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I just bought TRU for the PS2 as I wanted to complete my TR PS2 collection.:) I have my afternoon free so I'm going to play it now. I've created this thread simply as a place where those members who are interested or are curious can ask questions about the this version of TRU. Others & I with the PS2 version can & answer any questions once we've completed it.;)
Hey KB! Nice idea :tmb:
Questions:
Health system: wii-like or PS3-like?
Can Lara do tumbles/acrobatics like in the PS3 version?
da tomb raider!
23-01-09, 14:38
Are there many bugs?
Thanks KB! :hug:
1) How are the graphics in comparison to TRU for the Wii, and Anniversary and Legend for the PS2?
2) Are the Wii extras included into the PS2 version?
3) Can you replay levels, or is it like the PS3/Xbox 360 version?
Okay this may seem an odd question but what is the necessary memory card space needed for the game?
Oh, great! Can you make and post some screens, please? :)
Thanks
:wve:
KB you are brilliant! :D
I won't have a chance to get a copy for a few days yet :hea: . . . but I'd love to hear your report on the questions that have already been asked. My two issue with TR games have always been the "camera" and "saves (only at check points)". The bugs annoy me, but if I can at least pass through it I'm fine.
Thanks!;)
edit: Have you noticed that TRU box is blue just like AOD . . . is that supposed to be a clue to the game's overall quality?
Is it any different to the current gen version, or is it just the same game with worse graphics?
I should find out tomorrow, anyway. :D I've just received the e-mail to tell me that the game has been dispatched. :jmp:
edit: Have you noticed that TRU box is blue just like AOD . . . is that supposed to be a clue to the game's overall quality?
No, that's a clue to the game being on PS2, since pretty much all PS2 boxes are blue :)
Is it any different to the current gen version, or is it just the same game with worse graphics?
I should find out tomorrow, anyway. :D I've just received the e-mail to tell me that the game has been dispatched. :jmp:
I don't mean to be rude, but how could a PS2 run current gen graphics?
I've not got my copy yet and refuse to until Eidos/Crystal show me some media online.
I don't mean to be rude, but how could a PS2 run current gen graphics?
I don't mean to be rude, but what part of Angelus' post made you think he expected a PS2 to run current-gen graphics?
or is it just the same game with worse graphics?
Well I've just played the opening & I'm at the Med section. So far I would say the graphics are not on par with TRL & TRA which were very good looking games for the PS2. However, saying that I am playing it on a 52" HD TV, I played the other games on an ordinary TV & I'm now used to next-gen graphics as well so this influences my opinion.:) Player tailoring & everything else in the menu seems just the same as the PS3 version.The start menu shows Lara's yacht in the Med rather then the burning manor & judging from the headings under extras there is nothing new to unlock.:(
The opening sequence on the PS2 version is the recap trailer & then flicks to screen saying "Today". There are some subtle differences in how you do things in Croft Manor at the beginning & once completed it flicks straight to the MED without the opening credits. Zip & Alister are just static images on the laptop still like the Wii's version. Once the scene is over there is an in-game cutscene showing Lara entering the water & diving down to the ruins rather then actually being able to do it like the next-gen versions.
This cut in gameplay is a shame as the descent into the blue kicks off the adventure nicely in the next-gen versions. In the PS2 version after the cutscene showing Lara jumping into the sea, yes jump & not dive it abruptly flicks to her at the underwater cave entrance & she cannot swim that far up so exploration is limited. I better get back to playing the game & I'll try to answer more questions, I'm enjoying the comparing & it's making me appreciate the visuals on my PS3 copy so much more!:D
I don't mean to be rude, but how could a PS2 run current gen graphics?
I don't mean to be rude, but what part of Angelus' post made you think he expected a PS2 to run current-gen graphics?
Thank you. :tmb:
Some people... anything for an argument.
Once the scene is over there is an in-game cutscene showing Lara entering the water & diving down to the ruins rather then actually being able to do it like the next-gen versions...
Now that's surprising, you swim down from the boat on the wii version yourself...
dox online
23-01-09, 15:33
Can you chose outfits at the beginning of the level? Can you show some images of Lara?
Well I've just played the opening & I'm at the Med section. So far I would say the graphics are not on par with TRL & TRA which were very good looking games for the PS2. However, saying that I am playing it on a 52" HD TV,
WOW thats a big tv hehe. scaling on that must be really strange for a SD title :)
Unfortunatly i have to agree with Kiss-Bite
Graphics did not wow me at all, the contrast is all wrong, blacks look grey, its really bright in places and the 'blue' of the medeteranian sea is replaced with 'greeny/grey'.
I'm very interested to play it all the way through but my god am i going to be thankful for my PC version if it keeps up like this.
Kiss-bite was right about the quality, TR: Legend and Anniversary both seemed alot crisper and richer on the PS2. :confused:
And as yet i haven't seen a shark.
Maybe it will get better as I progress through the game.
...there is an in-game cutscene showing Lara entering the water & diving down to the ruins rather then actually being able to do it like the next-gen versions.
In the PS2 version after the cutscene showing Lara jumping into the sea, yes jump & not dive it abruptly flicks to her at the underwater cave entrance & she cannot swim that far up so exploration is limited.
That's not good. That's not good at all. Talk about destroy atmosphere.
WOW thats a big tv hehe. scaling on that must be really strange for a SD title :)
Indeed, that is why it's quite difficult to judge the visuals, I do think TRL & TRA look better on the same screen so this is the only thing I can go by. I'm enjoying the PS2 version though all the same. Right, time to play Underpus a visit (I really don't like being so mean to him:D) I'll keep you posted...
dox online
23-01-09, 15:40
Any new outfits?
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.
"Playstation 2 Tomb Raider Underworld Review - or a Lesson in why gamers should upgrade to current consoles"
I bought this game today because:
A. It was cheap
B. I fancied checking out the 'extra areas'
Now I feel robbed.
:(
Having played until the end of Thailand, and can only offer my sincerest condolences to those of you who can only play the PS2 version.
I thought about it, and the more I think about it, the more it fits - this is essentially Tomb Raider Underworld: Anniversary.
They've taken that old Anniversary butchering knife out and reworked TR:U into something of a mess.
Croft Manor:
More corridors and white ledges. Exciting? No. Reminiscent of the most complained about things in the previous two TR games? Yes.
Med Sea:
Start at the bottom of the ocean. No sharks. Can't swim upwards, or very far to the side. The seabed is almost void of plant life, having two small ruins - two small and much less intricate ruins - in which to simply find the keys.
Then starts the TR:A 'ing. Endless dull, empty corridors leading into the temple.
Then more dull empty corridors leading to the Kraken. The Kraken room is much more linear, with less places to explore, and one way of getting up to the spike-platform.
Boy, if you thought TR:A was a corridor and white-ledge-fest, you ain't seen NOTHING yet!
You don't even get to return to the Kraken room and find other pathways down again - you get the gauntlet, follow more corridors, dive into a small pool of water and Lara's back on her boat again.
Amanda's boat consists of the deck (simply exit through the door, not go around the back, down the stairs and down into the ship), more corridors and after the Natla clip, it's ledgefest until you escape.
Thailand: Can't get near the boat.
Suffered majorly from the - oh this area looks nice! Until you realise all you have to do is run through it.
The Tiger area consists of two ledges.
The Shiva courtyard doesn't require you to operate the lift, and both mirrors are next to the hands you lower to put them in. No offward exploring through the other ace room.
Following yet more dull and empty corridors, Lara ends up in a small circular room (where we at last meet 3 Naga) leading into the Thor room.
______________________________________________
The graphics are worse than Anniversary. The colours are pale and washed out, making everything look pretty terrible.
Oh, insult to injury - Progressive scan doesn't work on my Tv, even though it did on Anniversary! Even with the widescreen option ticked, it didn't fill the screen on my tv.
The controls are very unresponsive, changing at what seems like random. For example, up and jump sometimes makes Lara climb walls, and at other times just the up button will*.
*If you're lucky. Sometimes it takes two or three presses of the direction you want Lara to go before she actually does it - when you're on ledges.
The camera is even more awkward than PS3/PC/X360. Its more sluggish and slower to move. Lara's handheld camera/binocs doesn't seem to be present.
The camera sometimes pops up to show you the way in the most unuseful, patronising places. Lara enters an area where all she can go is forwards, up some unmissable ledges. So the camera shows us the ledges. Gee, necessary.
The audio cues always seemed out of sync with the action, and Lara's voice seemed mouse-quiet, even on full volume, the music drowned her out - when it actually worked. Sometimes the music cue wouldn't even trigger.
(Speaking of triggering, I had to run around and around and interact/interact with Thor's glove before the cutscene kicked in.. )
__
I'm seriously considering taking it back and getting a refund. What a waste of money.
Those of you who haven't played the current-gen versions of the game, I don't blame you for probably thinking those of us raving about how much we like the game, are insane. Current gen version is NOTHING like the butchered heap that is the PS2 version.
It's such a shame. I love Ps3 Underworld, but this is an insult.
Its not fair to overly big up something if it isn't deserved.
Thankfully the story of Underworld rocks and far outweighs any negetives that worse graphics give.
EVERY tomb raider fan should play Underworld on some format or other
dox online
23-01-09, 15:49
They must have doppelganger then!
They must have doppelganger then!
:confused:
dox online
23-01-09, 15:51
There is no other excuse for it being so late!
chris/riv: can you film the gameplay for us on youtube before returning it? :O
There is no other excuse for it being so late!
have tried to explain a few times about the delay.. its all down to submissions, territories, different regions, xmas, and cuddly toy.. needless to say when 1 thing goes wrong it has a huge knock on effect.. xmas being one of the biggest major pains as it meant companies closed, were excessively busy etc pre and post the period..
dox online
23-01-09, 15:55
You saying it has no other features? (You will spoil it for me if you tell but is there a doppelganger?)
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.
"Playstation 2 Tomb Raider Underworld Review - or a Lesson in why gamers should upgrade to current consoles"
I bought this game today because:
A. It was cheap
B. I fancied checking out the 'extra areas'
Now I feel robbed.
:(
Having played until the end of Thailand, and can only offer my sincerest condolences to those of you who can only play the PS2 version.
I thought about it, and the more I think about it, the more it fits - this is essentially Tomb Raider Underworld: Anniversary.
They've taken that old Anniversary butchering knife out and reworked TR:U into something of a mess.
Croft Manor:
More corridors and white ledges. Exciting? No. Reminiscent of the most complained about things in the previous two TR games? Yes.
Med Sea:
Start at the bottom of the ocean. No sharks. Can't swim upwards, or very far to the side. The seabed is almost void of plant life, having two small ruins - two small and much less intricate ruins - in which to simply find the keys.
Then starts the TR:A 'ing. Endless dull, empty corridors leading into the temple.
