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jackles
12-10-09, 17:52
Around the world millions of children are not getting a proper education because their families are too poor to afford to send them to school. In India, one schoolboy is trying change that. In the first report in the BBC's Hunger to Learn series, Damian Grammaticas meets Babar Ali, whose remarkable education project is transforming the lives of hundreds of poor children.

At 16 years old, Babar Ali must be the youngest headmaster in the world. He's a teenager who is in charge of teaching hundreds of students in his family's backyard, where he runs classes for poor children from his village.

The story of this young man from Murshidabad in West Bengal is a remarkable tale of the desire to learn amid the direst poverty.

MORE (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8299780.stm)

*source : BBC news*

When you read about how children in other countries have to struggle to achieve an education it seems a shame that children in countries where education is a right no longer appreciate it. I know I certainly didn't when I was busy bunking off school!

Forwen
12-10-09, 18:00
Well that's what you get when people know that the state will take care of them no matter how low they sink.

[/snide anti-leftie comment]

Dina_Croft
12-10-09, 18:04
At an older age you understand why education is realy important...If you tell this in a 15 girl/boy (like me)...They will respond like this:

"Good for him...He can take my place if he wants to:rolleyes:"

Catapharact
12-10-09, 18:09
"Good for him...He can take my place if he wants to:rolleyes:"


Which speaks volumes about the current generation of Teens. When I was 15, my first priority was school, my grades and my future. Everything else was supplimentary... Well maybe not everything :whi:.

adventurerLara
12-10-09, 18:18
We take for granted most things which people in lesser developed countries don't have widely available. That is something we're all guilty of, whether it be education or basic needs.

jackles
12-10-09, 18:28
He has been teaching what he has learnt to other children since he was nine.
The fact that he is now the cause of 800 children getting an education is remarkable.

Mad Tony
12-10-09, 18:56
Which speaks volumes about the current generation of Teens. When I was 15, my first priority was school, my grades and my future. Everything else was supplimentary... Well maybe not everything :whi:.Yeah not all teenagers are like that, Cat. :p When I was in secondary school I didn't particularly like it but I would always avoid missing days because it was important. I'm glad I'm getting an education.

Catapharact
12-10-09, 19:16
Yeah not all teenagers are like that, Cat. :p When I was in secondary school I didn't particularly like it but I would always avoid missing days because it was important. I'm glad I'm getting an education.

I know I know :). Trust me, I have met a member on this forum who is extremely gifted in his intuitiveness towards creating a good solid plan for starting a business yet his professor can verily be described as a "clueless moof."

But see you do want to do something for your future and you are thinking about your prospects. I like that :).

Reggie
12-10-09, 19:21
I take my education very seriously - perhaps too seriously in fact! I study what I study because I love studying it, it is an end in itself as well as something to take me eventually into a good job that will help me realise my ambitions. I pity those who don't want education because without it, they have no future prospects and couldn't imagine living so hopelessly. It must be a real sad existance or maybe not in their mind? In any case, I admire that 16 year old boy for taking the initiative. We all have to start somewhere to further ourselves just that some of us have it easier than others - such is the unequal world we live in...

Catapharact
12-10-09, 19:29
I take my education very seriously - perhaps too seriously in fact! I study what I study because I love studying it, it is an end in itself as well as something to take me eventually into a good job that will help me realise my ambitions. I pity those who don't want education because without it, they have no future prospects and couldn't imagine living so hopelessly. It must be a real sad existance or maybe not in their mind? In any case, I admire that 16 year old boy for taking the initiative. We all have to start somewhere to further ourselves just that some of us have it easier than others - such is the unequal world we live in...

You are now part of project New Age. We will be implanting your ambitions in the mind of the future generations. You can't say no. That's what you get for being so freakin responsible :p.

Seriously though it puts me at ease to know that there are people who are serious about their future :).

Cloe Christina
12-10-09, 19:33
i found my 5 rears of secondary school really depressing .... i thought things in my head that no one should ever think .....but i do not what you mean .....i wish the world was a better place .....

Reggie
12-10-09, 19:50
You are now part of project New Age. We will be implanting your ambitions in the mind of the future generations. You can't say no. That's what you get for being so freakin responsible :p.

