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Johnnay
19-01-10, 00:55
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big_picture/2010/01/after-the-nbc-latenight-bloodbath-what-is-conan-obriens-future.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/01/18/2010-01-18_im_with_coco_as_haggling_continues_.html

http://www.kansascity.com/238/story/1691791.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/18/conan-obrien-im-with-coco_n_427142.html

like i hear about this and a lot of people are against Jay Leno because of his shows slots at Prime time TV and all(im not American so yeah) but then my dad who has seen his shows tells me that Leno always BS's about crap.

it seems that everyone likes O Brien, i dont know the guy anyway:)

so who do you like better, and does anyone plan to protest in support of O Brien.

discuss:D

NemesisxAngelus
19-01-10, 00:55
Leno ftw.

Johnnay
19-01-10, 01:01
ive never seen any of those shows so i cant tell whos good and whos not

even shows like Rove Live here in Australia i hardly watch

TRenTIs
19-01-10, 02:12
^ I'm not surprised considering it's been cancelled.

Phoebe_Croft
19-01-10, 02:13
^^ It was? I thought they just ended it. Anyways, Letterman ftw! :D

irjudd
19-01-10, 02:18
Unfunny old guys trying to be funny late a night FTL.

knightgames
19-01-10, 02:22
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big_picture/2010/01/after-the-nbc-latenight-bloodbath-what-is-conan-obriens-future.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/01/18/2010-01-18_im_with_coco_as_haggling_continues_.html

http://www.kansascity.com/238/story/1691791.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/18/conan-obrien-im-with-coco_n_427142.html

like i hear about this and a lot of people are against Jay Leno because of his shows slots at Prime time TV and all(im not American so yeah) but then my dad who has seen his shows tells me that Leno always BS's about crap.

it seems that everyone likes O Brien, i dont know the guy anyway:)

so who do you like better, and does anyone plan to protest in support of O Brien.

discuss:D

Jay Leno once sold me cold french fries when he worked at the local McDonalds. So I hope Conan wins.

Squibbly
19-01-10, 02:36
Conan is more funny than Leno, I think. Jay Leno bothers me.

Angel666
19-01-10, 02:37
I'm team Coco. (Conan ;))

elizard_9594
19-01-10, 05:09
I <3 Leno. Grew up watching his stuff since i was little. love Leno, I'm Jaywalking FTW

EmeraldFields
19-01-10, 05:17
Leno>>>

Little-Lara
19-01-10, 05:49
It was fun reading this thread. I was at the Conan studios today, and there was a whole bunch of people on the sidewalks with signs about "Coco" It was pretty exciting.

I like Conan more, but I don't want any of them to get canceled. :o

ThatNorskChick
19-01-10, 06:36
Wasn't Leno supposed to be "retiring" anyway? Pff.

I prefer Conando.

voltz
19-01-10, 07:50
Here's a recent interview Jay had about his deal with NBC on all this.

Jay Leno turned serious on his show to discuss the late-night chaos at NBC, telling viewers that he'd been doubtful about launching a prime-time show but was prevented by NBC from going to another network instead.

Leno, in explaining events from his standpoint, also said Monday that he had told NBC he'd return to the "Tonight" slot only after Conan O'Brien rejected the network's plan to put both men on in late night.

NBC continued negotiations Monday on an exit deal with O'Brien that would clear the way for Leno to reclaim the 11:35 p.m. EST slot occupied by "Tonight," which he hosted for 17 years before turning it over to O'Brien last spring.

The network is ending its prime-time experiment, "The Jay Leno Show," because of low ratings and affiliate station complaints.

When NBC told him they wanted to end his new show, Leno told viewers Monday, he asked to be released from his contract.

"`No, you're still a valuable asset to this company,'" he said the network told him. His reply: "How valuable can I be? You fired me twice."

That was a reference to NBC's decision six years ago to ask him to eventually make way for O'Brien to take over "Tonight," which Leno kept atop the ratings until he left.

He and O'Brien have traded increasingly edgy monologue jokes as NBC tries to extricate itself from its scheduling mess, but Leno told viewers his attitude toward his colleague is unchanged.

