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tlr online
09-11-09, 14:10
Greetings. I'd like to hear your comments on animated gifs which are being posted on our forum and whether we need to curb some of the more larger animated images which are having an impact on thread load times.

Jack Croft
09-11-09, 14:13
I personally have never had a problem with large Gif's but when there are lots on one page then there an issue there.

MiCkiZ88
09-11-09, 14:14
Spam. They are just spam. Spam spam spam. There, I said it. Spam.
(a gif as an responce that is)

*waits for someone to post a gif in this thread*

TRhalloween
09-11-09, 14:14
Well I try not to post too many animated gifs. I think really large HQ gifs should be disallowed.

Jack Croft
09-11-09, 14:15
Well I try not to post too many animated gifs. I think really large HQ gifs should be disallowed.

I agree, the large ones can be annoyign when scrolling down as well.

marla_biggs
09-11-09, 14:16
I haven't seen that many gifs on here lately... I usually just scroll past if they're taking ages to load, they don't really bother me :)

Saphyre
09-11-09, 14:18
My browser tends to freeze (so much so I have to force quit it) up when there are LARGE gifs, smaller ones are fine.

Angel666
09-11-09, 14:20
GIFs wreak havoc on my interwebz. :pi: I am not a fan.

violentblossom
09-11-09, 14:21
I think that as long as people chill out on them, that they should be allowed. So far, everyone has cut down on gif usage, so I don't see an issue. Definately not like there was.

CerebralAssassin
09-11-09, 14:36
I say ditch the gifs.all of em.

Mad Tony
09-11-09, 14:38
Ban anyone who uses them :tmb:

violentblossom
09-11-09, 14:38
Is there anyway, maybe to add something to the forum where people whose computer's can't take them can turn them off? Or maybe we who like them can have a social group where we talk generally and are able to use them??

@ Tony: Is that really necessary? Not all of us who use them abuse them.

Nannonxyay
09-11-09, 14:45
I think I've used about two gifs in this forum and they didn't slow it down for me, but I don't think it's good when a member repeatedly uses them as it really clogs up the forum and it's just spammy. There are also times when it gets to a point when it's just not funny. Larger gifs usually screw the forum up for me, but I think smaller gifs are fine, if they're used scarcely.

Nemo_91
09-11-09, 14:49
I hate them. :o I think they're very annoying.

Your_Envy*
09-11-09, 14:49
Well, the whole page works really slow sometimes, but I don't mind, some of them are hilarious and fit really well in some comments. :D

Catapharact
09-11-09, 14:56
You already know my view on the matter.

Mad Tony
09-11-09, 15:04
@ Tony: Is that really necessary? Not all of us who use them abuse them.Yes it is because they're ridiculously annoying lol.

Punaxe
09-11-09, 15:08
I'm fine with them, really.

Draco
09-11-09, 15:09
GIFs to me are just a method of replying to a thread without really adding to it. This place is already overly spammy, GIFs are just adding more reasons to dislike browsing threads that I know are probably not intellectually stimulating.

If ditching them is not an option, place a limit in the forum settings on image size. Or find a way to be able to turn them off without turning off good images.

Psychos'Я'Us
09-11-09, 15:09
I don't mind them but too many are annoying.

Ada the Mental
09-11-09, 15:10
I think that as long as people chill out on them, that they should be allowed. So far, everyone has cut down on gif usage, so I don't see an issue. Definately not like there was.
I agree with this.
I don't think they should be banned, just that they should be used in moderation. A joke tends to lose its hilarity after the 9657th time.

They really annoy me, though, when they are used to put down another member. It's just petty.

woody543
09-11-09, 15:16
I like them, and don't have a problem, there could be restrictions though, limiting the number allowed to be posted in a day/ in a page of a thread.

Admles
09-11-09, 15:17
Ban them. We don't need them.

Nenya awakens
09-11-09, 15:17
Used in the right context they can be funny, but some people just them them to try and be rude and dismissive to other members as they don't have the balls to say the words.

Lenochka
09-11-09, 15:19
I am using an old ass computer now so they are pretty bad for me. They crash my browser and make loading pages a complete *****. I can't even imagine how they make it for people using even more outdated PC's or dial up.

violentblossom
09-11-09, 15:22
I propose a social group for the gif-ers.

I'm all for being considerate to others who don't like them or have a system who can't tolerate them, but I'd still like to be able to utilize them.

Cochrane
09-11-09, 15:22
Technically speaking, while I've seen some slowdowns related to extremely large GIFs, the ones usually posted here are not an issue. My connection is more than fast enough.

I don't actually like them, though. They clutter up threads without providing any value. So I support banning them.

Chocola teapot
09-11-09, 15:23
If these gifs are causing so many problems, ban them. Simple. :wve:

Cochrane
09-11-09, 15:24
I propose a social group for the gif-ers.

I'm all for being considerate to others who don't like them or have a system who can't tolerate them, but I'd still like to be able to utilize them.

Why, though? What do they add that you can't achieve any other way?

violentblossom
09-11-09, 15:25
Do you people with system's intolerant of gifs have issues loading animated avatars? Just wondering.

Admles
09-11-09, 15:28
Do you people with system's intolerant of gifs have issues loading animated avatars? Just wondering.
Yes :p


4gb RAM and 1gb Video card can't handle it dammit :p

Your_Envy*
09-11-09, 15:29
Do you people with system's intolerant of gifs have issues loading animated avatars? Just wondering.

Then we should ban animated smilies too, which I don't want! :eek: As I said, I don't mind gifs. :D

patriots88888
09-11-09, 15:29
A little bit of common sense and self restraint never hurts. That is all.

Rai
09-11-09, 15:30
My browser does have a problem loading when GIFs are used.

Other than that I don't have a problem with the occasional one, it's when there are multiple GIFs in one thread often quoted over and over that it gets annoying. Also sometimes they're used as a response to someone in a derogative way, which I don't like seeing. I haven't seen them used quite as much just recently.

Keir_Eidos
09-11-09, 15:30
I don't have a problem with them.

I think they bring a bit of colour and occasional chuckles to the forum :)

Agent 47
09-11-09, 15:31
Yes it is because they're ridiculously annoying lol.

totally agree.

for me personally .gifs grow old and tired pretty fast and become less funny with each passing day.

IMO they are also used when basically, and lets be blunt about it.......people have nothing constructive to say.

and consideration should be taken into account towards members with lesser internet service providers :(

violentblossom
09-11-09, 15:31
Why, though? What do they add that you can't achieve any other way?

I express myself just fine either way, I'm just not into completely banning anything that isn't outright disruptive.

Abuse is the issue here. The gifs have been around a very long time (thanks to findme and co.) but people only began to complain recently when the gifs sort of ran amuk.

Phys
09-11-09, 15:32
Get rid of them, they serve no purpose. If its used as an avatar then yeah sure but they have to be under 15kb anyway.

Ada the Mental
09-11-09, 15:35
Abuse is the issue here. The gifs have been around a very long time (thanks to findme and co.) but people only began to complain recently when the gifs sort of ran amuk.

Exactly. Why ban them just because of a fad that will eventually end?

Lenochka
09-11-09, 15:37
Do you people with system's intolerant of gifs have issues loading animated avatars? Just wondering.

