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Henhead
16-12-08, 22:25
This happened a few days ago, just read it, and though I would share :D



A teacher has thrown a student into detention and threatened to call the police for using Linux in her classroom.

The teacher spotted one of her students giving a demonstration of the HeliOS distro to other students. In a somewhat over-the-top reaction, she confiscated the CDs, put the student on detention and whipped off a letter to the HeliOS Project threatening to report it to the police for distributing illegal software.

"I am sure you strongly believe in what you are doing but I cannot either support your efforts or allow them to happen in my classroom," writes the teacher, identified only as Karen.

"At this point, I am not sure what you are doing is legal. No software is free and spreading that misconception is harmful. I will research this as time allows and I want to assure you, if you are doing anything illegal, I will pursue charges as the law allows.

"I along with many others tried Linux during college and I assure you, the claims you make are grossly over-stated and hinge on falsehoods. I admire your attempts in getting computers in the hands of disadvantaged people but putting Linux on these machines is holding our kids back," she writes.

Not content with completely missing the point of Linux, Karen concluded by throwing down the ultimateinsult to the Linux advocates: "This is a world where Windows runs on virtually every computer and putting on a carnival show for an operating system is not helping these children at all.

"I am sure if you contacted Microsoft, they would be more than happy to supply you with copies of an older verison of Windows and that way, your computers would actually be of service to those receiving them..."

The HeliOS project members were understandably upset, and quickly fired off a reply.

"Please...investigate to your heart's content. Linux is a free as-in-cost and free as-in-license operating system. It was designed specifically for those purposes...

"I don't know when you attended college Karen but the Linux of even two years ago pales in feature and ability to what there is available now... and that in turn will pale in a year's time. Linux is superior to Microsoft Windows in so many ways, they are too numerous to mention here."




Email From Teacher


..observed one of my students with a group of other children gathered around his laptop. Upon looking at his computer, I saw he was giving a demonstration of some sort. The student was showing the ability of the laptop and handing out Linux disks. After confiscating the disks I called a confrence with the student and that is how I came to discover you and your organization. Mr. Starks, I am sure you strongly believe in what you are doing but I cannot either support your efforts or allow them to happen in my classroom. At this point, I am not sure what you are doing is legal. No software is free and spreading that misconception is harmful. These children look up to adults for guidance and discipline. I will research this as time allows and I want to assure you, if you are doing anything illegal, I will pursue charges as the law allows. Mr. Starks, I along with many others tried Linux during college and I assure you, the claims you make are grossly over-stated and hinge on falsehoods. I admire your attempts in getting computers in the hands of disadvantaged people but putting linux on these machines is holding our kids back.

This is a world where Windows runs on virtually every computer and putting on a carnival show for an operating system is not helping these children at all. I am sure if you contacted Microsoft, they would be more than happy to supply you with copies of an older verison of Windows and that way, your computers would actually be of service to those receiving them..."

Karen xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx Middle School
AISD


Reply from HeliOS


Hmmmm....

I suppose I should, before anything else, thank you. You have given me the opportunity to show others just what a battle we face in what we do. "We" being those who advocate, support and use Free Open Source Software and Linux in particular.

If you find my following words terse or less than cordial, take a breath and prepare yourself...what I have to say to you are soft strokes to your hair in comparison to what you are about to experience.

First off, if there was even the slightest chance that I was doing something illegal, it would not have been done. To think that I would involve my kids in my "illegal" activities is an insult far beyond outrage. You should be ashamed of yourself for putting into print such none sense.

And please...investigate to your heart's content. You are about to have your eyes opened, that is if you actually investigate anything at all. Linux is a free as-in-cost and free as-in-license operating system. It was designed specifically for those purposes. Linux is used to free people from Microsoft. The fact that you seem to believe that Microsoft is the end all and be-all is actually funny in a sad sort of way. Then again, being a good NEA member, you would spout the Union line. Microsoft has pumped tens of millions of dollars into your union. Of course you are going to "recommend" Microsoft Windows". To do otherwise would probably get you reprimanded at the least and fired at the worst. You are only doing what you've been instructed to do.

You've been trained well.

I don't know when you attended college Karen but the Linux of even two years ago pales in feature and ability to what there is available now...and that in turn will pale in a year's time. linux is superior to MS windows in so many ways, they are too numerous to mention here...I am weary of enumerating them. Unlike Microsoft who meters their "improvements" and then shovels them to you every five years or so for purchase; Linux releases their improvements upon their completion. We receive the newest and the best of the system when it is tested to be usable and stable. Karen, you have no idea the slavery you work under...but you don't know any better. The shame of it is, you are trapped with millions of other teachers in obeying the NEA and preaching the goodness of Windows and Microsoft. A superior, free and absolutely entertaining method of operating your computer is within reach and you are unable to grasp it.

The most disturbing part of this resides in the fact that the AISD purchases millions of dollars of Microsoft Software in a year's time when that money could be better spent on educating our children. A dedicated School Teacher would recognize that fact and lobby for the change to Free Open Source Software and let the money formally spent on MS bindware be used on our kids.

A teacher who cared about her students would do that.

That is sad past my ability to express it to you. Don't shackle your students in your prison Karen.

Now. You give that boy his disks back. Aaron is a brilliant kid and he's learned more using Linux than he ever did using Windows. Those disks and their distribution are perfectly legal and even if he was "disruptive", you cannot keep his property. I have placed a call to the AISD Superintendent and cc'd him a complete copy of your email. It looks like we will get to meet in his office when School starts again after the holiday. I am anxious to meet a person who is this uninformed and still holds a position of authority and learnedness over our children.

Ken Starks
HeliOS Solutions


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viper456
16-12-08, 22:35
That is major pwnage! What a silly ***** lmao.

jamieoliver22
16-12-08, 22:40
Haha.

It's kinda sad really, just how stubborn she actually is. People like this really **** me off (and make me laugh at the same time), because they are so set in their own ways and they always think that they know what is best.

I can't wait until she is proven wrong, and how wrong she really is...

freeze10108
16-12-08, 22:41
Ooooooh, 3rd degree burn!!! :mis::cln:

_ush2_
16-12-08, 23:15
wat da hell is Lunix????????:confused::confused::confused:

Lavinder
16-12-08, 23:19
wat da hell is Lunix????????:confused::confused::confused:

Google my friend ;).

IceColdLaraCroft
16-12-08, 23:19
Sorry but she really over stepped her place. Her personaly opinion doesn't demand that she CONFISCATE something that isn't hers when she very clearly is ignorant of what she was seeing.

jamieoliver22
16-12-08, 23:20
wat da hell is Lunix????????:confused::confused::confused:

Firstly, learn how to spell. "wat" and "da"... And it is spelt 'Linux'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

Tidus
16-12-08, 23:23
Oh I really dislike people like this...I got yelled at once when a customer at Target couldnt find the vinyl record players. She told me I was incompetent and was 'age-ist' or something. Lots of loons in this world. :whi:

Natey168
16-12-08, 23:26
Reading Mr. Starks' reply made me happy. :p

Punaxe
16-12-08, 23:27
Well, the teacher would have been right to stop illegal activities in her classroom. Apparently she just didn't know about Linux, which is forgiveable, unless she was an IT teacher or so. Educate her, return the disks, and everyone can be on his way again.
The weird part is that she sends out an e-mail to the HeliOS guy before investigating the issue as she said she would...

IceColdLaraCroft
16-12-08, 23:27
It's Skynet

Lara's Backpack
17-12-08, 04:13
Ive said it before and Ill say it again, previous generations and computers just dont go hand in hand :tea: