View Full Version : Sony to make major announcement March 31
http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3296
Lots of interesting speculation.
Larson_1988
30-03-09, 00:28
That is interesting. I'm hoping for backwardscompatibility for PS2 titles on the 40 GB PS3. Thanks for posting. :)
A lot of people on that site are suggesting a price cut?
I'm not sure at all, I've never been an avid console speculator compared to many others here but I increasingly get the feeling PS3's future won't be a good one. Too many ominous signs are showing for my liking and as a consequence, I don't think the 'major' announcement will be all for postive reasons.
"We give up!" *discontinues manufacturing and support*
:pi:
"Uncharted will be ported to the 360."
:D
AmericanAssassin
30-03-09, 01:05
"Uncharted will be ported to the 360." :D
I would die.
"Uncharted will be ported to the 360."
:D
And MGS4 ^^
"PS3 now comes in Pink. Because Pink is the new Black Piano."
I don't know, but I see a stupid and not so important announcement coming.
"We're taking the vibration out of the dualshock 4"
the PS4! LOL
http://i42.tinypic.com/2iauzd1.jpg
Ward Dragon
30-03-09, 04:22
I wonder what it's going to be (and why they would announce that they're going to make an announcement, thereby hyping it up for disappointment if it's not a price drop :p).
ajrich17901
30-03-09, 04:27
"Uncharted will be ported to the 360."
:D
360 cant handle uncharted:p
More then likely its gonna be a price drop announcement because if it's anything else people aint gonna realy care.
Los Angeles
30-03-09, 04:42
"Uncharted will be ported to the 360."
:D
My dreams would come true. :o
Shark_Blade
30-03-09, 06:43
Price drop likely.
scoopy_loopy
30-03-09, 07:41
The ps3 emits an electronic frequency that will cause brain cancer in people within a 50 km radius of each machine.
Orionvalentine
30-03-09, 09:38
The ps3 emits an electronic frequency that will cause brain cancer in people within a 50 km radius of each machine.
:yik: Horrible much?
(And quite scarily feasible :p)
EgyptianSoul
30-03-09, 09:52
Some people are speculating that this is an April Fool's Day prank. :cool:
Orionvalentine
30-03-09, 10:14
Some people are speculating that this is an April Fool's Day prank. :cool:
AHA! It might well be. I never thought of that :cln:
I think the PS3's price tag will be dropped, so the console war will see the PS3 start winning. PS3 Rules lol.
We're due a PS3 price cut. That's what my money's on - there've been rumours flying around for a few weeks now.
It's probably a PS2 price cut but a PS3 price cut would be sweet though. I know quite a few people who want one but the price is just too high for them.
It's probably a PS2 price cut but a PS3 price cut would be sweet though. I know quite a few people who want one but the price is just too high for them.
They still sell PS2s??!
Actually, they're still selling more PS2s than PS3s AFAIK. :yik:
Actually, they're still selling more PS2s than PS3s AFAIK. :yik:
Not any more:
http://i43.tinypic.com/fvy1ao.png
That is interesting. I'm hoping for backwardscompatibility for PS2 titles on the 40 GB PS3. Thanks for posting. :)
:tmb:
Ahh I'm behind the times on some things aren't I? Just prooves I'm not the best person to analyse. However, that graph still doesn't make good reading, it looks like apart from Christmas, sales have flat lined on all fronts and the only reason the PS3 is selling more than the PS2 is because the PS2 is selling less as opposed to the reason being that PS3 sales have increased.
jamieoliver22
30-03-09, 13:02
"Uncharted will be ported to the PC."
Fixed :p
And LittleBigPlanet on the PC would be awesome too.. :(
george_croft
30-03-09, 13:12
I'm hoping for the PS2 backwards compatibility. :)
About the mysterious announcement ? I don't expect anything really big TBH.
And LittleBigPlanet on the PC would be awesome too.. :(
Lol. I'm laughing because it's actually already happening as the developpers are already working on a PC version of LBP actually. Nothing's sure, definitive and officially announced for the moment as the first results doesn't meet their expectations yet so they still can cancel the project but we might have the chance to see it on PC as well. Fingers crossed. ;)
jamieoliver22
30-03-09, 13:16
About the mysterious announcement ? I don't expect anything really big TBH.
Lol. I'm laughing because it's actually already happening as the developpers are already working on a PC version of LBP actually. Nothing's sure, definitive and officially announced for the moment as the first results doesn't meet their expectations yet so they still can cancel the project but we might have the chance to see it on PC as well. Fingers crossed. ;)
Oh, really? Didn't know anything about that - it would be awesome if it finally does.
Oh, really? Didn't know anything about that - it would be awesome if it finally does.
Indeed. I really hope we'll have it. The game seems very amazing and entertaining. :)
Where do you get your (rumors) news from Alex? :pi:
This information has been revealed mid-March to Gamasutra by Alex Evans - the co-founder of Media Molecule - in an interview and it has popped on one of the gaming websites that I visit regularly. :)
It's not a rumor or a news it's a just project non-unveiled they are working on that might go nowhere. I have been tempted to create a thread about it but since the project might be canned I decided to let it in a corner of my mind. ;)
Well, I'd certainly be willing to give this "LBP" game a try if it does get released. :tmb:
da tomb raider!