Then more dull empty corridors leading to the Kraken. The Kraken room is much more linear, with less places to explore, and one way of getting up to the spike-platform.
Boy, if you thought TR:A was a corridor and white-ledge-fest, you ain't seen NOTHING yet!
You don't even get to return to the Kraken room and find other pathways down again - you get the gauntlet, follow more corridors, dive into a small pool of water and Lara's back on her boat again.
Amanda's boat consists of the deck (simply exit through the door, not go around the back, down the stairs and down into the ship), more corridors and after the Natla clip, it's ledgefest until you escape.
Thailand: Can't get near the boat.
Suffered majorly from the - oh this area looks nice! Until you realise all you have to do is run through it.
The Tiger area consists of two ledges.
The Shiva courtyard doesn't require you to operate the lift, and both mirrors are next to the hands you lower to put them in. No offward exploring through the other ace room.
Following yet more dull and empty corridors, Lara ends up in a small circular room (where we at last meet 3 Naga) leading into the Thor room.
______________________________________________
The graphics are worse than Anniversary. The colours are pale and washed out, making everything look pretty terrible.
Oh, insult to injury - Progressive scan doesn't work on my Tv, even though it did on Anniversary! Even with the widescreen option ticked, it didn't fill the screen on my tv.
The controls are very unresponsive, changing at what seems like random. For example, up and jump sometimes makes Lara climb walls, and at other times just the up button will*.
*If you're lucky. Sometimes it takes two or three presses of the direction you want Lara to go before she actually does it - when you're on ledges.
The camera is even more awkward than PS3/PC/X360. Its more sluggish and slower to move. Lara's handheld camera/binocs doesn't seem to be present.
The camera sometimes pops up to show you the way in the most unuseful, patronising places. Lara enters an area where all she can go is forwards, up some unmissable ledges. So the camera shows us the ledges. Gee, necessary.
The audio cues always seemed out of sync with the action, and Lara's voice seemed mouse-quiet, even on full volume, the music drowned her out - when it actually worked. Sometimes the music cue wouldn't even trigger.
(Speaking of triggering, I had to run around and around and interact/interact with Thor's glove before the cutscene kicked in.. )
__
I'm seriously considering taking it back and getting a refund. What a waste of money.
Those of you who haven't played the current-gen versions of the game, I don't blame you for probably thinking those of us raving about how much we like the game, are insane. Current gen version is NOTHING like the butchered heap that is the PS2 version.
It's such a shame. I love Ps3 Underworld, but this is an insult.
That so looks my PS3 TRU review. Seriously.
WOW . . . after reading Rivendell's review I might just rent the darn game instead. . . . Better yet . . . I guess it is time to upgrade.
I will keep reading the reviews from you guys before I go spend my hard earned euros . . .
Thanks and keep those reviews coming . . . :tmb:
Its not fair to overly big up something if it isn't deserved.
Thankfully the story of Underworld rocks and far outweighs any negetives that worse graphics give.
EVERY tomb raider fan should play Underworld on some format or other
:vlol:
Seriously? Haha...I won't say anything (because Carbonek will kill me if I mention it ever again :p). But you really can't be serious about the story...
Shark_Blade
23-01-09, 16:03
Seems like the PS2 version isn't worth it at all. :/ It's really terrible considering that this thing has been delayed and it is still buggy and unfinished, plus it was butchered down even more!
I have a strong feeling the DLC is gonna be the same mess as the rest of the TRU format.
Scathing review, Riv! :mis:
Interesting that the PS2 launch was low-key when you bear in mind the state of the game, isn't it? Where were the pre-launch reviews? Media? A case of damage limitation, perhaps?
That so looks my PS3 TRU review. Seriously.
Alright, I was only trying to knock off Rivendell. :p
After reading his review, I think I'll just won't buy it. I'm having too much fun playing Sonic Adventure 2 on the Dreamcast.
TRU would look so better on Dreamcast :D
Then starts the TR:A 'ing. Endless dull, empty corridors leading into the temple.
Then more dull empty corridors leading to the Kraken.
It's no different from the PC/PS3/360 version then. Certainly that part anyway.
But the rest of what you say is somewhat perturbing. It's all starting to make sense now why there was no media online before release.
OMG! I can't believe they would butcher it so much :eek: Well, as long as they make money they don't care, do they?
And dox online, why do you keep talking about the doppelganger? Of course shes going to be in the game? Then who would blow up the mansion and kill Alister if she wasn't?
dox online
23-01-09, 16:13
Play as the doppelganger!
OMG! I can't believe they would butcher it so much :eek: Well, as long as they make money they don't care, do they?
And dox online, why do you keep talking about the doppelganger? Of course shes going to be in the game? Then who would blow up the mansion and kill Alister if she wasn't?
He keeps going on about there supposedly being a playable Doppelhoe in the PS2 version.
Someone's going to be mightily disappointed, methinks... :whi:
It's no different from the PC/PS3/360 version then. Certainly that part anyway.
'Tis.
There are more, longer corridors into the temple, and the ones inside it are just run-through, as opposed to the wall climbing, balance-beam, crouch-tunnel/collapsed floor corridors on current gen.
'Tis.
There are more, longer corridors into the temple, and the ones inside it are just run-through, as opposed to the wall climbing, balance-beam, crouch-tunnel/collapsed floor corridors on current gen.
Those things to me are more of a hindrance than anything else, just shamelessly padding out the way forwards. I'd rather they'd channelled all the obstacles into the main areas and allow me to get there quicker rather than having to traverse tedium like a lone balance beam in a corridor or a wall climb over a pit.
But to each their own. And as I said, the other things you mention about the various levels are far more disturbing.
Lara.Jolie7
23-01-09, 16:18
And I was thinking, if they was working in the Ps2 version all this time...
No... Was just locked somewhere...
:/
I'll play for ps2 cuz I want to see how good and bad it's, I avoid so much spoilers and now is time to see the history etc...
So I can only play in Ps2, then will be ps2
dox online
23-01-09, 16:20
Disturbing? How? It is a 16+ unlike the others, what is it that is disturbing?
I will punch jay up the... best not say it.
erm? do i need to apply for a restraining order ;) hehe
what is it that is disturbing?
That they destroyed the game.
dox online
23-01-09, 16:22
erm? do i need to apply for a restraining order ;) hehe
I might give you a strain in the neck with my arms!
Disturbing? How? It is a 16+ unlike the others, what is it that is disturbing?
Disturbing as in what Rivendell & Kiss-Bite have said so far worries me. A lot.
Play as the doppelganger!
It only look like we'll get to do that in [spoilers]Lara's Shadow[spoilers]
And does the PS2 doppelhoe have a braid? :p
:vlol:
Seriously? Haha...I won't say anything (because Carbonek will kill me if I mention it ever again :p). But you really can't be serious about the story...
Yeah i loved the game...i was pleased the way the story went along and how it ended.
I might give you a strain in the neck with my arms!
*off topic so apologises* have u seen the size of me? :)
*back on topic*
PS2 is/was no longer the main/base platform, and trying to fit a game onto a platform but trying to keep as MUCH of the next gen versions was an absolute mountain to climb.
dox online
23-01-09, 16:26
Thought I would get a big boxing glove in 3DS max and have a go at internet bullying.
And does the PS2 doppelhoe have a braid? :p
Not sure.
I want to play as The doppelganger!
OMG! I can't believe they would butcher it so much :eek: Well, as long as they make money they don't care, do they?
And dox online, why do you keep talking about the doppelganger? Of course shes going to be in the game? Then who would blow up the mansion and kill Alister if she wasn't?
Wow...way to spoil it for thsoe who haven't played it :p
PS2 is/was no longer the main/base platform, and trying to fit a game onto a platform but trying to keep as MUCH of the next gen versions was an absolute mountain to climb.
Which begs the question, why not just make a different game? Like the DS version, using the TRA engine?
Or, why bother with the PS2 at all, if it meant butchering the proper versions of the game?
If you point in a direction whilst Lara is on a ledge she does indeed not respond always & it can take a couple of pushes on the analogue until she does. I too had trouble with the camera especially swimming in the sharkless Med. I got the game very cheap & don't regret it but I do think I'm enjoying it because of comparing rather then it being actually good so...:D
Which begs the question, why not just make a different game? Like the DS version, using the TRA engine?
Or, why bother with the PS2 at all, if it meant butchering the proper versions of the game?
Amen. But I guess it would cost too much.
DS games are cheaper to make, after all. Plus less-time-consuming.
Which begs the question, why not just make a different game? Like the DS version, using the TRA engine?
Or, why bother with the PS2 at all, if it meant butchering the proper versions of the game?
Hindsight says a lot.. can answer all questions `in hindsight`.. Decisions were made and a ps2/wii version was developed. Not in a position to say was good/bad decision just know it was made and we have a game at the end of it.
DS games are cheaper to make, after all. Plus less-time-consuming.
Not necessarily true.. all game development has a cost, and sometimes even the smallest platforms cost a lot to develop for.
If you point in a direction whilst Lara is on a ledge she does indeed not respond always & it can take a couple of pushes on the analogue until she does. I too had trouble with the camera especially swimming in the sharkless Med. I got the game very cheap & don't regret it but I do think I'm enjoying it because of comparing rather then it being actually good so...:D
Is there the same problem as on the wii - when Lara is shimmying along a ledge, you push left and she goes right?
Shark_Blade
23-01-09, 16:31
It seems PS players have the least love with TRU.
On PS3, the save system was awful. Bugs and cut down features were relatively similar to 360. No DLC.
On PS2, it's the most horrible, butchered down and rushed game compared to the other platforms.
:wve:
Which begs the question, why not just make a different game? Like the DS version, using the TRA engine?
Or, why bother with the PS2 at all, if it meant butchering the proper versions of the game?
As much as I'm a fan of the PS2 and hate the PS3 & 360, I gotta say John's bang on the money. Why bother making a game at all if this Frankenstein's monster of a game (that's the sense I get from what's been said so far) is the result?
dox online
23-01-09, 16:32
Are there any extra outfits and can you have different outfits in one level without needing to be in treasure hunt?
Hindsight says a lot.. can answer all questions `in hindsight`.. Decisions were made and a ps2/wii version was developed. Not in a position to say was good/bad decision just know it was made and we have a game at the end of it.
But did no-one think that while the wii version had alot of areas cut out, like the PS2 version, it had a lot added in the control scheme/ mini-games, and that the PS2 version was going to have none of these extras?
If, truly, no-one thought that perhaps it wasn't going to be a great idea and would, in-fact, be a waste of money and resources that could have gone into improving a valid version of the game (wii, for example), then I'd be seriously worried.
But did no-one think that while the wii version had alot of areas cut out, like the PS2 version, it had a lot added in the control scheme/ mini-games, and that the PS2 version was going to have none of these extras?
