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LittleDragonZ
27-03-09, 22:06
http://kotaku.com/5186851/square-enix-eidos-takeover-is-go
Offered 120 million dollars and accepted. That's over 100% of what they (Eidos) had, I believe.
This was the news beforehand:
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/208851/square-trying-to-buy-eidos/
How do you get "over 100%" of anything?
LittleDragonZ
27-03-09, 22:27
Well it says so in the second link. I guess it's over double of what they had.
Well guess that's that, Square owns Lara now.
Btw it would be some funny karma if Core developers were re-hired and Eidos itself didn't have a say in it.
Eddie Haskell
27-03-09, 23:57
Well guess that's that, Square owns Lara now.
Btw it would be some funny karma if Core developers were re-hired and Eidos itself didn't have a say in it.
Picture that first Tomb Raider meeting for all parties. Can you say awkward? :p
*pictures a very buggy AOD2* :cln:
Well perhaps that's harsh. Could be fine.
RockSteady101
28-03-09, 00:47
http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/160/2/6/Tomb_Raider__Chibi_Lara_by_Nacrym.jpg
K/o :p
Is it just me who's deeply saddenned by this? Tomb Raiders' real history is now, totally and completely...gone.
CORE are out of the picture and now they have been (technically) joined by Eidos, Lara has been adopted. It's quite an eerie thought, eh? :(
K/o :p
Is it just me who's deeply saddenned by this? Tomb Raiders' real history is now, totally and completely...gone.
CORE are out of the picture and now they have been (technically) joined by Eidos, Lara has been adopted. It's quite an eerie thought, eh? :(
I can see how you'd feel that way.
I personally am indifferent about it. I was obsessed with the series up until Last Revelation really. Now I've just been following it.
How do you get "over 100%" of anything?
They paid more than what Eidos is worth.
They paid more than what Eidos is worth.
:tmb: Thatīs so truth.
Thanks to Eidos TR was born, and thanks to Eidos, TR is about to die, Square Enix is the one to save the series!
:tmb: Thatīs so truth.
Thanks to Eidos TR was born, and thanks to Eidos, TR is about to die, Square Enix is the one to save the series!
wrong,
Thanks to Core TR was born, and thanks to Eidos, TR became a franchise, then died, then was reborn :D
Squidix? Is that a joke?
lol
I guess so. :p
interstellardave
28-03-09, 02:52
I can see how you'd feel that way.
I personally am indifferent about it. I was obsessed with the series up until Last Revelation really. Now I've just been following it.
I lost the obsession after TR3 (to me the last truly great TR game). 1/3 of the way through AOD I lost the passion... since then it's been just a flirtation; I can't get the passion, let alone the obsession, back.
Eddie Haskell
28-03-09, 03:06
I lost the obsession after TR3 (to me the last truly great TR game). 1/3 of the way through AOD I lost the passion... since then it's been just a flirtation; I can't get the passion, let alone the obsession, back.
I totally agree with you. Although I did find merit in TRLR through AoD, the real great games that captivated me were the first 3. After I finished (labored through a bit actually) the Last Revelation, I wondered if the game had run its course. Never imagined that it would still be around today, in any form.
tranniversary119
28-03-09, 03:07
If they're paying the amount of money they are to buy [EIDOS] I'm sure there's a real good reason behind this, obviously expanding there games but perhaps they have some ideas for Tomb Raider that will help the franchise get back on top again :jmp: We will see! Bring on TRIX!
How do you get "over 100%" of anything?
One bag of flour = 100%
One and a half bag of flour = 150% of the original bag of flour
Is it just me who's deeply saddenned by this? Tomb Raiders' real history is now, totally and completely...gone.
Welcome to 2006, get used to it. :wve:
ajrich17901
28-03-09, 08:49
Welcome to 2006, get used to it. :wve:
Exactly:)
Is this a good thing???
Do we want Squidix to publish Tomb Raider???
So it's finally become a reality?
About time too. Good riddance to poisonous, cash obsessed rubbish. I hope Eidos burns in silicone hell for their crimes against videogames.
LittleDragonZ
28-03-09, 12:45
Well Square and Eidos have worked together for over 10 years I believe. Eidos helped with FF7's and 8's PC releases.
I don't know if Square-Enix is going to hire all their (Eidos) staff, or few, or even none. But they could end up just letting Crystal Dynamics be part, but would just give them the go ahead and help support the franchises with their higher cash flow.
It's just a scary time really, but I don't think they will do much to Lara's image or the core essentials. But who knows...
Is this a good thing???
Do we want Squidix to publish Tomb Raider???
Right now, I'd be happy for anyone publish the franchise.
Right now, I'd be happy for anyone publish the franchise.