30-03-09, 15:58
I hope it's a price cut for the PS3. I've already got mine, but given it's expensive price, most don't. A price cut could change this, and than more people who own a PS3, the better.
I still fail to see why some want the PS3 to have backwards compatibility for PS2 games. What's wrong with poor old PS2? :p
And about a LittleBigPlanet game coming to PC, don't Sony own the franchise? If so, isn't it impossible for Media Molecule to release a LBP game on a non-Sony format?
If it is a price cut, I'd definitely buy one.
toxicraider
30-03-09, 16:38
I don't care much for price cut, as I've already got one, although it would help sales and games which is always a good thing, plus they've had lots of stores giving discounts and generous bundles, which virutally always happens before price cuts.
But I'm hoping it's a mega FW update, Ps2 BC Please!
Edit;
And yes, LBP or Uncharted are feasible on PC or 360, but won't happen (unless by chance Sony and Microsoft merge :p), I think Sony own the IP, not the franchise, so they could make a LittleBigPlanet 2 for pc I guess.
I think it's a price cut. Then again, I already have a PS3! :D
If it is a price cut, I'd definitely buy one.
Ditto.
Some people are speculating that this is an April Fool's Day prank. :cool:
if it is, i hope i don't fall for it like i did with that "zelda movie" last year... :/
Ward Dragon
30-03-09, 18:34
I still fail to see why some want the PS3 to have backwards compatibility for PS2 games. What's wrong with poor old PS2? :p
Because it's much more convenient to have one machine play all the games than to constantly have to switch back and forth between which machine is hooked up to the TV :p
Seriously though, I think that removing backwards compatibility really hurt the PS3 sales. I'm a PS2 owner and I have a lot of PS2 games that I love and want to be able to play. If my PS2 ever breaks, then I would have upgraded to a PS3 instead of getting a new PS2. But now that wouldn't be an option since Sony has essentially forced people to buy a new PS2 if they want to continue to be able to play PS2 games. In this situation, why would I waste a bunch of extra money on a PS3 to be able to play a few exclusive PS3 games that don't appeal to me when the much cheaper PS2 does everything I want it to do?
I put forth the idea a while ago that a PS2 @ $99.00 coupled with a motion control input device could be a definite challenge to the Wii. Less than half the cost, not much difference graphically, a huge PS2 library that already exists. Let the shovelware avalanch begin, it is all money in the bank at a time that Sony needs money.
Eddie Haskell
30-03-09, 18:50
I thought consoles were supposed to cheap and affordable for the average Joe Gamer? And how long has the PS3 been around?
Isn't that why they are supposes to "better" than the PC? :rolleyes:
interstellardave
30-03-09, 18:54
I thought consoles were supposed to cheap and affordable for the average Joe Gamer? And how long has the PS3 been around?
Isn't that why they are supposes to "better" than the PC? :rolleyes:
The PS3 has been marketed as "the be-all-end-all" of consoles, though. They rushed it to market to push Blu Ray and, I guess, that worked for them at a time when the Blu Ray/HDDVD war was just getting going. Don't forget, though, that it was $200.00 more than the 360 when it was released. It's never been that affordable in comparison to it's competitors--particularly for people who just want to play games.
Ward Dragon
30-03-09, 19:28
I thought consoles were supposed to cheap and affordable for the average Joe Gamer? And how long has the PS3 been around?
Isn't that why they are supposes to "better" than the PC? :rolleyes:
Consoles aren't consoles anymore. Now they are low-end PC's in console cases. They do things other than playing games, they hook up to the internet, you can install games, download patches, use them to chat, etc. They're PC's now :p
Eddie Haskell
30-03-09, 19:33
Consoles aren't consoles anymore. Now they are low-end PC's in console cases. They do things other than playing games, they hook up to the internet, you can install games, download patches, use them to chat, etc. They're PC's now :p
The qualifier you use is most accurate....;)
Larson_1988
30-03-09, 19:34
Consoles aren't consoles anymore. Now they are low-end PC's in console cases. They do things other than playing games, they hook up to the internet, you can install games, download patches, use them to chat, etc. They're PC's now :p
Browse the internet.... :p
The qualifier you use is most accurate....;)
I couldn't agree more! :)
Ward Dragon
30-03-09, 19:35
The qualifier you use is most accurate....;)
Of course :p I've gotten into consoles recently to play exclusive games, but I'll always be a PC gamer :D
Physical impossibility,
the size od the data of Uncharted on the disc is 48GB you would need 5 normal discs for and XBOX to be able to play Uncharted,
PS- I am not a XBOX hater, sorry!
Woah, I'm really excited. :jmp: I hope it's something positive. -_- Like BC. :mis:
Consoles aren't consoles anymore. Now they are low-end PC's in console cases. They do things other than playing games, they hook up to the internet, you can install games, download patches, use them to chat, etc. They're PC's now :p
Another believer! :hug: I miss the simple PS2 days when the graphics where great and there was none of this downloading patches, uploading photos, getting themes, uploading music, chatting and browsing the internet crap.
