uhm... Thanks :tmb:

LaraLuvrrr
20-07-09, 03:35
I didnt care for this movie that much...

Cochrane
20-07-09, 05:18
What is your opinion of Vittoria? It really irritated me how Dan Brown kept going on and on about how smart she was, yet she claimed that turning a ton of energy into a little bit of mass somehow proved the existence of God :confused: Granted I know very little of quantum mechanics, but didn't we already know that was possible (the whole E = mc^2 thing)? :p
Hey, I never said the characters made any sense. :D As a general rule, one should ignore all the things that Dan Brown acts as if he had done intense research on, such as here both history of the church and quantum physics.

I've just finished read Digital Fortress and it was bloody awful. Shallow, underdeveloped characters, a silly chase plot and a whole load of dodgy cryptology jargon; it got to the point where I was willing myself to finish it simply because I had gotten too far in to give up. The Da Vinci Code was fun, but this has thoroughly put me off Dan Brown and his overrated nonsense (and bland writing style, I should add). :pi:
I'm still wondering whether it's his worst researched, or whether all of them are that bad and I just don't notice because I don't know as much about his other topics as I do about cryptography. But it is pretty clear that he seems to lack understanding of even the most basic cryptography concepts. Rotating plaintexts, for example...

Ward Dragon
20-07-09, 05:27
Hey, I never said the characters made any sense. :D As a general rule, one should ignore all the things that Dan Brown acts as if he had done intense research on, such as here both history of the church and quantum physics.

Ah, thanks for reaffirming my sanity (or what passes for it anyway) :p I've read Angels and Demons and I've read The DaVinci Code and both books really irritated me with the melodramatic over-the-top style of writing. Dan Brown just can't keep a secret, he always gives everything away at least 50 pages in advance :p Plus he spends so much time describing things instead of letting me draw my own opinions based upon what actually happens.

Jedd Fletcher
20-07-09, 06:47
I believe I've posted this before, but anyway...

Movie Review 24/5/09

ANGELS & DEMONS
2009

Starring: Tom Hanks, Ewan McGregor, Ayelet Zurer
Directed by: Ron Howard
Released by: Columbia Pictures/Sony Pictures

Harvard professor and symbology super-sleuth Robert Langdon is back in this second adaptation of a Dan Brown novel. Besides the main character (played again by the unimitatable Tom Hanks), the Oscar-winning team of director Ron Howard and producer Brian Grazer have returned for the sequel. In the wake of 2006’s critically-derided The Da Vinci Code, how does its screen sequel fare?

This time around, Howard and big-name screenwriters Akiva Goldsman and David Koepp have made more of an effort to trim off the unwieldy excess from Brown’s narrative, and went for the ticking-bomb-thriller approach as opposed to the conspiracy theory 101 class we were forced to sit through the first time around. The filmmakers have wisely optimized the thriller material with which they were presented, so there is more running between churches than talking heads.

The film begins with the death of the beloved Pope, and the cardinals of the world have gathered in Vatican City for the papal conclave, i.e. the election of a new Pope. However, in the midst of this, it appears that the Illuminati secret society, an old enemy of the Catholic Church, has resurfaced, kidnapping four of the favourites for the papacy and threatening retribution for the Church’s “crimes” against them some 400 years ago.

The “ticking bomb” in this context is a canister of antimatter, a volatile experimental substance harvested by particle physicists at CERN (The European Organisation for Nuclear Research) in Geneva, Switzerland. The canister has been stolen by the Illuminati, who are now using it to hold the church hostage.

And that’s where Robert Langdon comes in. He is roped in by Inspector Ernesto Olivetti (Pierfrancesco Favino) of the Gendarme Corps of Vatican City State (otherwise known as the Vatican Police) and decipher cryptic symbols left as clues by the Illuminati and assist the Swiss Guard and the afore-mentioned Vatican Police in rescuing the four cardinals and finding the antimatter before it consumes the Vatican. Meanwhile, Commandante Richter (Stellan Skarsgard) of the Swiss Guard is largely dismissive of Langdon and is deliberately hostile to him.

The Harvard Professor is given the blessing of the idealistic young priest Camerlengo Patrick MacKenna (McGregor), a favourite of the late Pope and his former right-hand man. The earnest Camerlengo seems the most desperate to end the madness. The beautiful CERN physicist Vittoria Vetra (Zurer) is also drawn into the fray, but even the combined expertise of both academics seems almost powerless to stop the looming Illuminati threat.

Now, if the above synopsis sounds far-fetcher, be warned that it is just the tip of this cinematic iceberg. Author Dan Brown is known for meddling fact and fiction and even passing off the former as the latter, achieving at-times laughable results. Plenty of plot points are downright ludicrious and there are enough contrivances to fill St Peter’s Square. The key prefix in this film is “psuedo” – the film is built on psuedo-science, psuedo-history, pretty much psuedo-everything. Stock characters and a fish market of red herrings also populate the picture. Therefore, suspension of disbelief is key. Thankfully though, the movie is paced well-enough, so much so that one eventually buys into the hodgepodge and goes along for the ride.

We are treated to a wonderful tour of The Vatican City that is part The Amazing Race (but with dead bodies and shootouts instead of roadblocks and detours), part dramatic angel’s-eye-views of the world’s smallest country. The fortress-church Castel Sant’ Angelo, the famous Sistine Chapel, Santa Marai Del Popolo with its imposing obelisk and the former Roman temple of “all gods” the Pantheon all figure in this whirlwind romp. While some of Angels & Demons was shot on location, the filmmakers were not granted access to several sites within the Vatican Walls, as such set reconstructions and some digital magic was employed. The results are actually fairly impressive, one might even be fooled into thinking the computer-generated replicas are the real thing.