Agree. :)
AmericanAssassin
28-03-09, 17:07
I'm actually kind of excited about the SE takeover. :) I get the feeling that the true Lara Croft could be making a comeback in a nice, lengthy game...
TRhalloween
28-03-09, 17:24
So it's finally become a reality?
About time too. Good riddance to poisonous, cash obsessed rubbish. I hope Eidos burns in silicone hell for their crimes against videogames.
My God, they're not that bad.
They rushed some games and now you want them to rot in Hell? EIDOS employees are real people who have families and lives, they're not deliberately ****ing you off by rushing some games.
I can't believe how some people can act. What has EIDOS actually done? Robbed your houses? Beaten you with a mace? Insulted your mothers?
ajrich17901
28-03-09, 17:26
My God, they're not that bad.
They rushed some games and now you want them to rot in Hell? EIDOS employees are real people who have families and lives, they're not deliberately ****ing you off by rushing some games.
I can't believe how some people can act. What has EIDOS actually done? Robbed your houses? Beaten you with a mace? Insulted your mothers?
Nope, they just like to steal peoples money for half asses games.
And fire people who had nothing to do with the failure of TR and make tons of people go out of work. Yea i think i said enough Bye Eido$!
AmericanAssassin
28-03-09, 17:29
I can't believe how some people can act. What has EIDOS actually done? Robbed your houses? Beaten you with a mace? Insulted your mothers?
No, but they single handedly turned one of the most popular video game series in the world into a joke for the general public. For that, I will never like Eido$, nor will I feel that they deserve any ounce of respect. ;)
It had nothing to do with what Core did to AOD, it's what Eido$ did to AOD. :mad:
I'm glad SE took over the franchise. The Japanese always do it better anyways ;)
Longer games...in depth, engaging storylines...
as long as they don't make it a turn based TR I'll be happy :D
ajrich17901
28-03-09, 17:37
I'm glad SE took over the franchise. The Japanese always do it better anyways ;)
Longer games...in depth, engaging storylines...
as long as they don't make it a turn based TR I'll be happy :D
Gotta say i agree i always prefered games from japan cuz i knew they'd be amazing. And with the story always being the no.1 thing about the game.
It had nothing to do with what Core did to AOD, it's what Eido$ did to AOD. :mad:
Exactly it was eido$'s fault it bombed they rushed it out to make a quck buck.
Legend of Lara
28-03-09, 17:38
Ah, Squeenix. Great, graceful, gracious Squeenix. Squeenix actually have quality standards. :D
Immortalis08
28-03-09, 19:10
I'm cautiously optimistic about this takeover. Hopefully Square Enix is well versed in the state Tomb Raider is in.
No, but they single handedly turned one of the most popular video game series in the world into a joke for the general public. For that, I will never like Eido$, nor will I feel that they deserve any ounce of respect. ;)
It had nothing to do with what Core did to AOD, it's what Eido$ did to AOD. :mad:
Gotta say i agree i always prefered games from japan cuz i knew they'd be amazing. And with the story always being the no.1 thing about the game.
Exactly it was eido$'s fault it bombed they rushed it out to make a quck buck.
Eido's had the most to blame in these situations. However, don't forget that Sony was involved in changing the control scheme which required more time and left AOD with more bugs.
ajrich17901
28-03-09, 19:12
Eido's had the most to blame in these situations. However, don't forget that Sony was involved in changing the control scheme which required more time and left AOD with more bugs.
Ok that i didnt know i thought core was the ones who changed the control scheme at the last minute. But still i didnt have any probs with the controls nothing to bad anyway.
Immortalis08
28-03-09, 19:16
Ok that i didnt know i thought core was the ones who changed the control scheme at the last minute. But still i didnt have any probs with the controls nothing to bad anyway.
I agree the controls weren't that bad but they took time to get used to. At least for me.
It was both Sony and Core's fault. To the best of my recollection Sony didn't approve of the previous control scheme since it was almost the same as the classics. So Core had to make the new control scheme which we have come to love/hate and since they focused time on that, it was more buggy.
Aside from that aspect, to Sony's credit almost the entire board decided that the game should not be released at all in its current state. However Eidos kept pushing and pushing and that as they say was that.
ajrich17901
28-03-09, 20:31
I agree the controls weren't that bad but they took time to get used to. At least for me.
It was both Sony and Core's fault. To the best of my recollection Sony didn't approve of the previous control scheme since it was almost the same as the classics. So Core had to make the new control scheme which we have come to love/hate and since they focused time on that, it was more buggy.
Aside from that aspect, to Sony's credit almost the entire board decided that the game should not be released at all in its current state. However Eidos kept pushing and pushing and that as they say was that.
Argh well i wish sony would have told em right out if they didnt improve the game they wouldnt want it on there system, makes sony look bad.