I still fail to see why some want the PS3 to have backwards compatibility for PS2 games. What's wrong with poor old PS2? :p
How? It's much easier to have it on one device.
Well i don't really care for the PS3 price cut as i already got a PS3 nearly 2 years ago.
Melonie Tomb Raider
30-03-09, 21:29
Oooh, I'm excited :jmp:
I really hope it is BC but I'm nearly 90% sure it could be the price drop as it has been hinted for a long time!:)
Only tomorrow then we will all be happy, or not, when they announce it!:p
oocladableeblah
30-03-09, 21:36
I wonder if it's about the 3D capabilities of the ps3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0MP95OCtdg
It's almost tomorrow. I'm so curious now :p
larson n natla
30-03-09, 21:42
One of three
1 Our online service is no longer free
2 Were teaming up with microsoft to make a mega machine
3 Were bust
Or price cut :)
Apparently it's not a price cut (http://www.qj.net/Sony-s-big-March-31-announcement-not-a-PS3-pricecut/pg/49/aid/129889).
larson n natla
30-03-09, 21:53
Apparently it's not a price cut (http://www.qj.net/Sony-s-big-March-31-announcement-not-a-PS3-pricecut/pg/49/aid/129889).
Or it is just on a console that no one wants to buy anymore because the only games still releaed are cheap movie junk, thier so determined to keep the price high and instead they focus on the ps2 which is a gorgeously lovely console just that its not as important to as many people as a ps3 price cut would be.
da tomb raider!
30-03-09, 21:55
Because it's much more convenient to have one machine play all the games than to constantly have to switch back and forth between which machine is hooked up to the TV :p
Seriously though, I think that removing backwards compatibility really hurt the PS3 sales. I'm a PS2 owner and I have a lot of PS2 games that I love and want to be able to play. If my PS2 ever breaks, then I would have upgraded to a PS3 instead of getting a new PS2. But now that wouldn't be an option since Sony has essentially forced people to buy a new PS2 if they want to continue to be able to play PS2 games. In this situation, why would I waste a bunch of extra money on a PS3 to be able to play a few exclusive PS3 games that don't appeal to me when the much cheaper PS2 does everything I want it to do?
I have all of my consoles hooked up to one TV. If your TV doesn't have enough scart sockets for this, you can get cheap accessories that plug into one scart socket and add more scart sockets to it, so you can hook everything up to one TV. Slightly inconvenient, sure, but hardly that bad. Besides, if you have different consoles (like a PS2 and 360, for instance), you'll need this accessory to hook everything up to one TV anyway.
Apparently it's not a price cut (http://www.qj.net/Sony-s-big-March-31-announcement-not-a-PS3-pricecut/pg/49/aid/129889).
Ah, too bad. Whatever Sony are announcing, it had better be good, then. Perhaps it is backwards compatibility?
Melonie Tomb Raider
30-03-09, 21:57
I have an old 80 gig PS3, which is already has BC, so I hope it's something new. :p
Camera Obscura
30-03-09, 21:59
How many of you don't have backwards compatibility? I have it on my 80 GB model but it sounds like BC is no longer supported and rare now? :confused:
If it isn't the pricecut then I really do hope it is the BC!
I have yet to get a PS3 but I really do want BC, I don't see the point of most PS3's not having it to be honest. It is obvious BC is in high demand...
Physical impossibility,
the size od the data of Uncharted on the disc is 48GB you would need 5 normal discs for and XBOX to be able to play Uncharted,
PS- I am not a XBOX hater, sorry!
You seem to have forgotten about something (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_compression). :p
Apparently it's not a price cut (http://www.qj.net/Sony-s-big-March-31-announcement-not-a-PS3-pricecut/pg/49/aid/129889).
*Cuts self*
Apparently it's not a price cut (http://www.qj.net/Sony-s-big-March-31-announcement-not-a-PS3-pricecut/pg/49/aid/129889).
Oh, it could be a price cut... A PS2 price cut (http://kotaku.com/5189588/ps2-to-go-99) :p.
We'll see tomorrow anyway. I now I will lol if that's the "major announcement", ha.
Tonyrobinson
30-03-09, 22:41
Maybe It'll be bringing out it's on *Elite/Arcade* version :)
Ward Dragon
30-03-09, 23:16
How many of you don't have backwards compatibility? I have it on my 80 GB model but it sounds like BC is no longer supported and rare now? :confused:
The original 60 GB PS3's had a PS2 chip inside so they had full backwards compatibility. The original 80 GB PS3's achieved backwards compatibility through software emulation so it could play most PS2 games (but not all) and it had some bugs and problems with some of the games that could be played. All new PS3's have no PS2 backwards compatibility whatsoever, although they can still play PS1 games.
oocladableeblah
30-03-09, 23:20
idk why they don't just put a PS2 emulator on the ps store. Then they don't have to put it into the ps3 and that would help the price.
ajrich17901
31-03-09, 00:49
Well either way only 3 hours to go. I was realy hoping for a price drop though >.> sick of playing on my brother in laws ps3.