This leads on to the cinematography of the film by Director of Photography Salvatore Totino. Totino excels in sweeping vistas of cavernous cathedrals, and many scenes are gorgeously lit, presenting the locales at their most mysterious and beautiful. The cinematography is ultimately one of the main strong points of the film. There is an enjoyable little sequence in which the main characters enter an abandoned church and Totino milks the location for all its horror-movie-style potential, even including a smart visual gag involving a pair of contractor’s boots.

A quick mention must be made of the lush yet kinetic score from famed film composer Hans Zimmer, whose past credits include Batman Begins, the Pirates of the Caribbean films and even The Lion King (which gave him one of his seven Oscar wins). The violin solo by virtuoso Joshua Bell is also something of a masterpiece and even adds some depth to the film.

Ron Howard and company are eminent forces in Hollywood today and exert that power by casting relatively big names. While this film boasts slightly less star power than its predecessor (The Da Vinci Code had actors such as Jean Reno and Ian McKellen among its cast), everyone puts in fairly credible performances here. Tom Hanks lends much credibility to the Langdon role, and gets plenty more to do in this than in the last film, from dodging bullets to saving a drowning man and from taking a dip in speedos to feverishly thumbing through ancient documents. Some of the time though, Hanks clearly has his tongue in his cheek, and especially excels in the rare humourous moments that do ease the cinematic tension. As the female lead, Israeli actress Zurer does barely as good a job as Hanks, relegated to tagging along in the mad dashes from church to church. However, she isn’t a bad actress per se and I look forward to seeing her in more Hollywood projects.

After appearing in smaller films and adventuring around the world for the last several years, it is good to see Ewan “Obi-Wan” McGregor turning in his Jedi robes from the Star Wars prequel trilogy for the Camerlengo’s cossack and back in a blockbuster, and truth be told he does a mighty fine job. However, it is not exactly believable that the youngish McGregor plays a fairly high-ranking priest, especially when other characters have to call him “Father”, and McGregor also visibly stumbles through an unwieldly soliloquy. The character, originally Italian in the book, is now Irish to accommodate the Scottish actor, and as such the Camerlengo’s backstory seems largely implausible. Ultimately though, the Camerlengo is one of the most complex characters in the film, and McGregor is largely able to parse the finer nuances in his portrayal. The incredible Stellan Skarsgard (whom we’ve seen in such films as Good Will Hunting, The Hunt For the Red October and the Pirates of the Caribbean films) seems under-utilized as the *****ly Commandante, despite this the actor still fleshes out the slight bitterness his character bears towards Langdon with much relish.

The film’s small departures from the book seem to be a two-edged sword; on one hand the story has been streamlined and does work better for the screen, but on the other, interesting characters and other elements seem to have been sacrificed. For example, instead of the generic, bespectacled assassin-for-hire played by Nikolaj Lie Kaas, the book’s politically-incorrect but more interesting version was a brutish, imposing Middle-Eastern rapist. Also, the book came before The Da Vinci Code, but the timeline has been altered such that this functions as a sequel, and the romantic subplot has been jettisoned in favour of a strictly professional relationship between Langdon and Vetra. However, producer Brian Grazer did state that the filmmaking team was too "reverential" when adapting The Da Vinci Code, which resulted in it being "a little long and stagey". Therefore, the wiggle room this time around does more help than harm in the long run.

The movie is enjoyable in spite of (or perhaps because of) its sheer absurdity, offering up legitimate thrills and even a couple of outstanding action sequences. Far from being offensive or overly-controversial, Angels & Demons ends up being more cotton candy fluff than a “lofty quest”. But have angels guided Howard and Co. in their mission nonetheless? Perhaps, though this film does have its fair share of demons to contend with as well.

RATING: 3.5/5 STARS

Jedd Jong

Encore
20-07-09, 14:38
I've just finished read Digital Fortress and it was bloody awful. Shallow, underdeveloped characters, a silly chase plot and a whole load of dodgy cryptology jargon; it got to the point where I was willing myself to finish it simply because I had gotten too far in to give up. The Da Vinci Code was fun, but this has thoroughly put me off Dan Brown and his overrated nonsense (and bland writing style, I should add). :pi:

Oh God, I completely agree. That book is SO bad. I didn't even finish it, and it's very rare that I leave a book like that... I do like the Da Vinci Code and Angels & Demons but Digital Fortress is so boring, repetitive and full of cliches that it was just unbearable. Plus I hate the portrait he makes of Spain. :mad:

just croft
20-07-09, 14:43
Oh God, I completely agree. That book is SO bad. I didn't even finish it, and it's very rare that I leave a book like that... I do like the Da Vinci Code and Angels & Demons but Digital Fortress is so boring, repetitive and full of cliches that it was just unbearable. Plus I hate the portrait he makes of Spain. :mad:

You do know... wait I don't think you do becuase you didn't finish... that he make even a worse one of the Portuguese people? If I can remember correctly the guy chasing him in Spain is Portuguese and the makes his back story look so bad... :mad:

Encore
20-07-09, 14:46
Wow, then it's even worst than I thought. :rolleyes:

kristi
20-07-09, 14:51
I just saw it,and it's an AMAZING movie!!!Just loved the scenes of antimatter explosion,the scene where Vittoria finds Silvano dead(wasn't Leonardo Vetra?) and when Camerlengos unveils dead Pope's face.WOW!
Just some details that weren't as in the book like Maximillian Kohler,the first antimatter test explosion scene,and some name & fact incompatibilities.

SilviaIsMyHero
20-07-09, 18:15
It was quite good, I saw it some time ago. Though it's not as good as ''The Da Vinci Code''.
BTW (*spoiler I guess*) the anti-matter explosion scene was ******* AMAZING!!!