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Jack Croft
29-09-09, 15:42
http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/

What you think?

Sounds good to me, may get for Windows 7. :D

Phys
29-09-09, 15:45
Thanks :tmb: Ill take a look even though I have avast :p

badboy70
29-09-09, 15:46
Gonna try, thanks.

Cochrane
29-09-09, 15:50
Too bad that it won't be a part of Windows 7 by default. I realize that Microsoft is afraid of anti-trust suits. Still, things like virus protection (or web browsers, even though I hate IE) are pieces of software that a modern computer (at least one with Windows, in the case of anti-virus) just has to have and that really should be part of the OS. Making a living out of selling what Microsoft or Apple forgot to include, even though it's necessary by any normal standard, is just not a good business model.

Phys
29-09-09, 16:23
Reporting back :p

I love the interface for MSE. Its nicely laid out in one window by the use of tabs. I always figured the one for Avast! was incredibly confusing and messy... even though it did its job. I think i'll stick to this one for a while and see how it goes. If it doesn't go well, i'll revert to Avast!.

Jack Croft
29-09-09, 17:00
Reporting back :p

I love the interface for MSE. Its nicely laid out in one window by the use of tabs. I always figured the one for Avast! was incredibly confusing and messy... even though it did its job. I think i'll stick to this one for a while and see how it goes. If it doesn't go well, i'll revert to Avast!.

Coool i'll pick it up later.

Mystery-King
29-09-09, 17:02
Coool i'll pick it up later.

Ive downloaded it. Its soooooo easy to use and looks amazing. And it seems as good as some other competitors. A lot better that AVG and avast by miles! :jmp:

TRfan23
29-09-09, 17:11
Now all we need is a review from EscondeR ;)

I might try it out sometime :) Just I'm really liking Avira ;)

Jack Croft
29-09-09, 17:13
Were is Esconder! :ton:

irjudd
29-09-09, 17:22
Been trying it out for a while today. Seems to be pretty capable. It uses around 6MB in the background.

Jack Croft
29-09-09, 17:26
The RAM usage is awesome.

Tombraiderx08
29-09-09, 19:49
this is compatible with vista... right? :S

Phys
29-09-09, 19:50
this is compatible with vista... right? :S

Of course :p

Tombraiderx08
29-09-09, 19:52
scoooore! w00t, good, cuz our computer has been acting funky

Dina_Croft
29-09-09, 19:53
Rly?Microsoft?Free stuff??

Nah I think it's a scam...I will install it and then Bill Gates will just pop out and be like "GIVE ME MY MONEY!":pi:

Jack Croft
30-09-09, 07:44
I like it so far.

Very east to use and simple. :D

*richietrent*
30-09-09, 10:43
Rly?Microsoft?Free stuff??

Nah I think it's a scam...I will install it and then Bill Gates will just pop out and be like "GIVE ME MY MONEY!":pi:

Give it a week or so and we'll recieve emails asking for payments!

I've downloaded this, as i thought why not, after the amount that ive paid for security software from them before, then yeah i deserve something free! It works so far, so i hope it keeps up :D

TRfan23
30-09-09, 11:09
I've downloaded it and installed it :) The only downside is it uses up more RAM juice then Avira does ;) When I checked my processes, it said it was using something like 15MB. Avira only uses 2MB!

badboy70
30-09-09, 11:42
I've downloaded it and installed it :) The only downside is it uses up more RAM juice then Avira does ;) When I checked my processes, it said it was using something like 15MB. Avira only uses 2MB!It only uses 2,5MB for me :p

irjudd
30-09-09, 12:47
I don't generally use any "always on" virus protection; I prefer to just do virus scans every month or so to check on things, but this program so far is light weight enough that I think I'll let it stay on here. :tmb:

TRfan23
30-09-09, 13:52
I did a full system scan and look at these results!

Category: Trojan Notifier

Description: This program connects to the Internet in the background.

Recommendation: Remove this software immediately.

Microsoft Security Essentials detected programs that may compromise your privacy or damage your computer. You can still access the files that these programs use without removing them (not recommended). To access these files, select the 'Allow' action and click 'Apply actions'. If this option is not available, log on as administrator or ask the local administrator for help.