Shark_Blade
31-03-09, 07:09
Sony announce going bankrupt.
Or maybe it's just April Fool.
Larson_1988
31-03-09, 11:54
I just read the big announcement. Apparently it's gonna be a feature much like the upcoming OnLive service that's being released for PC, and ability to store savegames, game content and your PS3 profile on an external server. Wow, epic failure! :mad: I can't link because i'm on the PS3.
Oh btw, the OnLive wannabe is gonna be named PS Cloud.
Oh this announcement has brought such immense joy to our hearts.:p
PS Cloud...:vlol:
Well this would be great news if we wouldn't have to use our own space for the game data. *looks at RE5 and Siren*:pi:
I was hoping for a PSP2 announcement.:(
xD
Thanks for posting.:)
Larson_1988
31-03-09, 12:22
Woah, does the PS3 version of RE5 require installation? The 360 version doesn't.
And i was hoping for a backwardscompatibility patch for the 40 GB PS3. :(
About the PS Cloud, i'm guessing it will require fast internet speeds.
And you're welcome. :)
Big announcement was a PS2 price cut: Announcement (http://kotaku.com/5191863/sony-makes-its-big-announcement-ps2-priced-under-100).
It's odd they said this was a global announcement yet only cut the price of the PS2 in one market.
I heard about the PS Cloud thing but they've only trademarked the idea recently. You can read about it here (http://kotaku.com/5190494/playstation-moving-into-the-cloud).
PS cloud is a great idea. It would be like a backup for your save files. If I understood it correctly.
Larson_1988
31-03-09, 12:38
Big announcement was a PS2 price cut: Announcement (http://kotaku.com/5191863/sony-makes-its-big-announcement-ps2-priced-under-100).
Oh dear, i think my level of stupidity just rised! Thanks for posting the real announcement Dingaling! :)
Still not happy about PS Cloud though. :mad:
Thanks Dingaling!:)
Why can't they just let it die? >_<
Woah, does the PS3 version of RE5 require installation? The 360 version doesn't.
And i was hoping for a backwardscompatibility patch for the 40 GB PS3. :(
About the PS Cloud, i'm guessing it will require fast internet speeds.
And you're welcome. :)
I read that it requires a 5GB install. 0_o
Me too.I actually read about a hidden factory mode that allows you to play PS2 games on 40GB PS3's,but from what I understood you wouldn't have any of the updates or something like that and I decided not to do it,lol. xD
I also saw some vids on youtube,but I don't know if it's true.Some people say that when the PS2 will finally die,Sony will unlock this feature with a firmware update.
Yeah,just like OnLive,OTOY and GaiKai...I hope they all fail. :p
Wait!Since the new PSP won't have a UMD drive,maybe they will use this Cloud thingy to let you play your games from their servers or something like that.
Oh dear, i think my level of stupidity just rised! Thanks for posting the real announcement Dingaling! :)
Still not happy about PS Cloud though. :mad:
Haha, don't feel bad. I've read a few things where the sites are going "IS THIS THE ANNOUNCEMENT?!" and leading people to get confused. Half the time I had no idea what was going on :p.
I was rather pleased Kotaku actually stated "Big Announcement" otherwise we'd still be stuck in confusion :D.
But as I said, it makes no sense for this to be a global announcement yet the price cut is for one territory. To me, that's a North America announcement, this does not effect me (nor would a price cut in EU but you get my point!).
Heck, they could announce the PS Cloud thing later on today as well, that at least would be global (unless, like the PSN video store, it's NA only (so far)).
Where did you read the PS Cloud announcement btw?
(And yeah, RE5 requires a 5GB installation on the PS3).
EDIT: And to why they won't let the PS2 die - Sony have a ten year life cycle for all their consoles so far and it's not quite ten years yet :D.
EDIT AGAIN: I stand corrected - slightly. SCEE have announced a price cut but for everwhere except the UK! The price of the PS2 will be lowered to €99 for those non-UK Europeans (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/no-playstation-2-price-cut-for-the-uk) :).
Larson_1988
31-03-09, 12:48
Thanks Dingaling!:)
Why can't they just let it die? >_<
I read that it requires a 5GB install. 0_o
Me too.I actually read about a hidden factory mode that allows you to play PS2 games on 40GB PS3's,but from what I understood you wouldn't have any of the updates or something like that and I decided not to do it,lol. xD
I also saw some vids on youtube,but I don't know if it's true.Some people say that when the PS2 will finally die,Sony will unlock this feature with a firmware update.
Yeah,just like OnLive,OTOY and GaiKai...I hope they all fail. :p
Wait!Since the new PSP won't have a UMD drive,maybe they will use this Cloud thingy to let you play your games from their servers or something like that.
Wow, that's the same amount that MGS4 requires. O_O
Yeah, one can only hope that Sony open their eyes for something that's actually useful for the PS3 owners.
Heck, they could announce the PS Cloud thing later on today as well, that at least would be global (unless, like the PSN video store, it's NA only (so far)).
Where did you read the PS Cloud announcement btw?
Yeah, maybe it's not meant to be official yet.