If, truly, no-one thought that perhaps it wasn't going to be a great idea and would, in-fact, be a waste of money and resources that could have gone into improving a valid version of the game (wii, for example), then I'd be seriously worried.
I guessing it wasnt deemed a waste of money, same developer did ps2/wii versions so we probably got a 2 for 1 sale price *joke*
Technically the wii/ps2 are not much dissimilar so putting same `base` code onto both platforms would have been an easy option.
dox online
23-01-09, 16:38
Can you choose outfits before the beginning of the level and can you have the classic outfit?
Can you choose outfits before the beginning of the level and can you have the classic outfit?
PS2 and Wii versions are essentially the same (minus controller stuff and puzzles based around the controller) If Wii didnt have extra costumes/characters then ps2 doesn't.
Technically the wii/ps2 are not much dissimilar so putting same `base` code onto both platforms would have been an easy option.
Ah, the easy option. I wonder how many of TRU's flaws can be explained by CD taking the easy option... :whi:
Lara.Jolie7
23-01-09, 16:40
I don't know about you guys
But did some of you ever played the last Guitar Hero, and Mercenaries for ps2?
TRu like Jay sayd isn't the main plataform
The things din't had a desing like anniversary, they had time to copy and adapt the game
And I'm happy to have a ps2 version to play
And there's a lof of people here in brazil that is happy 2, cuz they will have the chance to play Underworld in the console they have
A lot of ppl don't have ps3, xb360 and a good pc to run underworld, So ps2 will be and we are happy to play a little since we want but don't have how to play a next gen game
What a ****-up. There goes any thoughts that the PS2 version might manage some small surprise redemption of recent developments.
disneyprincess20
23-01-09, 16:41
But did no-one think that while the wii version had alot of areas cut out, like the PS2 version, it had a lot added in the control scheme/ mini-games, and that the PS2 version was going to have none of these extras?
If, truly, no-one thought that perhaps it wasn't going to be a great idea and would, in-fact, be a waste of money and resources that could have gone into improving a valid version of the game (wii, for example), then I'd be seriously worried.
The thing is, the PS2 is still the most widely owned console. To not release on this console would cut out a huge chunk of the market. It's just a shame that Buzz Monkey don't seem to have done as good a job as before.
It's not the main platform for development any more, but considering the amount of gamers who have one, it was probably a wise choice to release on the PS2. It's just a shame that this version didn't live up to the other versions.
Ah, the easy option. I wonder how many of TRU's flaws can be explained by CD taking the easy option... :whi:
CD didnt do the PS2 version..
CD didnt do the PS2 version..
PS2 version isn't the only flawed one...
The Great Chi
23-01-09, 16:42
Having read the reviews above on PS2, I will not be put off because.....
My PS2 order is due in, in a few days and I am looking forward to actually being able to play a new tomb raider game right through.
I have no other option to actualy play the game, as my low spec PC will not play TRU properly and I will not buy another make of console just to play one game.
Anyway, someone willl have to put a 'PS2 TRU version help thread' up shortly, to help us PS2 players who have not yet played the game or even know the storyline, and will likely get stuck somewhere :D
Pity, theres no sharks though :o
PS2 and Wii versions are essentially the same (minus controller stuff and puzzles based around the controller) If Wii didnt have extra costumes/characters then ps2 doesn't.
And that comment has talked me out of buying Underworld on PS2 altogether. Thanks for the info Jay :tmb:
Larson_1988
23-01-09, 16:42
CD didnt do the PS2 version..
The PS2/Wii versions would be much better if Crystal Dynamics made them.
PS2 version isn't the only flawed one...
Well CD only made the 360 version. Altho they created all central assets for all platforms, coding for all other platforms were done by different companies.
I thought they made the 360 and PC version. :pi:
I thought they made the 360 and PC version. :pi:
Nope PC/PS3 was handled by Nixxes.
As i said story, graphics, sound, all ingame assets were created by Crystal for ALL platforms. However actual coding of the game USING these assets was done by different companies.
PS3/PC - Nixxes
PS2/Wii - BuzzMonkey
360/Assets - Crystal Dynamics
Make sense?
Carbonek_0051
23-01-09, 16:46
I thought they made the 360 and PC version. :pi:
Nope Nixxes made both the PS3 & PC version. At least to my knowledge.
EDIT: Damn you Jay, you sly old fox.:p
The PS2/Wii versions would be much better if Crystal Dynamics made them.
Well duh.:p
Just compare it to Legend and Anniversary.It looks bloody horrible.It looks worse than AOD,tbh.The PSP TR games looked better,but unfortunately they were ported and not completely developed by BuzzMonkey.
And that comment has talked me out of buying Underworld on PS2 altogether. Thanks for the info Jay :tmb:
Rental? ;)
Nope PC/PS3 was handled by Nixxes.
As i said story, graphics, sound, all ingame assets were created by Crystal for ALL platforms. However actual coding of the game USING these assets was done by different companies.
PS3/PC - Nixxes
PS2/Wii - BuzzMonkey
360/Assets - Crystal Dynamics
Make sense?Lots of sense. Answers other questions too. :whi:
I was going to buy the PS2 version even though I have the PS3 version,just to compare and I for some reason thought the PS2 would be something better....(not sure why I thought that)but I don't have to worry about that any more:)
UBISOFT!!!:)
I dont understand why you guys complain so much, you should thank you got the game for so many consoles! :mad:
I think the PS2 version is a nice port of the Wii version, the graphics are cute and the controls aren't a mess like some other **** we 'encountered'.
dox online
23-01-09, 16:52
I got the bad versions...
TrKing_Rulz
23-01-09, 16:55
Well CD only made the 360 version. Altho they created all central assets for all platforms, coding for all other platforms were done by different companies.
What happened to them doing the PC version? :mad:
And, seriosly, these guys over Eric? :rolleyes:
What happened to them doing the PC version? :mad:
And, seriosly, Eric over these guys? :rolleyes:
Dont get your eric over these guys bit.
Nixxes have done ALL CD's pc titles over the years i believe. They work that closely together its probably easier to say they are effectively one and the same when it comes to Crystal and PC titles, altho am sure my friend at Nixxes (who reads these forums regularly) will scream at me for saying that LOL
_Awestruck_
23-01-09, 17:06
CD/Eidos are really doing a bad job at handling production. From what I hear, TRU is a major disappointment on the PS2, which is sad due to the fact many people were looking forward to it.
Let's just hope TR9 isn't a platform game, shall we?
just played teh beginning med sea level and there was no PRE-LEVEL outfit selection like on the PC etc
just played teh beginning med sea level and there was no PRE-LEVEL outfit selection like on the PC etc
Didnt think u got selection til after the med level onto thailand?
dox online
23-01-09, 17:21
Can you do it, Jay?
Can you do it, Jay?
I dont have the game infront of me to be able to check, but am guessing tis the same as the other versions in that the first chance you get to change costume whilst playing thru the main game is on the thai level.
dox online
23-01-09, 17:28
So it is not like the wii version where you can only change outfits in treasure hunt mode?
ajrich17901
23-01-09, 17:29
Wow i was hopin they would use the legend engine for the ps2 version...seems everything went wonky...feel bad for the people who are stuck playin the watered down version.
So it is not like the wii version where you can only change outfits in treasure hunt mode?
You cant change at Thailand on wii version in story mode? I never got chance to play thru the ps2/wii versions since i dont have either deck on my desk
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.
"Playstation 2 Tomb Raider Underworld Review - or a Lesson in why gamers should upgrade to current consoles"
I bought this game today because:
A. It was cheap
B. I fancied checking out the 'extra areas'
Now I feel robbed.
:(
Hmmm. Well that satisfied my curiosity about the PS2 version - you just saved me $20-30. Sounds as though they didn't even try.
sandra croft
23-01-09, 17:59
I would like to know if the PS2 version has areas that the Xbox version doesn´t have like the exclusive areas of the wii?
After reading Riv's review I only have to say: Go to the shop and exchange the game for other better game ;):).
Maybe it can sell great but I think many will return the game..
EDIT: Judging by the graphics, which aren't even at TRL's shoulders, that was the last of Lara on the PS2
Well CD only made the 360 version. Altho they created all central assets for all platforms, coding for all other platforms were done by different companies.
Well, since a great deal of the bugs we got weren't platform specific, seems like it was the central assets that were flawed. Perhaps that 'new' engine? Which leads me back to my original point: how many of the bugs we got were down to CD taking 'the easy route' during development?
Judging by the graphics, which aren't even at TRL's shoulders, that was the last of Lara on the PS2
Indeed, from what I can make of the PS2 version, it seems Underworld is an horrific note to go out on.
The game looks terrible! :eek:
dox online
23-01-09, 18:30
You have bad contrast and brightness settings! I love the game.
dox online if you have a question to ask you have no need to ask the same thing several times. That is just spamming a thread. And folks remember to make sure that you add spoiler tags!
Good job I cancelled my preorder then, even if it was dirt cheap.
I'll give it a couple weeks for when it's on amazon preowned for a fiver. :p
I feel bad for those who have no other platform to play TRU on though. Ah well.
dox online
23-01-09, 18:43
dox online if you have a question to ask you have no need to ask the same thing several times. That is just spamming a thread. And folks remember to make sure that you add spoiler tags!
What was the matter with my last post? Plus how do I do the bit where I have to get rid of the bridges since the rooms are blocked?
I have it and actually really love the game. I haven't finished it yet, but I think the graphics are much better than Anniversary and the gameplay is vastly superior.
The levels and areas, while they don't have as much exploration as Anniversary, are still quite large and actually very similar to the 360 version in size. It's amazing that they could fit those areas into the PS2 platform.
I think a big problem is people are comparing it to the 360/PS3 versions, when this is a PS2! Come on, rate it for the platform that it's on. This is a great game and a hell of a way to close out the life of that console.
I say, great job Crystal/Eidos/Buzz Monkey!
dox online
23-01-09, 18:49
Do you know how to do lower the sun platform?
I think a big problem is people are comparing it to the 360/PS3 versions, when this is a PS2! Come on, rate it for the platform that it's on. This is a great game and a hell of a way to close out the life of that console.
Some PS2 games like God of War have bigger-scale environments than Underworld, and better graphics than the UW PS2 port too.
I have it and actually really love the game. I haven't finished it yet, but I think the graphics are much better than Anniversary and the gameplay is vastly superior.
The levels and areas, while they don't have as much exploration as Anniversary, are still quite large and actually very similar to the 360 version in size. It's amazing that they could fit those areas into the PS2 platform.
I think a big problem is people are comparing it to the 360/PS3 versions, when this is a PS2! Come on, rate it for the platform that it's on. This is a great game and a hell of a way to close out the life of that console.
I say, great job Crystal/Eidos/Buzz Monkey!
Agreed :tmb:
Why people comparing to the PC/PS3/X360 versions? :(
I think the graphics is awesome on PS2. :) And the extra areas... :tmb:
One of the best game on PS2!
