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Sales of Eidos' Tomb Raider: Underworld are strongest on the PlayStation 3, with 51 per cent of all units sold in its first week of release on Sony's home console.
The Xbox 360 accounted for 34 per cent of sales, with the remaining sales made up of Wii, PC and DS SKUs.
Earlier this year, Eidos announced that only the Xbox 360 version of the game will benefit from two exclusive digital episodes, amounting to around six extra hours of play.
Tomb Raider: Underworld only beat the first week performance of last year's Tomb Raider: Anniversary by 6,700 units.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/new-tomb-raider-sales-lead-on-playstation-3
Oh dear. It seems PLAYSTATION fans have still managed to remain loyal despite the way they've been treated. Ah well, at least Microsoft can't ask for the money back, right Eidos ;). It's all been spent on luxury sedans and home makeovers probably.
P.S. Mods, if this has already been discussed, be a love and flush this.
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ccroft2003
25-11-08, 11:28
I'm so pleased! Up yours €ido$! hehe. Big it up PS3 players! Lets hope we also get some goodies in the near future soon ;)
navinloveslara
25-11-08, 11:28
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=140114
:wve:
Tomb of Legends
25-11-08, 11:37
Sit on THAT EIDOS.
Suck it, sorry but thats for screwing over THE BIGGEST PLATFORM FOR TOMB RAIDER.
(This post is no way Fan Boyish, only releasing anger against a bunch of foo's who pick favourites. Now hand the damn DLC over to PC and PS3.)
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=140114
:wve:Oopsy. :cln:
Oh the sweet irony if the sales continue like that.:D I wouldn't be surprised if TRU sales were also higher on PC as TR has a strong history with that platform as well. Of course MS & Eidos may have been only trying to attract new 360 TR fans rather then getting high DLC sales. Either way if this does continue it should be a good indicator to Eidsos where TR fanbase is.:)
Oh for God's sake. Why is everyone going "Hah, pwnt ****ers, Eidos!"
It's not like they really mean to screw over PS players. Eidos wants money, they wouldn't wanna lose anything, only win, selfish *******s. :p It can only be a good thing getting more sales, anyway. :p :whi:
Everyone is being so sensitive. :rolleyes:
I probably shouldn't talk, being a proud 360 owner, so umm, yeah.
*Runs outta thread before hordes of PS fanboys come running after me with pitchforks and stuff*
Well we all know that Eidos was only interested in money, naturally. I just hope it makes them think more next time around.:)
Sorry, I didn't realise there was already a thread discussing this.;)
ADDED
Oh the other thread is about chart position, so this is a different subject matter really.:D
first of all it is not a weeks sales. more like a weekend like the box office. and second maybe eidos should think again about giving everything to xbox...
I wonder how the PC sales are doing?
Microsoft lost this battle!:jmp:
I wonder how the PC sales are doing?
Microsoft lost this battle!:jmp:
It's still early days so it could change yet but if indeed these statistics do continue it will show that the TR fanbase is still strong with PS.:)
Yeh its nice to see PS3 owners being such gracious winners in the format war on TRU.. ;)
navinloveslara
25-11-08, 12:17
Yeh its nice to see PS3 owners being such gracious winners in the format war on TRU.. ;)
I have a feeling those who owned both PS3s and X360s decided to go for the PS3 version to speak out against the injustice:p.
No hard feelings, though.
Now can you see the true purpose of the DLC? Not yet. But I predict around the time the first DLC gonna come out, the 360 copies will be up the charts...
Tomb Raider Jay
25-11-08, 12:19
^^^
Btw just out of curiosity how many platforms will the next TR game be on Jay? :whi:
I bought it for 360 cause folk said it was better... they lied >>> POP-IN and GLITCHES galore!! :D
more fool me
Yeh its nice to see PS3 owners being such gracious winners in the format war on TRU.. ;)
Well it would be a good indicator considering there has been many posts where people have been saying how TR isn't strong with the PS anymore despite the history together because the 360 is more popular. TR's PS relationship is over type statements have been aplenty. It would also squash fears that TR would be an exclusive to the 360 becuause after recent events one would be forgiving for thinking such a thing.;)
But like I said, it's still early so that could all change yet, it will be interesting to see.:D
Well it would be a good indicator considering there has been many posts where people have been saying how TR isn't strong with the PS anymore despite the history together because the 360 is more popular. TR's PS relationship is over type statements have been aplenty. It would also squash fears that TR would be an exclusive to the 360 becuause after recent events one would be forgiving for thinking such a thing.;)
But like I said, it's still early so that could all change yet, it will be interesting to see.:D
i would truly doubt the game would ever go format exclusive ever again.
navinloveslara
25-11-08, 12:37
i would truly doubt the game would ever go format exclusive ever again.
:tmb:.
:eek:
TR is still selling well after all ;)
Maybe this is a sign that the ps3 players are going out in force to support the game. Or it could be that the platform itself isn't being overrun with a load of other titles in the same way that the 360 has? The xbox has frequently shown a tendency towards war/fps games, and bearing in mind the recent slew of titles released, it's likely, imo, that TR:U is simply one of a number of releases that people would buy if money were no object. But of course in the current financial climate, adding in the fact that Christmas is now only a month away, people are simply having to make a more cautious decision about what to spend their cash on.
I had both the ps1 and ps2, and played every TR upto TRA on this format. When the decision to go next gen came along, a primary factor was the cost of the console itself, which is why I went for a 360 rather than a ps3.
I don't have the TR:U yet, and I doubt I will get it any time before xmas, I simply have too many other financial commitments to deal with.
Would I LIKE it sooner? Definitely. Would I like a ps3, yep. Are these things likely, or even feasible? No, not in the forseeable future. Mortgage, Xmas and all the other niggly little things that need paying have to take priority.
Maybe this is a sign that the ps3 players are going out in force to support the game. Or it could be that the platform itself isn't being overrun with a load of other titles in the same way that the 360 has? The xbox has frequently shown a tendency towards war/fps games, and bearing in mind the recent slew of titles released, it's likely, imo, that TR:U is simply one of a number of releases that people would buy if money were no object. But of course in the current financial climate, adding in the fact that Christmas is now only a month away, people are simply having to make a more cautious decision about what to spend their cash on.
In that sense, PS3 would have no games atm that are likeable for people compared to Tomb Raider. But that should not be the case with Sony's biggest 2008 title Little Big Planet.
No I think this really proves that TR still remains steady as a game mostly targeted for Playstation owners.
Hopefully, EIDOS and Crystal Dynamics will react on that result.
I hate to admit it but it seems that the DLC being exclusive to 360 was a good move by Eidos.
It shows that the PS3 version will sell no matter what so it only makes sense for Eidos to support the weakest (in sales) of the current gen versions (with a good sum of money in exchange of course.)
Actually it encourages them to make more MS exclusive deals in the future (IF MS is still interested that is.)
HAHAHAHA.
Take that Eidos. Next time you want to make exclusives, consider the right console ;)
dream raider
25-11-08, 13:19
Strange that this is the case being that the PS3 was the most bug-filled, un-polished and not up to standard version in contrast to the other versions. Oh and lets not forget no demo or DLC.
From everything I'm reading there are the same bugs in all versions, and the PS3 version is just fine... I actually saw a review comparing the graphics of both of them, which concluded that the PS3 version looked better (less aliasing/jaggies).
http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/facepalm.gif
I swear I don't have words to say how incredibly amusing this is.:vlol:
Strange that this is the case being that the PS3 was the most bug-filled, un-polished and not up to standard version in contrast to the other versions. Oh and lets not forget no demo or DLC.
Yes,but think about it.
TR1,2,3,4,5,6,L&A sold extremely well on PS1&2.
TRL didn't sell that much on Xbox.
TRL&TRA sold ok on 360,especially Legend,since it had good graphics and it was great for the casual players.
Oh My Goodness this is such a nice occasion to make some new pics.:cln:
HAHAHAHA.
Take that Eidos. Next time you want to make exclusives, consider the right console ;)
erm u do realise we do still make money from the sales of ps3 versions dont u?
Yeh take that.. erm. to our bank.. :)
erm u do realise we make money from the sales of ps3 versions dont u?
Yeh take that.. erm. to our banks.. :)
Yes,and you could make more money if the DLC would be on PS3 and PC too.;)
Yes,and you could make more money if the DLC would be on PS3 and PC too.;)
Money...