No, because those are required to be 15kb or lower. If people started using gif's that small I wouldn't mind xD

larson n natla
09-11-09, 15:38
Always slow down the page for me and I have a good connection, I have to sit and wait for the page to load fully before I can scroll. But people enjoy them so I don't mind.

Quasimodo
09-11-09, 15:42
Do you people with system's intolerant of gifs have issues loading animated avatars? Just wondering.

Animated avatars have a size limit whereas gifs in posts do not.

*laralover*
09-11-09, 15:42
Well i dont have a problem with them but i can see it being annoying if your page starts lagging.

violentblossom
09-11-09, 15:43
Maybe we can make sure that the gifs are of a certain size?

AmericanAssassin
09-11-09, 15:43
I like the GIFs. They make the forums seem more fun. :D

EscondeR
09-11-09, 15:44
Do you people with system's intolerant of gifs have issues loading animated avatars? Just wondering.

Don't overreact - avatars and emoticons are less than 25Kb... Those animated gif-crap piles are almost always over 1Mb :mis:

IMO any animation, used instead of proper reply or emoticon, more than 500Kb is graphical spam and must be banned ASAP. Post them as links if you like (no need of social group, those who have lust for them will click, others avoid like cow poo).

violentblossom
09-11-09, 15:45
Don't overreact - avatars and emoticons are less than 25Kb... Those animated gif-crap piles are almost always over 1Mb :mis:


If anyone has overreacted with their posts, it has been you just now. I'm merely trying to reason and stand up for something I like, thank you. I was only wondering.

Quasimodo
09-11-09, 15:47
Maybe we can make sure that the gifs are of a certain size?

It's already a huge load on the moderating team to check the size of avatars before changing them. AFAIK if gifs were still allowed under a certain size limit, the only way to check them to enforce the rule would be manually, like with avatars. Enforcing size limits on images in screenshot and art threads doesn't have that problem because there's only so many kb you can squeeze into a 800x600jpg, but a gif's true 'size' isn't as easy to pin down just by looking at it.

violentblossom
09-11-09, 15:48
It's already a huge load on the moderating team to check the size of avatars before changing them. AFAIK if gifs were still allowed under a certain size limit, the only way to check them to enforce the rule would be manually, like with avatars. Enforcing size limits on images in screenshot and art threads doesn't have that problem because there's only so many kb you can squeeze into a 800x600jpg, but a gif's true 'size' isn't as easy to pin down just by looking at it.

I was thinking that we as members could check size ourselves, and if our gif is not of proper size, then we can do what EscondeR suggested, and link it.

Quasimodo
09-11-09, 15:49
Who's gonna click a link just to see a Gossip Girl gif, though?

Mad Tony
09-11-09, 15:50
I just think they're silly. Half the time they're just some blond girl rolling her eyes.

maniakatosheto
09-11-09, 15:50
:whi: if we can only use images for signatures....

EscondeR
09-11-09, 15:50
^ :rolleyes: Something tells me that those who crave for this would yell if forum becomes slow/glitchy/irresponsive first :mis:



Rae, I have no intent to offend you, but suggesting to ban animated avatars and smileys is exactly overreacting.
I can understand that you take GIF banishment too personally as you like them, but becoming all jumpy just because of that is not entirely mature, don't you think?
Again, I've just voiced an idea... for people at least to try to control gifs size themselves. Not everyone will do it, I know... I hope you will :)

AmericanAssassin
09-11-09, 15:51
:whi: if we can only use images for signatures....

I've always been thankful that people can't. I hate HUGE signatures pics.

violentblossom
09-11-09, 15:52
Rae, I have no intent to offend you, but suggesting to ban animated avatars and smileys is exactly overreacting.
I can understand that you take GIF banishment too personally as you like them, but becoming all jumpy just because of that is not entirely mature, don't you think?

Alex, I'm not jumpy, lol. Not once have I jumped on anyone or started a fight. I'm reasoning. I don't know why you think I am freaking out when I'm clearly not.

You've just now offended me by saying that I'm being less than mature by stating my opinions in an open minded manner.

Kiss-Bite
09-11-09, 15:56
They don't personally cause me any issues with loading a page. Some of them make me smile sometimes, I would never post any myself, where do you find them?:p I wouldn't miss them but they don't bother me either.

EscondeR
09-11-09, 15:56
Alex, I'm not jumpy, lol. Not once have I jumped on anyone or started a fight. I'm reasoning. I don't know why you think I am freaking out when I'm clearly not.

You've just now offended me by saying that I'm being less than mature by stating my opinions in an open minded manner.

Oh well, can you bear a bit of sarcasm yourself :mis:

C'mon, drop over 500Kb gifs and I'll give you a :hug:

violentblossom
09-11-09, 15:57
Tell me how to check a gif's size, and I'm there.

EscondeR
09-11-09, 16:00
^ Right click, image properties... :) I suppose you get those off some sites, so this is the way.

E.g. your ava is 12 246 bytes.

tombraiderluka
09-11-09, 16:15
Well I have nothing against them, I am against them when they make no sense though.. then again, I sometimes don't make sense as well.

Kiss-Bite
09-11-09, 16:17
I'm assuming this thread has been created to view members opinions on those gifs of film clips, celebrities etc.. being used as emoticons, & not animated avatars, am I right?

EscondeR
09-11-09, 16:20
^ Exactly so.

tombraiderluka
09-11-09, 16:21
I'm assuming this thread has been created to view members opinions on those gifs of film clips, celebrities etc.. being used as emoticons, & not animated avatars, am I right?
Yes you are :)

TRfan23
09-11-09, 16:24
Oh please get rid of them :(

No they're not that bad, my Internet speeds fine. If anything on the net's to annoy me it'll be slow bandwidth, luckily my Internet speeds fine :D

jamieoliver22
09-11-09, 16:24
They are really quite annoying and are often used quite arrogantly in replies. They don't really offer any contribution to a thread. The odd one or two used in conjunction with a joke or something can be funny, but not when loads are posted for no reason.

And also my connection isn't the fastest around and it does impact my load times considerably, especially when lots of them are posted at a time.

And why not put up a vote?

pneboy
09-11-09, 16:26
all i can pretty much say is upgrade from dial-up, im on a ****ty laptop and i have no problems with viewing threads that have animated gifs in

scion05
09-11-09, 16:26
I actually quite like them, I see nothing wrong with them tbh, if some people find them annoying, fine, but they rarely take a long time to load anyway.

Phlip
09-11-09, 16:27
Sorry if this bothers anyone but anyone who uses the internet enough to join a forum or view one for a certain amount of time with interest should really by now have broadband instead of dialup and a decent computer. Gifs are fine.

violentblossom
09-11-09, 16:29
Well, whatever we do.. if gifs are eliminated from the actual forum, might they be kept intact on visitor messages and private ones?

peeves
09-11-09, 16:29
putting gifs gimme a big problem because that slows my internet connection.

Tomb-Dude
09-11-09, 16:36
I like them as they most comments i've seen they add humour. And you can have a laugh with them :D

Cochrane
09-11-09, 16:57
Sorry if this bothers anyone but anyone who uses the internet enough to join a forum or view one for a certain amount of time with interest should really by now have broadband instead of dialup and a decent computer. Gifs are fine.

