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Kelly Craftman
31-10-11, 19:37
Whats the difference between Rated R and LOUD anyway ? they both sound similar to me :p and I like both of them..
Rated R is more dark RnB and Loud is more up beat, happy and pop IMO. :p
ShadyCroft
31-10-11, 21:00
Rated R is more dark RnB and Loud is more up beat, happy and pop IMO. :p
Ah thanks Kelly! but to be honest, they both sound similar to me, both Rihanna-ish happy and upbeat and likable...I mean S&M is rockin', but so is Hard, and then you have California King Bed which is sorta nice and slow but with a beat and then you have Te Amo or Russian Roulette.
^ For me the albums are like each side of the same coin. They come together to make one album for me they share style that much, but RR is the darker foreboding side and Loud is the upbeat, happier side.
Rated R is a lot more listenable than Loud IMO, it's consistent and it was so freaking dark. That was the era when Rihanna's vocals started to improve as well
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Rated R is a lot more listenable than Loud IMO, it's consistent and it was so freaking dark. That was the era when Rihanna's vocals started to improve as well
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Thats the hair that suits her the best!
Kelly Craftman
01-11-11, 14:07
Thats the hair that suits her the best!
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltoy7kfm8G1qgui7u.gif
CiaKonwerski
01-11-11, 15:56
LOVE IT. :D
http://www.trouveztout.org/Maroon-5/images/maroon-5-Rihanna.jpg
Weemanply109
01-11-11, 19:31
Thats the hair that suits her the best!
Ditto.
I've came to the conclusion that Rated R is her best era. I don't like the LOUD era that much.
I also like the Rated R era better...
Shark_Blade
02-11-11, 01:15
Are you guys kidding? I like Loud era the best.
The songs are great and her red hair was just gorgeous.
http://i.imgur.com/tYl5K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7jUbY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QQNFz.jpg (http://imgur.com/QQNFz)
Rated R is fine, but I only listen when I'm feeling blue.
Rated R is a faaaaarrrrr better album, but I think she definitely looked best in the LOUD era.
Shark_Blade
02-11-11, 04:49
Well let's see then..
Awesome songs from Rated R:
- Russian Roulette
- Rude Boy
- Wait Your Turn
Awesome songs from Loud:
- S&M
- S&M Remix feat. Britney Spears
- Cheers (Drink to That)
- Only Girl (In the World)
- California King Bed
- Love the Way You Lie (Part II)
:ohn:
I question your taste :pi: ..... :p
Awesome songs from Rated R:
- Russian Roulette
- Rude Boy
- Wait Your Turn
Fire Bomb? Te Amo? Cold Case Love? :confused: Hell, freakin' Mad House was a great tune. Personally, I love Loud but it's a collection of songs. Rated R is an album.
Shark_Blade
02-11-11, 10:37
I admit Mad House was great but it's like 1 minute long.
The fact that you didn't include 'Te Amo', 'Fire Bomb', 'Rockstar 101', 'Stupid In Love', hell, basically the entire album makes your statement invalid :p
But really, there isn't a song on Rated R I wouldn't like.
When it comes to Loud, I really enjoy Only Girl, S&M, What's My Name?, Fading, CKB, Man Down, Skin, LTWYL p.II but the rest of the album consists of fillers.
;5794055']The fact that you didn't include 'Te Amo', 'Fire Bomb', 'Rockstar 101', 'Stupid In Love', hell, basically the entire album makes your statement invalid :p
Meh, didn't feel like naming them all. Photographs is the weakest song on the album IMO (not surprising, it has the stench of will.i.am all over it)
Meh, didn't feel like naming them all. Photographs is the weakest song on the album IMO (not surprising, it has the stench of will.i.am all over it)My post was actually directed to Shark_Blade ;) You named the highlights of the album :) I agree about the Photographs, I hate will.i.am's part :(
Lol Sorry bout that. I thought you meant my statement :D
Kelly Craftman
02-11-11, 15:46
Rated R:
Mad House
Wait Your Turn
Hard
Stupid In Love
Russian Roulette
Photographs
Te Amo
Cold Case Love
The Last Song
Loud:
S&M
Faded
Only Girl (In The World)
California King Bed
Man Down
Skin
Love The Way You Lie (Part 2)
larson n natla
02-11-11, 15:53
Firebomb > Most of her previous work.