Wow, that doesn't sound very good...:o
How can the graphics be worse than TRA/TRL? That's strange, you would expect something better after all this delay.
Time to upgrade people! ;)
WOW ... and TRU on PS3 wasn't even worth finishing. The PS2 version must be the game from hell with stink lines coming off of it as it sits on the store shelves waiting to con someone out of their money. :ton:
this "new direction" couldn't be happening at a better time.
dox online
23-01-09, 19:01
Why do people hate the PS2 version?
ColdCaseDetK
23-01-09, 19:06
Any screenies up yet?
Any screenies up yet?
Check here: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=145128
:)
ColdCaseDetK
23-01-09, 19:08
Nice thanks. Ohhh those don't look so hot. Oh well.
ajrich17901
23-01-09, 19:08
Why do people hate the PS2 version?
Because its watered down and looks even worse then anniversary, then again its all down to opinions. After playin the ps3 version i would never be able to play this without cringing.
Disasterpiece.
23-01-09, 19:55
Cool! This looks interesting! I'm going to look on here more often! :D
Could someone who has TRU please answer my question? Its driving me mad! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=145164
Thanks!
Why do people hate the PS2 version?
Well, I imagine lots of the answers are going to be like this one (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=3405648&postcount=22).
Either they will have played the proper current gen game, and don't like the Ps2 version, or I can forsee lots of only-PS2 players playing it and thinking 'well, sod this' because it doesn't seem like the game has taken the more noticable leap from legend/TR:A that it did in the current gen version, and still has many of the same problems and flaws.
Oh - forgot to mention - Ps2 version has no sprint feature!
Larson_1988
23-01-09, 20:01
^ Does it have the adrenaline shot feature?
Well, I imagine lots of the answers are going to be like this one (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=3405648&postcount=22).
Either they will have played the proper current gen game, and don't like the Ps2 version, or I can forsee lots of only-PS2 players playing it and thinking 'well, sod this' because it doesn't seem like the game has taken the more noticable leap from legend/TR:A that it did in the current gen version, and still has many of the same problems and flaws.
Oh - forgot to mention - Ps2 version has no sprint feature!
does the sprint button do something else instead in the ps2 version?
Let's just hope TR9 isn't a platform game, shall we?
I agree I agree. Next gen consoles only, plz (Including PC).
Are some cutscenes rendered in FMV sequences???
I still think this game has to be played fully in next-gen 'cause that's where the tru-experience is. Legend/ Anniversary was fair for PS2 but not Underworld this time.
dox online
23-01-09, 20:41
Are some cutscenes rendered in FMV sequences???
I still think this game has to be played fully in next-gen 'cause that's where the tru-experience is. Legend/ Anniversary was fair for PS2 but not Underworld this time.
I think they are all from the wii version. I think that the graphics were good.
Well, I imagine lots of the answers are going to be like this one (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=3405648&postcount=22).
Either they will have played the proper current gen game, and don't like the Ps2 version, or I can forsee lots of only-PS2 players playing it and thinking 'well, sod this' because it doesn't seem like the game has taken the more noticable leap from legend/TR:A that it did in the current gen version, and still has many of the same problems and flaws.
Oh - forgot to mention - Ps2 version has no sprint feature!
The sprint feature was useless, there's no need to use it at all so well, I could live without it.
I think they are all from the wii version. I think that the graphics were good.
^that's what I thought. But the ending at least HAS to be rendered. It's too good to not have it rendered.
And one more question - is there a widescreen support for this? I saw the screens and I guess obviously it does. But does it also have progressive scan?
EDIT: - nevermind found my answer.
Night Crawler
23-01-09, 20:45
Sounds like a load of balls. Knew it would be.
Kittypower
23-01-09, 20:46
This might convince eidos to say no to the ps2.
I understand that most people here have already played TRU on the platforms that were released last year (PC/PS3/Xbox360/Wii), but could someone who hasn't played TRU in any of these platforms yet (such as DFM and Roli) place a review of the PS2 game for the rest of us who hasn't yet played TRU or been able to get a copy of the PS2?
It would be nice to hear an unbiased review for a change.
Your time and effort will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!
The sprint feature was useless, there's no need to use it at all so well, I could live without it.
I allllways used it! :D Especially underwater, which in Ps2 seems to slow her down.
Lara-Thomas
23-01-09, 21:16
Got my TRU PS2 game today ,
And to be quite honest Im extreamly dissappointed with it. You can tell that it was ported as attention to detail (compared to Legend & Anniversary on that platform) it was terrible. Graphics were worse then Legend & Anniversary's.
TR9 should be a next gen only game.
Xbox 360 , PS3 & PC (possibly the Wii)
Well, there you are Eidos, standing at the edge of the Everest mountain, just waiting for someone to push you to go all the way down. So what is going to cause this major drop?...
Oh, yeah, the PS2 version of Underworld.
Eidos = done.
got my tru ps2 game today ,
and to be quite honest im extreamly dissappointed with it. You can tell that it was ported as attention to detail (compared to legend & anniversary on that platform) it was terrible. Graphics were worse then legend & anniversary's.
tr9 should be a next gen only game.
Xbox 360 , ps3 & pc (possibly the wii)
agreed.
Jack Croft
23-01-09, 21:30
Oh dear Eidos..bye bye?
dox online
23-01-09, 21:32
Got my TRU PS2 game today ,
And to be quite honest Im extreamly dissappointed with it. You can tell that it was ported as attention to detail (compared to Legend & Anniversary on that platform) it was terrible. Graphics were worse then Legend & Anniversary's.
TR9 should be a next gen only game.
Xbox 360 , PS3 & PC (possibly the Wii)
What quality are you playing on?
I have the PS2 version and the graphics are yummy!
Oh dear Eidos..bye bye?
Maybe, but mainly Tomb Raider for PS2 bye bye. And about time :).
There are lots of different things in some levels, esp Mexico & beneath Croft Manor which have completely different routes & also completely different areas & puzzles. I'm afraid to say there has been no sharks & no spiders up until now & I'm on the last part of Mexico. There are secrets that are not in vases but there aren't as many as the next-gen versions, so far I haven't been able to select different outfits either.:(
sandra croft
23-01-09, 22:05
There are lots of different things in some levels, esp Mexico & beneath Croft Manor which have completely different routes & also completely different areas & puzzles. I'm afraid to say there has been no sharks & no spiders up until now & I'm on the last part of Mexico. There are secrets that are not in vases but there aren't as many as the next-gen versions, so far I haven't been able to select different outfits either.:(
Would you say this diffrences make the game worth getting if you already have the xbox version?
Would you say this diffrences make the game worth getting if you already have the xbox version?
Clearly the differences arent for the better, so I can safely say without having played the game: no.
Damn Eidos.:hea:
Why couldn't Buzz Monkey just use the by CD-developed Anniversary/Legend face? All they oughta do is "Hey guys, can we use your face models?"
It's not like they're rivals.
Actually despite the obvious difference in visuals, believe it or not I actually preferred the level design of Mexico so much more then the PS3 version. I found it more challenging, it had so many more platforming sections & it was like a labyrinth, I did have the classic feeling for a while.:D
I also had the classic feeling playing the beginning of the arctic level on the PS2 version as well. There's a whole section on the motorbike not featured in the next-gen versions. You ride the motorbike through icy caves over thin bridges encountering many long jumps across the mountain side. I'm sure it's the arctic concept art we've seen that was missing from the next-gen versions. The motorbike ride in the icy world was a lot of fun, again I preferred it to what we got in the next-gen versions in terms of level design, what a surprise!:D
Candee Sparks
23-01-09, 23:52
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.
"Playstation 2 Tomb Raider Underworld Review - or a Lesson in why gamers should upgrade to current consoles"
I bought this game today because:
A. It was cheap
B. I fancied checking out the 'extra areas'
Now I feel robbed.
:(
Having played until the end of Thailand, and can only offer my sincerest condolences to those of you who can only play the PS2 version.
I thought about it, and the more I think about it, the more it fits - this is essentially Tomb Raider Underworld: Anniversary.
They've taken that old Anniversary butchering knife out and reworked TR:U into something of a mess.
Croft Manor:
More corridors and white ledges. Exciting? No. Reminiscent of the most complained about things in the previous two TR games? Yes.
Med Sea:
Start at the bottom of the ocean. No sharks. Can't swim upwards, or very far to the side. The seabed is almost void of plant life, having two small ruins - two small and much less intricate ruins - in which to simply find the keys.
Then starts the TR:A 'ing. Endless dull, empty corridors leading into the temple.
Then more dull empty corridors leading to the Kraken. The Kraken room is much more linear, with less places to explore, and one way of getting up to the spike-platform.
Boy, if you thought TR:A was a corridor and white-ledge-fest, you ain't seen NOTHING yet!
You don't even get to return to the Kraken room and find other pathways down again - you get the gauntlet, follow more corridors, dive into a small pool of water and Lara's back on her boat again.
Amanda's boat consists of the deck (simply exit through the door, not go around the back, down the stairs and down into the ship), more corridors and after the Natla clip, it's ledgefest until you escape.
Thailand: Can't get near the boat.
Suffered majorly from the - oh this area looks nice! Until you realise all you have to do is run through it.
The Tiger area consists of two ledges.
The Shiva courtyard doesn't require you to operate the lift, and both mirrors are next to the hands you lower to put them in. No offward exploring through the other ace room.
Following yet more dull and empty corridors, Lara ends up in a small circular room (where we at last meet 3 Naga) leading into the Thor room.
______________________________________________
The graphics are worse than Anniversary. The colours are pale and washed out, making everything look pretty terrible.
Oh, insult to injury - Progressive scan doesn't work on my Tv, even though it did on Anniversary! Even with the widescreen option ticked, it didn't fill the screen on my tv.
The controls are very unresponsive, changing at what seems like random. For example, up and jump sometimes makes Lara climb walls, and at other times just the up button will*.
*If you're lucky. Sometimes it takes two or three presses of the direction you want Lara to go before she actually does it - when you're on ledges.
The camera is even more awkward than PS3/PC/X360. Its more sluggish and slower to move. Lara's handheld camera/binocs doesn't seem to be present.
The camera sometimes pops up to show you the way in the most unuseful, patronising places. Lara enters an area where all she can go is forwards, up some unmissable ledges. So the camera shows us the ledges. Gee, necessary.
The audio cues always seemed out of sync with the action, and Lara's voice seemed mouse-quiet, even on full volume, the music drowned her out - when it actually worked. Sometimes the music cue wouldn't even trigger.
(Speaking of triggering, I had to run around and around and interact/interact with Thor's glove before the cutscene kicked in.. )
__
I'm seriously considering taking it back and getting a refund. What a waste of money.
