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SamReeves
01-02-10, 17:53
Here we go folks. Get ready for more stay the course with Barack Hussein Obama!

White House Proposes $3.8 Trillion Budget (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107204575038733246595218.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories)

The Bush tax cuts will expire, thus meaning business owners will unlikely be able to hire any new employees. The fuel corporations will be levied with new taxes, which will be passed onto you at the gas pump. The house Democrats are once again left to their own devices to "cut spending," even though they have shown opposition to doing so. Interest rates will likely soar under this plan, so it's probably a good time to get your money into the bank. Your capital gains tax will rise to 20%, so forget about going back into investments. All this while unemployment remains high. Yes BO, you're 1/4 though your only term, and you've done a good job of creating more damage for the next President to clean up!

Chocola teapot
01-02-10, 17:55
How... Upsetting.

It's not often such a large amount of money is spent.

interstellardave
01-02-10, 17:57
All recent presidents, Republicans included, have been fiscally irresponsible... but this just takes the cake!

Mad Tony
01-02-10, 18:16
All recent presidents, Republicans included, have been fiscally irresponsible... but this just takes the cake!I agree.

We Brits share your pain America. We also have an incompetent socialist as head of state who is borrowing way more than the country can afford and levying tax after tax on the populace.

Reggie
01-02-10, 18:18
3.8 trillion?

*wonders if Obama has now officially jumped the shark*

Jack Croft
01-02-10, 18:29
I agree.

We Brits share your pain America. We also have an incompetent socialist as head of state who is borrowing way more than the country can afford and levying tax after tax on the populace.

:tmb:

Mad Tony
01-02-10, 18:38
I swear previous US budgets always used to be around $2 trillion.

Bongo Fury
01-02-10, 18:40
well, the usd is tanking quite hard today. not unrelated i'm sure.

interstellardave
01-02-10, 19:19
It's so bad it almost seems like a deliberate plan to take down the US economy...

Mad Tony
01-02-10, 20:25
It's so bad it almost seems like a deliberate plan to take down the US economy...I don't think it's deliberate, I just think the people in the Obama administration are really really stupid.

patriots88888
01-02-10, 21:06
It's like the Republican National Convention in here! :tea:

Worship it... :D

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1_c0rO1eDuA/SwnqGyad9wI/AAAAAAAAFJc/263sH1ltuMA/s400/Republican-Elephant.jpg

Mad Tony
01-02-10, 21:10
It's like the Republican National Convention in here! :tea:How does that work? Not everything is black and white. Opposing or criticizing Obama does not automatically make you a Republican.

patriots88888
01-02-10, 21:14
How does that work? Not everything is black and white. Opposing or criticizing Obama does not automatically make you a Republican.

Dude, lighten up some. I was commenting on the fact that most, if not all posters so far in this thread back the Republican Party, to a certain extent anyways.

Spong
01-02-10, 21:33
We also have an incompetent socialist as head of state who is borrowing way more than the country can afford and levying tax after tax on the populace.

It's only gonna get worse when that smarmy-faced toff Cameron wins the next election.

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Bongo Fury
01-02-10, 21:36
It's like the Republican National Convention in here! :tea:

Worship it... :D

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1_c0rO1eDuA/SwnqGyad9wI/AAAAAAAAFJc/263sH1ltuMA/s400/Republican-Elephant.jpg

no maple leaf in that logo bro

Mad Tony
01-02-10, 21:42
Dude, lighten up some. I was commenting on the fact that most, if not all posters so far in this thread back the Republican Party, to a certain extent anyways.As far as I know only Sam and I back the Republican party. I don't think Dave does.

It's only gonna get worse when that smarmy-faced toff Cameron wins the next election.

[/off-topic]Not really. There are other people I'd rather have running the party (like William Hague) but Cameron is certainly better than Gordon Brown. Gordon Brown's only interested in funneling public money into Labour's most supportive constituencies and waging a dirty class war against the middle and upper classes, particularly the former.

Toff? So what if he comes from the aristocracy? In all fairness he can't help what kind of class he was born into, just like the lower class can't help the type of background they were born into either. A lot of people seem to be trying to use David Cameron's background against him, and for the most part it seems to be accepted. However, if anyone dared use somebody's working class background against them they'd be scolded for it.