Seriously though it puts me at ease to know that there are people who are serious about their future :).
If I'm part of a new age project do I have to wake up first thing and worship big rocks? I'm not keen on that. :( I'd just like to see some people a be a bit more confident and hopeful about their own lives - we can all take control and if education/training is there for the taking, then there's no excuse!

mind
12-10-09, 19:51
I hate the educational system here. You dont choose subjects here, you have to study everything and you have to put maximum effort into everything.... Ive really got the feeling that I live for nothing but school... thats why I dont like it...

Nerd For Life
12-10-09, 20:30
That's truly remarkable. I was speaking with a friend today about how people are constantly moaning and *****ing about being in 'boring' college classes. I was sitting next to a classmate of mine and she was constantly asking me the time and taking impatient breaths. I snapped at her and said "You're really ****ing me off, if you don't wanna be here, go home". OK, I know not all college classes are fun fun fun, some might be considered boring, and some days you're tired, I get days like that, we all do. But moaning about it everyday drives me nuts. If you hate college that much, you should not be wasting your money in this. [/rant over]

I personally love to study and I'm concerned about getting a future in something.

Draco
12-10-09, 20:35
I didn't learn much in school, I had to teach myself most of what I know.

Tommy123
12-10-09, 20:40
I agree we dont take school for granted. But at my school we pretty much learn crap over and over and nothing really important

Ada the Mental
12-10-09, 20:58
At an older age you understand why education is realy important...If you tell this in a 15 girl/boy (like me)...They will respond like this:

"Good for him...He can take my place if he wants to:rolleyes:"
I'm pretty sure not every single 15-year-old things this way. :p

That's truly remarkable. I was speaking with a friend today about how people are constantly moaning and *****ing about being in 'boring' college classes. I was sitting next to a classmate of mine and she was constantly asking me the time and taking impatient breaths. I snapped at her and said "You're really ****ing me off, if you don't wanna be here, go home". OK, I know not all college classes are fun fun fun, some might be considered boring, and some days you're tired, I get days like that, we all do. But moaning about it everyday drives me nuts. If you hate college that much, you should not be wasting your money your money in this. [/rant over]
I agree 100%. I get whining about school. But college or university? You chose to be there, no one's forcing you. It's true that some classes are mind-numbingly boring and useless and I won't pretend that there aren't days when I'm bored and would rather sleep in or just go somewhere else but come on!

Nerd For Life
12-10-09, 21:21
agree 100%. I get whining about school. But college or university? You chose to be there, no one's forcing you. It's true that some classes are mind-numbingly boring and useless and I won't pretend that there aren't days when I'm bored and would rather sleep in or just go somewhere else but come on!

I know, right?! I was getting so annoyed because I had a hell of a night, I couldn't sleep at all, and I could barely concentrate with her sighing and asking me the time every 5 minutes. Plus, I think it's rude as hell when you leave the classroom when the teacher is talking.

Bumio
12-10-09, 22:07
oh this is just sad.. i guess you don't realize how important this thing is until you finish it or have no chances at all to study.

my grandmother finished only 4 grades back when she was little. it was WWII and schools were very poor, and were able to teach children until they reached their fourth grade. she would have done anything in order to continue her studies, even now she gets tearful how badly she wanted to study and finish all grades.

i didn't enjoyed my own school, but now when i finished it i would do anything to get back to it again. life seemed to be easier when I was still at school.

Changeling
12-10-09, 22:16
For me, the main reason that I dislike school so much is because my entire life is centered around it. When I wake up in the morning, I'm getting ready for school. When I come home at night, I'm doing homework and revising. Our Guidance Teacher literally told us that we weren't allowed to have a social life now that we're 16 and that our life should be purely dedicated to school. I don't agree with that at all. Studies are important, but discouraging people from socialising and having fun isn't healthy.

I remember there was one girl a few years back who was doing extremely well in school. She barely went out the house and her life was completely and entirely focused on getting an education. She didn't enjoy it, but she pushed herself to do well. Then she died in a car accident. She worked so hard for a future she didn't get and barely had fun... I find that quite upsetting.

Encore
12-10-09, 22:52
I didn't learn much in school, I had to teach myself most of what I know.

I think all children should be taught the basic things like reading, writing, math, some history, etc.

But yes, there are some things in which the school system "chokes" a young person's capacity and creativity.