"Through all of this, Conan O'Brien has been a gentleman. He's a good guy, I have no animosity toward him. This is all business," Leno said. "You know, folks, if you don't get the ratings, they take you off the air."

Neither of them was a ratings winner, he said, either with "The Jay Leno Show" at 10 p.m. EST or O'Brien's "Tonight."

O'Brien did not immediately respond to a request for comment Monday night.

Leno gave his audience a history lesson, or what alternately might have seemed a skillfully timed effort to repair any damage to Leno's trademark heart-of-gold image before the deal is made official, as soon as Tuesday.

In his recitation, Leno opened with an NBC executive telling him in 2004 that he would have to surrender "Tonight" to O'Brien to keep the gangly, redheaded host of "Late Night" from going to a competitor.

"I said, `Well, I've been No. 1 for 12 years.' They said, `We know that. We don't think you can sustain it,'" Leno recounted the executive telling him. He joked that he asked if he could at least wait until his show fell to No. 2, but agreed to the hand-over plan.

"Don't blame Conan O'Brien. Nice guy, good family guy, great guy. He and I have talked, and not a problem since then," Leno said.

He told NBC he would retire "`just to avoid what happened the last time,'" he recounted with a chuckle.

What's happening now at NBC turned out to be reminiscent of the contest between Leno and David Letterman to win "Tonight" after Johnny Carson's retirement and NBC's similar dithering at the time.

With a plan in place for Leno to leave "Tonight" in May 2009, before his NBC contract ended, he would be prevented from starting at another network for at least a year, Leno said. He asked to be freed but NBC refused, instead suggesting that Leno could do well with a prime-time show that the network acknowledged would get "killed" against first-run episodes of shows like CBS' "CSI" but could get traction against summer reruns.

Leno said he agreed, in part, because it would allow him to keep his staff of about 175 people working. But the network's plan for patience was unraveled by affiliates, who said his low ratings were sinking their local late newscasts, which the show precedes.

O'Brien had his own ratings woes, which Leno said pointedly started in summer before they could be blamed on Leno's poor prime-time performance.

"Tonight" with O'Brien is drawing about half of the roughly 5 million viewers Leno attracted as its host, although O'Brien has gotten a significant ratings bump since the network flap started.

When NBC suggested a half-hour show, Leno told the network he wasn't crazy about doing it but said OK. He asked if O'Brien would agree to be moved to midnight and was told yes it was almost guaranteed.

Leno may have been restrained with his comments, but he couldn't resist a hard-edged joke at NBC's expense.

"CBS is now developing a new sitcom about the troubles here at NBC," he said. "It's called `Two Men and a Half-Assed Network.'"

O'Brien let loose on his show Monday, too.

"Last night at the Golden Globes, Julia Roberts said that NBC was in the toilet. NBC was upset and toilets were furious," he said.

mau3genius
19-01-10, 07:50
Craig Ferguson FTW. :pi:

Jedd Fletcher
19-01-10, 09:33
Both guys have their strengths at hosting late night. Jay is the funny old uncle who entertains kids at birthday parties while Conan is the crazy Irish guy who will go up and dance on the bar. NBC is handling this pretty badly, the arrangements they've come up with like pushing the Tonight Show to the next day are pretty unfair to both Jay and Conan. I hope it all works out and Conan finds a good network and a good timeslot, and Jay can do his best with his half an hour.

Johnnay
19-01-10, 09:36
TBH I would love Mad Tonys opinion on this
ok I am not rude or anything but I'm curious

Little-Lara
21-01-10, 23:19
OH GOD NOoooo. :( :( :(

I'm gonna miss him so much. His show is the #1 thing I looked forward to every night. I'm glad he reached a settlement deal, but we won't see him. I hope he makes another show.

NBC: Conan O'Brien reaches $45M exit deal
By FRAZIER MOORE, AP Television Writer Thu Jan 21, 12:22 PM PST

Conan O'Brien bid NBC good riddance Thursday in a $45 million deal for his exit from "The Tonight Show," but his immediate future in television remains a question mark.