DLC wouldn't work on PC.
And I bet Jay hasn't got any influence regarding contracts whatsoever. :p
I Need A Map
25-11-08, 14:03
Even though I am not a sony fan boy and I am buying a new xbox 360 and TRU tomorow I just have to say Go ps3 Go!:jmp:
Take that Eidos!:tea:
Yes,and you could make more money if the DLC would be on PS3 and PC too.;)
thats not my decision to make, i think people can probably guess what i'd have done if i had right to make decisions here..
PC would have to be free, since any online payment system would be gotten around by people unwilling to pay and then distributed by them.
george_croft
25-11-08, 14:07
Oh, the irony.:D
GO PEE-ESS-THREE !!!1!!!11!!!!oneoneone!!!
Oh, the irony.:D
GO PEE-ESS-THREE !!!1!!!11!!!!oneoneone!!!
ps3 111111? am confused :)
*reading the first post*............................................. ..................................So what???
george_croft
25-11-08, 14:11
ps3 111111? am confused :)
Imitating fanboys, Jay. :p
dream raider
25-11-08, 14:11
erm u do realise we do still make money from the sales of ps3 versions dont u?
Yeh take that.. erm. to our bank.. :)
Seems like a fail to me as it would be more beneficial for you to make the DLC exclusive for the PS3 as that is where the main fan base seems to reside. Not like you don't deserve it, making such a silly decision from the beginning... But it appears to be mainly Microsoft's loss.
Seems like a fail to me as it would be more beneficial for you to make the DLC exclusive for the PS3 as that is where the main fan base seems to reside. Not like you don't deserve it, making such a silly decision from the beginning... But it appears to be mainly Microsoft's loss.
Kinda my point.. we've had MS's money to pay for development of the DLC etc.. its their money funding its release etc..
Yeh we could have made more if on more formats, but as sony dont fund this stuff wouldnt have been easy for us to pay for it all in advance..
Catch 22 for us..
interstellardave
25-11-08, 14:22
Kinda my point.. we've had MS's money to pay for development of the DLC etc.. its their money funding its release etc..
Yeh we could have made more if on more formats, but as sony dont fund this stuff wouldnt have been easy for us to pay for it all in advance..
Catch 22 for us..
Some people STILL don't understand this point... and some don't WANT to understand this point.
And it shouldn't matter to MS if more copies sell on the PS3--only if more copies sell on the 360 than otherwise would have--plus the money made directly from the sale of the DLC itself.
Godlikesweeper
25-11-08, 14:22
Kinda my point.. we've had MS's money to pay for development of the DLC etc.. its their money funding its release etc..
Yeh we could have made more if on more formats, but as sony dont fund this stuff wouldnt have been easy for us to pay for it all in advance..
Catch 22 for us..
So,in the end,it will be xbox exlusive?Or do you still have to say that?And later on,when the marketing contract expires,you will make us all happy?:D:o
If its thrue,what you are saying,then you had like,a month to make a 4 hours of gameplay and other stuff,then,I'm not even sure I want that content...:o
Because,I don't want to spoil theese nice felling I have whille playing underworld with some grade B levels that are made just because microsoft payed you to do it...
I Need A Map
25-11-08, 14:25
I find it funny because there was so many people talking about boycotting the ps3 just because of the xbox DLC and now the ps3 are ahead in sales.......
As Ralph Wiggum said in the simpsons "the ironing is delicious" :vlol::vlol::vlol:
So,in the end,it will be xbox exlusive?Or do you still have to say that?And later on,when the marketing contract expires,you will make us all happy?:D:o
If its thrue,what you are saying,than you had like,a month to make a 4 hours of gameplay and other stuff,then,I'm not even sure I want that content...:o
Again dont forget how BIG CD are.. they have hundreds of staff.. Designers/artists when finished working on full game would have moved straight onto the artwork/design for the puzzles/artwork etc for the DLC, programmers then moving over later etc..
Game developer are a lot more complex then people seem to think :)
Godlikesweeper
25-11-08, 14:33
Again dont forget how BIG CD are.. they have hundreds of staff.. Designers/artists when finished working on full game would have moved straight onto the artwork/design for the puzzles/artwork etc for the DLC, programmers then moving over later etc..
Game developer are a lot more complex then people seem to think :)
If CD were that big,there wouldn't be that many bugs in the game,right?And ,if they are THAT big,why Underworld has only 10 hours of gameplay,instead of 15 or 40/50 like someone said?:)
edit:And after reading your message one more time,I somehow get the feeling that the original game maybe is a little bit unfinished because of the DLc.So,you had the time to make and aditional 4 hours,manor, outfits,and didn't have the time to make the vanila game a couple of hours longer?Hm..something smells nasty here...but,theres nothing strange there...where is microsoft-there is a nasty smell too!
either way,I hope you realise how tolerant people have to be to forgive you what you did to them...:)
People will be playing *amazing* new levels on their xbox,and only thing the others can do is feel sad...:)
And when I think how some people say that they feel sorry for poor eido$...really,where is this world going?:(
erm u do realise we do still make money from the sales of ps3 versions dont u?
Yeh take that.. erm. to our bank.. :)
Yes. And just imagine how many ppl are still ****ed off with the 360 exclusive business. Imagine how much more money you could've made if DLC, demo, etc... was on all platforms ;)
^^^
I bought it for 360 cause folk said it was better... they lied >>> POP-IN and GLITCHES galore!! :D
Oh no, those were some of the very few things that weren't 360-exclusive!
Has anybody thought about the possibility that perhaps the sales were lower on the 360 because people had the chance to play the demo and didn't like it, whereas PS3 players had no chance to play before release?
IMO, strong sales can only be a good thing in the long run. Makes it that much less likely for Eidos to pull a 'TR9 is 360 exclusive' cat out of the bag. Also means that perhaps a little more time will be spent on making sure the PS3 version is up to scratch in comparison to the 360 version next time.
The OP figures are UK figures. It will be interesting to see what the WW figures are.
oocladableeblah
25-11-08, 14:58
lmfao :vlol: I love the irony.
interstellardave
25-11-08, 15:07
SOMEONE CHANGE THIS TOPIC HEADER!
As Samsdad pointed out these figures are only for the UK... so, no surprise, but they don't represent worldwide sales!
According to this MCV report (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/32458/PS3-takes-51-of-all-Tomb-Raider-Anniversary-sales), Chart-Track’s confirmed that 51 percent of all UK Tomb Raider: Underworld sales in Britain last week.
The title entered this week’s GFK-ChartTrack/ELSPA All Formats Top 40 at No.9, outselling the launch of last year’s original Tomb Raider remake (Tomb Raider: Anniversary) by 6,700 units.
Also of major note, the 360 has had several major exclusive releases just recently: Fable 2, GoW2, Banjoo-Kazooie, Left 4 Dead... surely people don't think these are not factors?
I hate to admit it but it seems that the DLC being exclusive to 360 was a good move by Eidos.
It shows that the PS3 version will sell no matter what so it only makes sense for Eidos to support the weakest (in sales) of the current gen versions (with a good sum of money in exchange of course.)
Actually it encourages them to make more MS exclusive deals in the future (IF MS is still interested that is.)
Totally agree :(
Everyone so far has gone "stuff you Eidos for selling out to MS", yet no one has gone, "Hey Sony, If MS can cough up the cash, then why didn't you?".
During all of the development time, Sony had just as much chance to strike a deal for DLC as Microsoft. That they couldn't be bothered/didn't feel it was necessary, speaks as much about Sony's attitude towards the ps3 and its users, as it does about Eidos in my book.
Everyone so far has gone "stuff you Eidos for selling out to MS", yet no one has gone, "Hey Sony, If MS can cough up the cash, then why didn't you?".
During all of the development time, Sony had just as much chance to strike a deal for DLC as Microsoft. That they couldn't be bothered/didn't feel it was necessary, speaks as much about Sony's attitude towards the ps3 and its users, as it does about Eidos in my book.
Sony dont do that, well thats what they've said.. How many games are 360 exclusive DLC, a LOT more then people seem to realise..
Godlikesweeper
25-11-08, 15:49
Everyone so far has gone "stuff you Eidos for selling out to MS", yet no one has gone, "Hey Sony, If MS can cough up the cash, then why didn't you?".