GameGlitcher77
13-10-09, 05:56
Well in school my basic goal was to pass each year until I graduated, and I've done that. In fact it's been a year and 5 months since I graduated. Now I just have to fucus on real life and the drama it brings.>______> :o:D:p

scoopy_loopy
13-10-09, 06:17
Which speaks volumes about the current generation of Teens. When I was 15, my first priority was school, my grades and my future. Everything else was supplimentary... Well maybe not everything :whi:.

Oh please. I could easily turn that around and say that speaks volumes of the current generation of 20 and 30 somethings. Thinking they were so much better and so much more grateful for their upbrinings.

Its a fallacy, there are millions of school children in the western world who value their educations. Whether they get it for free or not.

Changeling
13-10-09, 10:08
Oh please. I could easily turn that around and say that speaks volumes of the current generation of 20 and 30 somethings. Thinking they were so much better and so much more grateful for their upbrinings.

Very glad that you said that. I've noticed that the older generation is prone to criticizing the younger generation and the argument is rarely turned around. I agree. :)

Nannonxyay
13-10-09, 10:59
I hate school. I guess I have a reason to hate it because it's a place where I feel unsafe because of my mental health problems. I like the education and learning, but what I can't stand is the actual place and people inside it. I'm finally going to be allowed to be home tutored which is excactly what I need because I physically can't go to that place in fear of something terrible happening to me. I think I have slight Agorophobia along with my Depersonalization.

I've missed tons of school in the past few years and I can still keep up with the work and understand most of what has been learnt in my absence because to be honest, some of the teachers are useless and teach Year 7 work to a group of Year 10 students. I know my Maths teacher does this. It's irritating because everything that we've learnt we are learning again for no reason.

xXhayleyroxXx
13-10-09, 11:28
it's not that we don't appreciate it = it depends on a whole lot of things like who teaches us, rules, effiecency, fairness etc...

i do agree to an extent though

1st school - loved
middle school - hated - had a horrible head teacher and got bullied mercilessly - teachers didnt care
high school - years 10 & 11 - loved
high school - years 9, 12 &13 - hated

based on what i said earlier - it's not tht i hate learning, i love it; its how i learn and how its gone about based on other people.

LightningRider
13-10-09, 12:21
I love school. School is important and everything about it, you'll need at some points. I've never missed a day of school in my life even if I'm sick (except chickenpox, that's deadly.)

I don't know why they hate school, they wouldn't even know how to type or write anything without it. It's not like you can learn things by yourself.

And the child is doing wonderful things, he should have gotten the Nobel Peace Price or something. ;)

Changeling
13-10-09, 12:45
I don't know why they hate school, they wouldn't even know how to type or write anything without it. It's not like you can learn things by yourself.

It's only recently that I've started to hate school. The reason is that I know all the things I need to know, I'm voluntarily going back to school, I don't need to be there. I'm choosing to further my education. I'm even doing six hours on a Saturday to take a course in Higher Drama because my school doesn't teach it, and that's not including the total of 9 hours I spend on a train to get there and back (it's held in a different city). What I hate about school is that my teachers say that I'm not taking school seriously and that I need to buck up my act when, in my opinion, I'm doing quite well, but they're just putting me down. No one else from my entire county is taking time out of their personal life to do school on a Saturday apart from me, I'd say that's dedication, but to the school it isn't. They don't even fund my trips, I have to use my own money to get there and back. My school doesn't encourage individuality, they barely even encourage fun. They don't encourage creative subjects. They only have one Music teacher in the whole school and two Art teachers. I was extremely lucky that I got to do Drama there: it only ran for two years and then they dropped the subject. My school encourages boys to become builders and girls to become hairdressers. There's no ambition there at all in my opinion. When I bring up that I do Drama in my own time, they always give me the old, "So you're putting Drama in front of everything else?". Of course I am. I want to do Drama when I leave school. But do they encourage me to do it? Not at all.

xXhayleyroxXx
13-10-09, 12:47
It's only recently that I've started to hate school. The reason is that I know all the things I need to know, I'm voluntarily going back to school, I don't need to be there. I'm choosing to further my education. I'm even doing six hours on a Saturday to take a course in Higher Drama because my school doesn't teach it, and that's not including the total of 9 hours I spend on a train to get there and back (it's held in a different city). What I hate about school is that my teachers say that I'm not taking school seriously and that I need to buck up my act when, in my opinion, I'm doing quite well, but they're just putting me down. No one else from my entire county is taking time out of their personal life to do school on a Saturday apart from me, I'd say that's dedication, but to the school it isn't. They don't even fund my trips, I have to use my own money to get there and back. My school doesn't encourage individuality, they barely even encourage fun.