But I love Skin. :pi:
Dark Lugia 2
02-11-11, 17:00
I think Firebomb is so overrated. :p Its a good song though.
Rated R and Loud are like ying and yang for me. Both are amazing albums and they are almost the complete opposite of each other in terms of the look and sound.
Are you guys kidding? I like Loud era the best.
The songs are great and her red hair was just gorgeous.
http://i.imgur.com/tYl5K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7jUbY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QQNFz.jpg (http://imgur.com/QQNFz)
Rated R is fine, but I only listen when I'm feeling blue.
yes. that is all.
Rated R
Mad House
Wait Your Turn
Hard
Stupid In Love
Russian Roulette
Fire Bomb
Rude Boy
Cold Case Love
The Last Song
Loud
S&M (feat. Britney Spears)
What's My Name?
Fading
Only Girl (In The World)
California King Bed
Love the Way You Lie, Part II
Has Talk That Talk leaked? :confused: Because there's a site that says they have it, but I'm assuming it's a virus xD They said this is the track list:
1. Ladies and Gentleman
2. Talk That Talk (ft. Nicki Minaj)
3. Come Around Girl
4. Underworld
5. Bermuda Love Triangle (ft. J. Cole)
6. My Shadow
7. Devil Wears Prada
8. O.T.T. (Over The Top) (ft. Big Sean)
9. Me, Tonight
10. Dance, Dance (ft. Cheryl Cole)
11. Realest
12. Walk That Walk
Bonus Tracks
13. We Found Love (ft. Calvin Harris)
14. Say It True
15. Kiss
But why would We Found Love be a bonus track? hmm.. :/
We Found Love wouldn't be a bonus track when it is the lead single. Definitely fake.
Also, Dance Dance is a rumoured collab with Cheryl Cole but it's for Cole's album not Rihanna's.
Edit: Is she really doing another collab with Nicki Paracite Minaj? I hope not, Raining Men was the worst song on Loud and I'm just sick of seeing her leech off the fame of more successful artists.
We Found Love wouldn't be a bonus track when it is the lead single. Definitely fake.
Also, Dance Dance is a rumoured collab with Cheryl Cole but it's for Cole's album not Rihanna's.
Edit: Is she really doing another collab with Nicki Paracite Minaj? I hope not, Raining Men was the worst song on Loud and I'm just sick of seeing her leech off the fame of more successful artists.
Raining men was not the worst. complicated was.
Raining men was not the worst. complicated was.
Not in my opinion.
Nicki Minaj killed it in that song. Just sayin
Chocola teapot
03-11-11, 10:44
Raining Men is my Jam.
larson n natla
03-11-11, 15:40
We Found Love wouldn't be a bonus track when it is the lead single. Definitely fake.
Also, Dance Dance is a rumoured collab with Cheryl Cole but it's for Cole's album not Rihanna's.
Edit: Is she really doing another collab with Nicki Paracite Minaj? I hope not, Raining Men was the worst song on Loud and I'm just sick of seeing her leech off the fame of more successful artists.
Nicki was the best thing about that song. :p
Funny thing about Nicki Minaj. She's great at features, but she's boring on her own tracks
anniversarytr11
03-11-11, 16:02
Nah Complicated or Skin is the worst song on Loud. imo :pi:
Nicki was the best thing about that song. :p
That may be true, but you can't polish a turd!
Funny thing about Nicki Minaj. She's great at features, but she's boring on her own tracks
That's because she has limited talent to be a solo artist, give her a featuring roll on someone's track and she's fine because there's no time to notice it, give her a full 3-5 min track of just her and she's just dull. Cue death threats :p
larson n natla
03-11-11, 16:21
Nah Complicated or Skin is the worst song on Loud. imo :pi:
:eek:
Fading or Complicated are two void tracks that add nothing to the album in my opinion.