The contentious two-week battle that would allow NBC to unseat O'Brien and move Jay Leno back to the program he hosted for 17 years, comes less than eight months after O'Brien took the "Tonight" throne from Leno.

Under the deal, O'Brien will get more than $33 million, NBC said. The rest will go to his 200-strong staff in severance.

What happens next for O'Brien?......

"the rest of the article" (http://tv.yahoo.com/the-tonight-show-with-conan-o-39-brien/show/44070/news/tv-news.en.ap.org/tv-news.en.ap.org-20100121-us_tv_leno_o_brien)

MiCkiZ88
21-01-10, 23:28
Bugger... I loved Conan :/

MyRaider4Life
21-01-10, 23:57
^ I'm not surprised considering it's been cancelled.

It wasn't cancelled, Rove just didn't want to do the show anymore and he wanted to go onto bigger and better things. (America)

Paddy
22-01-10, 00:16
I prefer Letterman to both.

voltz
22-01-10, 02:19
I miss Carson. :(

Capt. Murphy
22-01-10, 04:32
I don't know if it's been said yet (I haven't read anything really) but I have a feeling Conan will go to FOX.

Leno.... I'm just waiting for him to have a guest on with wild animals and he (stupidly; "Hey kitty kitty!" *Leno pats a Lion on the head too hard) rubs one the wrong way and is horribly mauled.:(

I hardly ever get to watch any of their shows (it's during my working hours), but whatever happens... I guess I couldn't care any less either way. :D

calico25
22-01-10, 08:42
NBC is such a joke. They have no clue how to run their programming and putting their eggs in Leno's basket is a mistake. They thought enough of Conan a few years ago to promise him the tonight show when Fox offered Conan huge money to jump ship and they invested hundreds of millions into the tonight show with Conan and Lenos new show only to throw it all away 7 months later.

Conan should jump to Fox where I think he will be enormously successful because Fox will actually allow him to have his old late night style in a prime time slot unlike NBC, which quickly made him tone down his act for the tonight show. plus Fox can actually give him an audience lead in unlike NBC...

remote91
22-01-10, 12:15
Really, Johnnay? So many exclamation marks in one thread title?

Johnnay
22-01-10, 12:17
Really, Johnnay? So many exclamation marks in one thread title?

And. Your Point

nightwishgirl84
22-01-10, 12:18
Team coco!

remote91
22-01-10, 12:18
And. Your Point
You're from Australia, right?

Johnnay
22-01-10, 12:23
why do you care

remote91
22-01-10, 12:25
why do you careThat didn't answer my question, Mr 'tude.

Johnnay
23-01-10, 07:42
That didn't answer my question, Mr 'tude.

excuse me but dont spam

anyways Whats the future for Conan o Brien. is he moving to FOX, thats what i heard

Little-Lara
23-01-10, 09:15
That last episode was so emotional. When Conan's voice started chocking up, I started crying. I am gonna miss watching him on t.v. so much. :( I'm still teary eyed. His last thing that he said, it was the most important thing in the whole show, he thanked the fans in such a way, it was so memorable. He basically left by giving everyone a piece of advice. It was such a moment, I think you all should watch it. I'm not gonna ruin it, but it was one of those sweet moments you'll find on t.v. :(

I'll be missing you kind, uncynical, sweet, sexy, lovable, adorable, cute, funny, goofy, talented Coco. :o :hug: :wve:

remote91
23-01-10, 11:58
excuse me but dont spam

anyways Whats the future for Conan o Brien. is he moving to FOX, thats what i heard
Well excuse me but I was just wondering if you were a native English speaker... and if so then shame on you.

I'm a Letterman guy myself.

mike-d
23-01-10, 12:47
OMG I can't believe Conan lost :(

I HATE Jay Leno. He is NOT funny :( That's basically the requirement for Late Night and he doesn't have it :mad:

Conan O'Brien is a person who humiliates himself just to be funny and I think that shows tons of dedication.

I look forward to seeing him on FOX :)