During all of the development time, Sony had just as much chance to strike a deal for DLC as Microsoft. That they couldn't be bothered/didn't feel it was necessary, speaks as much about Sony's attitude towards the ps3 and its users, as it does about Eidos in my book.
OMG!Like microsoft cares about their users,they just want MORE of them!I hate this kind of comments sooo much!And,who is going to pay for DLC to be released on PC??????HUH????We are microsoft users too,arent we?And does M$ cares about us?
OMG!Like microsoft cares about their users,they just want MORE of them!I hate this kind of comments sooo much!And,who is going to pay for DLC to be released on PC??????HUH????We are microsoft users too,arent we?And does M$ cares about us?
I do love how people are SO anti MS.. like its a crime to actually say something positive for them..
MS are like ANY company.. yes they make money, but so does everyone. Notice how no one seems to have noticed this small little company that now `trounces` MS in many areas, yet they dont get as much hatred thrown at them for the exact same practices.. can u guess who i am on about, the starbucks of the computer world!?
Godlikesweeper
25-11-08, 15:58
jaywalker,if M$ gave me that kind of money,that you and your friends got,I'm sure I would love them as much as you do.But that aint the case,so...:)
Everyone who say M$ did this because he cares about his users,is just...hm,how can I say it,and not get banned from the forums?:vlol:
just in case,I won't finnish my thaugh...:D
Legend of Lara
25-11-08, 16:04
:vlol:
I am DYING of laughter at the IRONY!!! :vlol::vlol:
bloodstormaoa
25-11-08, 16:06
Oh no, those were some of the very few things that weren't 360-exclusive!
Has anybody thought about the possibility that perhaps the sales were lower on the 360 because people had the chance to play the demo and didn't like it, whereas PS3 players had no chance to play before release?
IMO, strong sales can only be a good thing in the long run. Makes it that much less likely for Eidos to pull a 'TR9 is 360 exclusive' cat out of the bag. Also means that perhaps a little more time will be spent on making sure the PS3 version is up to scratch in comparison to the 360 version next time.
I'm of the strong opinion that, TR will always sell better on a console such as the PS3. Firstly, this is not a fanboi statement. It's just that the 360 market is saturated with FPS's and TPS's....the general customer base of the 360 lean towards these kind of games.
interstellardave
25-11-08, 16:12
jaywalker,if M$ gave me that kind of money,that you and your friends got,I'm sure I would love them as much as you do.But that aint the case,so...:)
Everyone who say M$ did this because he cares about his users,is just...hm,how can I say it,and not get banned from the forums?:vlol:
just in case,I won't finnish my thaugh...:D
And yet people always seem to act as if Sony cares about them by comparison! And, yes, regardless of motive, when MS makes deals like this it is good for their customers--something positive has to be said for that.
:vlol:
I am DYING of laughter at the IRONY!!! :vlol::vlol:
No irony at all... these are UK figures, not worldwide ones... it's to be expected in the UK, which seems to be a Playstation hotbed. It'll be interesting to see who TRU does worldwide.
Think I'll wait for the worldwide figures thanks...
Trigger_happy
25-11-08, 16:18
Gah, this just means that we'll get another crap game next time for the PS3, as Eidos sees that anyone will buy it, they just have to stick Lara on the front.
Lara's home
25-11-08, 17:39
Gah, this just means that we'll get another crap game next time for the PS3, as Eidos sees that anyone will buy it, they just have to stick Lara on the front.
:rolleyes:
I do love how people are SO anti MS.. like its a crime to actually say something positive for them..
MS are like ANY company.. yes they make money, but so does everyone. Notice how no one seems to have noticed this small little company that now `trounces` MS in many areas, yet they dont get as much hatred thrown at them for the exact same practices.. can u guess who i am on about, the starbucks of the computer world!?
People dont like companies that hold a monopoly. MS is such a company.
From a business point of view, it makes sense that companies will want to work with MS, but from a consumer point of view, buying MS products means youre restricted to it because otherwise youre ***ng pwned.
But I bet you knew that already, so I wonder why you ask...
Strange that this is the case being that the PS3 was the most bug-filled, un-polished and not up to standard version in contrast to the other versions. Oh and lets not forget no demo or DLC.
There were no bugs when i played it on the ps3 i dont know what your talking about.
lmao, I love how people are acting like this will teach them a lesson or something... This only shows them that they can treat PS fans however they want and they will still buy it in the end.
anniversarytr11
25-11-08, 18:00
just shows where the fanbase is, they wont make much profit from the exclusive DLC, in my opinion a very big mistake
interstellardave
25-11-08, 18:03
just shows where the fanbase is, they wont make much profit from the exclusive DLC, in my opinion a very big mistake
The UK fanbase was always obviously going to be mostly PS3... and in Europe too, perhaps... the US sales should even things out though.
chrismcalees
25-11-08, 18:04
There were no bugs when i played it on the ps3 i dont know what your talking about.
I got no bugs on the PS3 version either. People must look for them and because I don't, I don't find any.
Fallen.Angel
25-11-08, 18:06
I got no bugs on the PS3 version either. People must look for them and because I don't, I don't find any.
Same here, except for a couple minor ones.
Anyways, perhaps this could influence them to be equal next time. I'd love to get some extra content! Who knows. I'd like it, but obviously no matter what I'll still be loyal to Tomb Raider.
Gah, this just means that we'll get another crap game next time for the PS3, as Eidos sees that anyone will buy it, they just have to stick Lara on the front.
lmao, I love how people are acting like this will teach them a lesson or something... This only shows them that they can treat PS fans however they want and they will still buy it in the end.
So true...
jeremyANDROGYNY
25-11-08, 18:07
Only thing that happened to me was a Nagas on the wall refused to die. But he wasn't doing anything to harm me. ^_^
so... what's so surprising about this new? ;) It's not really nothing we weren't aware about.
OMG!Like microsoft cares about their users,they just want MORE of them!I hate this kind of comments sooo much!And,who is going to pay for DLC to be released on PC??????HUH????We are microsoft users too,arent we?And does M$ cares about us?
You do have a very good point on this why didnt they give the DLC to MS PC users. Its all bull****. They just want your money and thats all they ever wanted.
lmao, I love how people are acting like this will teach them a lesson or something... This only shows them that they can treat PS fans however they want and they will still buy it in the end.
That would apply if PS3 version did surprisingly well but the 360 version did even better, but the fact it's selling worse despite all the bonuses is a big clue that they've done something wrong.
That would apply if the 360 version sold even better, but the fact it's selling worse despite all the bonuses is a big clue that they've done something wrong.
No,they did nothing wrong.The PS3 version is selling great and chances are that the 360 version sells more because of the DLC.And they also got a great deal of money from the exclusive deal.
So what they did,from a business point of view was perfect.
interstellardave
25-11-08, 18:18
That would apply if PS3 version did surprisingly well but the 360 version did even better, but the fact it's selling worse despite all the bonuses is a big clue that they've done something wrong.
The only thing anyone did wrong was that the 360 doesn't sell as well in the UK as the PS3... doesn't mean that TRU won't sell better worldwide on the 360...
And, if it doesn't, there's still the fact the about 4 major 360 exclusives came out around the same time... TRU had precious little competition on the PS3.
da tomb raider!
25-11-08, 18:18
Oh, the irony.
My comment to the Microsoft + Eidos policy -> Ha. Ha. Ha.
Mr Boldman
25-11-08, 19:22
I really don't go in for all this
'OMGF you suk azz cause u got PS3'
I have a PS3, but if they don't give us any DLC, I don't care. Besides all the DLC is probably there just to try to compensate for the broken traffic light syndrome. ;)
The only thing anyone did wrong was that the 360 doesn't sell as well in the UK as the PS3... doesn't mean that TRU won't sell better worldwide on the 360...
And, if it doesn't, there's still the fact the about 4 major 360 exclusives came out around the same time... TRU had precious little competition on the PS3.