I really don't see how social background affects somebody's ability to govern.

SamReeves
01-02-10, 22:04
Well,…Obama has peeved plenty of independent voters, many of whom flocked to Scott Brown in MA. I think the party of big liberal politics might be winding down!

So yea, maybe it's time for a Republican National Convention. :whi:

silver_wolf
01-02-10, 22:23
Republicans need to stop *****ing and actually try to work with the administration instead of doing everything they can to go against it. Democrats need to stop crying racism whenever they are questioned and take off the rose-tinted glasses when viewing Obama. The American people need to STFU with the Tea Party bull****, 'cause it does not help. It makes us seem like a bunch of screaming babies, which, honestly, is what politics is. Obama is a politician; anyone who thought things would be different with him is an idiot. And anyone who thinks things will be different or better with any other politician is also an idiot.

patriots88888
01-02-10, 22:56
Honestly, I do not care. As I've said before, I'm an equal opportunity hater, Repubs, Dems, and Independents alike. They're all the same to me. What I posted was in a joking manner, not any different from those members who do the same when directing theirs to those they do not care for. Yet, they become oh so defensive about it. Because of that, I see much hypocrisy within certain members in this thread.

Lighten up some. It wasn't anything remotely offensive or directed at any one specific member. If you can dish it out, you can handle taking it, no? Or is it strictly a one way street with certain members?

EmeraldFields
01-02-10, 23:26
Or is it strictly a one way street with certain members?

I take it you didn't get the memo?;)

:p

patriots88888
01-02-10, 23:36
I take it you didn't get the memo?;)

:p

Well, if you can't laugh, joke, and make fun of your own political party at times, what can you laugh about? The arrogance I've seen lately is mighty thick, that is all.

And if it makes the bleeding heart Repubs feel any better, here's a pic for ya all...

http://breathittonline.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ElephantDonkeyFight-150x170.jpg

Like how it's getting kicked in the ass. How bloody appropriate. :D

interstellardave
02-02-10, 00:38
As far as I know only Sam and I back the Republican party. I don't think Dave does.

True. I'm registered as an independent... although I'm a libertarian at heart. I see good in both parties, to some extent, and plenty of bad too. I certainly think that, at this point in US history, it's safer to have the Congress controlled by the opposition party at all times. IMO roadblocks to "getting things done" is the lesser of all evils, when what the government gets done is often wrong for the people!

Ward Dragon
02-02-10, 00:41
True. I'm registered as an independent... although I'm a libertarian at heart. I see good in both parties, to some extent, and plenty of bad too. I certainly think that, at this point in US history, it's safer to have the Congress controlled by the opposition party at all times. IMO roadblocks to "getting things done" is the lesser of all evils, when what the government gets done is often wrong for the people!

I agree with this completely :tmb: Although I feel compelled to add that for nearly a year Obama had a super-majority in both parts of Congress (not to mention a supreme court that could easily rule his way on any given day) and he still hasn't managed to get anything done (aside from continuing a few of Bush's policies). Now that the Republicans have gotten that one seat and broken the super-majority, I think that's pretty much it for the healthcare bill or anything else Obama wants to do.

SamReeves
02-02-10, 00:49
Republicans need to stop *****ing and actually try to work with the administration instead of doing everything they can to go against it. Democrats need to stop crying racism whenever they are questioned and take off the rose-tinted glasses when viewing Obama. The American people need to STFU with the Tea Party bull****, 'cause it does not help. It makes us seem like a bunch of screaming babies, which, honestly, is what politics is. Obama is a politician; anyone who thought things would be different with him is an idiot. And anyone who thinks things will be different or better with any other politician is also an idiot.

Er, so everyone's an idiot now? :whi:

In any case, I see no reason to support Obama's policies nor any reason for any Republican to do so. The man is totally inept at capitalism and understanding it.