I used to think the same thing (except about GIFs, which are annoying), but recently that changed. Thanks to mobile internet, I bet there are more than just a few of us who log in using an iPhone or something similar. As 3G coverage is far from universal, though, loading times do matter. Besides, such devices (netbooks as well) have slower CPUs, and oddly enough, I've seen that affect loading times of pages with huge GIFs over and over again.

da tomb raider!
09-11-09, 16:58
I don't believe I've ever had any Internet problems regarding gifs, but I'm not fond of them all the same. Rather annoying, most of them.

toxicraider
09-11-09, 17:11
I think using one just on it's own (as a smiley) is really unnecessary and can be a little annoying, but they don't really impact the loading of pages much for me (I will have left the page by the time they've loaded)
Also I think the humour you get from animations of people pulling silly faces could be achieved with just a still pic.

However if used in a proper context;
Hi guys, look at this short animation I made from TRU, showing some moves/explosions/a glitch
and a suitable size, is fine, so I think banning them is a bit extreme.

Megalith
09-11-09, 17:13
I don't have any loading problems with animated gifs,my problem is that i usually find them tasteless in their sense of humour and also when are being posted as replies in a rude way that implies:"hey idiot,what you said is crap,but because i can't post a counter argument i'll just post a stupid gif trying to ridicule you and make myself look cooler."
I also stand guilty of posting a few ones a couple times in the past,something that now i totally regret.

However i have absolutely no problem with animated avatars.:)

Dennis's Mom
09-11-09, 17:20
I've never experienced technical difficulties loading them, however, over-quoting is a rampant disease here. Not only do folks have to see it once, they have to see it every time someone needs to tell the poster they LOLed. So it's not just the initial use that's an issue. One funny, topical gif suddenly is inserted into every other post.

Minty Mouth
09-11-09, 17:23
GIF's dont slow the loading of the forum for me, at all, the actual images do take a while to load, but I usually ignore them anyway.

Encore
09-11-09, 17:29
Greetings. I'd like to hear your comments on animated gifs which are being posted on our forum and whether we need to curb some of the more larger animated images which are having an impact on thread load times.

Small gifs are ok. Large ones that take long to load, I don't even wait for them to show up properly and just keep reading the rest of the page because they don't affect the loading of the page. However there are probably members with which it does.

I'm not sure if there could be a limit of KB imposed to the gifs in each post but it would be cool since it would not involve banning them, but just a simple way to control them.

I've never experienced technical difficulties loading them, however, over-quoting is a rampant disease here. Not only do folks have to see it once, they have to see it every time someone needs to tell the poster they LOLed. So it's not just the initial use that's an issue. One funny, topical gif suddenly is inserted into every other post.

That's a problem with every image really, and indeed it's EXTREMELY annoying. But the mods have said numerous times for others not to do it but it still happens.

Your_Envy*
09-11-09, 17:31
I don't have any loading problems with animated gifs,my problem is that i usually find them tasteless in their sense of humour and also when are being posted as replies in a rude way that implies:"hey idiot,what you said is crap,but because i can't post a counter argument i'll just post a stupid gif trying to ridicule you and make myself look cooler."
I also stand guilty of posting a few ones a couple times in the past,something that now i totally regret.

However i have absolutely no problem with animated avatars.:)

I usually get this feeling when people use the "wave" smiley in the end of their post (not to say hello or goodbye), it just screams "hey idiot,what you said is crap,but because i can't post a counter argument i'll just post a stupid wave smiley trying to ridicule you and make myself look cooler."

:wve:

:p

Draco
09-11-09, 17:35
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

The only people who will miss GIFs are the people who post them.

Jo269976
09-11-09, 17:38
Oh come now, it's a bit of harmless fun. They slow down my internet connection as much as the ads on here do :rolleyes:

Admles
09-11-09, 17:45
Oh come now, it's a bit of harmless fun. They slow down my internet connection as much as the ads on here do :rolleyes:
Then use Firefox and Adblocker for the ads... I was on this forum for over a year before I knew it had ads lol

DOWN WITH GIFS!

:D

viper456
09-11-09, 17:45
waa waa waa.

If you get rid of GIFs then you should get rid of the standard emoticons too. They basically serve the same purpose.

WAAAAAAAAAA....... ffs.

Reggie
09-11-09, 17:46
I don't post gifs unless you count the smilies. :p
Ergo, it doesn't affect me if they're banned or if there is a crackdown on them. Evenso, I think gifs need to be posted with a bit of responsibility. At the moment, there are too many posted that are unnecessarily big and not necessarily that funny to most people.

Draco
09-11-09, 17:47
waa waa waa.

If you get rid of GIFs then you should get rid of the standard emoticons too. They basically serve the same purpose.

WAAAAAAAAAA....... ffs.

If they fracked up your browsing experience, would you be saying the same thing?

Mad Tony
09-11-09, 17:51
Half of the time these GIFs are nothing the forum emoticons can't convey.

Jo269976
09-11-09, 17:53
Then use Firefox and Adblocker for the ads... I was on this forum for over a year before I knew it had ads lol

DOWN WITH GIFS!

:D

I do use Firefox ;)

tampi
09-11-09, 17:54
Oh!!!! ten pages talking on animated gif's!!

:confused:

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I have no problems with them :o

Agent 47
09-11-09, 18:01
Yes I want to be spiteful too and suck the fun out of everything also.

it's not about being "spiteful" or "sucking the fun out everything". stop being ridiculous.

.gifs are pointless pictures used when you have nothing of merit to say, quick and simple post boost, ergo spam

viper456
09-11-09, 18:05
it's not about being "spiteful" or "sucking the fun out everything". stop being ridiculous.

.gifs are pointless pictures used when you have nothing of merit to say, quick and simple post boost, ergo spam

I'm not being ridiculous, I'm expressing my opinion :) People take life too seriously. Its a freakin' moving picture for christ sake. Move on.

Carbonek_0051
09-11-09, 18:07
My god, wow. Seriously? I read through the thread. Someone said ban people who use them? There are people who don't abuse them. Gifs are on the internet for a reason, they are bound to end up on a forum. I tried to post them as less just to avoid having any issues with anyone. I really don't see an issue if they are used in moderation.

waa waa waa.

If you get rid of GIFs then you should get rid of the standard emoticons too. They basically serve the same purpose.

WAAAAAAAAAA....... ffs.

I'm not being ridiculous, I'm expressing my opinion :) People take life too seriously. Its a freakin' moving picture for christ sake. Move on.
:tmb:

Jack Croft
09-11-09, 18:08
I really Gif's sometimes they are hilarious.

viper456
09-11-09, 18:10
I really Gif's sometimes they are hilarious.

True! Sometimes it even creates the illusion of a personality too :vlol:

Draco
09-11-09, 18:11
Yes I want to be spiteful too and suck the fun out of everything also.

What 'fun'?

Dina_Croft
09-11-09, 18:12
I love gifs...But not big gifs..That's why my gifs are not over 800 kb...

I don't think you have to ban everyone who uses gifs..For the love of god it's a form of an image like jpg,bmp etc.It would be the dummest thing to ban users because of gifs...