Those of you who haven't played the current-gen versions of the game, I don't blame you for probably thinking those of us raving about how much we like the game, are insane. Current gen version is NOTHING like the butchered heap that is the PS2 version.
It's such a shame. I love Ps3 Underworld, but this is an insult.
After the terrible day I've had and coming on to discover that Underworld on PS2 is nothing more than an intense flop with barely anything nice to say, they might as well not bother releasing it in the states now and I know that if I were to ever get my hands on it, I would have absolutely nothing nice to say. This is going to kill Lara's name even more and the fact it's up and beyond worst than not only the PS3/PC/360 version of Underworld, but the Wii version and Anniversary/Legend.
From what I've seen from screens posted here, absolutely negativity from this forum as well as others, it's bound to rot and be returned by US players who are gunna want the money for turning in a used game so they can have lunch money for a week of school. Might as well buy the PS3 version when I get one. Perfect way to say toodles to the PS2, really. Glad I waited all this time for nothing, makes sense why no one would ever tell me or anyone anything about it, it's embarrassing. :rolleyes:
D: good god, that is not a pretty game.
I already have this on the 360, but I was looking forward to getting it for the PS2 as well....
Well, atleast it'll save me some money for a better game.
I don't care if it's a port for the older consoles or not, this is just another example of them thinking they can slap Lara on it and it'll do well. Would it have killed them to actually have attempted to make it a decent game on the PS2?
Better game = more money.
Kittypower
24-01-09, 00:20
Actually despite the obvious difference in visuals, believe it or not I actually preferred the level design of Mexico so much more then the PS3 version. I found it more challenging, it had so many more platforming sections & it was like a labyrinth, I did have the classic feeling for a while.:D
I also had the classic feeling playing the beginning of the arctic level on the PS2 version as well. There's a whole section on the motorbike not featured in the next-gen versions. You ride the motorbike through icy caves over thin bridges encountering many long jumps across the mountain side. I'm sure it's the arctic concept art we've seen that was missing from the next-gen versions. The motorbike ride in the icy world was a lot of fun, again I preferred it to what we got in the next-gen versions in terms of level design, what a surprise!:D
So its not all bad:D
Well the wii version was extremely dissappointing, - I even bought an xbox the next weekend - I wonder if this one is better.
FullmetalEd
24-01-09, 00:45
I found some gameplay on youtube - the Ps2 version is so much better than the wii version! Why couldnt they have delayed the wii too ? I got an xbox just to play it because of how disappointing the wii version was.
Link please <3
I was thinking about getting this game for PS2.
im thinking about buying it... but its the only platform i have... well, ill buy it and then ill review it... ;)
thanks rivendell
No offence guys, but were you honestly expecting this to be anything approaching a solid videogame???
This is a watered down old gen version of a next gen game.... the bottomline is, that most of the real work was put into the PS3/360/PC next gen version...
Like ive said many times before, youre really not experiencing this game unless you go next gen.
While some of you might have money problems, as I can understand, you really should avoid the PS2 version and try to get yourself a new console somewhere down the line.... it'l be worth it...
Since my thread got closed due to this one already being open, I will repost my thoughts here.
Firstly, yes I've been Tomb Raiding for over a decade and yes I have Underworld for PS2 - And I'm sorry to say that I am terribly disappointed.
Gameplay is poor and graphics are terrible in comparison with the PS2 versions of Legend and Anniversary. I'm not sure why this is, but if its some sort of scam by CD to put people off the PS2 as far as TR is concerned and make them buy Xboxes and the like, well I think thats very unfair.
Now, I'm not one of the fans who are obsessed with the graphics and how it looks, etc ...but after playing Legend and Anniversary on PS2, its a really weird experience. Some of the graphics actually compare to the earlier games, particularly the underwater door in the 2nd level.
Gameplay tends to slow a bit at times, the camera is terrible, swimming is terrible and difficult to control. The controls themselves are very difficult to get the hang of, AND there is no sprint button. If anyone can tell me how to get Lara to sprint on PS2 then that would be great, but I don't think its possible.
While playing Underworld on ps2, you quickly start to wonder why CD bothered at all. I'm still glad they did, obviously, since it gives fans with no budget for an Xbox a chance to play, but they could have put SO much more effort in.
They managed to do an incredible job with Anniversary, so why not Underworld?
This fan base is so absurd. I can't believe what I read on this board from time to time.
First of all, the PS2 is TEN YEARS OLD. Do you know how fortunate you are that they are still making games for it?
OF COURSE the PS2 version is going to be worse than the current gen versions. Hmm, let's look at why. Like Jay said, it wasn't built on a PS2, it was built on an Xbox360, which is a far more powerful machine. In order to "dumb it down" for the PS2 system, things had to be adjusted or excised altogether. BIG SHOCK!
What do you people want? For them to create a PS2 Tomb Raider in 2008?
Either they port it and get skewered or don't offer it for PS2 and get skewered. No win.
I'm not sure why this is, but if its some sort of scam by CD to put people off the PS2 as far as TR is concerned and make them buy Xboxes and the like, well I think thats very unfair.
Unbelievable. CD has no stake in how the XBox360 does.
This fan base is so absurd. I can't believe what I read on this board from time to time.
First of all, the PS2 is TEN YEARS OLD. Do you know how fortunate you are that they are still making games for it?
OF COURSE the PS2 version is going to be worse than the current gen versions. Hmm, let's look at why. Like Jay said, it wasn't built on a PS2, it was built on an Xbox360, which is a far more powerful machine. In order to "dumb it down" for the PS2 system, things had to be adjusted or excised altogether. BIG SHOCK!
What do you people want? For them to create a PS2 Tomb Raider in 2008?
Either they port it and get skewered or don't offer it for PS2 and get skewered. No win.
Erm.... if you had read my post correctly you would see that I was referring to all PS2 versions of TR and comparing the PS2 version of Underworld to them.
Erm.... if you had read my post correctly you would see that I was referring to all PS2 versions of TR and comparing the PS2 version of Underworld to them.
I wasn't referring to you in my first post.
Shark_Blade
24-01-09, 03:25
This fan base is so absurd. I can't believe what I read on this board from time to time.
First of all, the PS2 is TEN YEARS OLD. Do you know how fortunate you are that they are still making games for it?
OF COURSE the PS2 version is going to be worse than the current gen versions. Hmm, let's look at why. Like Jay said, it wasn't built on a PS2, it was built on an Xbox360, which is a far more powerful machine. In order to "dumb it down" for the PS2 system, things had to be adjusted or excised altogether. BIG SHOCK!
What do you people want? For them to create a PS2 Tomb Raider in 2008?
Either they port it and get skewered or don't offer it for PS2 and get skewered. No win.
What the hell are you talking about?:confused: The PS2 is not 10 years old yet. Well, even with the dumb-ing down for PS2 like you said they make a terrible job of not polishing it up. The graphics could do with different textures than the lame gray wash out colors. The controls could be more tight like they used to be.
All in all, epic fail.
The PS2 still has plenty of life left, dunno what some people are on about, the PS2 still has plenty of games coming out.
But people shouldve expected if not already that the PS2 version wouldnt be as good as the next gen consoles.
What the hell are you talking about?:confused: The PS2 is not 10 years old yet. Well, even with the dumb-ing down for PS2 like you said they make a terrible job of not polishing it up. The graphics could do with different textures than the lame gray wash out colors. The controls could be more tight like they used to be.
All in all, epic fail.
It came out in March 1999.
Shark_Blade
24-01-09, 03:46
No, it was announced for development in March 1999. ;) And it was reelased a year later. But this is all just semantics.
Wiki is your friend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2
Seems as if I missed quite a lot, thanks so much for answering my questions KB, hope you're enjoying the game. :hug: :D :tmb:
But people shouldve expected if not already that the PS2 version wouldnt be as good as the next gen consoles.
I don't expect it to be as good as next gen console versions, but I DO expect it to be as good as the previous ps2 games - Legend and Anniversary. It is extremely poor in comparison.
I don't expect it to be as good as next gen console versions, but I DO expect it to be as good as the previous ps2 games - Legend and Anniversary. It is extremely poor in comparison.
Fair enough then.
I hope ps2 owners can still enjoy the game considering the disadvantages compared to next gen.
Ring_of_Fire
24-01-09, 05:56
Doesn't the PS2 version have less camera and movement bugs than X360/Wii/PS3 combined?
It's mind boggling how people (who already bought the current gen version) could go into an old gen version purchase expecting not to be disappointed. You all should have known what you were getting yourselves into after seeing the Wii screenshots/videos (same developers after all). Big waste of money in my opinion.
Perhaps the PS2 version was not up to par enough to handle even a lesser version of Underworld.
The Powers That Be (which I officially name Eidos/CD as a unit so I can just type PTB instead of typing Eidos/CD or "They" all the time) did not have to make a PS2 version. Making an old gen version was costly and it probably will not sell a grand amount. Whether the person who made that decision was someone thinking about the fans or only trying to sell more copies, even I think you should be grateful.
I have not played it. So if it is a glitchy mess, then my sympathies. But PTB went the extra mile to get those who do not own a Current-Gen console a Tomb Raider experience. It was thoughtful, whether it be the intention or not.
I do not expect anyone to shell out the cash for an XBOX et al just for Tomb Raider, so in before the "some of us are not made of gold" comments.
They took a big risk getting you what you wanted and sure, it may not have pleased you...
...but what ever happened to points for trying?
Btw, my next trip to Blockbuster, I'll rent a copy. I may still buy it but I don't really need three copies of Underworld. :p
Tomb of Legends
24-01-09, 08:27
So does PS2 have the Extra areas from Wii?
Like the waterwheel from under the manor?
mmm...cookies
24-01-09, 08:36
I posted a bunch of screen and some thoughts in this thread,
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=145128&page=6
dox online
24-01-09, 09:00
So does PS2 have the Extra areas from Wii?
Like the waterwheel from under the manor?
Doesn't have that area. I know.
PS: Doppelganger has a ponytail. :mad:
Tomb of Legends
24-01-09, 10:32
Im sorry I gotta say this,
Get over the Doppleganger thing. So what if she has a Ponytail!! Seriously!
Ward Dragon
24-01-09, 10:45
So what if she has a Ponytail!! Seriously!
Well I was disappointed when I saw that she didn't have a braid in the Wii version :o
But anyway, please try not to repeat yourself too much, dox online :)
Doesn't have that area. I know.
PS: Doppelganger has a ponytail. :mad:
Considering the Dopelganger had a ponytail in the Wii version which was made at the same time and by the same developer why would you have been expecting a braid? Why would they cut out the water section under the Manor?
the cutscenes are just fmv videos from the wii version and there is no 60hz option :(
the cutscenes are just fmv videos from the wii version and there is no 60hz option :(
OMG Legend for PS2 had a 60hz option! :(
Ward Dragon
24-01-09, 10:57
the cutscenes are just fmv videos from the wii version and there is no 60hz option :(
All of the cutscenes are? That's strange. If they were going to do that anyway, then why not make them all FMV's from the 360 version? :confused:
mmm...cookies
24-01-09, 11:01
All of the cutscenes are? That's strange. If they were going to do that anyway, then why not make them all FMV's from the 360 version? :confused:
So it had no noticable differences in GFX
i think the fmv graphics are better than the ps2's, and if you are wondering there are still no sharks on the first level.