And i read about it on an Norwegian online newspaper. :) Not sure if it's any point in linking but here you go,
http://www.vg.no/spill
It's the first article.
Edit: What? No PS2 price cut for EU? Why oh why does Sony make so unfair decisions lately?
Wow. Sony just keep on strolling towards the end of the plank, don't they? PS2 price cut? Does anyone even want a PS2 any more?! They're supposed to be attempting to sell more PS3s, but they just don't seem interested. Ah well. Now I've got a 360 too, I couldn't care less how much they screw themselves over any more.
You have to remember that with each PS3 sold they lose money (approximately $50). They could cut the price but they would just lose more money, they may gain market share but they'd gain it at a considerable loss of money.
Instead Sony just seem content with bundling some games in with their system.
You have to remember that with each PS3 sold they lose money (approximately $50). They could cut the price but they would just lose more money, they may gain market share but they'd gain it at a considerable loss of money.
Instead Sony just seem content with bundling some games in with their system.
And whilst they may be losing that little bit less money on each system sold, they're losing market share like never before. They need to close the gap sharpish, or third party developers will completely forgo the platform in favour of the 360. There were rumblings a few weeks ago about major developers mulling over the idea of reallocating resources from PS3 development to wii development, and Sony's cba attitude isn't going to help.
They seem to be absolutely intent on destroying all the good work they did last gen by making bad decisions again and again. Charging developers for content downloaded from PSN? Bad idea - I guarantee that was why we didn't get a TRU demo on PS3, not because of the 360-DLC agreement. Eidos were in a bad way money-wise, why would they put out a demo on a platform that's going to end up costing them $0.16 for each copy downloaded?
Sony seem to be expecting people that had PS2s last gen to stay blindly loyal and upgrade to PS3. But if they can't be bothered to make the effort to procure decent, exclusive content from their third party developers, then why should the consumer show loyalty? Using a recent example - if Sony have decided they care too little about one of the brands that made Sony consoles (TR) to get their consumers some DLC, then I don't think it's unreasonable at all for their consumers to show the same attitude of disposability to Sony themselves and move to another platform.
Like I say, if Sony buck their ideas up that'd be great. I love my PS3. However, if they carry on the way they are doing, then it's not looking good in the PS triple camp - at least I have my 360 to fall back on in that situation.
^Well said. I'm starting to get quite worried that PS3 is becoming a damp squib. Sure, there have been some good games but its like it hasn't really 'taken off' like the other two consoles did. This is because PS3 seems to be too expensive not just for potential buyers but for Sony themselves! Also, its apparantly quite difficult to develop for. To top it all, Sony have made some blunderous decisions in recent times. If it continues like this, I might have to jump ship before it sinks and swap for an XBOX360. It happened to Sega and I feel it could very well happen again. Mistakes are being repeated big time.
interstellardave
31-03-09, 14:38
PS2 Price cut? Wow. :vlol::vlol::vlol:
PS2 Price cut? Wow. :vlol::vlol::vlol:
Yep - and for everywhere except the UK to boot. Go, Sony, go!
:hea:
interstellardave
31-03-09, 14:50
Sony is so damn lucky that the one mistake MS made this gen (releasing too-high a percentage of faulty hardware) was so damaging to them. Sony has made many missteps while I think MS has done most things right... if not for the RROD hanging over MS' head, and making some shy away from buying the 360, how much further behind would Sony be now?
Sony is so damn lucky that the one mistake MS made this gen (releasing too-high a percentage of faulty hardware) was so damaging to them. Sony has made many missteps while I think MS has done most things right... if not for the RROD hanging over MS' head, and making some shy away from buying the 360, how much further behind would Sony be now?
If it weren't for RROD, Sony would have been out of this race months ago. It was the only reason I actually waited for a PS3 to be released rather than jumping ship.
interstellardave
31-03-09, 14:57
If it weren't for RROD, Sony would have been out of this race months ago. It was the only reason I actually waited for a PS3 to be released rather than jumping ship.
I have had problems with the RROD myself, yet MS replaced the unit quickly and free of charge (of course) so all I had was about a weeks' inconvenience. Small price to pay for all the gaming enjoyment I've gotten out of it!
My PS3 is a pretty good Blu Ray player... and I've played a few games on it; it'll never see all the game playing my PS2 did back in the day, though. (Take note, Sony: PS2 was "back in the day" not today!).
Legend of Lara
31-03-09, 15:03
PS2 price cut?
PS2 price cut?!
PS2 PRICE CUT?!
Because PS2s are so expensive these days! :rolleyes:
:vlol:
Somehow I'm not very shocked.
Oh Sony... what happened to your PS2 era marketing team? They did everything right!
LMFAO! I got excited reading through this thread then found what the announcement was :(! Booooooooooring.
disneyprincess20
31-03-09, 15:29
Oh Sony... what happened to your PS2 era marketing team? They did everything right!
I think they got pinched by comparethemeerkat.com....
This is hardly earth-shattering. Sony are starting to look worse and worse!
interstellardave
31-03-09, 15:32
Oh Sony... what happened to your PS2 era marketing team? They did everything right!