I swear if this happens i won't log in to TRF anymore..It would be so boring...

Admles
09-11-09, 18:13
I do use Firefox ;)
You still see ads?

Reggie
09-11-09, 18:17
I really don't see an issue if they are used in moderation.
Exactly so there's nothing spiteful about wanting a little bit more mindfulness when people post.

Minty Mouth
09-11-09, 18:19
Sometimes they can come across as spiteful and demeaning though. But When GIF's like that are posted, the post should be treated the same way as any other post that is mocking or being hurtful to another member on purpose. Not differently specially because a GIF was used. SO the issue here isnt with GIf's.

violentblossom
09-11-09, 18:26
Sometimes they can come across as spiteful and demeaning though. But When GIF's like that are posted, the post should be treated the same way as any other post that is mocking or being hurtful to another member on purpose. Not differently specially because a GIF was used. SO the issue here isnt with GIf's.

Certain smilies are the same way, though. If were thinking that way, then the wave smiley and winking ones can gtfo also.

I see your point, I'm merely stating that people can be nasty without gifs for anyone here who hasn't thought of that.

Jo269976
09-11-09, 18:26
You still see ads?

Evidently.

Admles
09-11-09, 18:27
Evidently.
Weird......

tonyme
09-11-09, 18:36
I hate the GIFs that get posted here. Completely pointless

tranniversary119
09-11-09, 18:39
When I see them they make me laugh. I have no problem whatsoever with them though ;)

Joely-Moley
09-11-09, 18:40
I don't have any problem with them. I don't usually use them myself, but they don't really bother me. Though sometimes when there is like 3 pages of them straight, my browser gets a bit slow.

tonyme
09-11-09, 18:40
I swear if this happens i won't log in to TRF anymore..It would be so boring...

So you only login to TRF for the gifs?

Agent 47
09-11-09, 18:41
I'm not being ridiculous, I'm expressing my opinion :) People take life too seriously. Its a freakin' moving picture for christ sake. Move on.

nothing wrong with stating your opinion, it's just using terms like "spiteful" and "sucking out the fun" were a bit on the over-dramatic side.

i don't seriously believe members who want .gifs banned or members who dislike them are being selfish/spiteful. most of the Against camp are raising good points about slow loading. same argument could also be used with threads loaded with youtube videos :D

Johnnay
09-11-09, 18:44
GIFs to me are really annoying. Please get rid of them and I'm happy

AmericanAssassin
09-11-09, 18:53
Come on guys. The forums without GIFs would be no fun. :(

You're driving me craaaaazy...

http://i35.tinypic.com/29cpa8o.jpg :whi:

Draco
09-11-09, 18:54
Come on guys. The forums without GIFs would be no fun. :(

You're driving me craaaaazy...

http://i35.tinypic.com/29cpa8o.jpg :whi:

So... are you against GIFs then?

AmericanAssassin
09-11-09, 18:56
So... are you against GIFs then?

No, I think they make the forums more enjoyable. :D

Dina_Croft
09-11-09, 19:00
So you only login to TRF for the gifs?

Lol no..

Gifs are my way to express what I have to say with a funny image and cause the ol' razzle dazzle :cln:

:p

AmericanAssassin
09-11-09, 19:07
To be honest, I really don't see why anybody would want more rules on the forums. There are enough as it is. :rolleyes:

God Horus
09-11-09, 19:09
I am totally fine with them! :tmb: Except when there are a ton on one page.

Mona Sax
09-11-09, 19:09
I'm not too fond of gifs. Not in general, mind you, but most of the time they don't convey any meaning at all - in other words, spam. Now, a fitting gif added to a good post, that's a different story entirely.

violentblossom
09-11-09, 19:10
To be honest, I really don't see why anybody would want more rules on the forums. There are enough as it is. :rolleyes:

I know.

Anyway, as I've already said, everyone's already using the gifs much, much less than they used to. The gifs were here quite a bit before alot of us, they just weren't as prevalent as they are now, and even now, they have subsided substantially in the past month or so.

That's about all I've got to say.

Minty Mouth
09-11-09, 19:12
To be honest, I really don't see why anybody would want more rules on the forums. There are enough as it is. :rolleyes:

I agree. If you are offended by gif's, ignore them!

The only valid argument to remove then is bandwidth isues, and as far as I know pages don't actualy take longer to load, just the pictures. This thread has fast become a gif bashing haven, when such things are irrelevant. A few members here annoy me, but I'm not going to request them to be banned and say there are no arguments to keep them here.

Draco
09-11-09, 19:14
I agree. If you are offended by gif's, ignore them!

That right there is the crux of the issue for me, I can't ignore them without ignoring all of the legitimate pictures I actually do want to see.

GIFs add nothing to the forum and none of the ones posted in this thread are helping the 'keep GIFs' case.

Laralissa
09-11-09, 19:17
What Draco said :)

Of course there are exceptions where they're genuinly relevant, but those occasions are rare and more often than not theyre just used as lame comebacks or something else equally stupid involving Britney Spears.

Edit: And I must say the 'smiley argument' is also redundant. Smileys load instantly, if they dont then I worry for your computer capabilities. Gifs can lag the page and take ages to load. Totally different situations.

Jack Croft
09-11-09, 19:18
Why do people have to moan about everything in this world?

I know its a long shot but slowly but surely it seems everything is being too tight and controlled.

Gif's dont bother like 92% of the people on here, I don't see the problem its a part of 'Forum Life' so to speak.

I think theres more important things to worry about than some petty moving image that you would ignore anyway.

What Draco said :)

Of course there are exceptions where they're genuinly relevant, but those occasions are rare and more often than not theyre just used as lame comebacks or something else equally stupid involving Britney Spears.

The good old 'Britney' excuse. *tut tut*

Mona Sax
09-11-09, 19:22
Personally, I find it impossible to ignore gifs, to be honest. Pretty eye-catching, for better or worse.

hera7days
09-11-09, 19:27
Gifs load fine for me, but it'd still be nice to see a limit on their use (and maybe a rule against quoting them) for the sake of people with dialup or whatever.

Also, add me to the list of people who just plain hate them. Well, to be fair, I don't really hate animated gifs in general, just the majority of ones that have been used on these forums. Most of them have seemed rude and dismissive, and half the time I can't even tell exactly what the poster is trying to say.

Now, if there was an animated gif of the teacher from A Christmas Story writing the A+++ etc on the chalkboard, that would be awesome.

Dina_Croft
09-11-09, 19:29
This is not the question of reading or not... This is a question of crapping my bandwidth, as it loads regardless to my wish of reading it, when I want to read other contributing posts on that page :mis:

And that happens only with gifs...:rolleyes:

Jpeg and bmp images are a pain in the ass too in that matter...

Draco
09-11-09, 19:30
Exactly!

Everyone has the right to post and say whatever they want...If you don't like gifs,then don't read their post!Simple.

This is simply not true, if it were there would be no MGC section for the forum.

And how do you choose not to read a GIF?

So what reason is there to keep smileys? They can be even worse if used particularly badly. Heck, why not make a rule against posting exclamation marks, they add nothing either.

There are limits to how many smilies you can post for that reason alone.