Items:
containerfile:C:\Users\Oliver\Downloads\Windows\Un locker V1.8.7.exe
file:C:\Users\Oliver\Downloads\Windows\Unlocker V1.8.7.exe->(nsis-6-$(PLUGINSDIR)\eBay_shortcuts_1016_Unlocker.exe)->(nsis-3-eBayShortcuts.exe)


Unlocker (http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/) can't be a virus?

Well that would mean that Alex recommended me a program once that apparently contains a trojan :(

Though Avira says it's not a virus ;)

Lost_Soul
30-09-09, 14:06
Uh yeah...I think I'll pass.

jamieoliver22
01-10-09, 15:33
You all might want to have a look at the small print before you use it...


Information collected, processed, or transmitted: Microsoft SpyNet reports include information about the files or programs in question, such as file names, cryptographic hash, vendor, size, and date stamps. In addition, Microsoft SpyNet might collect full URLs to indicate the origin of the file, which might occasionally contain personal information such as search terms or data entered in forms. Reports might also include the actions that you applied when Microsoft Security Essentials notified you that software was detected. Microsoft SpyNet reports include this information to help Microsoft gauge the effectiveness of Microsoft Security Essentials' ability to detect and remove malicious and potentially unwanted software.
Reports are automatically sent to Microsoft when:
* Microsoft Security Essentials detects software or changes to your computer by software that have not yet been analyzed for risks.
* You apply actions to software that Microsoft Security Essentials has detected.
* Microsoft Security Essentials completes a scheduled scan and automatically applies actions to software that it detects, according to your settings.
Reports might unintentionally contain personal information. To the extent that any personal information is included in a report, Microsoft does not use the information to identify you or contact you.

LightningRider
01-10-09, 15:39
With what's said above, I'll put it on hold for a while, maybe later. :)

Phys
01-10-09, 16:21
You all might want to have a look at the small print before you use it...

Possible, accidental sending of personal data won't stop me using this program. I did read that as I was installing and personally I have no problem with it. They are just labelling what is the truth. The same will happen with other programs, but most don't make anote of it. Nothing to be worried about.

Jack Croft
01-10-09, 17:32
Exactly all other programs McAfee and Norton will do the same.

irjudd
01-10-09, 17:33
I find the legal print for Google products to be much worse.

Dia2blo
01-10-09, 17:40
I probably will use this, as it beats the other free software i have right now, but i'm going to give it a while first to see if anyone has any sudden problems with it. MS are known for that.

Jack Croft
01-10-09, 17:44
From Wiki:


Reviews of the public beta were mostly positive, citing its low resource usage, straightforward user interface (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface), and price point (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_point).[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials#cite_note-PCMag-20)[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials#cite_note-PCWorld-21)[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials#cite_note-Krebs-22) Brian Krebs of The Washington Post (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post) found MSE used 4 megabytes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabytes) of RAM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM) during testing, even during scans. A "Quick Scan" took about 10 minutes, and a "Full Scan" about 45 minutes on an installation of Windows 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7).[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials#cite_note-Krebs-22)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials#cite_note-Krebs-22)
PCWorld (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCWorld) noted its "clear-cut" and "cleanly designed" tabbed user interface (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface). At the top of the main tab, the security status is clearly shown. The other 3 tabs allow users to manually update MSE, review its history, and change program settings. However, PCWorld found some of the settings to be cryptic and confusing. Settings, such as what to do when malware is found, default to "Microsoft Security Essentials' recommended action". There is no explanation of the recommended action except for in the help file. The editor was also confused because MSE does not mention it automatically updates itself within the interface; some may believe they must manually update MSE through the "Update" tab.[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials#cite_note-PCWorld-21)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials#cite_note-PCWorld-21)
PC Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_Magazine) cited MSE's small installation package (about 7 MB, depending on the OS) and its speedy installation. On the downside, the full installation occupied about 110 MB of disk space, and the initial update took 5 to 15 minutes. The editor also noted the fact MSE sets Windows Update (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Update) into its fully automatic mode, which automatically downloads and installs updates although it can then be turned off again through the control panel. Installation succeeded on 12 malware-infected systems. Some full scans took over an hour on infected systems; however, a scan on a clean system took 35 minutes.