AmericanAssassin
02-02-10, 01:03
I'm failing to see any reasoning behind what Obama does. :rolleyes: Ugh! Obama, why'd you have to prove them right? :p It's hard for me to say it, but Obama has done nothing to help Americans. Nothing important, at least. All I see is evidence that he's putting us in a bigger hole. :(

LaraLuvrrr
02-02-10, 03:19
W/e if Obama doesnt do a good job then 2012 is coming up. Now most presidents are usually reelected to serve 2 terms but w/e

the way I see it the U.S. is completely lost... its just plain chaos. We dont have a clue how to create jobs who to tax and how to deal with climate change and all that crap we're having an identity crisis as a nation imo

patriots88888
02-02-10, 03:29
W/e if Obama doesnt do a good job then 2012 is coming up. Now most presidents are usually reelected to serve 2 terms but w/e

the way I see it the U.S. is completely lost... its just plain chaos. We dont have a clue how to create jobs who to tax and how to deal with climate change and all that crap we're having an identity crisis as a nation imo

Yup, It's been quite a while since either the Repubs or Dems had prezzies in office for 3 consecutive terms. I believe you have to go all the way back to FDR for that. It's usually the way it works. We embrace the welcomed change then get sick of them and kick em to the curb. Nothing surprising there really. :D

Ward Dragon
02-02-10, 03:33
Yup, It's been quite a while since either the Repubs or Dems had prezzies in office for 3 consecutive terms. I believe you have to go all the way back to FDR for that. It's usually the way it works. We embrace the welcomed change then get sick of them and kick em to the curb. Nothing surprising there really. :D

Yeah, after FDR had four terms Congress put in term limits for the president so no president can have more than two terms now (technically two and a half if he's vice president and takes over for a year or two before getting elected, but that's not usual).

Draco
02-02-10, 03:46
If America truly wanted change, Ron Paul would be President.

LaraLuvrrr
02-02-10, 03:52
If America truly wanted change, Ron Paul would be President.

lol that is so true! But no they just want change from the party that was in office for the previous two terms. It's like ping pong every 8 years between the republicans and democrats. I knew Obama was full of **** though. When someone's that charismatic and having people saying he's an angel from God and promising EVERYTHING to everyone you know there's a problem.

I wish there was a government that actually worked completely with and for the majority of the population.

Legend 4ever
02-02-10, 03:58
So, what is the story with the recent fish crisis?

patriots88888
02-02-10, 04:05
Yeah, after FDR had four terms Congress put in term limits for the president so no president can have more than two terms now (technically two and a half if he's vice president and takes over for a year or two before getting elected, but that's not usual).

Yup, but I also meant... I'll have to illustrate it, can't put it into words very easily...

After FDR...
Harry S. Truman (Dem)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (Repub)
John F. Kennedy (Dem)
Lyndon B. Johnson (Dem)
Richard M. Nixon (Repub)
Gerald R. Ford (Repub)
James Carter (Dem)
Ronald Reagan (Repub)
George H. W. Bush (Repub)
William J. Clinton (Dem)
George W. Bush (Repub)
Barack Obama (Dem)

Neither party since FDR has had a president in office for more than 2 consecutive terms or 8 years consecutively, which was what I was trying to convey in my previous post. The trend says (to me anyways) that we grow tired of one and replace with the other.

Ward Dragon
02-02-10, 04:12
Neither party since FDR has had a president in office for more than 2 consecutive terms or 8 years consecutively, which was what I was trying to convey in my previous post. The trend says (to me anyways) that we grow tired of one and replace with the other.

Ah, gotcha. I thought you were referring to individual presidents but you actually meant the parties. In this case I agree. LBJ and Ford were vice presidents and took over in the middle of a term. It looks like from Reagan to Bush Sr. is the only recent case where someone from the same party was flat-out elected and the same party was in office for three full consecutive terms. Guess the people didn't get bored of Reagan :pi: Bush Sr., however :whi:

Draco
02-02-10, 04:14
Neither party since FDR has had a president in office for more than 2 consecutive terms or 8 years consecutively, which was what I was trying to convey in my previous post. The trend says (to me anyways) that we grow tired of one and replace with the other.

And also keep in mind that the majority of those consecutives is a VP taking over the big chair.

Mad Tony
02-02-10, 13:06
If America truly wanted change, Ron Paul would be President.Yeah well as far as I know most Americans aren't isolationist anarcho-capitalists stuck in the 19th century, so thankfully Ron Paul never got elected.