Dark Lugia 2
03-11-11, 19:02
:eek: Skin is amazing
:eek: Skin is amazing
Thats what I was thinking! So sexy! :D
Skin is one of the best songs on the album. Just sayin'
larson n natla
03-11-11, 19:49
My faith in humanity is restored. :p
;5796840']Skin is one of the best songs on the album. Just sayin'
One of the best Rihanna songs ever imho
So, according to a pic RiRi has just posted on FB, we have the final track listing for what must be the delux edition
1. We found love
2. You the one
3. Watchin and Leavin
4. Rock me out
5. Cockiness
6. Talk That Talk
7. Answer
8. Drunk on love
9. Farewell
10. We all want love
11. Saxon
12. Fool in love
13. Where have you been
14. Do ya thang
15. Birthay cake
Kelly Craftman
05-11-11, 16:37
Birthday Cake?!
OMFG. SAXON? AS IN SAXON (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8v5kYyrwFY)???
larson n natla
05-11-11, 19:43
OMFG. SAXON? AS IN SAXON (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8v5kYyrwFY)???
:eek:
I love that song!
(+ The majority of Nicki's past tracks)
OMFG. SAXON? AS IN SAXON (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8v5kYyrwFY)???
:eek:
I love that song!
(+ The majority of Nicki's past tracks)Does that mean she's going to use that song for Talk That Talk!? :yik:
larson n natla
05-11-11, 20:25
;5800349']Does that mean she's going to use that song for Talk That Talk!? :yik:
'Guess who, bitches it's Ri Ri'
I see an opening to a feature. :D
OMFG. SAXON? AS IN SAXON (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8v5kYyrwFY)???
Of course it would be dubstep :rolleyes:
Weemanply109
05-11-11, 23:41
^Dubstep is da new ting, gtfo if u dun lyk it.
EmeraldFields
05-11-11, 23:42
So, according to a pic RiRi has just posted on FB, we have the final track listing for what must be the delux edition
1. We found love
2. You the one
3. Watchin and Leavin
4. Rock me out
5. Cockiness
6. Talk That Talk
7. Answer
8. Drunk on love
9. Farewell
10. We all want love
11. Saxon
12. Fool in love
13. Where have you been
14. Do ya thang
15. Birthay cake
It's actually...
1. You Da One (3:20)
2. Where Have You Been (4:02)
3. We Found Love (3:36)
4. Talk That Talk (3:29)
5. Cockiness (Love It) (2:58)
6. Birthday Cake (1:18)
7. We All Want Love (3:57)
8. Drunk On Love (3:32)
9. Roc Me Out (3:29)
10. Watch n’ Learn (3:31)
11. Farewell (4:16)
12. Red Lipstick (3:37)
13. Do Ya Thang (3:43)
14. Fool In Love (4:15)
Red Lipstick = Saxon
The picture she posted was a working list of songs for the album. Not a final track listing.
It's actually...
1. You Da One (3:20)
2. Where Have You Been (4:02)
3. We Found Love (3:36)
4. Talk That Talk (3:29)
5. Cockiness (Love It) (2:58)
6. Birthday Cake (1:18)
7. We All Want Love (3:57)
8. Drunk On Love (3:32)
9. Roc Me Out (3:29)
10. Watch n’ Learn (3:31)
11. Farewell (4:16)
12. Red Lipstick (3:37)
13. Do Ya Thang (3:43)
14. Fool In Love (4:15)
Red Lipstick = Saxon
The picture she posted was a working list of songs for the album. Not a final track listing.That means they removed 'Answer' from the final tracklist.
EmeraldFields
05-11-11, 23:49
It will probably end up as a bonus track somewhere, since the picture shows that the song was mixed already.
Great.
Any info about the producers who worked on the album? :)
EmeraldFields
05-11-11, 23:58
You Da One (Dr Luke + Cirkut)
Where Have You Been (Calvin Harris + Dr. Luke)
We Found Love (Calvin Harris)
Watch n Learn (HitBoy)
Red Lipstick (Chase & Status)
Stargate & The Dream also produced tracks, we just don't know which ones.
Thank you :D
Wow! She worked with Dr. Luke? Great :jmp:
I can't wait to hear the StarGate-produced tracks though :mis:
It's actually...