EscondeR
09-11-09, 19:31
@ Dina_Croft: Find me a static image of more than 3Mb weight in forum threads (except art section, where it's OK to share your work regardless it's size, besides they post big HQ images as links) :mis:

ThatNorskChick
09-11-09, 19:31
When my lame ass internet is going slow, gifs can ruin my day. But so can PNGs.

ajrich17901
09-11-09, 19:31
There spam, all they do is slow peoples connections down, I say ban all gifs.

Tony9595
09-11-09, 19:32
Get rid of them, they serve no purpose. If its used as an avatar then yeah sure but they have to be under 15kb anyway.
Definitely :tmb:

I just think they're silly. Half the time they're just some blond girl rolling her eyes.

Yeah, completely pointless.

So you only login to TRF for the gifs?
I thought the same, if gifs are so important you can always find places that host them. You want gifs? Watch them there...

Dina_Croft
09-11-09, 19:33
And how do you choose not to read a GIF?


Exactly!
then don't read their post!

We read...then we reply...:mis:

Laralissa
09-11-09, 19:35
Well, that's irrelevant :-\. The limit on Smileys is crazily large anyway.

How is it irrelivant? Somebody was just saying 'if gifs are gonna be banned then why not smilies' so its totally relevant.

Either way, they are two completely different cases. Gifs can majorly slow down peoples connections. Images and smileys have nowhere near the same effect, unless theyve gone completely out of control.

Carbonek_0051
09-11-09, 19:35
I thought the same, if gifs are so important you can always find places that host them. You want gifs? Watch them there...

That's the thing, other forums allow gifs. They are part of the internet, they are bound to end up on forums.

"Getting rid of them" is just adding to the many rules here, do we really need anymore?

Jack Croft
09-11-09, 19:36
That's the thing, other forums allow gifs. They are part of the internet, they are bound to end up on forums.

"Getting rid of them" is just adding to the many rules here, do we really need anymore?

Exactly we dont need more rule here it already to controllin, Avatars anyone?

Dina_Croft
09-11-09, 19:37
That's the thing, other forums allow gifs. They are part of the internet, they are bound to end up on forums.

"Getting rid of them" is just adding to the many rules here, do we really need anymore?

In fact in other forums they have a special thread where they post gifs and do gifs for others...Kinda like a technical suport thread...

Minty Mouth
09-11-09, 19:38
How is it irrelivant? Somebody was just saying 'if gifs are gonna be banned then why not smilies' so its totally relevant.

Either way, they are two completely different cases. Gifs can majorly slow down peoples connections. Images and smileys have nowhere near the same effect, unless theyve gone completely out of control.

Just because it relates to smiley's doesnt mean its relevant to the point I was making. Sure, there is a limit on how many you can post in one reply, but that doesn't affect that they can be spam. A response of

"Hi :D"

is just the same as:

"Hi :D :D :D ;)"

Or even

"Hi

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd273/MintyMouth/1251192251_scrubs_slap.gif"

The slapping was highly irrelevant, but it is the first GIF I found.

Laralissa
09-11-09, 19:40
Minty, your post would make total sense if it wasnt for the fact that the gif still hasnt loaded properly, and the smileys clearly have fewer bytes than the gif.

Laralissa
09-11-09, 19:45
It wouldnt be a flame war if people weren't taking it so personally. People just need to learn to discuss it in a mature manner, without resorting to insulting.

Its fairly obvious they slow down peoples connections and thats reason enough to limit them, but theres not only that. Lets be honest, more often than not, people only use gifs to be sarcastic or demeaning. When do you genuinly need to post a gif of a girl screaming or some dumb blonde rolling her eyes? You dont. You could reply using words (foreign concept to some, I know) but unfortunately a lot of people choose not to.

Minty Mouth
09-11-09, 19:45
Just Because you don't want to lose your precious Gifs.

I dont even post them, at all really. I only ever post one or two, and they are usually happy GIF's, not mean ones. Like I said earlier:

Sometimes they can come across as spiteful and demeaning though. But When GIF's like that are posted, the post should be treated the same way as any other post that is mocking or being hurtful to another member on purpose. Not differently, specially because a GIF was used. So the issue here isnt with GIf's, rather with posters

Laralissa
09-11-09, 19:46
Your avatar is a gif

It's also the same amount of bytes as a lot of the other non-gif avatars :) Infact case in point, compare mine and Mintys avatar sizes/bytes.

violentblossom
09-11-09, 19:47
I'm never demeaning with my gifs. I only use them to joke around. Not everyone uses gifs for the worst reasons possible.

Jo269976
09-11-09, 19:48
So, wait. GIF's used in a post which convey some type of meaning, thought, emotion or hold some significance are classified as spam...

But 'forum games' aren't? :rolleyes:

EscondeR
09-11-09, 19:53
Post them HERE (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=159190) then - can be easily avoided at least... just like game threads :mis: which are discussed to be reduced/separated BTW.

A birdie sang to me that this thread will end with cleaning up spam soon...

violentblossom
09-11-09, 19:53
So, wait. GIF's used in a post which convey some type of meaning, thought, emotion or hold some significance are classified as spam...

But 'forum games' aren't? :rolleyes:

Good point. Forum games don't take time to load, though, is what will be said in response to that.

ThatNorskChick
09-11-09, 19:55
To add on to what I said earlier, I don't necessarily have a problem with how people use them. Sometimes they make me laugh, sometimes they can be lame. If you're gonna use them in a demeaning way then hell, do it! Let the world know what a jerk you are! :p

But don't post a million in a row for everyday of your life so that you slowly eat away at my precious internet.

]{eith
09-11-09, 19:55
I think a set limit on the size would be good - like gifs can't be over a certain size. Maybe that would put an end to this senseless war. :p

violentblossom
09-11-09, 19:56
But don't post a million in a row for everyday of your life so that you slowly eat away at my precious internet.

"I drink your internet! I drink it up!" :pi:

Obscure quote much?

viper456
09-11-09, 19:56
I'm never demeaning with my gifs. I only use them to joke around. Not everyone uses gifs for the worst reasons possible.

Exactly. I rarely use them but they are funny! They actually make me laugh and I kinda picture people reacting like that towards the post...

Not really :/ Laralissa has a point, its under 15K

Still a gif.


So, wait. GIF's used in a post which convey some type of meaning, thought, emotion or hold some significance are classified as spam...

But 'forum games' aren't? :rolleyes:

Apparently so.


I feel like some of you want to suck all of the fun out of the forums. GIFs should be here to stay. :(

Its like when TR went over to next gen machines and people complain and we end up with 10 ****ing ports...WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD PEOPLE!! :vlol:!

Laralissa
09-11-09, 19:58
Tom, you are totally missing the point. As long as gifs/images etc are kept under a certain size then its all good fun. It when millions of people start posting senseless gifs that have 40,000 bytes a go that it starts hacking people off. Im not against gifs themselves, just the situations in which theyre used. I thought that was plainly obvious, but it seems I should have broken it down for you.

You can argue that my avatar is a gif till the cows come home, but fact is its still under 10,000 bytes and actually a lot smaller than most of the avatars here :)

viper456
09-11-09, 20:00
Still a gif.

