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wantafanta
27-11-04, 00:51
Mind you, I am not Greek, but one of my Greek co-workers sent me this email.

WE LIKE BEING GREEK:
Because we have a small, poor country full of people with big hearts.
Because we never visit others empty handed.
Because there is no way to explain to foreigners what is "kapsoura" (burning desire for someone).
Because in Greece family is still something valuable.
Because we always make it, albeit in the last moment.
Because we were slaves for 400 years yet never bring that up as an excuse for our current state.
Because we are everywhere around the planet.
Because "filotimo" (friend of honour, helping someone because it is a shame not to) does not exist in any other language.
Because whenever foreigners cannot find a word, they use one of ours.
Because we spend our bad and low times with our friends and family, not with shrinks.
Because Socrates, Plato and Aristotle were Greek.
Because we invented theatre.
Because we gave birth to Democracy.
Because we discovered logic.
Because we jumpstarted science.
Because we are proud of our culture, not of our wars.
Because when we were building the Parthenon, the others were still sleeping on trees
Because we gave the light to all these leaders who are "striving" for peace by making wars.
Because we have a distinction between Eros (falling in love) and Agapi
(innocent love), while we feel both of them passionately.
Because Eros was a Greek God.
Because we gave the oath "freedom or death".
Because when others used to be clothed with wolf skin we were weaving see-through linen.
Because "Greeks do not fight as heroes, heroes fight like Greeks" (Winston Churchill,1941).
Because we gave our ancient alphabet to the Romans & our medieval alphabet to the Slavs.
Because we are not ashamed to cry.
Because we dance when we are sad.
Because we work to live and do not live to work.
Because 97% of the stars' names are Greek.
Because when you shout "brother or cousin " in the streets everyone turns around.
Because the inside of all our churches are not dark but full of light.
Because our parents do not forget that we exist when we reach 18.
Because when we want to sunbathe, we go to the beach, we don't crawl on grass or jump into fountains.
Because we confront every difficulty with humor.
Because the Olympic games were born in Greece.
Because, with our (Olympic) light, we unite the world and pass the message of peace.
Because our sky is blue, not grey.
Because 40% of Oxford dictionary is made up with Greek words.
Because we know what "Kefi" (propensity to fun) means.
Because Homer wrote Iliad 3500 years ago and Hollywood turned it into a movie just recently.

janny_c.
27-11-04, 01:18
Originally posted by wantafanta:
Because we have a small, poor country full of people with big hearts.You'r a poor country? I don't think so. I've been living there for a part of my life and let me tell you, they have a good life, unlike REAL poor countries :rolleyes:


Because we confront every difficulty with humor.More like you yell until people back off http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif
*but in life, yes they do,they don't get stressed much as others do. I like that.

Because whenever foreigners cannot find a word, they use one of ours.Dictionary has a 40% of Greek words? That's the one http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif
Like Latin, their words are hictoric.

I like Greece, they have beautifull see and sights. I've been in Thesaloniki (Solun),and the life there at night...the light...it was a beauty.We were at this one part of a city with statues but on the walls I think, they must have a name for that, it's a really pretty country. I want to go back again.

[ 27. November 2004, 02:27: Message edited by: janny_c. ]

Lemmie
27-11-04, 07:56
Wow, seems living in Greece and being Greek is better than I ever thought. And you get the added bonus of all those Greek and Roman ruins!

Nicky
27-11-04, 09:31
Thanks for that, wantafanta http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Originally posted by wantafanta:

Because there is no way to explain to foreigners what is "kapsoura" (burning desire for someone).
LMAO!!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif Yeah, true :rolleyes: But there are plenty of greek songs that express the 'kapsoura' perfectly, and even someone who doesn't understand greek, can get the feeling :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

ELEN
27-11-04, 13:41
Thanks wantafanta for these http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Because when we were building the Parthenon, the others were still sleeping on trees So true!! :D

Because there is no way to explain to foreigners what is "kapsoura" (burning desire for someone). LOOOLLLLLOOOOLLL!!!

Because "Greeks do not fight as heroes, heroes fight like Greeks" (Winston Churchill,1941). http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Because we dance when we are sad. At "bouzoukia" :D

Because when we want to sunbathe, we go to the beach, we don't crawl on grass or jump into fountains. LMFAO!!!