1. You Da One (3:20)
2. Where Have You Been (4:02)
3. We Found Love (3:36)
4. Talk That Talk (3:29)
5. Cockiness (Love It) (2:58)
6. Birthday Cake (1:18)
7. We All Want Love (3:57)
8. Drunk On Love (3:32)
9. Roc Me Out (3:29)
10. Watch n’ Learn (3:31)
11. Farewell (4:16)
12. Red Lipstick (3:37)
13. Do Ya Thang (3:43)
14. Fool In Love (4:15)
Red Lipstick = Saxon
The picture she posted was a working list of songs for the album. Not a final track listing.
Where is your source for this? The picture she posted on FB was titled 'TTT Final hours' and the songs were numbered, so I'm taking it to mean it's the official track listing unless you can provide a credible source.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150354929561676.340836.10092511675&type=1
Also, by track listing I meant that we know officially what the songs will be not their play list.
EmeraldFields
06-11-11, 17:50
The list she posted was a list of song she had completed and a list of song she still had yet to record. It's not a final list, but simply a working list of everything she had completed up to that point.
And the list I got was from Jeff, who is an insider when it comes to Gaga material, but he often hears stuff about other artists as well. He was actually the one who leaked Drop Dead Beautiful in full before the rest of Femme Fatale leaked. Go to any Gaga forum and they will tell you Jeff has never been wrong about any info he has shared.
Not to be rude, but considering this was posted by Rihanna as 'the final hours of TTT' I doubt it's still just a working list, So i'll wait for official confirmation rather than some random called Jeff from a GaGa forum. Also, I don't see why Rihanna would be calling a song Saxon this late in the game if it were to be called Red Lipstick on the album. It makes no sense. But I guess we will see, not long till the release now.
I don't know how reliable this source is, but here's the same track listing EmeraldFields posted: http://neonlimelight.com/2011/11/05/rihanna-talk-that-talk-tracklist/
:)
EmeraldFields
06-11-11, 18:16
Not to be rude, but considering this was posted by Rihanna as 'the final hours of TTT' I doubt it's still just a working list, So i'll wait for official confirmation rather than some random called Jeff from a GaGa forum. Also, I don't see why Rihanna would be calling a song Saxon this late in the game if it were to be called Red Lipstick on the album. It makes no sense. But I guess we will see, not long till the release now.
http://i.imgur.com/0dVCj.png
http://twitter.com/#!/RIHANNA
EmeraldFields
06-11-11, 18:22
Yep! :D
I think I'm most excited to hear Birthday Cake, just because the title is so weird. :p
I can't wait for Cockiness (Love It) :cln:
ShadyCroft
07-11-11, 16:59
so when is it gonna be released ?
November 21st :D
Can't wait.
I badly need some new mjuzik :jmp:
This year has been such an expensive one for me, and still more to come including RiRi! I'm glad only Madonna is releasing a new album next year.
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Last year it was What's My Name, this year it's Take Care. Drake returning the favor.
EDIT: The TTT back covers, if anyone's interested.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1m07fOquyQA/Tre3rng6vLI/AAAAAAAAICI/05W87bjrydY/s1600/Rihanna%2B-%2BTalk%2BThat%2BTalk%2B-%2BBack%25281%2529.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-umZxmsBG4uE/Tre2PP6BqLI/AAAAAAAAIBw/3e1MbOxJlug/s1600/Rihanna%2B-%2BTalk%2BThat%2BTalk%2B-%2BBack.jpg
What's your source? I'm pretty sure those are fake, altho they are pretty lovely.
Has anyone seen the photos she's uploaded to her facebook? She's a goddess.
EmeraldFields
08-11-11, 03:15
Those are fake. She also has a song with Jay-Z on it and none of those mention this.
It would be a pity if they are fake, I think they're absolutely awesome!
Especially the deluxe edition back cover! Rated R part II! :jmp: :cln:
Shark_Blade
08-11-11, 06:39
The pics look so oldie style... :/
That delux one is very Madonna!
Found them in this site. (http://encartes.blogspot.com/) :whi: I wasn't entirely convinced that these were real at first either, but the site is reliable and all their album scans are legit, so... :pi:
EmeraldFields
10-11-11, 01:50
FIRST ALBUM REVIEW!