You are totally missing the point. As long as gifs/images etc are kept under a certain size then its all good fun. It when millions of people start posting senseless gifs that have 40,000 bytes a go that it starts hacking people off. Im not against gifs themselves, just the situations in which theyre used. I thought that was plainly obvious, but it seems I should have broken it down for you.

You are missing the point actually. If.They.Are.Banned.You.Can't.Make.Them.A.Certain.S ize.Since.They.Don't.Exist.:(

viper456
09-11-09, 20:08
Regulations can burn. WHY does everything have to be so restricted?!
What Draco said :)

Of course there are exceptions where they're genuinly relevant, but those occasions are rare and more often than not theyre just used as lame comebacks or something else equally stupid involving Britney Spears.

Edit: And I must say the 'smiley argument' is also redundant. Smileys load instantly, if they dont then I worry for your computer capabilities. Gifs can lag the page and take ages to load. Totally different situations.



And Draco wants gifs gone. And you kinda agreed with him by saying that.

^ Exactly. Just the same I and many others suggested :mis: But who bothers reading when their precioussss gifs are in danger :rolleyes:



I will quote you too EscondeR and you can read my post too.

EscondeR
09-11-09, 20:10
There's no way anybody could remember all the forums rules. There are new ones all the time! :rolleyes:

THAT cake is a lie!

Being overdramatic are we?

Majortity of the posts I have read here said to ban the gifs all together. There have been a few that have said that they should be used in moderation (myself included), but majority do want them banned altogether.

Not more than you :wve:

I guess it would better be a simple poll with 4 options:


Ban gifs
Restrict size to xxx Kb and use in moderation
leave it as is
Penguins!


:p

Do you need it?

AmericanAssassin
09-11-09, 20:11
Yes, I demand a poll. :mis:

Only problem being, Polls don't take the sanity of the voters into account :p

'Tis true. :pi:

Tony9595
09-11-09, 20:11
Penguins!



:wve:
What if you replace gifs with penguins? They're both useless and meaningless.

EscondeR
09-11-09, 20:15
Nate, remember, we are talking here not about ALL gifs, but about "large gifs containing clips/movie scenes/etc which are used instead of emoticons"

Tommy123
09-11-09, 20:16
I personally have never had a problem so its fine

Draco
09-11-09, 20:20
We read...then we reply...:mis:

Perhaps you should start with your own advice.

Nannonxyay
09-11-09, 20:22
I don't mind gifs with movie clips because sometimes it can be relevant to the thread and quite amusing, but sometimes people do overdo it a bit. I would just say we should restrict the size of the gifs because sometimes it clogs up the forum and I think we should restrict the ammount of gifs people post. I have no problem with gifs, just as long as people don't overdo it and keep them within reasonable size.

takamotosan
09-11-09, 20:24
I like them. They make me laugh. It's just annoying when it takes me 800 years to scroll down the page because every post has one, or people keep quoting it without changing it to a link.

tampi
09-11-09, 20:24
And Chuck Norris gif's???:(

Minty Mouth
09-11-09, 20:24
If there were to be a size restraint put on them....how small are we talking?

Tony9595
09-11-09, 20:25
Something like 15 Kb would be amazing :vlol:

And Chuck Norris gif's???:(
aww :hug:

Mad Tony
09-11-09, 20:31
@ EscondeR: By you editing my post just now, you took the fun out of the forums. That's what banning GIFs would do. ;)So I take it these forums were never fun before these GIFs started popping up everywhere (which was less than a year ago I believe)?

And yet your join date says you've been here for over 2 and a half years. These forums must've already been fun to keep you coming back here.

AmericanAssassin
09-11-09, 20:33
So I take it these forums were never fun before these GIFs started popping up everywhere (which was less than a year ago I believe)?

And yet your join date says you've been here for over 2 and a half years. These forums must've already been fun to keep you coming back here.

No, they were fun before, but their addition to the forums has made it more fun. I don't think we need to downgrade the forums...

And, on a side note, I've been here for exactly three years (when adding in my old username). :D

Laralissa
09-11-09, 20:33
^ Exactly, Mad Tony. We coped perfectly fine before, I dont see why everyone is making a fuss about the suggestion of slight moderation now. Surely people can express themselves in other ways than posting gifs...

Mad Tony
09-11-09, 20:35
It does, you just aren't seeing it.Not really.

How can a country have GIFs? The internet has GIFs. The internet belongs to no one.

@Thomas: Do you even have the game yet? Because I have :mis:

Lavinder
09-11-09, 20:37
GIF's are sometimes funny - but for people with slow internet they may become annoying or a hindrance.

Just imagine, your browser has to loads this many pictures :

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_001.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_002.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_003.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_004.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_005.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_006.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_007.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_008.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_009.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_010.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_011.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_012.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_013.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_014.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_015.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_016.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_017.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785_018.gif

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/lavinder/testing_16785.gif

Draco
09-11-09, 20:41
That's the thing, other forums allow gifs. They are part of the internet, they are bound to end up on forums.

Porn is allowed on other forums. It is part of the internet.

So why don't we allow it here?

Exactly we dont need more rule here it already to controllin, Avatars anyone?

The amount of rules that already exist should have no bearing on whether or not new ones are made.

In fact in other forums they have a special thread where they post gifs and do gifs for others...Kinda like a technical suport thread...

This is TRF, not those other forums.

I'd Love to see draco reply to someone with a Gif.

You can't talk to GIFers, they really aren't ever saying anything. GIFing is a lazy way to post without making a point in my opinion.

Again we come to the issue of loading the images, which is not what this thread is about any more. That is the only valid reason to ban them from the forum. But like I posted in my first reply here, now it is just a mess.

I'm sure there are other valid reasons to ban them, but yes the fact they gum up the works is enough reason for me to want the problem to go away.

I'm never demeaning with my gifs. I only use them to joke around. Not everyone uses gifs for the worst reasons possible.

Oddly this statement reminded me of gun control arguments:

I'm never threatening with my guns. I only use them to protect myself and others. Not everyone uses guns for the worst reasons possible.

I'm not really replying to you Rae, I just thought the statement was a bit universal.

So, wait. GIF's used in a post which convey some type of meaning, thought, emotion or hold some significance are classified as spam...

Has there ever even been one of those on TRF?

But 'forum games' aren't? :rolleyes:

I consider those spam.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad56/Dina_Croft/1zzypz.gif

Had nothing to say there eh?

{eith;4153278']I think a set limit on the size would be good - like gifs can't be over a certain size. Maybe that would put an end to this senseless war. :p

As far as I'm aware, the forum software should be able to limit how big an image that is posted is. I wonder why it hasn't already been done tbh.

Regulations can burn. WHY does everything have to be so restricted?!

Not everything is, but I've said similar things in the past about TRF.

And Draco wants gifs gone. And you kinda agreed with him by saying that.

GIFs to me are just a method of replying to a thread without really adding to it. This place is already overly spammy, GIFs are just adding more reasons to dislike browsing threads that I know are probably not intellectually stimulating.

If ditching them is not an option, place a limit in the forum settings on image size. Or find a way to be able to turn them off without turning off good images.

Where did I say that?

I can't believe so many people don't find these pathetic GIFs annoying.

We can't all be so enlightened.

Laralissa
09-11-09, 20:44
Draco's post basically summed it all up for me :) It makes complete sense.