Because our sky is blue, not grey.Because 40% of Oxford dictionary is made up with Greek words. Aha http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Because Homer wrote Iliad 3500 years ago and Hollywood turned it into a movie just recently. LOOOOLLLLOOOOLL!!!!

nikos
27-11-04, 23:28
thanks wantafanta because you remind us what special things we are about to forget! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif
unfortunately the young people but also some older prefer to act today like "amerikanakia"[young americans they do not know their history, by the meaning of "not classic greek" behavior]! :(
i really thank you from my hart!
Because Homer wrote Iliad 3500 years ago and Hollywood turned it into a movie just recently late is not the problem,tyhe big problem is that they did it without any respect not only historical[ok this period is confused with some mythological elements],but the most important, by "killing",the deepest meanings of what homer wrote!the appearance of the god are allegories,symbolism and the meanings were great and most importand than, how achilles and other heroes fight in the battle! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-1.gif
someone point out the moon, to a moron, using his finger,but the poor moron was looking to the finger!

[ 28. November 2004, 00:34: Message edited by: nikos ]

Olvidarse
28-11-04, 01:40
So "kapsoura" is just a burning desire for someone? That wasn't that difficult. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

wantafanta
28-11-04, 02:10
Originally posted by Olvidarse:
So "kapsoura" is just a burning desire for someone? That wasn't that difficult. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif That's what I was thinking, although I find myself experiencing it less and less as I get older.l :(

PS
I think she left out inventing the Olymipics!

Nicky
28-11-04, 09:15
Originally posted by Olvidarse:
So "kapsoura" is just a burning desire for someone?It's not just that http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif That's only one part of its meaning http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif Like it's mentioned in wantafanta's list, there's no way to explain fully what this word means :D

ELEN
28-11-04, 11:13
It's not just that. There isn't an English translation for the word "kapsoura". As this word, there are many more Greek words that you cannot translate them into English (or any other language) and you use a descriptive method in order to give the meaning of this word.

Eg, the word "palikari". I just opened my dictinary and it said:

1) fighter - which is wrong because fighter in Greek is "mahitis"

2) warrior - which is wrong because warrior in Greek is "polemistis"

3) brave - which is wrong because brave in Greek is "tharaleos"

And to conclude, I searched for "kapsoura" and I didn't find anything :D

ELEN
28-11-04, 11:16
Originally posted by Nicky:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Olvidarse:
So "kapsoura" is just a burning desire for someone?It's not just that http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif That's only one part of its meaning http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif </font>[/QUOTE]For the other part, you can sing:

Θα τα κάψωωωωωωωωωωωωωωωωω τα ρημάδια τα λεφτά μου, για να δω αν την καρδιά μου ή το χρήμα αγαπάς!!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif Υποφέρω και πονώωωωωωωωωωω κι άκρη δεν μπορώ να βρω....!!!!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Nicky
28-11-04, 11:39
Elen http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

Or:

Με κατάντησες αλήηητη... Δεν πηγαίνω πλέον σπίιιιτι... Στα σοκάκια τριγυρίιιζω, μεθυσμένος καιαιαι σε βρίζωωω! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Mazonakis [a very popular Greek singer] rules at the 'kapsoura' field http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

[ 28. November 2004, 12:47: Message edited by: Nicky ]

Neteru
28-11-04, 11:53
Oh dear, the girls are singing now. Me thinks they are making a bid for the Eurovision Song Contest! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif :D

ELEN
28-11-04, 11:55
Net!!!! :D

I wish you could all feel the meaning of the songs http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Δεν πάω πουθενά πουθενά πουθενά, εδώ θα μείνω... Δεν πάω πουθενά, η αγάπη μου είσαι εσύ και δεν σ'αφήνωωωωωω!!!!!

Karas!!! Another kapsoura singer http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Nicky
28-11-04, 11:57
Net, LMAO!!! :D

Not a bad idea you know http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif Will you join us for the backing vocals? :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Neteru
28-11-04, 12:31
Um, yeah, when I've learned to speak Greek http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif

Nicky
28-11-04, 12:43
We can arrange that somehow http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Meanwhile, you could practice the 'oh-ah-ah-oh' (kapsoura sighs) part for the chorus, so that we can add a more dramatic tone to the kapsoura feeling of the song :D

ELEN
28-11-04, 12:48
Originally posted by Nicky:
Meanwhile, you could practice the 'oh-ah-ah-oh' (kapsoura sighs) part for the chorus, so that we can add a more dramatic tone to the kapsoura feeling of the song :D OMG!!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif Ahahahahaha!!!!! :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif Nicky http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif

Neteru
28-11-04, 12:57
LMAO, I see you're requesting 'suggestive moaning'. My my. :D

Nicky
28-11-04, 13:10
Who, moi? I'm such an innocent creature, I meant it all so innocently... you know me! http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/teufel/a022.gif :D

Neteru
28-11-04, 13:26
hehe Oui TU! :D

You're as innocent as I am naive ;) http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-2.gif

Nicky
28-11-04, 13:39
If you say so http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/pillow.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-2.gif

Neteru
28-11-04, 14:01
*giggles like a kid

I like your style: Admit NOTHING

:D