Hmmm....Mirror's Edge, Resistance 2, POP, Call Of Duty...:whi:
Way to go, Eidos. We might have picked the wrong console, but you catered to the wrong audience, buddy. ;)
interstellardave
25-11-08, 19:31
Hmmm....Mirror's Edge, Resistance 2, POP, Call Of Duty...:whi:
You make my argument even better, then, because of the games you listed only 1 is PS3 exclusive... the other 3 factor into the 360 sales as well... the games I mention are exclusives: Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie, GoW2 and Left 4 Dead. :p
But they are still on the PS3 & some PS3 owners will still want them, maybe over TRU so those games are compitition still, doesn't matter what is exclusive or not!:rolleyes:
Godlikesweeper
25-11-08, 19:49
You make my argument even better, then, because of the games you listed only 1 is PS3 exclusive... the other 3 factor into the 360 sales as well... the games I mention are exclusives: Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie, GoW2 and Left 4 Dead. :p
OK,we get it,you are either a 360 fan-boy,or you work at M$,or someone verry close to you works there...
Fine,now stop spaming!
When it comes to the DLC,at first,I wasn't rally upset,I was sure they were just payed to say "Xbox excluseive" and that at the end,they will release it for all platforms.Just like they did with the TV comercial "Out now on xbox360".But now when I heard that M$ is paying for its development,now I officially AM upset!They will leave 2/3 of their fans short-handed!Reall,way to go...
And I STILL didn't get my answear!If CD is such a BIG team that can make 4 hours of *fantastic* gameplay in a month or two,how come they couldn't remove the bugs or gave us the lenght they promised after 2,5 years?Did you call Chuck Norris for help with the DLC?Is he a 360 fan-boy too?
interstellardave
25-11-08, 19:51
But they are still on the PS3 & some PS3 owners will still want them, maybe over TRU so those games are compitition still, doesn't matter what is exclusive or not!:rolleyes:
It just hilights the massive number of 360 titles that have hit this month... it has a much bigger affect on TRU sales than the much smaller number of titles hitting the PS3 at the same time. I'm comparing apples to apples.
Besides... we need to see TRU worldwide sales; I'm more curious than ever after this UK news...
OK,we get it,you are either a 360 fan-boy,or you work at M$,or someone verry close to you works there...
Fine,now stop spaming!
WRONG. You know nothing about me, clearly. I own a PS3 and what I posted is a logical fact-based observation. I don't use name calling but good for you for doing so, I suppose. Such tactics will surely make your arguments better. :p
Godlikesweeper
25-11-08, 20:01
So,you have a ps3 and you spent the last couple of hours explaining people how 360 rocks and how Microsoft are a bunch of good and nice poeple who do nice things for their users...yeah,good for you!:D
I think you can easily see why I got confused...:p
Catrocks89
25-11-08, 20:20
Wow I'm sure they feel stupis about giving all the exclusives to the 360 lol
Candee Sparks
25-11-08, 20:24
Oh what delicious irony. It'll be even funnier when the PS2 sales kick the 360's to the curb, $30 and expected improved gameplay will make sure of that. Those figures are a well deserved slap in the face.
touchthesky
25-11-08, 20:25
I'm not suprised..Tomb Raider is mostly associated with Sony/PS.
It'll just feel..right for folk I guess.
Catrocks89
25-11-08, 20:44
Oh what delicious irony. It'll be even funnier when the PS2 sales kick the 360's to the curb, $30 and expected improved gameplay will make sure of that. Those figures are a well deserved slap in the face.
Yes, yes indeed... the irony is quite delicious. Maybe that'll earn us some exclusives.
toxicraider
25-11-08, 20:48
Hmmm....Mirror's Edge, Resistance 2, POP, Call Of Duty...:whi:
You forgot littlebigplanet! :smk:
Yeah, i'm not surprised, ps brand of course :)
I love the irony in this whole thing :D this made my day right here :D
laralover_07
25-11-08, 20:54
What do those figures prove exactly?
That in the first week of sales, more PS3 players bought TR:U.
That doesn't show anything about game quality, or what platform fans play most. So for all the people who have basically replied, "Suck that Microsoft", what's the point..?
HollabackBoy
25-11-08, 20:59
So for all the people who have basically replied, "Suck that Microsoft", what's the point..?
It's called immaturity. ;)
:D
Sorry, but that made me giggle.
Poor Microsoft - spent lots of money to convince people to buy the X360 version and now the PS3 version leads sales anyway (by far, I might say)...
I hope that encurages CD / BuzzMonkey / Nixxes / etc. to produce a PS3 patch soon :whi:
LostRaider
25-11-08, 21:01
Eidos...take a hint. Lara belongs with us! PS is her home and always will be!
What do those figures prove exactly?
That in the first week of sales, more PS3 players bought TR:U.
That doesn't show anything about game quality, or what platform fans play most. So for all the people who have basically replied, "Suck that Microsoft", what's the point..?
I think people are just desperately looking for reasons to act like Eidos/Microsoft made some drastic mistake. I don't see it though... in the end they got what they wanted all along, sales.
HollabackBoy
25-11-08, 21:02
Eidos...take a hint. Lara belongs with us! PS is her home and always will be!
Actually, no. The PC and Sega Saturn was her original home. :rolleyes:
laralover_07
25-11-08, 21:03
Meanwhile, XBOX 360 leads on console sales. Look at that...
@ Dave Reports such as these are always written for the sensationalism. There are no actual numbers or any indication of the sample size or how the sample was derived. The results are suspect, particularly when they are reported as percents.
You make very valid points as to the strategy being followed by MS. They have been very aggressive in attacking what has been Sony's strong points in the past. Breaking the FFXIII exclusive and aquiring TR exclusive content can be seen as part of that strategy. One could view it as being a big blow for Sony in only have 51% of the TR market.
It's called immaturity. ;)
You can't deny someone a little bit of mischievousness / gloating (?) now and then in times like these - can you? :tea:
... :hug: ... ;)
(Ok ,that WAS immature - but I just had to)
HollabackBoy
25-11-08, 21:19
You can't deny someone a little bit of mischievousness / gloating (?) now and then in times like these - can you? :tea:
You have every right to gloat, but it won't accomplish anything. It's not going to give PlayStation the DLC exclusives, so what's the point? All you're doing is stirring the pot and this is going to turn into a "my-console-is-better-than-your-console" thread.
takamotosan
25-11-08, 21:25
i guess the DLC wasn't so good for business ;)
Actually, no. The PC and Sega Saturn was her original home. :rolleyes:
Yes, & the Saturn bombed quickly so TR didn't achieve stardom or massive sales until it was released on the PS1 along with the PC, fact of history.;)
Yes, & the Saturn bombed quickly so it was TR dindn't achieve stardom or massive sales until it was released on the PS1 along with the PC, fact of history.;)
LOL, ditto! :D
Perhaps TRU is a cracking good game...desired by all sorts of gamers who want to play this sort of genre? After all there are loads of FPS games around but how many in the action/adventure style genre. Maybe it will encourage more games in this style.
I do wonder if they will do a C.O.D.4 style game of the year type thing which included the dlc for that game? Then that would be accessible to all gamers.
Also Overlord which used to be an Xbox 360 inclusive has appeared on PS3 complete with dlc as part of the game.
laralover_07
25-11-08, 21:31
LOL, ditto! :D
ITS HAYLEY!!! :off:
No I agree with the PS being the console lara really shot to fame on, but I don't agree with people saying, "Ha, lol PS3 rules X360 SUx".
lmao, I love how people are acting like this will teach them a lesson or something... This only shows them that they can treat PS fans however they want and they will still buy it in the end.
That's true, but depends on how you look at it.
Imagine how much more money they would've made if the DLC was PS3 exclusive, or available on both platforms. We didn't even get a demo for God's sake.
ITS HAYLEY!!! :off:
No I agree with the PS being the console lara really shot to fame on, but I don't agree with people saying, "Ha, lol PS3 rules X360 SUx".
Boohoo. :tea:
PS3 and 360, neither rule. They are on a respectable level-to-level stage. Me thinks.
That's true, but depends on how you look at it.
Imagine how much more money they would've made if the DLC was PS3 exclusive, or available on both platforms. We didn't even get a demo for God's sake.
that is true^^..the sales would probably been alot greater than when compared to anniversary!!
however I do own both consoles, i bought the 360 version
however the fact ps3 sales were greater doesnt mean they won the battle...we got the dlc!...they didnt:o
We'll see how much DLC is worth :whi:
Why do people keep saying "take that Eidos"
Isnt more like take that Microsoft. Eidos is the one winning here.