What do you mean... the PS2 era marketing team is still working hard... marketing the PS2! :cln:
What do you mean... the PS2 era marketing team is still working hard... marketing the PS2! :cln:
lmao! :vlol:
I really REALLY want a reason to brush the dust off my PS3 :(! (besides you know; hygiene lmao)
Shark_Blade
31-03-09, 15:37
-_- .. What an exciting announcement.
Still, PS3 is working well as my Blu Ray player at the moment, but Sony you're missing the point. It's a gaming platform, that's what I bought it for in the first place.
So far I only have MGS4 and Uncharted on PS3 whereas the other games like Devil May Cry 4, Resident Evil 4, Soul Calibur IV, Hitman Blood Money, etc etc are all on my Xbox360.
Secure some exclusivities back, make people want your platform back. Imagine if Uncharted, MGS4 and the likes went to 360 as well, what's left? No uniqueness is left, PS3 will only be the 'alternative' platform in gaming next to 360.
Lara Fan 4Life
31-03-09, 15:45
That announcement was, umm... surprising. :p
What do you mean... the PS2 era marketing team is still working hard... marketing the PS2! :cln:
I mean in what happened to using them for the PS3. :p
Lara's home
31-03-09, 15:51
I wonder what Sony actually are thinking right now.
I wonder what Sony actually are thinking right now.
All of Sony except the marketing department: We're ****ed!
Maybe they should come up with a few more 'Demonic Baby Doll' commercials.
or.................................. dun dun dun!!!!!!!!...... i dont know but i hope its fun what ever it is
OMG!! Sony dropped the price of PS2,big deal, Sony didn't jump to the tune of fanboy's, well done. Sony didn't drop price of PS3 (looks outside.....yep the Earth is still spinning)
PS3 fans/hypocrites moan as usual...i want,i want i want pfft
just :cen: off and defect to 360 already.Sony already got your money.
ta ta see ya ;)boo hoo Sony haven't gone bankrupt because of selfish folks demanding a price cut....aww bless
You make it sound like ignoring the market demands and potential customer cries is a good thing.
And "defect"? :rolleyes: Like either company is worth being loyal to.
If people haven't already bought a PS2, they won't buy it now. :rolleyes:
I don't care about price cuts. I have the consoles already.
I was hoping for a backward PS2 patch for my PS3.
Something for the people who actually have bought the consoles. :(
You make it sound like ignoring the market demands and potential customer cries is a good thing.
And "defect"? :rolleyes: Like either company is worth being loyal to.
Sony made it quite clear they are concentrating on it's FIRST PARTY studios,those who want(ed) a PS3 have one already.those that don't won't get one. simple as.
in short who gives a flying monkeys about b/c that is flawed anyway :rolleyes: bottom line is simple, PS2 still makes Sony a profit,the PS3 is dead weight and should be ditched IMO, they can't afford to pander to the morons who can't see that by dropping the price of PS3 it would seriously damage the company.
i bet that's why the fanboys demand a price cut eh!! see Sony go under....guess that's the price of success eh!!
EDIT: yes, i did just say I WANT Sony to abandon PS3 and the industry altogether
So according to your view, a price cut would not move more consoles, increase demand and eventually be positive to Sony's bottom line?
da tomb raider!
31-03-09, 16:49
Wow, yet another bad decision by Sony. What the heck is wrong with them? I can understand them not cutting the price of the PS3, given how much money they'd lose, but creating all of this hype and speculation by announcing an announcement, only to reveal that it's a $30 price cut for a 9 year-old machine is insane. They really need to sort their management out, although it's probably too late for that by now. As I've probably said before, the PS3 rather resembles the Sega Saturn, a fantastic console ruined by terrible management and the like. Wake up, Sony.
So according to your view, a price cut would not move more consoles, increase demand and eventually be positive to Sony's bottom line?
IMO that is correct,a price cut won't shift PS3's, heck even the most hyped exclusives didn't.
in the short term i agree that a price cut would "potentially" boost sales, however, in the long term it would cripple the gaming division and Sony as a whole.....they're recording losses after losses after losses across it's empire.
best solution
1# abandon the PS3 (cease all production of)
2# back and suport existing PS3 install base
3# sell off LEAST profitable first party studios
4# licence it's best selling first party titles to Nintendo
5# sell off ALL shares in MGM Movie studio
6# sell off any subsidiaries it has,least profitable product brand.
scale back the entire Sony organisation :D
toxicraider
31-03-09, 16:53
Just wow :eek:
That's not even a significant price cut! :p
Still, it could be the start of the end for poor ps2, maybe their pushing as many as they can out in the west (there's still a growing market in developing countries) and will stop production soon. Afterall, ps2's probably give cost next to nothing to produce, heck if they were selling them at £50, I'd even buy another :eek:.
da tomb raider!
31-03-09, 17:06
What I think Sony should do is stop making silly policies like charging publishers money for DLC on PSN and making announcments for announcments for things as minor as PS2 price cuts, and just carry on like Nintendo and Microsoft did in the last generation. The way Sony are going there's no way they're ever going to beat the Wii or 360, but as long as they don't keep alienating the fans and third-party developers and publishers with bad ideas like this, perhaps their future consoles, whatever they may be, will be more successful than the PS3. If they don't it's probably going to be Sega all over again.