Ward Dragon
24-01-09, 11:18
So it had no noticable differences in GFX
But the Wii version itself had two major cutscenes as FMV's from the 360/PC/PS3 version (presumably because those two cutscenes featured places that did not appear in gameplay and Buzz Monkey had no time to make the areas just for a cutscene). I figure if the cutscenes won't be in real time anyway, may as well have better graphics :p
mmm...cookies
24-01-09, 11:24
But the Wii version itself had two major cutscenes as FMV's from the 360/PC/PS3 version (presumably because those two cutscenes featured places that did not appear in gameplay and Buzz Monkey had no time to make the areas just for a cutscene). I figure if the cutscenes won't be in real time anyway, may as well have better graphics :p
I agree with you, i was just saying that's probably why tho
I just returned my copy, got a full refund. :)
mmm...cookies
24-01-09, 11:27
I just returned my copy, got a full refund. :)
Sadly RIV i think that's the best thing too do........could of been good
ajrich17901
24-01-09, 11:27
I just returned my copy, got a full refund. :)
Yay at least someone didnt stand for the watered down version.
Ward Dragon
24-01-09, 11:31
I agree with you, i was just saying that's probably why tho
Okay, I understand now. You're probably right :) I just realized that since the level layouts are different, maybe the cutscenes would look totally wrong taking place with a differently designed level in the background :p
I just returned my copy, got a full refund. :)
Wow, they let you do that? Around here they give me hell if I try to return a new game for a refund (exchanges only :rolleyes:). Good for you :tmb:
It's mind boggling how people (who already bought the current gen version) could go into an old gen version purchase expecting not to be disappointed. You all should have known what you were getting yourselves into after seeing the Wii screenshots/videos (same developers after all). Big waste of money in my opinion.
After completing the PS2 version I can honestly say I enjoyed it & wasn't disappointed. Maybe I enjoyed it because I had no expectation like I did with it's bigger brothers, the next-gen versions. I experienced no bugs or glitches & the camera overall was also actually better accept when Lara was underwater. Some of the sections in the PS2 are quite different to the PS3 version & in some cases I actually preferred the different level layouts & puzzles.
The PS2 version only has the same unlockables as the other versions & it also has Treasure Hunt mode for replay & no other modes. It doesn't actually have player tailoring but you can turn off hints, reticles etc.. plus you can't select any outfits during the game but a white wetsuite is unlocked once the game is completed. The other downsides are, it lack enemies( no bats, spiders or sharks), abrupt cutscenes & load screens, occasionally Lara's controls aren't responsive & in some places visually it's ropey.
Overall I was surprised that I enjoyed it as much as I did but then I do have the PS3 version as well & a lot of the enjoyment was in comparing the two. Some sections were cut but there also a lot of new sections added as well. Sure its not as polished as TRA or TRL but it has some nice moments visually too & the occasional better level design/maps in my opinion. I got it very cheaply & I personally don't regret buying it.:)
*laralover*
24-01-09, 12:48
Yeah i just got the PS2 version....Wow this is worse than AOD (i love AOD though) Just the controls and camera are awful :o The graphics are sadly not as good as TRL or TRA but i guese that makes sense with the Next Gen versions. I do like some of the differences in the levels though if only these blasted controls were more bearable gra. Might do what Riv did and take it back.
Is there Progressive Scan option?
tombraider123
24-01-09, 14:07
I would not say it's terrible, but I much prefer Legend and Anniversary. Should I upgrade, will I enjoy it more?
After completing the PS2 version I can honestly say I enjoyed it & wasn't disappointed. Maybe I enjoyed it because I had no expectation like I did with it's bigger brothers, the next-gen versions. I experienced no bugs or glitches & the camera overall was also actually better accept when Lara was underwater. Some of the sections in the PS2 are quite different to the PS3 version & in some cases I actually preferred the different level layouts & puzzles.
The PS2 version only has the same unlockables as the other versions & it also has Treasure Hunt mode for replay & no other modes. It doesn't actually have player tailoring but you can turn off hints, reticles etc.. plus you can't select any outfits during the game but a white wetsuite is unlocked once the game is completed. The other downsides are, it lack enemies( no bats, spiders or sharks), abrupt cutscenes & load screens, occasionally Lara's controls aren't responsive & in some places visually it's ropey.
Overall I was surprised that I enjoyed it as much as I did but then I do have the PS3 version as well & a lot of the enjoyment was in comparing the two. Some sections were cut but there also a lot of new sections added as well. Sure its not as polished as TRA or TRL but it has some nice moments visually too & the occasional better level design/maps in my opinion. I got it very cheaply & I personally don't regret buying it.:)
Thank you Kiss Bite, finally someone that agrees that this version isn't that awful as many people here think :hug:
Sucks for PS2 owners who get the game LATE and get a game worse than the previous PS2 games. :(
Hmm, these reviews seem quite negative. I dunno, without playing this version myself, I prefer to reserve judgement.
Shortened levels and/or revised areas were to be expected form the PS2, I think. It seems that maybe, some were only expecting the graphics to be different. I'm disappointed that some enemies are left out, and the camera isn't too good in places.
Thanks Kiss-bite for your review in particular as you seem to have put together something a bit more constructive.
My son has the 360 version, so we've been able to play TRU in all it's next-gen glory and enjoy it in the context it was meant. But before Christmas, I was relying on the PS2 version, so it's good to see these reviews for reference. I'm glad there is even a PS2 version out there to be honest.
Is there Progressive Scan option?
yes but no 60hz option
Candee Sparks
24-01-09, 16:39
You know what I don't understand? What I don't understand is why people are saying the PS2's days are numbered and that it's an aging system. What, you think that just because there are no good games in the upcoming line-up that it's dead? Do you really think your PS3 is that much superior over the PS2 when in reality all that's truly been improved in side-by-side comparison is the graphics?
I'm sorry but it's really lame that people are refusing to see outside the box with this and automatically assuming that the PS2 is obsolete now just because game designers decided they want prettier graphics so they went with the system that could do it. What's honestly changed besides the graphics and the extra features the next-gen system offers? Nothing. PS2 is still capable with wiping the floor with anything out there when it comes to gameplay, story, etc. (Except pretty graphics because you know, it makes a great game now apparently)
Were you honestly expecting a good solid video game from this?Did anyone possibly know what to expect from this? WE WEREN'T TOLD A THING ABOUT THIS VERSION, AT ALL, AT THE SLIGHTEST. The only thing we were told about this version is that 5 days before the launch it was being released in '09 and just this Wednesday when it was announced for the UK only release, that's it. I was expecting a good game considering it was Buzz Monkey I believe making this and if I'm not mistaken their the ones who took reigns for Anniversary, right? Everything I've seen from this all the way down to the footage my friend showed my via webcam makes this look about as bad as one of those games made for movies in theaters. Sorry that after waiting this long that we were expecting on par with Anniversary, maybe we should just be negative about everything from now on and bash every chance we get the opportunity since you know, we should expect anything good.
For those who say we were lucky to even get a PS2 version and we should be grateful, may I ask why? Has this not proven that they owe us nothing and we owe them nothing and that this is all just business? It wasn't a fan service, it was just a meal ticket so it's our choice to buy it or not. If you want it, congrats and go get it, if not then oh well. It's just heavily disappointing from the people saying 'what did you expect' or that the 'PS2 is not capable' (except for graphics), especially when you look at all the game series or singles that this system has carried like Final Fantasy (PROOF right there this system could handle Underworld), Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear Solid, Onimusha, God of War, GTA...the list goes on for hours.
Sad, but life is gunna go on. That's all.
(And I really don't care to hear any attempts for explanation, excused or means to start an argument if you quote me so you might as well not bother)
Sucks for PS2 owners who get the game LATE and get a game worse than the previous PS2 games. :(
Bingo.
Lara_Ultra_Fan
24-01-09, 17:18
The PS2 version is absolutely pathetic! Well, it's not that bad, but still, it's really bad for a PS2 game. I was hoping to change the settings to 60hertz so it wouldn't look so rough, but there is no option to, what is that all about? It's still very glitchy, (especially that weird grapple thing, when you use your grapple gun and the actuall gun is coming off her hand and she's not really holding it) but at least that lever/thailand glitch is gone.
And also, you know when you play Legend and Anniversary on the PS2, the controls are really smooth, right?(I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about)
Underworld's PS2 controls are so clunky, she runs really stiffly, and you can't do all does cool flips!!! NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
The controls are different to the PS3 version, (you can't sprint btw) instead of using the L2 nad R2 buttons to shoot and aim, it's like Legend and Ann. instead(yay!!) You press in the right analog stick to centre the camera instead of the left one(that makes sense, since you actually use the right analog to move the camera) and obviously that means you press in the left analog stick to use precise aim.
There are extra corridors in this version compared to the wii version (so far I've seen one in the prolouge level) and there are some corridors removed and replaced.
Anyway that's pretty much it, if there any other things needed to point out, I'll post them here.[I]
Also, I wanted to know if there is the Teaser trailer in the extras menu in the other versions, beacuse it is in this version.
Since my thread was closed, I will just put down what I wrote there over here.
There are also more things I would like to point out:
There are less treasures in this version compared to the wii version which is incredibly stupid btw (this is according to wii guides I've seen), you can't go to your boat in either thailand or the Med. sea. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but your PLS (the light Lara has) does not appear in the wii version but it appears in the PS2 version in the most pointless areas, the cutsecenes also look as if they have been recorded with a camera phone.:(
[I]I heard you couldn't choose outfits in the beginning of levels in the wii version, but when I finished the PS2 version (I finished it in one day, btw) it allowed you to choose them. Is this the case on the wii version?
There are extra corridors in this version compared to the wii version (so far I've seen one in the prolouge level)
:eek: There's more than even in the Wii version? WOW!
Anyway, you make a lot of valid points. I especially agree with your first statement, too.
It's strange isn't it, because I actually prefer the Mexico level design on the PS2 version & I found it more challenging then the PS3 version. I also loved the motorbike section at the beginning of the arctic section, it almost felt like playing the snowmobile in the classics. I felt there were more platform sections as well which I like especially in the Mexico tomb.
Of course visually it's a bit of a shock at first after playing the next-gen version but I found it quite charming after a while. I always feel that way about how the classic games look when I play them. I never experienced any bugs or glitches at all, I can't say the same for my next gen version where I've encountered many. It's better then I thought it would be although there are hardly no enemies in the game at all. I don't regret getting this version, it was very cheap, & It completes my PS2 TR collection & in another way Its made me appreciate the PS3 version more. I think It's nice to experience the same adventure in two different ways.:)
I love you.