Also, I feel that most people who purchased the game either don't know about the DLC nor even care.
Also, arent those sales pretty bad anyways? This is what I read earlier, http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21248
Why do people keep saying "take that Eidos"
Isnt more like take that Microsoft. Eidos is the one winning here.
Also, I feel that most people who purchased the game either don't know about the DLC nor even care.
Also, arent those sales pretty bad anyways? This is what I read earlier, http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21248
poor eidos:(
please dont go bankrupt and not make another game :(:(:(:(:(:(
poor eidos:(
please dont go bankrupt and not make another game :(:(:(:(:(:(
Well theyre not abysmal sales, just underperforming.
poor eidos:(
please dont go bankrupt and not make another game :(:(:(:(:(:(
They can always sell the rights...if we're lucky...so it's unlikely :o
poor eidos:(
please dont go bankrupt and not make another game :(:(:(:(:(:(
According to Jay, Eidos is coming out with some 'hot' titles. The company will be able to spread their financial dependence on several titles, thus avoiding bankruptcy.
Eidos will have no problem staying afloat if they would use multiple titles to secure their revenue instead of basing it all on what Lara Croft brings in.
poor eidos:(
please dont go bankrupt and not make another game :(:(:(:(:(:(
If Eidos went out there's no way their IP's would die with them.
I'm going to wait for the worldwide figures to shove a "I told you so" in their face. I think that USA sales will have more of the 360 than the PS3, tbh. People in the US are such 360 fanatics. :p
_Awestruck_
25-11-08, 22:46
Oh lord. I'd love to see that PS3 will ALWAYS win, but I'm doubting it will sell more than X360 in the final turnout :(
JACOBryanBURNS
25-11-08, 22:55
Kinda my point.. we've had MS's money to pay for development of the DLC etc.. its their money funding its release etc..
Yeh we could have made more if on more formats, but as sony dont fund this stuff wouldnt have been easy for us to pay for it all in advance..
Catch 22 for us..
So Eidos pimped out CD to make DLC for the 360? THIS I wasn't aware of. :pi:
Melonie Tomb Raider
25-11-08, 22:57
MS always pays a bunch of money for bonus content from developers, this is nothing new.
They do more than simply "fund" the extra work, they cash out for it.
You have every right to gloat, but it won't accomplish anything. It's not going to give PlayStation the DLC exclusives, so what's the point? All you're doing is stirring the pot and this is going to turn into a "my-console-is-better-than-your-console" thread.
It seems to me it's quite hard for me to express what I really mean. My previous posts (even though it might not have sounded that way) weren't intended to sound like a "my-console-is-better-than-your-console" installment of a post.
Honestly, for me it's not about getting the DLC on PS3 or which console is better anymore. I'm kinda over that, and I don't like it when people are going on about which version / console is better or worse either, because imho it's all about personal preference.
I didn't quote you in response to the answer you gave to laralover_07 - it was kind of something general.
I was looking at the situation like this:
Microsoft did literally ANYTHING to push sales on their console and yet it seems to have been a futile attempt to pull the franchise "away from the sony consoles". I'm quite sure that it's not the best character trade to be happy about someone's failure - but facing the current situation, and the irony within (especially after the DLC debacle), I couldn't hold back a smile. I know, it's not doing any good - but I just couldn't help it.
MS and Eidos are just pathetic! You wanted to force players to pick up x360 version. No one is that stupid.
And one of those sold PS3 units was mine.:ton:
Did anyone notice that in the official TRU game guide, Xbox360 is more prominent?
Even the first displayed gamepad is a 360 gamepad. I think in the past, reading from left to right, the PS gamepad controls were always described first in a multi-platform guide.
And one of those sold PS3 units was mine.:ton:
Did anyone notice that in the official TRU game guide, Xbox360 is more prominent?
Even the first displayed gamepad is a 360 gamepad. I think in the past, reading from left to right, the PS gamepad controls were always described first in a multi-platform guide.
check out the official system requirements for the PC in bold :whi:
Minimum System Requirements
OPERATING SYSTEM: Microsoft Windows XP (admin rights required)/Microsoft Windows Vista (admin rights required)
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3+GHz or AMD Athlon 2.5+GHz
RAM: 1GB (Windows XP) / 2GB (Windows Vista) system memory
GRAPHICS: NVIDIA GeForce 6 series 6800GT (or better) / ATI 1800XT (or better)
SOUND: Direct X 9.0c compatible sound card and drivers
DVD-ROM: DVD-ROM drive
HARD DRIVE: 8 GB Free Space
INPUT DEVICES: Keyboard and mouse
Recommended System Requirements
OPERATING SYSTEM: Microsoft Windows XP (admin rights required)/Microsoft Windows Vista (admin rights required)
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or Athlon 64 X2 4400+
RAM: 2 GB system memory
GRAPHICS: nVidia GeForce 9800 GTX or ATI HD4800
SOUND: Direct X 9.0c compatible sound card and drivers
DVD-ROM: DVD-ROM drive
HARD DRIVE: 8 GB Free Space
INPUT DEVICES: Microsoft Xbox360 Controller
360 is most likely the base platform (the one that it seems to be advertised for most, and the version they showed off the most) they used due to the fact that they have experience with it (Legend for the 360). The only reason the Sony gamepad was shown in the past 2 guides for Legend and Anni was because the ps2 was the base platform for both of those.
^ or because they were filled by microsoft :whi:
Eddie Haskell
25-11-08, 23:56
i would truly doubt the game would ever go format exclusive ever again.
I'll believe that when you become the CEO...;)
I'll believe that when you become the CEO...;)
Lol! Also, somethings gotta give sometime. There are far too many games platforms out there at the moment at far too many different price points. One of them is going to have to take the bullet sooner or later.
Convergence eventually comes to everything: Banks, Supermarkets, you name it. And in these weird economic times, who knows... Sony still shouldn't be smug though.
LaraCroftGamer
26-11-08, 00:33
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/new-tomb-raider-sales-lead-on-playstation-3
Oh dear. It seems PLAYSTATION fans have still managed to remain loyal despite the way they've been treated. Ah well, at least Microsoft can't ask for the money back, right Eidos ;). It's all been spent on luxury sedans and home makeovers probably.
P.S. Mods, if this has already been discussed, be a love and flush this.
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yup this true :D :) We getting it in 2 weeks for my b-day for the ps3 :D :) can't wait we beat it on pc verison already :D :)
Some numbers:
Europe Charts :
12) Tomb Raider: Underworld (PS3): 80.000
29) Tomb Raider: Underworld (360): 44.000
so thats like 124.000 between this two versions
check out the official system requirements for the PC in bold :whi:
One of the requierements for a game to be a Games for Windows title (like TRU) is native support for the Xbox 360 controller. There wasn't any "zomg CA$H M0N3Y$" in there.
thats awsome!!!
Eidos crashed and burned,carma is a *bad word*
Maybe this will teach eidos,and maybe get the PS3 some proper replay patches and some cool downloadable content:)
More PS3 players more money;) It's times like these that we are lucky eidos are sooo money hungery:P
As lara quoted in TR:L "There seems to be a fine line between coincidence and irony."
:tea:
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 03:00
Ummmm how exactly did Eidos "learn" :vlol:
You do realize this didn't teach Eidos anything? All this means is after that whole boycott crap, PS3 users still bought it.:p
Riiiiiight?;)
well irony bit lara in the arse in underworld:P
Ummmm how exactly did Eidos "learn" :vlol:
You do realize this didn't teach Eidos anything? All this means is after that whole boycott crap, PS3 users still bought it.:p
Riiiiiight?;)
Exactly... I'm so puzzled on how people think this is a victory, I mean... sure a lot of people bought TRU on the ps3, but I'm sure Eidos already knew this was going to happen. Which is exactly why the DLC was on the 360 (and maybe alittle money helped persuade them into this exclusive deal), its the weaker console when It comes to TR players. The DLC was most likely to give 360 owners who normally wouldn't buy the game an extra boost into considering the purchase.
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 03:04
well irony bit lara in the arse in underworld:P
Share with me this irony. :)
I think it's irony how PS3 users said they weren't going to buy it and TRU would flop, but they end up being the reason TRU isn't flopping. :vlol:
TRF makes me crack up. XD
The game is far from being a success in terms of sales (compared to Legend).... I work at Future Shop, and the copies I saw last Friday were still there today. I was really shocked, by how low the demand is against other big games.