I'm glad SE took over the franchise. The Japanese always do it better anyways ;)
Longer games...in depth, engaging storylines...Sounds like you have not played many JP games this generation :)
TRhalloween
28-03-09, 23:45
Nope, they just like to steal peoples money for half asses games.
And fire people who had nothing to do with the failure of TR and make tons of people go out of work. Yea i think i said enough Bye Eido$!
No, but they single handedly turned one of the most popular video game series in the world into a joke for the general public. For that, I will never like Eido$, nor will I feel that they deserve any ounce of respect. ;)
It had nothing to do with what Core did to AOD, it's what Eido$ did to AOD. :mad:
Um, let's go back to 2003 when replacing letters with currency symbols was slightly funny.
1.Tomb Raider was always a joke, mostly due to Lara's sex appeal (Though that was mostly due to the douche-bags who made the jokes :pi:)
2.EIDOS created Tomb Raider. They didn't just ruin it.
Also, I feel we are giving Square Enix too much credit when they haven't actually done anything with Tomb Raider.
da tomb raider!
28-03-09, 23:55
Um, let's go back to 2003 when replacing letters with currency symbols was slightly funny.
1.Tomb Raider was always a joke, mostly due to Lara's sex appeal (Though that was mostly due to the douche-bags who made the jokes :pi:)
2.EIDOS created Tomb Raider. They didn't just ruin it.
Also, I feel we are giving Square Enix too much credit when they haven't actually done anything with Tomb Raider.
Just so you know, Eidos merely published Tomb Raider. I don't believe they had any input on the development of the game, and anybody else could've published it. Maybe Core Design would've done it themselves if they were still independant when they completed Tomb Raider (they published some of their games before).
This thread is turning into a post mortem of Eidos. Interesting to see how everything has achieved a new significance now Eidos' name is practically finished.
Sounds like you have not played many JP games this generation :)
Sounds like you haven't played Metal Gear Solid 4 or Resident Evil 5 or Street Fighter 4 or Devil May Cry 4 or Okami or Lost Planet...
Sounds like you haven't played Metal Gear Solid 4 or Resident Evil 5 or Street Fighter 4 or Devil May Cry 4 or Okami or Lost Planet...Okami - PS2 = last generation
Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, Devil May Cry 4, Lost Planet - those games are great and stuff, but engaging storyline? longer game? are you kidding me?
Capcom is pretty much western developer these days. Not saying thats bad...
I'm glad SE took over the franchise. The Japanese always do it better anyways ;)
Longer games...in depth, engaging storylines...
as long as they don't make it a turn based TR I'll be happy :D
they do the squere enix even went as far as making four disc's to their final fantasy games ..back when they where squere soft (i think thats what they were called)
Okami - PS2 = last generation
Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, Devil May Cry 4, Lost Planet - those games are great and stuff, but engaging storyline? longer game? are you kidding me?
Capcom is pretty much western developer these days. Not saying thats bad...
It's not a matter of nationality, it's a matter of competence, we all know that Square Enix are much more about story and art than everything else. And they still make great gameplay.
Immortalis08
29-03-09, 17:14
they do the squere enix even went as far as making four disc's to their final fantasy games ..back when they where squere soft (i think thats what they were called)
Four discs because one disc wasn't a dvd so it couldn't hold as much capacity compared to DVD-roms. The games were lengthy but they could probably fit that into one disc now.
Well It's sad that eidos no longer earns TR so now I wonder how TR9 will look like with Square Enix owning it now. It could be sucky. We'll just hefta wait n see.
Just saw this comment on GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6206933.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;8)
Year 2030: Square-Enix-Eidos-EA-Global has delayed the release of Final Fantasy XXIV to incorporate a Madden style, archeological platform minigame into the series. Shareholders were concerned the game 'spreads itself too thin' both financially and artistically , but gamers were sure that robbing a tomb with a football that has a magic rating of 255 will only return the series to its early FFX days.
:vlol:
Legend of Lara
29-03-09, 21:07
Well It's sad that eidos no longer earns TR so now I wonder how TR9 will look like with Square Enix owning it now. It could be sucky. We'll just hefta wait n see.
Idios still own TR. But Square-Enix will pwn (har har har) Idios in a few months.
And, seriously, could it get any suckier? :p
Eidos owns Tomb Raider until April 21st. :jmp:
It's not a matter of nationality, it's a matter of competence, we all know that Square Enix are much more about story and art than everything else. And they still make great gameplay.They do not seem that great this generation of consoles... ;)
interstellardave
30-03-09, 12:01
It's not a matter of nationality, it's a matter of competence, we all know that Square Enix are much more about story and art than everything else. And they still make great gameplay.