I'll give it a year. If things don't improve I'm 'defecting'. Done it with Sega, will do it again and I'm sure I won't be the only one. I can't afford a 'stillborn' system sitting in my room going unused because no one's developing for it and Sony can't be bothered to make it any more appealing.
I am and never ever have been a fanboy of any company and this is the case for the majority of gamers out there these days. Loyalty counts for nothing and the best system with the best support behind it wins. Simple as. I really hope this situation improves as I believe Playstation 3 is actually a better system. :(
toxicraider
31-03-09, 17:17
Are you guys serious?
I have no problems in terms of running out of games to play, and won't in the foreseeable future :confused:.
As far as first party games go, I think Sony needs as many as it has to gain more profit from the Games division, whilst the download charge is simply necessary to keep the service free.
If the sales don't improve I might just get a 360 like my friends.
Depends on what your tastes are. Like I said, I'm going to give it another year. Right now, it could go either way but the signs aren't too healthy. I'm definitely buying the latest Ratchet Clank game soon, that should be good fun. I think its only sensible to keep an eye on things at this point.
Lmao at the big announcement ! :p
And whilst they may be losing that little bit less money on each system sold, they're losing market share like never before. They need to close the gap sharpish, or third party developers will completely forgo the platform in favour of the 360. There were rumblings a few weeks ago about major developers mulling over the idea of reallocating resources from PS3 development to wii development, and Sony's cba attitude isn't going to help.
They don't need market share though, what they need is profts and that's what they're trying o focus on. The whole company made a massive loss last year (the first in 14 years i think and only the 2nd in the entire history of the company).
And to be fair, compared to the Xbox 360, the PS3 is outselling it on a year-by-year comparison (if you compare Year 1 to year 1 sales and the like) even at the higher price.
Lowering the price would have been fantastic no doubt - plenty of people would've rushed out to buy it but, as I said, Sony are wanting profit right now rather than market share which they're getting anyway.
I do agree with you about their bad decisions though - the PSN upload/bandwith price thing is stupid. It is one way to put off putting things up on the PSN (though it's still getting updated regularly with content) especially if a company can't afford it.
As for the games on offer on the console - there are plenty. (THis is aimed at Reggie btw, yes, I'm watching you closely young fellow). It's a case of going out and looking at games that don't get marketed heavily, trying out games you don't normally go for - and I also say that to all console owners. There are gems of games out there hidden within those games that had the pleasure of heavy marketing. Try them out.
As for the games on offer on the console - there are plenty. (THis is aimed at Reggie btw, yes, I'm watching you closely young fellow). It's a case of going out and looking at games that don't get marketed heavily, trying out games you don't normally go for - and I also say that to all console owners. There are gems of games out there hidden within those games that had the pleasure of heavy marketing. Try them out.
That's fair enough and I accept your advice.
I try to keep up but I don't buy gaming mags anymore and I usually only hear of something if I chance upon it, hear it from a friend or see it being discussed here. The upside is that I have a good quality games collection the downside is that I end up relying on sequels so TR7, FFXII, DMC3 and Sonic Heroes - all of which had decent titles beforehand, ended up crap. You could forgive me for giving these a chance though (especially since TR and FF shows signs of improvement).
Thanks for the visitors message. :tmb:
And to be fair, compared to the Xbox 360, the PS3 is outselling it on a year-by-year comparison (if you compare Year 1 to year 1 sales and the like) even at the higher price.
Lowering the price would have been fantastic no doubt - plenty of people would've rushed out to buy it but, as I said, Sony are wanting profit right now rather than market share which they're getting anyway.
Year by year comparisons can be a little misleading. The sales environments are quite a bit different. On the one hand being the first HD console on the market (MS). On the other being launched into a more established market and being the dominant market leader of the previous generation (Sony).
It is surprising that, having perhaps one of the most recognized brand names in history, Sony has done as poorly as they have. The biggest worry is that the negative image seems to be snowballing and that can really be disasterous.
Sony has a very strong line up of games coming in 2009 and I imagine that they will hunker down and ride out the current storm. They just need to quit shooting themselves in the foot.
It's priced at $99.99 now? :confused: I bought one like two months ago as a present for 100$? It must have been on sale.
LaraCablara
31-03-09, 19:50
You know whats funny, I bought the Ps3 without any knowledge of how bad Sony is doing and how everything Ps3 sucks hairy eggs and all that (other then the 600 USD stuff), and I enjoyed my Ps3 a lot :). I was surprised to see how people feel it has no good games or anything.
Here is some insight into Sony's thoughts
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/wii-to-lose-market-share-to-99-ps2-says-sony/?biz=1
And MS's response
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/microsoft-dismisses-playstation-2-price-cut
I think MS means the "HD"' gaming industry. They have a tendency to ignore the Wii
Here is some insight into Sony's thoughts
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/wii-to-lose-market-share-to-99-ps2-says-sony/?biz=1
And MS's response
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/microsoft-dismisses-playstation-2-price-cut
I think MS means the "HD"' gaming industry. They have a tendency to ignore the Wii
good read, i pretty much agree with him regarding a PS3 price cut. it's also refreshing they haven't abandoned the current and future PS2 install base.
a PS3 price cut will occur when it's right to do so, right now it is a dead weight but it is selling, not as much as they'd like but it's selling.