During an on-demand scan, MSE found 89 percent of malware samples; but only 30 percent of commercial keyloggers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keylogger). Those results were average, according to the editor. MSE found 67 percent of rootkits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkits). The suite detected half of the editor's scareware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scareware) samples. The suite's real-time protection found 83 percent of malware and blocked the majority of them. In this test, 40 percent of the commercial keyloggers were found. MSE found 78 percent of the rootkits. The editor expressed optimism MSE would improve during its beta testing period.[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials#cite_note-PCMag-20)

EscondeR
01-10-09, 18:00
I did a full system scan and look at these results!

Category: Trojan Notifier

Description: This program connects to the Internet in the background.

Recommendation: Remove this software immediately.

Microsoft Security Essentials detected programs that may compromise your privacy or damage your computer. You can still access the files that these programs use without removing them (not recommended). To access these files, select the 'Allow' action and click 'Apply actions'. If this option is not available, log on as administrator or ask the local administrator for help.

Items:
containerfile:C:\Users\Oliver\Downloads\Windows\Un locker V1.8.7.exe
file:C:\Users\Oliver\Downloads\Windows\Unlocker V1.8.7.exe->(nsis-6-$(PLUGINSDIR)\eBay_shortcuts_1016_Unlocker.exe)->(nsis-3-eBayShortcuts.exe)


Unlocker (http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/) can't be a virus?

Well that would mean that EscondeR recommended me a program once that apparently contains a trojan :(

Though Avira says it's not a virus ;)

False positive of a crappy antivirus.
NSIS is a pin in the arse for many lazy AV developers :rolleyes: They prefer to mark those as dangerous.

Possible, accidental sending of personal data won't stop me using this program. I did read that as I was installing and personally I have no problem with it. They are just labelling what is the truth. The same will happen with other programs, but most don't make anote of it. Nothing to be worried about.
Hmpf... Good luck! :D
Especially if you have no firewall installed...

Jack Croft
01-10-09, 18:04
False positive of a crappy antivirus.
NSIS is a pin in the arse for many lazy AV developers :rolleyes: They prefer to mark those as dangerous.


Hmpf... Good luck! :D
Especially if you have no firewall installed...

I thought most people had a firewall installed?

maniakatosheto
01-10-09, 18:04
You appear to be in a country or region where Microsoft Security Essentials is not available. Thank you for your interest in Microsoft Security Essentials.


-.-"
Yea pretty essential *swears like crazy*

igonge
01-10-09, 19:02
Ooh!

badboy70
01-10-09, 19:05
You appear to be in a country or region where Microsoft Security Essentials is not available. Thank you for your interest in Microsoft Security Essentials.


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Yea pretty essential *swears like crazy*
Download it from softpedia (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Microsoft-Security-Essentials.shtml) ;)

EscondeR
01-10-09, 19:12
^ Or better don't... Just another bloatware that will crap over many useful programs only because they are not MS-approved (read MS made and sold) :rolleyes:

Punaxe
01-10-09, 19:17
^ Or better don't... Just another bloatware that will crap over many useful programs only because they are not MS-approved (read MS made and sold) :rolleyes:

Do you have any reports of this happening?

TRfan23
01-10-09, 19:26
I thought most people had a firewall installed?

You mean Windows Firewall? Well no it's crap ;)

Zone Alarm is a good one ;)

maniakatosheto
01-10-09, 19:27
Download it from softpedia (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Microsoft-Security-Essentials.shtml) ;)

Thanks X3 *gives a cookie* X3

badboy70
01-10-09, 19:36
Thanks X3 *gives a cookie* X3
Yay! :jmp:

Phys
01-10-09, 22:24
Hmpf... Good luck! :D
Especially if you have no firewall installed...

I have a firewall installed. I do know the basic steps of protecting your computer ;)

^ Or better don't... Just another bloatware that will crap over many useful programs only because they are not MS-approved (read MS made and sold) :rolleyes:

I never have this problem at all. Sure, Microsoft programs can sometimes be a pain in the ass, but this seems like a fairly big exaggeration. Like I said on the first page, I'm trying this out and will do so until I encounter problems. So far so good :)

Jack Croft
02-10-09, 10:08
People hate the popular......:o

Sir Croft
04-10-09, 04:29
Last time Microsoft released a free anti-virus app it was just a bunch of spywares sending info to the HQ.