omg exactly the same as me! i feel **** because of people and the teachers thinking im not taking it seriously

LightningRider
13-10-09, 13:00
And that presents why sometimes School can be a :cen: (man I'm using that a lot today)

I don't get why some schools just stick you in to learn, and when you're done with that, you've got the options that you don't want, because what you wanted, isn't taught. My school goes about having classes for every subject even if you don't want to, so the child can excel, they don't bring us down, they even go about giving tips to nudge us in the right direction.

School is about learning, and the fact is, sometimes I don't even see the learning Factor. All you do is listen to what the teacher says, and you're to do everything else yourself. If you're gonna learn, you're gonna need help. School is 50/50 share, not a 100 share of the work to you.

Eh, I'm probably going off-topic here. End rant. :)

scoopy_loopy
13-10-09, 14:46
I didnt really "like" school either, but I did enjoy the lessons themselves. Particuarly learning foreign languages (Esp. French. I used to delude myself into thinking I was getting a "well rounded, classical education of old") and my English class (Which was more like philosophy and literature) :D

TRfan23
13-10-09, 16:16
Funny when kids go on about how boring school is, and teachers tell you, you have to learn this stuff. Yes it may not relate to the stuff you want to do when you leave, but it helps a bit.
Teachers never mention that learning stuff exercises your brain, the more you use it the less it's likely to age. Just like exercising your body, so you don't get fat ;)

School was always boring for me until YR 10 lol. That's when I tried to do more then I usually would or could :) How much I loved the coursework :D Especially English ;)
It wasn't until late yr 10 I wanted to know everything lol.

woody543
13-10-09, 16:46
I hate school. I guess I have a reason to hate it because it's a place where I feel unsafe because of my mental health problems. I like the education and learning, but what I can't stand is the actual place and people inside it. .

This is my argument, I personally appriciate the fact that I am learning, and the education, the problem with school is the whole lifestyle surrounding it, the people and so on, it can lead to alot of mental health issues, such as depression, stress, anxiety, various other complexes.

It's only recently that I've started to hate school. The reason is that I know all the things I need to know, I'm voluntarily going back to school, I don't need to be there. I'm choosing to further my education. I'm even doing six hours on a Saturday to take a course in Higher Drama because my school doesn't teach it, and that's not including the total of 9 hours I spend on a train to get there and back (it's held in a different city). What I hate about school is that my teachers say that I'm not taking school seriously and that I need to buck up my act when, in my opinion, I'm doing quite well, but they're just putting me down. No one else from my entire county is taking time out of their personal life to do school on a Saturday apart from me, I'd say that's dedication, but to the school it isn't. They don't even fund my trips, I have to use my own money to get there and back. My school doesn't encourage individuality, they barely even encourage fun. They don't encourage creative subjects. They only have one Music teacher in the whole school and two Art teachers. I was extremely lucky that I got to do Drama there: it only ran for two years and then they dropped the subject. My school encourages boys to become builders and girls to become hairdressers. There's no ambition there at all in my opinion. When I bring up that I do Drama in my own time, they always give me the old, "So you're putting Drama in front of everything else?". Of course I am. I want to do Drama when I leave school. But do they encourage me to do it? Not at all.

I know how you feel alot of teachers and schools seem to discourage any aspiration, sometimes they do it as a scaremonger technique but it can cause phsycological harm.

adventurerLara
13-10-09, 19:01
I hate school. I guess I have a reason to hate it because it's a place where I feel unsafe because of my mental health problems. I like the education and learning, but what I can't stand is the actual place and people inside it.

This is my argument, I personally appriciate the fact that I am learning, and the education, the problem with school is the whole lifestyle surrounding it, the people and so on, it can lead to alot of mental health issues, such as depression, stress, anxiety, various other complexes.

Exactly. I can fully relate to this, as I suffer from an anxiety related mental condition and previously spent a considerable amount of time absent from school because of it. I can say my experiences at school most likely set it off.