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 03:13
The game is far from being a success in terms of sales (compared to Legend).... I work at Future Shop, and the copies I saw last Friday were still there today. I was really shocked, by how low the demand is.
I went to gamestop, circuit city, target, and best buy here and they barely had copies or were sold out. :)
It really depends on where you live. And the gamestop here said they had loads of copies.
So you really can't say if it's doing well or not based on one certain area or store can you. ;)
I went to gamestop, circuit city, target, and best buy here and they barely had copies or were sold out. :)
It really depends on where you live. And the gamestop here said they had loads of copies.
So you really can't say if it's doing well or not based on one certain area or store can you. ;)
I guess you're right. But from what I've seen, I don't think the sales figure will be better than Legend's.
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 03:15
I guess you're right. But from what I've seen, I don't think the sales figure will be better than Legend's.
And from I have seen I think it might be way better than Legend's. ;)
I guess we have to wait and see. :)
Yeah, at the gamestop I picked my copy up at they had a stack of the pre-order art books so I'm guessing the game is doing well around here aswell.
I guess you're right. But from what I've seen, I don't think the sales figure will be better than Legend's.
Same, Legend was her big return and such. I don't see any future TR games selling as well or as fast as Legend... unless CD ram the series into the ground and someone else takes over, then It can be Lara's second comeback. xD
I'm sure the Xbox 360 version is better. We're not on PlayStation 1 days - Tomb Raider has changed - a lot.
CrazyMonkey
26-11-08, 04:24
Doesn't mean much to be honest. This is what, the UK we're talking about? AKA PS3 Land, where people blindly bought PS3s for FIFA.
In North America, TRU will sell much more on the 360.
ajrich17901
26-11-08, 04:26
Doesn't mean much to be honest. This is what, the UK we're talking about? AKA PS3 Land, where people blindly bought PS3s for FIFA.
In North America, TRU will sell much more on the 360.
highly doubt it:whi:
CrazyMonkey
26-11-08, 04:28
highly doubt it:whi:we'll see. :D
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 04:29
highly doubt it:whi:
Actually I was at all those stores I mentioned and the sold out one were the 360 ones, and the ones with like a few copies left were the PS3 ones. :whi:
Shrantellatessa
26-11-08, 04:32
Great news! :yah: Apparantly, love (of PS3 owners for their consoles & for TRU) took over money!
Take that, €iŁo$ and "Bill" Gate$ :mis:
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 04:34
Great news! :yah: Apparantly, love (of PS3 owners for their consoles & for TRU) took over money!
Take that, €iŁo$ and "Bill" Gate$ :mis:
Once again. HELLO! This is good for Eidos, it means TRU is selling plain. Y'all are just looking for ways to put Eidos down. :vlol:
Camera Obscura
26-11-08, 04:50
Actually I was at all those stores I mentioned and the sold out one were the 360 ones, and the ones with like a few copies left were the PS3 ones. :whi:
I wish Tomb Raider was THAT popular over here. I want to wrestle an old lady for my copy of Underworld. Not handed to me like some second rate game. :mad:
:p
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 05:01
I wish Tomb Raider was THAT popular over here. I want to wrestle an old lady for my copy of Underworld. Not handed to me like some second rate game. :mad:
:p
I didn't wrestle and old lady sadly. :(
I wrestled a four year old chimp with the mind of an old lady. :p
:vlol:
No but the guy even told me at gamestop when I picked it up he asked what I was picking up I told him TRU and he said, "You and everyone else today" And he had like 4 art-books left and he said they had a bunch when the shippment first came in. :)
Fallen.Angel
26-11-08, 05:45
Well over here Target's sold out of the PS3 version of it, but there's still several XBox 360 games left. IMO I still think PS3 will get the most sales. But who knows I guess we shall see xD All stores are different, it'll be interesting to see the results
Shrantellatessa
26-11-08, 05:50
Once again. HELLO! This is good for Eidos, it means TRU is selling plain. Y'all are just looking for ways to put Eidos down. :vlol:
Maybe that is what we want :mis: Or if you prefer, "Take that, Bill Gate$!"
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 05:55
Maybe that is what we want :mis: Or if you prefer, "Take that, Bill Gate$!"
OK well once again. Y'all are acting like you won. YOU ALL SAID THAT IF PS3 DIDN'T SELL EIDOS WOULD LOSE MONEY. Guess what? :yik:
THEY GOT MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!:vlol:
So you guys didn't get what you wanted. Eidos did. :)
This isn't about winning or losing! It's about the way TR fanbase has been treated lately, basically like :cen:! I think some hope that if TRU does better on the PS3 that hopefully next time round Eidos will implement a bit of equality, i.e a demo, same save system & Trophies (they will have no choice about Trophies next time).;)
It's still early days of course those statistics could shift at some point. I don't see any winners really especially in this community. The resent events have at times made it horrible ito be here.:( I've cared about this community but lately I've been thinking about giving it a miss.:o
I decided to stick to my PS3, irregardless of how the 360 was treated.
Ward Dragon
26-11-08, 06:13
This isn't about winning or losing! It's about the way TR fanbase has been treated lately, basically like :cen:! I think some hope that if TRU does better on the PS3 that hopefully next time round Eidos will implement a bit of equality, i.e a demo, same save system & Trophies (they will have no choice about Trophies next time).;)
Absolutely :) While we're at it, the Trophies should be exactly the same as the Achievements (I heard that in some games, the requirements are changed for the Trophy version which makes it ridiculously difficult to unlock compared to the equivalent Achievement's requirements).
It's still early days of course those statistics could shift at some point. I don't see any winners really especially in this community. The resent events have at times made it horrible ito be here.:( I've cared about this community but lately I've been thinking about giving it a miss.:o
I'm sure things will calm down in a little while :) (especially if Eidos/Crystal release a patch to fix the bugs :whi:).
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 06:17
This isn't about winning or losing! It's about the way TR fanbase has been treated lately, basically like :cen:! I think some hope that if TRU does better on the PS3 that hopefully next time round Eidos will implement a bit of equality, i.e a demo, same save system & Trophies (they will have no choice about Trophies next time).;)
It's still early days of course those statistics could shift at some point. I don't see any winners really especially in this community. The resent events have at times made it horrible ito be here.:( I've cared about this community but lately I've been thinking about giving it a miss.:o
How is it Eidos' responsibility for the trophies? Nixxes did the game go email them. :) The demo was part of a deal Eidos made with MS, which they needed. More money means more funding for them to stay around, so that means :yik: MORE TR! And the save system again, the responsibility of Nixxes who did both the PS3 & PC version. You can't blame Eidos or CD for Nixxes' mistakes. And all this DLC bull crap abbout Eidos crapping on fans, SONY knows about the DLC but don't want to put any effort into making a deal. ( I personally think they don't want to support a product that might rival their own "Uncharted") :)
Lara.Jolie7
26-11-08, 06:17
I hope they learn now
And make no exclusivity to earn more money ....
Shrantellatessa
26-11-08, 06:20
OK well once again. Y'all are acting like you won. YOU ALL SAID THAT IF PS3 DIDN'T SELL EIDOS WOULD LOSE MONEY. Guess what? :yik:
THEY GOT MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!:vlol:
So you guys didn't get what you wanted. Eidos did. :)
But at least they won't do another deal with devil to earn more money; so they've learned a good lesson, and Bill Gate$ too ;)
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 06:22
But at least they won't do another deal with devil to earn more money; so they've learned a good lesson, and Bill Gate$ too ;)
So you are saying it's evil because they need money for more funding so people can keep their jobs? It's evil because they are almost going bankrupt and need the money? Riiiiiight so EVIL;)
Ward Dragon
26-11-08, 06:23
How is it Eidos' responsibility for the trophies? Nixxes did the game go email them. :)
Eidos is the publisher and they pay for the game to be developed, so if Trophies were to be added then it would have to be done at Eidos' request :)
How is it Eidos' responsibility for the trophies? Nixxes did the game go email them. :) The demo was part of a deal Eidos made with MS, which they needed. More money means more funding for them to stay around, so that means :yik: MORE TR! And the save system again, the responsibility of Nixxes who did both the PS3 & PC version. You can't blame Eidos or CD for Nixxes' mistakes. And all this DLC bull crap abbout Eidos crapping on fans, SONY knows about the DLC but don't want to put any effort into making a deal. ( I personally think they don't want to support a product that might rival their own "Uncharted") :)
It is Eidos' as the publisher & CD's as the main developer responsibilty, they oversaw the developent, don't be so niave to just blame Nixxes. By the way you do know there are bugs in glitches are evident in every version.:rolleyes: Who are you going to blame for the flaws in the 360 version?