Their so-called greatest game, FF7, bored me to tears. Five hours in--after actually playing for a grand total of perhaps 2 hours, it seemed--I was done with it. And that 2 hours of gameplay was mostly random encounters that popped up out of nowhere... they're telling me that I move 1/2 inch on the main map and couldn't have seen that something was there ahead of time?
Wild Arms, released at about the same time, kicked FF7's butt IMO.
They do not seem that great this generation of consoles... ;)
Wait until FFXIII. ;)
Wait until FFXIII. ;)
BTW, they announced today that they have finished work on the story, and the graphics are 80% finished, as well.
They are currently working on fixing the bugs on the "action time battle" or something like that :D
Wait until FFXIII. ;)Final Fantasy XIII is going to be released early 2010 in PAL (if we are lucky) - Xbox 360 launched late 2005 and PS3 launched late 2006 / early 2007...
They do not seem that great this generation of consoles... ;)
What do you mean by "great"?
What do you mean by "great"?Releasing great games...
BTW, they announced today that they have finished work on the story, and the graphics are 80% finished, as well.
They are currently working on fixing the bugs on the "action time battle" or something like that :D
That's great! After the disappointment of FFXII, I'm steadily being won over by FFXIII already. :tmb:
Final Fantasy XIII is going to be released early 2010 in PAL (if we are lucky) - Xbox 360 launched late 2005 and PS3 launched late 2006 / early 2007...
That's not bad at all really. FFXII had to be finished for the PS2, the FFVII compilation continues apace and all the while FFXIII has something like 3 titles being simultaneously developed for the PS3/PSP. I'd rather Square Enix took their time rather than rushed their developments. Hence why I'm happy TR is now in their hands. :)
Releasing great games...
Please fasten your seat belts. Final Fantasy XIII is coming, then Final Fantasy Versus XIII (which are one of the most waited games over the next years), then the remake of Final Fantasy VII is probably the next project (which will probably be the most popular game of all time if it's released and done properly), after those two big productions.
Kingdom Hearts III is rumored to be shown next week as well (there's a big demand for the next game)... So you have a pretty good line-up for the next 5-8 years (if we include FFVII remake).
Now, that they bought Eidos, there will be Batman: Arkham Asylum, Just Cause 2, Hitman 5, Tomb Raider IX, Deus Ex 3, Thief V (is it 4 or 5?), and probably Legacy Of Kain as well as Soul Reaver.
I think it's a pretty healthy line-up, and they'll be really comfortable for the years to come. They don't even have to worry about their bank accounts...
So what does this exactly mean? Will they change VA's? Will they get rid of some of the developers? Will there be an extreme eastern influence in the future games? I wouldnt mind the influence, in my opinion they can tell some creative stories that will actually make you feel for the character.
Releasing great games...
I'm just curious what's your definition of a great game...because in my opinion they already released plenty of "great" games.
If by "great" you are referring to technological and graphical aspects then yes,i agree that so far we haven't seen many advanced Japanese games (with exceptions like MGS4,RE5 and a couple more).
But graphics are not the most important thing to make a good game...I could easily write a big enough list of current-gen Japanese games that are generally considered as great and have very good scores but not the high-end graphics of a FPS.
And besides, there's also this thing called artistic vision which the Japanese have aplenty and it shows even in low-res games for the DS.;)
I'm just curious what's your definition of a great game...because in my opinion they already released plenty of "great" games.
If by "great" you are referring to technological and graphical aspects then yes,i agree that so far we haven't seen many advanced Japanese games (with exceptions like MGS4,RE5 and a couple more).We were talking about S-E...
We were talking about S-E...
Really?
Sounds like you have not played many JP games this generation :)
Their so-called greatest game, FF7, bored me to tears. Five hours in--after actually playing for a grand total of perhaps 2 hours, it seemed--I was done with it. And that 2 hours of gameplay was mostly random encounters that popped up out of nowhere... they're telling me that I move 1/2 inch on the main map and couldn't have seen that something was there ahead of time?
Wild Arms, released at about the same time, kicked FF7's butt IMO.
You know what? I agree, I find the FF series extremely boring, but I can't deny that it's a great game, I can't deny SE always nail it, most of their FF games are very well received by both the critics and the fans. I can't deny they give the developers what is necessary to make a great game, and that's why I'm happy they bought Eidos.
They do not seem that great this generation of consoles... ;)
Neither does Eidos, nor WB.
Really?Really.It's not a matter of nationality, it's a matter of competence, we all know that Square Enix are much more about story and art than everything else. And they still make great gameplay.
Neither does Eidos, nor WB.They did release some games (in fact, they did release some good games ... and some bad games too)
Really.
Sir Croft's post came after the one you said that "there are no great JP games this generation".
But yeah.whatever.
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