Not banning them altogether, but maybe enforcing some moderation on size and use. Can't really get more fair than that...

Beans-Bot
09-11-09, 20:48
I generally don't mind them. :) Although maybe there should be a cap of some sort per user, like maybe only three a day or something, if that.

@MadTony : Do you have to shoehorn politics into every thread you post in? :rolleyes:

AmericanAssassin
09-11-09, 20:50
Not banning them altogether, but maybe enforcing some moderation on size and use. Can't really get more fair than that...

And who's going to moderate that? I highly doubt the moderators are going to want to check every GIF file...

Laralissa
09-11-09, 20:51
And who's going to moderate that? I highly doubt the moderators are going to want to check every GIF file...

With any luck the people posting them will be considerate enough to do it themselves :pi:

EmeraldFields
09-11-09, 20:51
This whole argument is ridiculous!:vlol:

I say keep the gifs.:D

AmericanAssassin
09-11-09, 20:52
With any luck the people posting them will be considerate enough to do it themselves :pi:

The avatar rules have been the same for ages and people can't seem to figure that out. :vlol:

Laralissa
09-11-09, 20:53
I know, and thats still beyond me aswell - doesnt mean I wont fight for a good cause though :p

EmeraldFields
09-11-09, 20:54
Gifs are mostly used in celebrity threads where the people there like them, so I don't see the problem.

ajrich17901
09-11-09, 21:02
They are really quite annoying and are often used quite arrogantly in replies. They don't really offer any contribution to a thread. The odd one or two used in conjunction with a joke or something can be funny, but not when loads are posted for no reason.

And also my connection isn't the fastest around and it does impact my load times considerably, especially when lots of them are posted at a time.

And why not put up a vote?
This would have been better then a simple discussion:tmb: I think a poll should be added.
Also you pretty much summed up my feelings on gifs so woot.

Lavinder
09-11-09, 21:19
I hate the fact that people are like.. OMG GIFS ... MOVING IMAGES.. WOW. It's not like they've not been around for years and years.

TRhalloween
09-11-09, 21:33
I bet the people who thought GIFs are annoying are the people who thought "lol" was annoying 5 years ago.

Mad Tony
09-11-09, 21:43
I bet the people who thought GIFs are annoying are the people who thought "lol" was annoying 5 years ago.There's a big difference between 3 letters and GIFs.

Gifs are mostly used in celebrity threads where the people there like them, so I don't see the problem.But they're used everywhere though.

EscondeR
09-11-09, 21:43
Now let's be mature enough to simply state our opinion about

Large animated GIFs containing clips/movie scenes and used instead of emoticons

Not:

any GIFs
smileys
avatars
other forms of nitpicking


Don't render the thread into a spam fest, please.

Thank you.

Agent 47
09-11-09, 21:45
I bet the people who thought GIFs are annoying are the people who thought "lol" was annoying 5 years ago.

what makes you say that? i use lol on MSN. not an issue for me :D

jackles
09-11-09, 21:46
Greetings. I'd like to hear your comments on animated gifs which are being posted on our forum and whether we need to curb some of the more larger animated images which are having an impact on thread load times.



Lets look at the inital post again.

Hmmm no mention of banning....just to 'curb' some of the larger images that kill some members bandwidth, rather like I guess people keep images to a sensible size for the same reason.

It isn't about stifling people's gif freedoms but more about being considerate to those who find them for whatever reason a pain.

tombraiderluka
09-11-09, 21:59
Lets look at the inital post again.

Hmmm no mention of banning....just to 'curb' some of the larger images that kill some members bandwidth, rather like I guess people keep images to a sensible size for the same reason.

It isn't about stifling people's gif freedoms but more about being considerate to those who find them for whatever reason a pain.
I somehow imagined a question mark at the end of the sentence, dunno why. Like should we do that. Well as I said if it does something bad to the forum, and I see it does than people shouldn't use them. If it's said that they shouldn't be used as much and that they should be smaller in size I think people will respect that :)

Dark Lugia 2
09-11-09, 22:04
If they slow down peoples loading times then its sensible to put restrictions on them imo. I dont look at the gif's, so whatever's better for everyone else.

Legend 4ever
09-11-09, 22:10
I like some, but some are really annoying.

Mad Tony
09-11-09, 22:20
There should be a vote on whether to a) ban them completely, b) place restrictions or c) let things go on like they are now.

tombraiderluka
09-11-09, 22:21
There should be a vote on whether to a) ban them completely, b) place restrictions or c) let things go on like they are now.
Why should they be banned completely? I don't understand why you're so against them xD

toughraid3r37
09-11-09, 22:22
I like animated gifs :D. Just not really big ones cuz they take forever to load on the screen.

EscondeR
09-11-09, 22:24
Guys, don't start again, there is no reason in repeating the same several times.

Mad Tony
09-11-09, 22:28
Why should they be banned completely? I don't understand why you're so against them xDI said that should be the options. One of the extremes being banning them and the other extreme being not doing anything.

I've already said why I think they should be banned on here.

EmeraldFields
09-11-09, 22:42
Can't we just put this to a vote already? :p

Romantics Inc.
09-11-09, 22:43
Never had a problem with them :)

Catracoth
09-11-09, 22:43
As long as they aren't huge and aren't posted constantly, I don't have a problem with them; they don't slow things down for me.

Johnnay
09-11-09, 22:51
I said that should be the options. One of the extremes being banning them and the other extreme being not doing anything.

I've already said why I think they should be banned on here.

coz they kill my iPod Touch

Simple. on mobile devices GIFS kill the Touch

miss.haggard
09-11-09, 23:20
I have no problem with them in moderation, you dont have to reply to every single post with a .gif, the smileys on here are better than most forums, take advantage of them!

Minty Mouth
09-11-09, 23:22
coz they kill my iPod Touch

Simple. on mobile devices GIFS kill the Touch

They work fine on mine, Sure I cant watch them properly, but the pages load fine :confused:

Trigger_happy
09-11-09, 23:40
I love gifs! They're nearly always so much more effective then actual words. Really big ones might be annoying though- maybe a size restriction, like with pictures?

Banning them is a silly idea- what next- using different fonts or posting pictures?

Paddy
10-11-09, 00:39
Used in the right context they can be funny, but some people just them them to try and be rude and dismissive to other members as they don't have the balls to say the words.

:tmb: agree with this actually.

Big Matt
10-11-09, 01:25
Animated gifs or pngs don't bother me because my hardware is new and fast (although I do understand having to deal with the greedy little things when using slower stuff). If they disappeared it wouldn't bother me either. I don't have any use for them. I don't even use the happy face gizmos. If my writing can't stand on its own and coherently convey my thoughts, it's time to stop posting and go to bed.

rowanlim
10-11-09, 03:49
A limit on gifs would be nice, since it does affect the loading speed for some members...I also think unless absolutely necessary/unavoidable, we should express our thoughts/replies with words rather than pictures. That should be our main mode of communication, IMO.