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 06:30
It is Eidos' as the publisher & CD's as the main developer responsibilty, they oversaw the developent, don't be so niave to just blame Nixxes. By the way you do know there are bugs in glitched in every version.:rolleyes: Who are you going to blame for the flaws in the 360 version?
Yes I do (Don't be so niave to think I don't know:)) and I will blame no one because I know they tried their hardest with making the game and I am waiting and hoping for a patch. If it never comes oh well, I will live knowing they made enough money to make sure the next TR will be a better product, and if it isn't then I will start to question whether or not they are putting any effort into it. ;)
So you blame Nixxes for flaws in the PS3 version but you blame nobody for the 360 issues. where is the sense in that?:) Forget it this will go nowhere & it's leading a bit off topic.;)
Shrantellatessa
26-11-08, 06:46
So you are saying it's evil because they need money for more funding so people can keep their jobs? It's evil because they are almost going bankrupt and need the money? Riiiiiight so EVIL;)
I actually used that only as an expression "deal with the devil" not as a statement in itself. Anyway, and of course they won't use that money for vacations in Hawaii and new expensive cars and we are 100% sure that the two extra levels weren't taken off the original game ;)
You seem very pro-€iŁo$, did you get a free game or what, and on what console you playing TRU? :p
To be fair, Sony didn't pay for downloadable content, not because they "don't care" about Tomb Raider but because that is not their strategy.
Their strategy is to put money into their 1st and 2nd party studios. And it's working for them, Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Santa Monica, Liverpool and others all put out excellent games.
MS is meanwhile funding DLC for third party multiplatform games like Fallout, Tomb Raider and GTA.
Personally, I'll take Sony's first and second parties over DLC anyday!
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 08:37
I actually used that only as an expression "deal with the devil" not as a statement in itself. Anyway, and of course they won't use that money for vacations in Hawaii and new expensive cars and we are 100% sure that the two extra levels weren't taken off the original game ;)
You seem very pro-€iŁo$, did you get a free game or what, and on what console you playing TRU? :p
I am playing on 360, I am a 360 & PS3 owner, I am not pro or anti Eidos. I just see it from their point of view. They needed the money plain and simple, they need to feed their families and pay their workers. Are we so greedy to ask them to forfit money that is helping them survive and make more game? ;)
But at least they won't do another deal with devil to earn more money; so they've learned a good lesson, and Bill Gate$ too ;)
No he didn't. Bill Gates had nothing to do with the 360 DLC deals (TRU, GTA, etc), and he's still worth billions of dollars anyway and i doubt he cares a peanut of how much TRU sales on PS3 and 360.
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 08:38
No he didn't. Bill Gates had nothing to do with the 360 DLC deals (TRU, GTA, etc), and he's still worth billions of dollars anyway.
:tmb:
:D
Some numbers:
Europe Charts :
12) Tomb Raider: Underworld (PS3): 80.000
29) Tomb Raider: Underworld (360): 44.000
so thats like 124.000 between this two versions
If those numbers are true,that's terrible.
Evilmititis
26-11-08, 08:51
Ok, Lara Croft started her super amazing adventures on the PlayStation system and PC....
not the Xbox (didn't even exist at the time)....
I would think that it would be in Eidos best interest to really promote the PlayStation versions of Tomb Raider, since that is where she started...
long time ago, when she came out, "PlayStation" players fell in love with Lara Croft, and remained fans of hers till today.
So,... the people still fans of Lara's, even if just a little, are most likely going to be fans of THE DAMN PLAYSTATION SYSTEMS!!!
THINK DUMB ASSES!!!!!!
Ok, Lara Croft started her super amazing adventures on the PlayStation system and PC....
It was on the Sega Saturn, TR became famous on PlaySstation but started on the Saturn.
Evilmititis
26-11-08, 08:59
Plus (to Eidos), you might wanna keep the fans of Lara happy (mostly using the PS3 system), as Crystal has been doing so damn well, b/c they are your biggest money makers!
They want all the goodies Tomb Raider has to offer (I SURE AS HELL DO!!!),
the downloads, the accessories, toys, ex....
let them have the choice...
The people who chose xbox don't know **** about lara (doesn't go for everyone...). The people playing TR using the PS3 are more likely to "know" Lara, and love her and have been around since she came about....
They will do you more good then the sneaky *******s making the xbox....
I say,.... GO FOR PLAYSTATION!!!
Evilmititis
26-11-08, 09:01
It was on the Sega Saturn, TR became famous on PlaySstation but started on the Saturn.
oh...
ok, I was wrong.....
silly me!
but anyway
even the fact that it made it big on the PS1 still proves my point....
Lara basically does her best on the PS....
so they shouldn't be bought out by the xbox....
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 09:05
Plus (to Eidos), you might wanna keep the fans of Lara happy (mostly using the PS3 system), as Crystal has been doing so damn well, b/c they are your biggest money makers!
They want all the goodies Tomb Raider has to offer (I SURE AS HELL DO!!!),
the downloads, the accessories, toys, ex....
let them have the choice...
The people who chose xbox don't know **** about lara (doesn't go for everyone...). The people playing TR using the PS3 are more likely to "know" Lara, and love her and have been around since she came about....
They will do you more good then the sneaky *******s making the xbox....
I say,.... GO FOR PLAYSTATION!!!
oh...
ok, I was wrong.....
silly me!
but anyway
even the fact that it made it big on the PS1 still proves my point....
Lara basically does her best on the PS....
so they shouldn't be bought out by the xbox....
Your posts scream sony fanboy I have played TR since TR1 and I am an xbox player. And a lot of xbox users I talk to and see on forums know exactly who Lara and Tomb Raider is. ;)
Don't assume. :)
Godlikesweeper
26-11-08, 09:06
I don't know about the consols,but Lara was played on the PCs since 1996...:hea:
I don't know about the consols,but Lara was played on the PCs since 1996...:hea:
Aside from a saturn and dreamcast version early on. Lara was console exclusive to Sony until Legend. So thats like 5 TR's only on Sony consoles (yes and PC which has had every version, but PC not a console, yet Mr Gates)
Evilmititis
26-11-08, 09:13
Your posts scream sony fanboy I have played TR since TR1 and I am an xbox player. And a lot of xbox users I talk to and see on forums know exactly who Lara and Tomb Raider is. ;)
Don't assume. :)
Yeah, I am a deffenant Sony fan boy I guess...
I don't care much for xbox and it is really upsetting that 360 is getting extra content exclusively for Tomb Raider Underworld...
Well, in all actuallity, I don't think any of tomb raider should be exclusive either PS3 or 360, both should get equal shares of Tomb Raider!
But, I must defend my favored system....
Have you played the previous Tomb Raiders?
(Just curious, b/c only from Legend on is it on xbox)
Aside from a saturn and dreamcast version early on. Lara was console exclusive to Sony until Legend. So thats like 5 TR's only on Sony consoles (yes and PC which has had every version, but PC not a console, yet Mr Gates)
Was an Amiga CD32 version ever considered? Loved that one. :)
Evilmititis
26-11-08, 09:15
Aside from a saturn and dreamcast version early on. Lara was console exclusive to Sony until Legend. So thats like 5 TR's only on Sony consoles (yes and PC which has had every version, but PC not a console, yet Mr Gates)
yeah, that is about as much as I knew (prolly seen to be very ignorant at this point...)
but, can't help but throw a deffence, b/c I strongly prefer the PS system...
point blank, I think it is better!
What's your opinion?
Carbonek_0051
26-11-08, 09:16
Yeah, I am a deffenant Sony fan boy I guess...
I don't care much for xbox and it is really upsetting that 360 is getting extra content exclusively for Tomb Raider Underworld...
Well, in all actuallity, I don't think any of tomb raider should be exclusive either PS3 or 360, both should get equal shares of Tomb Raider!
