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tlr online
07-05-04, 13:42
Did you know Hotmail requires "cookies enabled" (and I mean totally enabled) before allowing account holders to check their mail?

".NET Passport stores cookies (small text files) on your computer that let you sign in to .NET Passport participating sites. For information about how to enable cookies, see the online help for your Web browser."

Which means if you're like me (with cookies disabled apart from allowed sites I manually validate (i.e. this forum... Yahoo! etc)) then I can't use the MS service, because it would appear their "participating sites" won't be able to plug up my browser with spyware!

What a crock, and a violation of my privacy! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-1.gif

groovy_nub
07-05-04, 14:07
Yeah, hotmail sucks!

I am trying to check my mail and it is telling me that the servers are busy, damn servers http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-1.gif

Hi TLR http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

~K http://www.tombraiderforums.com/forums/graemlins/cutie.gif

tlr online
07-05-04, 14:09
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

laracroft8290
07-05-04, 16:14
Can't you check hotmail via POP in Outlook? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif

[ 07. May 2004, 17:15: Message edited by: laracroft8290 ]

tlr online
07-05-04, 16:24
Nope. In Yahoo! you can, but not Hotmail!

vectra_sri
07-05-04, 18:34
Outlook Express

Screen Shot (http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/v175/vectra_sri/Screen%20Shots/Hotmail_1.jpg)

[ 07. May 2004, 19:40: Message edited by: Vectra Sri ]

Neteru
07-05-04, 19:03
You can pick up hotmail in OE, I do it all the time. You still have to accept cookies.

tlr, you have to accept cookies with any web based mail account, I'm sure you know that! - and any online account you sign into (this forum an example).

tlr online
07-05-04, 19:09
Neteru. Indeed. But with Yahoo! you can elect to accept cookies with the yahoo.com domain attached and this will work fine. Hotmail requires you to enable ALL cookies (entering hotmail.com or passport.net will not do) thus filling up your browser cache with a bunch of cookies and data miners from all and saundry.

Neteru
07-05-04, 19:18
Ah I see what you mean now - I was a bit perplexed by what you said. Yes, it's true you have to accept all that ****, and I agree with you. It really annoys me.

Neteru
07-05-04, 19:20
BTW, do you know that MSN Messenger can subvert your cookie control? If you have cookies set to prompt - MSN Messenger just ignores that and puts a cookie on your system anyway!

tlr online
07-05-04, 19:21
Really? Didn't know that! Time to uninstall MSN then.

laracroft8290
07-05-04, 20:46
Oh for goodness sake...c00kies are c00kies. You can't really get hurt by them IMO. Dump them every now and then.

tlr online
07-05-04, 20:52
A cookie has no right of way on my PC. Evil cookies... burn them at the stake! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/violent.gif

laracroft8290
07-05-04, 20:55
i like not having to login everywhere...most of those cookies come from advertisements which of course have no right to be on a hdd.

TheEveningStar
07-05-04, 20:58
all I do is that when I'm ready to turn off my computer, I do a web cleanup, that is a service my firewall has. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

tlr online
07-05-04, 21:01
Indeed. Login cookies are FRIENDLY (http://www.slinkycity.com/funny-definitions.html) cookies. I'm talking about the EVIL (http://www.fishtank.org.uk/humour/humour.php3?articleid=47) cookies that laden a PC with beacons that PHONE (http://www.ahajokes.com/off06.html) home!

laracroft8290
07-05-04, 21:01
or if you're really paranoid you could use Evidence Eliminator which cleans all the internet data then writes the area to make sure the data is completely erased http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/bash.gif

laracroft8290
07-05-04, 21:03
Originally posted by tlr online:
Indeed. Login cookies are FRIENDLY (http://www.slinkycity.com/funny-definitions.html) cookies. I'm talking about the EVIL (http://www.fishtank.org.uk/humour/humour.php3?articleid=47) cookies that laden a PC with beacons that PHONE (http://www.ahajokes.com/off06.html) home!If you have a decent software firewall and router you can monitor what is transferred to and from your computer.

tlr online
07-05-04, 21:05
A properly configured WINDOWS (http://www.iwca.org) operating system requires no need for a FIREWALL (http://www.durex.com)

Red_Rain
07-05-04, 21:06
Nasty little cookies I hate them too http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/violent.gif

laracroft8290
07-05-04, 21:07
Durex? Is that your preferred choice?

tlr online
07-05-04, 21:09
Red Rain. Welcome aboard! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif AARON.... (http://www.marloscrochetcorner.com/ribbed%20slipper.html) http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif

TheEveningStar
07-05-04, 21:12
Originally posted by tlr online:
A properly configured WINDOWS (http://www.iwca.org) operating system requires no need for a FIREWALL (http://www.durex.com)tlr, when I clicked the link that reads FIREWALL, my firewall said it was blocked, categorized as: "Sex Education/Advanced" http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

Red_Rain
07-05-04, 22:35
Originally posted by TheEveningStar:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by tlr online:
A properly configured WINDOWS (http://www.iwca.org) operating system requires no need for a FIREWALL (http://www.durex.com)tlr, when I clicked the link that reads FIREWALL, my firewall said it was blocked, categorized as: "Sex Education/Advanced" http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Seems like you have got a good Firewall then http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

RobBo
07-05-04, 23:21
Originally posted by tlr online:
A cookie has no right of way on my PC. Evil cookies... burn them at the stake! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/violent.gif (Without Predjudice)

I strongly suspect that my recent virus attack came through MSN Hotmail. Investigations are under way.

Neteru
07-05-04, 23:25
Originally posted by laracroft8290:
Oh for goodness sake...c00kies are c00kies. You can't really get hurt by them IMO. Dump them every now and then.Cookies are spying little *******s, especially when combined with web bugs.

SpArKy
08-05-04, 17:30
I have my hotmail delivered to my Outook or summing!

Via that pop thing dont ask me how but i do, each time i open that programme, it retries my mail....cool!

Draco
08-05-04, 22:01
I have never had problems with MSN or Hotmail...

ActiveX controls are what you have to watch out for, cookies are just ID cards...

Neteru
09-05-04, 00:08
They are more than just ID cards, they can be (and are) used to track your surfing habits, thus invading your privacy.

Draco
09-05-04, 11:05
ID cards do the same thing...

You cant hold a job without someone knowing what you do with the money for long.