Melonie Tomb Raider
10-11-09, 04:22
It really doesn't bother me either way. If people were incessantly spamming them maybe, but everyone seems to be pretty self controlled with it. :)

touchthesky
10-11-09, 09:16
I dont mind as long as the thread isnt kinda:

that sucks
*gif*
omg
*gif*
:P
*gif*

:o

Admles
10-11-09, 09:30
Lets have a trial banning, no more for the rest of the month :D

Drone
10-11-09, 09:49
probably gifs wouldn't had been that bad if:

1. they hadn't showed celebs, ugly topless males, fat females, cats, dumb blondes, idiotic tv shows

2. they hadn't been 10 Mb in size

Paddy
10-11-09, 09:53
Banning members for using them is a bit ridiculous, that means I should be for ever using one gif and it was a wrestling one lol.

MiCkiZ88
10-11-09, 09:54
Lmao, I have to laugh at the over reactions from both sides. ''Move on with the times''
''Ban them and anyone who uses them!''

Mona Sax had an excellent post about them. Gifs in a good post (just to express the opinion more clearly) are fine, as long as they aren't in everysingle post, whilst posts that are just a gif are spam. And don't tell me people haven't done that here? Posting a gif and someone replying to the gif with another bloody gif going ''oh no you didn't!''

That is spam.

Smilies and small animated avatars (under the size limit) don't really take much time to load, but large gifs in posts and signatures.. They take ages to load, thus slowing down the thread loading time when you just want to read other posts or look at other pictures.

tidusffxwakka
10-11-09, 10:11
Lmao, I have to laugh at the over reactions from both sides. ''Move on with the times''
''Ban them and anyone who uses them!''

Mona Sax had an excellent post about them. Gifs in a good post (just to express the opinion more clearly) are fine, as long as they aren't in everysingle post, whilst posts that are just a gif are spam. And don't tell me people haven't done that here? Posting a gif and someone replying to the gif with another bloody gif going ''oh no you didn't!''

That is spam.

Smilies and small animated avatars (under the size limit) don't really take much time to load, but large gifs in posts and signatures.. They take ages to load, thus slowing down the thread loading time when you just want to read other posts or look at other pictures.

i agree completely.

Hermina94
10-11-09, 10:36
Nope,I don't think gifs are annoying or ridiculous at all :D In fact I love them :):)
http://i35.tinypic.com/21buqoo.gif
EDIT:And if posting gifs would be a bannable thing on TRF,then I'd be banned a long time ago :D

Saphyre
10-11-09, 10:49
Banning people just for using them would be a step too far I think. However, it definitely needs to have some form of regulation! Some gifs are so big that my browers freeze up and I have an up-to-date computer and internet. Gifs like the one hermina just posted are fine though I think. Its just those MASSIVE ones.

EscondeR
10-11-09, 10:56
Folks, remember this is not Open Chat. Please stick to opinions rather than chatting.

QFE not gonna work here.

MattTR
10-11-09, 11:14
Gif's personally never give me aproblem, but if other people are having issues I say cut back. :wve:

Paperdoll
10-11-09, 11:17
*sigh*

I basically agree with Micki. I don't see harm in gifs but when it gets to the point where you have AN ENTIRE page filled with nothing but gifs... too much? Personally I can thank both a good PC and internet connection, but even then, there can be a bit slow loading times due to that. It's abuse and spam and also lack of consideration.

Although a full ban would be just plain stupid IMO. This is a forum, not a dictatorship. At least I'd like to think that way.

As with everything, moderation is the key.

EscondeR
10-11-09, 11:22
^ Sometimes not only slowdowns count, but traffic used for crap :)

Drone
10-11-09, 11:35
^ that's right Alex :) Mostly those who can't tell bits from bytes have the best connection

marla_biggs
10-11-09, 13:01
I hope they don't get banned. I think most people on here are smart enough to use them in moderation. How many have actually been posted in the past couple of days? like four?

LightningRider
10-11-09, 13:26
Can't we have an anything that links to gif must not load option in this forum? :confused:

TRULuverzz
10-11-09, 14:20
i don't have a roblem with gifs, however making use of them for greetings or how do you do's and anything like that is a little spammish to me, so im in the middle

tlr online
12-11-09, 16:27
Thank you kindly for your comments. I'm back from vacation tomorrow and I'll be collecting your comments and suggestions and discussing with Moderation how we proceed. Certainly gifs that exceed reasonable sizes will not be permitted here anymore. Modertation will crunch some numbers and we'll try and come up with a happy medium which keeps most of you smiling and having fun.

Thanks again for your input. :wve:

Carbonek_0051
12-11-09, 16:29
How exactly is the moderation going to be taken care of?:) Or is that still being thought out?:o

EDIT: Just read it again, and you said you'd be discussing it. Ok got ya.:p

tomblover
12-11-09, 16:31
Whenever the .gif hoes post any .gifs I don't experience any slowdown... Keep them, I say. :p

Marianna12
12-11-09, 17:01
I'm fine with them, unless they're huge or too many. A poll would be nice though:tmb:

igonge
12-11-09, 17:37
I don't really mind gifs. But too many on a page at once makes my internet go whoopah :tea:

This has to be the strictest forum ever lol. But It's very efficient and keeps everything neat and tidy.

Encore
12-11-09, 17:54
Thank you kindly for your comments. I'm back from vacation tomorrow and I'll be collecting your comments and suggestions and discussing with Moderation how we proceed. Certainly gifs that exceed reasonable sizes will not be permitted here anymore. Modertation will crunch some numbers and we'll try and come up with a happy medium which keeps most of you smiling and having fun.

Thanks again for your input. :wve:

Sound good to me. :tmb:

Dina_Croft
12-11-09, 18:03
Certainly gifs that exceed reasonable sizes will not be permitted here anymore.


Like how much?800kb?

EscondeR
12-11-09, 18:11
^ Have you actually read the post saying:
Modertation will crunch some numbers and we'll try and come up with a happy medium which keeps most of you smiling and having fun.


Don't worry - you will be informed :D

violentblossom
12-11-09, 18:16
This has to be the strictest forum ever lol. But It's very efficient and keeps everything neat and tidy.

Looks like it's getting that way.

EscondeR
12-11-09, 18:22
^ Lies. Never was, never will be. In fact it's even more lenient than necessary judging by some (not present here right now) members' behaviour. But that's my personal POV, don't refer to it as the official forum policy! I know some will try :mis:

violentblossom
12-11-09, 18:24
^ Lies. Never was, never will be. In fact it's even more lenient than necessary judging by some (not present here right now) members' behaviour. But that's my personal POV, don't refer to it as the official forum policy! I know some will try :mis:

We do have rules out the wazoo. Can't deny that.

EscondeR
12-11-09, 18:30
^ Examples please.


BTW, I guess some thinking with wazoo, need wazoo oriented rules.

:p

violentblossom
12-11-09, 18:32
*shrug* You know what our rules are, mod-man.

Seems like it's very easy to get in trouble here lately.

NemesisX13X
12-11-09, 18:58
They're annoying when they're overused.

Minty Mouth
12-11-09, 19:12
*shrug* You know what our rules are, mod-man.

Seems like it's very easy to get in trouble here lately.

Just let it roll VB, Just let it roll.

Draco
12-11-09, 19:14
It's been awhile since I got in trouble... so it can't be all that easy.

NemesisxAngelus
12-11-09, 19:14
No slow loading here.