But, I must defend my favored system....
Have you played the previous Tomb Raiders?
(Just curious, b/c only from Legend on is it on xbox)
Yes I have played and own every TR. What does that have to do with this discussion?:)
Godlikesweeper
26-11-08, 09:22
but PC not a console, yet
Its not and won't be.PCs are much much much more...
Its not and won't be.PCs are much much much more...
They trying.. believe me, they are trying.. PC's as we know them NOW wont be, but they are changing..
Was an Amiga CD32 version ever considered? Loved that one. :)
Ahh the amiga cd32.. what a system that was.. loved it death, literally it broke :(
The only thing anyone did wrong was that the 360 doesn't sell as well in the UK as the PS3... doesn't mean that TRU won't sell better worldwide on the 360...
And, if it doesn't, there's still the fact the about 4 major 360 exclusives came out around the same time... TRU had precious little competition on the PS3.
I hope I can quote this for emphasis without getting thrashed.
Not suprising at all :) We all know where is the biggest TR fanbase situated.
interstellardave
26-11-08, 12:21
So,you have a ps3 and you spent the last couple of hours explaining people how 360 rocks and how Microsoft are a bunch of good and nice poeple who do nice things for their users...yeah,good for you!:D
I think you can easily see why I got confused...:p
All I tried to get people to realize was two truths:
These numbers were presented--and read by most people--as being worldwide figures, whereas it was just the UK. If people got that fact I don't think they'd have been going so crazy over it, laughing at "the irony" etc. It's prudent to wait to get the big picture.
Second, when I go into stores I see way more 360 games I want to buy than PS3 ones, both exclusives and otherwise. I don't have to own MS stock to see that... I'm just a gamer who has to make tough choices with limited funds. A lot of other people are in similar situations. Everyone, even the most hard-core Sony loyalist, knows that there are fewer AAA titles on the PS3 and multiplatform games are usually better on the 360 too. I don't get any pleasure out of that fact, it's simply a fact.
This simple logic is all that I have presented here. TRU, quite frankly, comes up short against other newly released games like Fable 2 and GoW2 on the 360... for many 360 owners TRU might be pushed back to a budget buy a few months from now as a result.
Seriously did I ever say anything like "MS rules!" or "Sony stinks!" Nah, you'll never catch me doing typical fanboy stuff like that. You can attack my points all day, but not me! :ton:
PS: I probably come off as more pro-MS because someone has to balance some of the crazy anti-MS statements made on here a lot of times. Some people literally demonize MS (and EIDOS, CD, etc) while acting as if Sony is somehow "different" even though they are a gigantic mega-corporation themselves. Naturally, in such a climate, I may come out looking like a MS fanboy. My $ have supported Sony--and their Blu Ray strategy--quite a bit, though.
Went around the shops today - PS3 TR:U seems to be at "#2" everywhere, with X360 TR:U at #3 or #4.
:tmb: Come on, let#s knock CODWOW off the top. ;)
People around here are acting so immature, it's pretty obvious all this shows is that the DLC for Xbox 360 had no effect on PS3 sales.
I for one think people are just acting this way because they are ticked off about DLC only being for the 360. Why don't you get the fact that they're being developed with Microsoft's money into your heads? Sony didn't do crap, that's why this is happening in the first place, why would Eidos give PS3 users the DLC when Microsoft's money was used for it? :rolleyes:
And if it wasn't for Microsoft, there wouldn't be DLC in the first place.. so yeah, people.. Waste of time arguing.
All I tried to get people to realize was two truths:
These numbers were presented--and read by most people--as being worldwide figures, whereas it was just the UK. If people got that fact I don't think they'd have been going so crazy over it, laughing at "the irony" etc. It's prudent to wait to get the big picture.
Second, when I go into stores I see way more 360 games I want to buy than PS3 ones, both exclusives and otherwise. I don't have to own MS stock to see that... I'm just a gamer who has to make tough choices with limited funds. A lot of other people are in similar situations. Everyone, even the most hard-core Sony loyalist, knows that there are fewer AAA titles on the PS3 and multiplatform games are usually better on the 360 too. I don't get any pleasure out of that fact, it's simply a fact.
This simple logic is all that I have presented here. TRU, quite frankly, comes up short against other newly released games like Fable 2 and GoW2 on the 360... for many 360 owners TRU might be pushed back to a budget buy a few months from now as a result.
Seriously did I ever say anything like "MS rules!" or "Sony stinks!" Nah, you'll never catch me doing typical fanboy stuff like that. You can attack my points all day, but not me! :ton:
PS: I probably come off as more pro-MS because someone has to balance some of the crazy anti-MS statements made on here a lot of times. Some people literally demonize MS (and EIDOS, CD, etc) while acting as if Sony is somehow "different" even though they are a gigantic mega-corporation themselves. Naturally, in such a climate, I may come out looking like a MS fanboy. My $ have supported Sony--and their Blu Ray strategy--quite a bit, though.
Well said.
I personally got inudated with games that I wanted at this time.
GOW2
Resistance2
Far Cry2
Left for Dead 4
Fallout 3
Fable 2
LBP
Mirrors Edge
in addition to TRU.
I suspect that TRU is going to sell much like Uncharted. Uncharted started out selling terribly but has come on strong and just recently passed 2 million in sales. I think the initial sales of TRU will look low but as word of mouth gets out that it is a very good TR game the sales will improve. It may not be the first choice in purchase for many but I think many will eventually get around to picking it up, particularly with the delayed releases of the DLC.
interstellardave
26-11-08, 14:58
Well said.
I personally got inudated with games that I wanted at this time.
GOW2
Resistance2
Far Cry2
Left for Dead 4
Fallout 3
Fable 2
LBP
Mirrors Edge
in addition to TRU.
I suspect that TRU is going to sell much like Uncharted. Uncharted started out selling terribly but has come on strong and just recently passed 2 million in sales. I think the initial sales of TRU will look low but as word of mouth gets out that it is a very good TR game the sales will improve. It may not be the first choice in purchase for many but I think many will eventually get around to picking it up, particularly with the delayed releases of the DLC.
Yes there are too many games I want to buy too. You mentioned two Sony exclusives that I want to get: LBP and Resistance 2. I actually had LBP in my hand at Best Buy when it first came out. I also had Fallout 3 for the 360 in my other hand. I could only get one and I wound up getting Fallout 3--which I don't regret, even though I do plan on getting LBP as soon as I can. As for Resistance I'm not big on FPS multiplayer but the huge boss creatures intrigue me so I'll get it at some point just to experience the single player game, which should have some awesome game-play moments.
It just suprises me that the 360 got the demo and obvioulsy seem to be the preferred platform of choice for this release and yet the PS3 seems to be winning when it comes to sales. Are PS3 owners getting download content or is that another XBox exclusive?
Considering Playstation was Tomb Raiders biggest platform for years I cant help but feel as a PS2 and soon to be PS3 owner slightly hard done by.....
LittleDragonZ
26-11-08, 20:37
Hopefully Playstation will see into this and ask for DLC for us PS3 players. One can hope...
Lleonard Pler
26-11-08, 23:45
If without a demo and without DLC, the PS3 version can still be the best seller, the good thing is that Eidos will always release TR games for Sony platforms, no matter what Microsoft pays them. I was afraid that the next TR would be a X360 exclusive, but now I think that it will never happen.
Tsukinikawatte
27-11-08, 02:31
You can take me out of the count. I took my game back.
CrazyMonkey
27-11-08, 04:45
If those numbers are true,that's terrible.They're morons (Eidos). Sure, rush out the product, that will really help you make sales.
Hell they lost my sale after I read the reviews.
PS3TombRaider
27-11-08, 20:07
I was actually surprised by the results, even though they represent one area. I have a PS3 and I went to buy Tomb Raider Underworld the day after it came out. I went to Best Buy and they were completely sold out of the version for PS3. They had a lot of xbox and Wii versions left on the display, however. I wound up getting the second last copy at my local gamestop. Now I don't know if it was due to understocking the PS3 version and overstocking the other two, but if it isn't the sales might be similar here in the U.S., which would create a solid argument for DLC on the PS3.
Chocola teapot
27-11-08, 20:14
If I were in a certain game company that I shall not mention's shoes right now i'd cry. How fooooooooooooooooooooooooooolish.
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