Sony have a very unorthodox strategy at play :vlol: prepared to loose market share & 3rd party exclusves without a whimper...........strange indeed but i like it :D
PS2 price cut??? I know that I own a PS2 but PS2?? Why not their current console???
And is it not already massively cheap anyhow - I got my new one in the UK last Xmas for 70 pounds at Argos. Hardly breaking the bank. I mean I have no inclination to upgrade just yet as I don't buy so many games these days and have a good collection of PS1/2 games to play but this announcement seems a bit on the illogical side when PS2 is now old gen. You would think they would focus on current gen consoles instead.
:vlol: :vlol: :vlol:
Today's lesson: Sony knows how to build hype.
wow.... great console... but horrible decsions
mau3genius
01-04-09, 03:11
Clearly it isn't a "major announcement", but in my opinion it doesn't sound like a bad idea at all. I see the PS2 as a good choice for those gamers who don't want to make the jump to next-gen just yet, because a) they don't have the money to do it or b) they don't care. The PS3, on the other hand, seems to be a longterm business. Using Blu-ray Sony is assuring the lead in the not so distant future, me thinks.
"We believe, however, that the future lies in the growth of current generation consoles and Xbox 360, as the fastest growing games console last year, with sales up over 80 per cent, will continue to drive the market.In all honesty, I think Chris Lewis is saying this only because everyone at MS knows they would never be able to pull out something like that, simply because the Xbox wasn't exactly a groundbreaking console.
ajrich17901
01-04-09, 09:42
wow..uh i wasnt expectin the BIG announcement to be about the ps2 system O_o. Uh i guess a good deal for people who dont wanna upgrade yet...
I myself may buy a new ps2 since mine died quite sometime ago. Also a good deal for me since i cant stand most of the next gen games cept uncharted lmao.
Uh... so that's what Sony's so called BIG ANNOUNCEMENT was?! A price drop for the :cen: PS2?!
Thanks for getting us so hyped up over NOTHING Sony! I was hoping it would be for the PS3 not the PS2, because £290 is still too expensive.
Besides don't most people already own a PS2 now? Also, this price cut isn't in the UK either! So, Sony ignores us Brits YET AGAIN! :mad:
A price cut is pointless anyway, since I've seen PS2s for about £89.99
YOU overhyped YOURSELF
YOU chose to read sensationalist headlines, all Sony said was "we have an announcement"
it was the gaming press who used headline grabbers and speculate :mad:
YOU overhyped YOURSELF
YOU chose to read sensationalist headlines, all Sony said was "we have an announcement"
it was the gaming press who used headline grabbers and speculate :mad:
But why pre-empt an announcement at all? Why not just make it? Especially when it related to their almost 10-year old platform, not their current one.
Sony knew that there have been demands for a PS3 price cut and rumours of the same for a good while now - they knew that announcing a forthcoming announcement would lead to people assuming a PS3 price cut was imminent and that when that wasn't in the pipeline, people would be surprised and annoyed, but they did it anyway.
Sony just don't seem to be bothered about the PS3 any more. It's all very well continuing support for the PS2 but is anyone seriously buying any more? For £30 more you can get an Arcade 360. Sony need to give up pushing the PS2 and start concentrating on getting PS3s into homes. One of the reasons that the 360 has been a surprising success is because MS are putting everything into it - not pouring money into it's predecessor thinking it would help them in the long run.
But why pre-empt an announcement at all? Why not just make it?
Everyone else does it, why shouldn't Sony? It's to generate interest. Not hype, interest. Like Agent 47 said, all the excitement built up by people in this thread is no one's fault but their own.
Sony knew that there have been demands for a PS3 price cut and rumours of the same for a good while now - they knew that announcing a forthcoming announcement would lead to people assuming a PS3 price cut
And that's Sony's fault? Don't forget you're talking about, what has become, the most arrogant of the hardware makers.
Everyone else does it, why shouldn't Sony? It's to generate interest. Not hype, interest. Like Agent 47 said, all the excitement built up by people in this thread is no one's fault but their own.[./'QUOTE]
Everyone else isn't in last place, though...
[QUOTE]
Don't forget you're talking about, what has become, the most arrogant of the hardware makers.
Oh, I know that - and that arrogance is one of the reasons why they're taking such a beating.
im still pleased that they did this ahhhhhh i miss PS2. i feel a bit addicted to the console
im still thinking why sony didnt make newer PS3's not compatiatible with PS2 Games and the answer is this that they know that PS2 will live on for a long time and that it was cheap,cheap console to buy when PS3 Came Out. they wanted PS2 to sell a lot of units if it can and if they made PS3's compatiatble with it no one would buy a PS2( depending if you can afford the PS3)
vBulletin® v3.8.4, Copyright ©2000-2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.