Really, com' on! its not that bad! :(
You should see the water texture in the cutscene where Lara is on the boat ...it looks like TR1 water!
it looks like TR1 water!
:rolleyes:
Here we go.
People exagerating.
TR1 water has nothing looked like that water textures.
Raider_of_tombs
24-01-09, 18:54
Well... Having played the PS3 version, I thought I like Kiss-Bite, would get the PS2 version... while, no it's not as amazing as Legend nor Anniversary, Its not "bad" either...but its not "great".. It's OK!
A nice little trip for Lara once again... However, something I found dissapointing.
Well for one the controls.. what can I say? Slow... Unresposive... clunky... did I mention slow? I had the same Problem as Rivendell I spent about five minutes running up to the first of Thors Gauntlets smashing the interact button. Finally I managed to trigger the cutscene... But wait? What have they recorded them with? a spy camera? Nope, maybe a phone camera? but still they all look like they have different contrast and brightness settings... Oh well! still nice to see them!
So with the controls slow (tractor like anybody?) and the strange cutscene, I thought, I've got it now, may as well complete it! But my god! The sound is all back to front, upside-down, left and right and inside out! Well... not quite.. But there are loads of pieces missing and when the cutscene trigger the sound just cuts in like knife to a cake! MMmmm cake *drools*...
Anyway... still this is not exactly a massive issue... just a little niggle!
Now as for the revist location, ALL locations traps are reset! I havent gone far enough to see about the beasties yet, but presuamably they are :mis:
Why was it not like this in the next gen versions? *sigh*
Well... Having completed it I can say, no its not as epic - had to slip that is somewhere - as the bigger sibling version i.e. PS3, XBOX 360 or PC, take your pic, It was still kinda enjoyable... Maybe it's because I'm an old timmer to the TR games... I was only 7 when the first one came out, and man was that a good experience... but thats for another time! But anyway, it's just coz it's Lara... I'm not saying Eidos can slap lara on anything and I'll play it... but I can't quite put my finger on it... It wasn't great or bad!
A nice lil outing for Miss Croft! All in all!
Ok not as nice and Anniversary or Legend, where I have to admit I'm a fan of the pink outsits, But only because it's my favorite colour :D (and yes I'm gay, but shhh hehe).
But I digress and repreat myself! I am happy to own this though!
Thanks CD, BuzzMonkey, Nixxies and Eidos for a good game!
And thanks to you if you read all this! ;) :hug:
Yes, I agree, the cutscenes & load screens are very abrupt! Not a major issue though like you say.
Lara.Jolie7
24-01-09, 21:04
more then 5 hours playing!
Stop in John mayer level (something like that)
the firsts 2 levels is so damn buged and bad!!!
But then in thailand and amandas boat, the game become intersting
And I'm realy enjoying it
Isn't a great game
Will be nice when I got the chance to play in current gen graphics :D
more then 5 hours playing!
Stop in John mayer level (something like that)
the firsts 2 levels is so damn buged and bad!!!
But then in thailand and amandas boat, the game become intersting
And I'm realy enjoying it
Isn't a great game
Will be nice when I got the chance to play in current gen graphics :D
Thats an advantage with playing it on ps2 first, having got used to the older style graphics you basically would be moving up to better ones.
Only real difference from the look of it is the graphics and theyre pretty good.
I pretty much agree with Riv. I'm going to sell the game on eBay once I've completed it... it's awful.
TRhalloween
24-01-09, 22:49
TRU sucks on a 10 year old console! Obviously
Doppelgänger doesn't have a braid! Who cares...no wait. Never mind.
@Riv: You made valid points there. I understand that TRU wouldn't be as amazing as it was on the current-gen aka next-gen consoles. I think it's a sign that they need to move on to strictly 360, PS3, PC and *hesitates* Wii.
Aphrodite22
25-01-09, 00:07
can u aim two enemies at once? and
shoot while suspended from something?
wow, sounds terrible. i'm not getting it.
PS2 players really are in no position to complain. :rolleyes: You guys were lucky enough to even have the game come out on this system, which is way past its due date.
I'm still getting it, regardless of quality. I need those new areas.
Is it really BAD game for PS2 ??
I thought it was like Wii version, wasn't it ???
:confused:
mmm...cookies
25-01-09, 06:41
Check out the screenshots page and videos page for the PS2 version.....
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=145128
dox online
25-01-09, 11:20
can u aim two enemies at once? and
shoot while suspended from something?
Two at once, yes but not shoot while suspended.
l have a few questions, has any one finished the game and managed to get an alternate ending yet? Is the normal ending the same as the next gen ones? If you get all the treasures is it the same ending?
I've just started to play TRU on PS2 and I haven't found the bit where I can select the difficulty level - help?
Also, where do you quit, do you just turn it off wherever you are?:tea:
I've just started to play TRU on PS2 and I haven't found the bit where I can select the difficulty level - help?
It seems there isn't an option for Player Tailoring in the PS2 version.
That explains it then!:ton:
heey,,
I have a question about the game ;)
I don't know what to do...
somewhere in the beginning I have to pull the vertical stick down...
but I don't know what stick and how to pull it down :hea:
XX
If it's the switch at the end of the very first flaming corridor (next to the door), stand near it and press Triangle (interact). If it doesn't work, keep doing it, because that'll be the game's fault, not yours.
tombraider123
25-01-09, 14:32
After playing some of it again. I actually am really enjoying it now. The level with the giant Octopus is a bit of a mess IMO but now I am passed that it's getting rather good. I am in Thailand at the moment and it's a really nice level so far. I think the PS2 version will keep me going untill I upgrade to PS3/Xbox 360.
The only issue I do have is that it gets a bit laggy from time to time :(
Raider_of_tombs
25-01-09, 16:04
l have a few questions, has any one finished the game and managed to get an alternate ending yet? Is the normal ending the same as the next gen ones? If you get all the treasures is it the same ending?
Yep its the same ending. The point up until Lara and Amanda go through the portal is Wii/ps2 graphics and the back in Nepal it's the next gen version... No other ending sadly :(
Also When you're in Helheim after Lara blows the ice open you dont have to open the gate, Lara just swims straight into the scene with Natla and the faces :( Sad times.
Still an OK game though :)
Also When you're in Helheim after Lara blows the ice open you dont have to open the gate, Lara just swims straight into the scene with Natla and the faces :( Sad times.
Wha..?! No underwater gargantuan-statue-guarded highway? :eek:
Yep its the same ending. The point up until Lara and Amanda go through the portal is Wii/ps2 graphics and the back in Nepal it's the next gen version... No other ending sadly :(
Also When you're in Helheim after Lara blows the ice open you dont have to open the gate, Lara just swims straight into the scene with Natla and the faces :( Sad times.
Still an OK game though :)
Seriously?!
:eek:
My god - they really did butcher it - that's another thing in the wii version that's not in the PS2 version.
Without that, the last level must only last about 4 minutes!
Raider_of_tombs
25-01-09, 21:42
Wha..?! No underwater gargantuan-statue-guarded highway? :eek:
Sad to say, nope :( You see her swiming past the statues and straight into the castle area, and you dont even get the maze... cough, fart or sneeze and you're right into the cutscene with Natla.
Really does make me appreciate the next gen version much more!
And there are only two pillers to destroy at the end...
One calender to turn in mexico, and in valhala you dont get to climb the massive spinning thing, just turn a massive wheel at the bottom...
The more I think about it, the more I feel ripped off by it...
Sad times! :(
Sad to say, nope :( You see her swiming past the statues and straight into the castle area, and you dont even get the maze... cough, fart or sneeze and you're right into the cutscene with Natla.
Really does make me appreciate the next gen version much more!
And there are only two pillers to destroy at the end...
One calender to turn in mexico, and in valhala you dont get to climb the massive spinning thing, just turn a massive wheel at the bottom...
The more I think about it, the more I feel ripped off by it...
Sad times! :(
Only one? blimey even in the wii version there was two.
Sad to say, nope :( You see her swiming past the statues and straight into the castle area, and you dont even get the maze... cough, fart or sneeze and you're right into the cutscene with Natla.
Really does make me appreciate the next gen version much more!
And there are only two pillers to destroy at the end...
One calender to turn in mexico, and in valhala you dont get to climb the massive spinning thing, just turn a massive wheel at the bottom...
The more I think about it, the more I feel ripped off by it...
Sad times! :(
Wow, it's worse than I thought!! :yik: So glad I got a refund.
Raider_of_tombs
25-01-09, 22:09
Wow, it's worse than I thought!! :yik: So glad I got a refund.
I'm thinking of taking it back... but I didnt actually buy it.. my parents did... one plus side however is the mexico "Underworld" is a lot different, however there where a grand total of...
*drum roll*
4 enemies! lol
thats 2 tiger tralls and 2 skelly thralls! no giant spiders what so ever...
nathan.tay
25-01-09, 23:05
Im mildly enjoying the PS2 version, but from what u guys say its definitely making me want to get a PS3! But i have a few questions. Does a PS3 work on a non-HD TV? and which is the best one to get, i know there are ones with different memory, 80Gb ect? :confused: :confused:
Back to the game, im in the "Level 2: Mediterranean Sea, Part 3: The Norse Connection " bit and am stuck. On the PS3/Xbox walkthough it says to put the two blocks onto one of the pressure pads then stand on the other one yourself then move to the edge to grapple the gate, i cant seem to be able to do this as the camera doesnt move, as far on the edge i go she just grapples into the thing in the way. Can anyone help?? :hea::hea:
Shrantellatessa
25-01-09, 23:30
Im mildly enjoying the PS2 version, but from what u guys say its definitely making me want to get a PS3! But i have a few questions. Does a PS3 work on a non-HD TV? and which is the best one to get, i know there are ones with different memory, 80Gb ect? :confused: :confused:
Back to the game, im in the "Level 2: Mediterranean Sea, Part 3: The Norse Connection " bit and am stuck. On the PS3/Xbox walkthough it says to put the two blocks onto one of the pressure pads then stand on the other one yourself then move to the edge to grapple the gate, i cant seem to be able to do this as the camera doesnt move, as far on the edge i go she just grapples into the thing in the way. Can anyone help?? :hea::hea:
I had some trouble there too, so here's what I did:
Put the blocks on one of the plates, then go near the door, use the grapple, and go back to the edge of the other plate (the one with no blocks), while still holding the grapple (try not to touch the weird statues there withe thr grapple's rope), and press Triangle. (frenetically if you want). It worked for me :)
Good luck :wve:
mmm...cookies
26-01-09, 03:21
Yeh just grapple the gate first then walk on the other plate..
P.s it doesn't matter if the grapple hits the statues at all
Shrantellatessa
26-01-09, 14:13
^ Yup, I discovered that after I went to Mexico (the famous part where you need to make a whole in the floor).
nathan.tay
26-01-09, 15:04
Thanks for your help guys, im past that bit now. Im enjoying the game more now im in Thailand. :)
Lara_Ultra_Fan
26-01-09, 16:58
I heard in the wii version you couldn't dual target, but in the this one you can.
correct me if I'm wrong.
sandra croft
26-01-09, 17:06
Sad to say, nope :( You see her swiming past the statues and straight into the castle area, and you dont even get the maze... cough, fart or sneeze and you're right into the cutscene with Natla.
Really does make me appreciate the next gen version much more!
And there are only two pillers to destroy at the end...
One calender to turn in mexico, and in valhala you dont get to climb the massive spinning thing, just turn a massive wheel at the bottom...
The more I think about it, the more I feel ripped off by it...
Sad times! :(
The Artic sea does seems like a rippoff :yik:, but I don´t think just one calendar wheel is a big problem since I thought it was a bit repeative doing the same thing twice and for not climbing the massive tower well the PS2 version has longer bike section instead, but I think this has convinced me don´t to buy the game at least not at full price.
Well, I just got my UK copy (a pal bought it last friday and sent it by royal mail) and I have a few things to comment:
1.- People are exaggerating. The graphics are not bad at all. They are less detailed than Annyversary, but that's what you get when you design your assets for a superior console, then downgrade.
2.- If you adjust brightness and contrast properly, the game definitely looks way better. No gray blacks, no contrast blandness. Just set it up so the left-most stripe is pitch black and the right-most stripe is full white, and it looks much better than I've said in pictures and videos recorded.
3.- This is another CD-style TR game, no matter if things were cut down, stripped down, or left out, it's still a fun to play TR game which is different enough that justifies a nice play-through even though you've finished the current gen version. Lara reacts great, I was expecting it to be somewhat worse, but she's very well "steered".
4.- I hate this. I really hate this, 'cause it has ruined my experience completely: I may have missed it, but I think you can't invert the camera axes. Great, great. I'm now unable to play. I play with inverted axes since I can remember. Not including such a "basic" option is a complete mistake. I dunno what they were thinking about...
That's why I'm ****ed. I've liked what I've seen, but I can't enjoy it fully. I still have hope: may I've missed it... But, can you invert the camera axes? :(
nathan.tay
27-01-09, 10:32
i agree with you about this version. Its hardly likely to be as good as the next-gen version, personally im glad they made it for PS2 as I dont have a PS3 yet! At first the colours are a bit grey, but as you say once you change it, its fine.
Now all we need is an original Xbox port, and I'm set! :p
Yep its the same ending. The point up until Lara and Amanda go through the portal is Wii/ps2 graphics and the back in Nepal it's the next gen version... No other ending sadly :(
Also When you're in Helheim after Lara blows the ice open you dont have to open the gate, Lara just swims straight into the scene with Natla and the faces :( Sad times.
Still an OK game though :)
Wha..?! No underwater gargantuan-statue-guarded highway? :eek:
Having checked out all the cutscenes l did suspect that, but just wanted to actually hear it from someone who has played the game. The water part of the Manor was deleted as well and the Mediterranean ship has no possible swimming since you start on the ship. The game is not available in Australia till at least the 19th February possibly later, so l have to wait a while yet to play it. :(
Wow, it's worse than I thought!! :yik: So glad I got a refund.
My copy is currently at £18 on eBay... with 5 days to go. :D
hello,i have a question are there any bonus???
(sorry for my bad english)
The Great Chi
27-01-09, 19:08
Just a few questions on comparisons with the PS2 so far....
Should the cutscene in the manor end with zip shooting at her ?
Seems weird :confused: But if correct do not tell me why.
There are no sharks anywhere in the PS2 version, are they both outside in the water and inside the underwater structure, or just outside in other formats ? Are they any other underwater baddies other than glowing jellyfish?
After thumping the Underpus, sorry octopus on the head with the spiky platform, and it just dies :( Does it go on to fight lara with tenticles in other formats :D
Thats as far as I have got so far, but there wil be more comparison questions later I expect.
GOOD TIP for all PS2 version owners for a nice bright and colourfull screen.... At the start of the game, turn up the brightness by at least another one third of preset values, and adjust the contrast up to suit. The black bar on left shoud be very black, and the white bar on the right reasonably white.
Just a few questions on comparisons with the PS2 so far....
Should the cutscene in the manor end with zip shooting at her ?
Seems weird :confused: But if correct do not tell me why.
There are no sharks anywhere in the PS2 version, are they both outside in the water and inside the underwater structure, or just outside in other formats ? Are they any other underwater baddies other than glowing jellyfish?
After thumping the Underpus, sorry octopus on the head with the spiky platform, and it just dies :( Does it go on to fight lara with tenticles in other formats :D
Thats as far as I have got so far, but there wil be more comparison questions later I expect.
GOOD TIP for all PS2 version owners for a nice bright and colourfull screen.... At the start of the game, turn up the brightness by at least another one third of preset values, and adjust the contrast up to suit. The black bar on left shoud be very black, and the white bar on the right reasonably white.
yes.
no sharks in ps2 or wii version
no
I tried to just keep it very straightforward there!
The Great Chi
27-01-09, 19:57
I will rephrase a question again....
The sharks in the PC version, are they just in the outside water or also in the underwater buildings ?
Thats a pity about the octopus, I though it would go mad with the tenticles, what a dissapointment :p
touchthesky
27-01-09, 21:29
My copy is currently at £18 on eBay... with 5 days to go. :D
Awh, shucks. I want a copy of it but don't want to use ebay/spend over £15 on it.
You coulda saved me!
Awh, shucks. I want a copy of it but don't want to use ebay/spend over £15 on it.
You coulda saved me!
Sorry. :p It was at £5 yesterday, then jumped up to £18 really quickly. I'm not too bothered because it means I'll get most of my money back!
touchthesky
27-01-09, 21:43
You surely can't have hated it thhaat much lol? Do you have it on a next gen console as well?
You surely can't have hated it thhaat much lol? Do you have it on a next gen console as well?
I really, really did. :p The only reason I played through to the end is because it was TR. :o I've got it on 360, too. :)
The only reason I played through to the end is because it was TR. :o
Wow, fair play! I couldn't even do that. Didn't want to put myself through it! :p
Wow, fair play! I couldn't even do that. Didn't want to put myself through it! :p
Lmao. :D
I nearly threw the controller at the TV a number of times... trying to get Lara to jump on the hammers in Jan Mayen island was near impossible! It took me at least half an hour trying to make her jump onto one of them. And the last level is so disappointing... the level starts with a cutscene of Lara swimming right into the temple - the puzzle with the swords stuck in chains was completely cut out. I was really disappointed and angry because it was one of my favourite areas in the current gen version. :o
Lmao. :D
I nearly threw the controller at the TV a number of times... trying to get Lara to jump on the hammers in Jan Mayen island was near impossible! It took me at least half an hour trying to make her jump onto one of them. And the last level is so disappointing... the level starts with a cutscene of Lara swimming right into the temple - the puzzle with the swords stuck in chains was completely cut out. I was really disappointed and angry because it was one of my favourite areas in the current gen version. :o
Took me a day yes, an entire day to do the hammahs room on the wii!
Angelina Jolie
28-01-09, 04:38
Guys! I am so disappointed!!!!!!
Today I got the official guide of the game. And the "beta screens" are the actual wii, ps2 version!!!!!!!!
Can you simply believe that???!!! Jesus, that means they did the game for those old plataforms first, keep it in a box and started making it better ONLY for next gen consoles.
mmm...cookies
28-01-09, 04:40
Guys! I am so disappointed!!!!!!
Today I got the official guide of the game. And the "beta screens" are the actual wii, ps2 version!!!!!!!!
Can you simply believe that???!!! Jesus, that means they did the game for those old plataforms first, keep it in a box and started making it better ONLY for next gen consoles.
Did you get the prima guide???
Angelina Jolie
28-01-09, 04:50
Yes, I got the official guide from Best Buy, is there another one?
And I am so angry that they did that, its like to save time, you know, made the beta for the old, and then sell the new modified one for the next gen... Then just wait till people get impatient for the old gen, and release it saying that its a more worked version of the game... Excuse me C.D???
Y got it for xbox 360 and for ps2.
And ps2/wii are simply identical to the "beta images" on the guide.
mmm...cookies
28-01-09, 04:55
I think there is 2 diff guides....
What ya need to remember Crystal Dynamics didin't make the PS2 and Wii versions at all.
It was done by Buzz Monkey.........which was done at the same time.
Prima (guide company) may not have been allowed to take shots of the 360/PS3/PC versions......we will never know
Guys! I am so disappointed!!!!!!
Today I got the official guide of the game. And the "beta screens" are the actual wii, ps2 version!!!!!!!!
Can you simply believe that???!!! Jesus, that means they did the game for those old plataforms first, keep it in a box and started making it better ONLY for next gen consoles.
Yes, I got the official guide from Best Buy, is there another one?
And I am so angry that they did that, its like to save time, you know, made the beta for the old, and then sell the new modified one for the next gen... Then just wait till people get impatient for the old gen, and release it saying that its a more worked version of the game... Excuse me C.D???
Y got it for xbox 360 and for ps2.
And ps2/wii are simply identical to the "beta images" on the guide.
Not having the guide l am not sure what you mean, but the few sample pages l have show next gen screenshots and models. All games have beta versions, and the next gen games were started long before the Wii/PS2 games which were done by Buzz Monkey, not Crystal Dynamics/Nixxes. The Wii/PS2 versions were finished at around the same time as the next gen versions, so how are they more worked? Nothing is going to make a Wii or PS2 game look next gen since neither console is capable of next gen graphics
The next gen guide would be absolutely useless to the Wii or PS2 players, so presumably as mmm...cookies mentioned there would be 2 guides.
dox online
28-01-09, 07:35
Not having the guide l am not sure what you mean, but the few sample pages l have show next gen screenshots and models. All games have beta versions, and the next gen games were started long before the Wii/PS2 games which were done by Buzz Monkey, not Crystal Dynamics/Nixxes. The Wii/PS2 versions were finished at around the same time as the next gen versions, so how are they more worked? Nothing is going to make a Wii or PS2 game look next gen since neither console is capable of next gen graphics
The next gen guide would be absolutely useless to the Wii or PS2 players, so presumably as mmm...cookies mentioned there would be 2 guides.Three... One really short one.
GOOD TIP for all PS2 version owners for a nice bright and colourfull screen.... At the start of the game, turn up the brightness by at least another one third of preset values, and adjust the contrast up to suit. The black bar on left shoud be very black, and the white bar on the right reasonably white.I have been trying to say that for ages!
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