VH1 Album Preview: Rihanna’s Talk That Talk Is The Dirtiest Pop Record Since Madonna’s Erotica
Actually, scratch that. Rihanna‘s new record, Talk That Talk, is the dirtiest “pop” record we have ever heard. We listened to the entirety of the 11-song album, which will hit stores on Monday, November 21, earlier this afternoon here at our Times Square headquarters and can confirm that everyone in attendance left the room with flushed cheeks after experiencing extensive periods of blushing.
Now, this is not to say that Rihanna has gone out and recorded the female As Nasty As They Wanna Be; it’s not simply a sexually-explicit affair (although, at one point during The-Dream produced track “Birthday Cake,” she does proclaim “I wanna f*** you right now”). Rather, Talk That Talk continues the conversation that Rihanna began with her single “S&M” (off Loud) and, if you’ll pardon the Spinal Tap reference, turns it up to 11. Rihanna and her chief partner-in-crime, songwriter Esther Dean (who either wrote or co-wrote at least five songs on the LP), have put together a record that not only oozes sex, but also revolves almost exclusively around it.
Take the album’s fifth track, “Cockiness,” for example. The Bangladesh-produced banger, which sounds like a vintage-era Neptunes jam, begins with Rihanna telling her lover that “I want you to be my sex slave” and contains the refrain “I love it when you eat it.” It doesn’t stop there; in perhaps the album’s most memorable line, Rihanna demands her subject to “Suck my cockiness / Lick my persuasion.” This line, which got all of the attendees in the room we were in to nervously chuckle, is the kind of line that would’ve got Rihanna called in front of Congress if Tipper Gore were still running the PMRC, and the kind of song that would make even Prince‘s famed protagonist “Darling Nikki” squeal.
It’s not just that track, either. On the Stargate-produced “Roc Me Out,” RiRi complains that “You’re taking too long to get my head on the ground / And my feet in the clouds,” before cooing, “I’ve been a bad girl, daddy.” And during “Watch And Learn,” produced by up-and-comer Hit-Boy, she goes to great lengths to detail how she wants it on the bed, the floor, and the couch, before turning the tables and not-so-subtly instructing that “It’s your turn now / Watch and learn now / Watch and learn how.” Trust us, the things she’s teaching in this song certainly aren’t taught in schools (at least not without a permission slip signed by your parents).
All that being said, this album sounds positively MAMMOTH and will no doubt continue Rihanna’s dominance on the pop charts for at least the next year and change. “Where Have You Been,” which was written by Top 40 formula crackers Dr. Luke and Esther Dean and produced by the hit maker du jour Calvin Harris, will almost certainly be Rihanna’s biggest club smash since “Don’t Stop The Music.” The chorus features a sweeping, trance-ish transition that will bowl over dancefloor denizens in clubs all over the world, and the bass in the song is so monstrous (in a good way!) that it will make you want to trade in your factory-installed car speakers for a top-of-the-line sound system. And we’ve gotten six paragraphs deep into this preview without even mentioning Jay-Z’s guest vocals on the album’s fourth song and title track, “Talk That Talk,” which isn’t quite on the level of “Umbrella,” but is a lock for the Billboard Top Ten whenever Def Jam decides to release it as a single.
And “Drunk On Love”? Oh boy, this one is going to please Williamsburg hipsters to their core. It’s built on a foundation of The XX‘s “Intro,” which gives it instant indie cred, but Stargate smartly takes Jamie XX‘s melody line and transforms the beat into something so massive that your iPod earbuds are almost guaranteed to explode.
While Rihanna’s Talk That Talk isn’t a record that you’re going to want to listen to with the kiddies in the room (at least not sans EARMUFFS!), it’s far and away the most cohesive album that she’s recorded to date. It’s not a concept record, per se, but the thematic consistency of this album’s lyrical content—shout out to Esther Dean, a true freak if we’ve ever heard one!— and the epic soundscapes that Stargate, Calvin Harris and crew have created make this, from start to finish, the most aurally satisfying record of the six full-length albums she has released. It’s got at least five or six singles that have a shot at making a huge impact on the charts (“We Found Love” has already hit #1), and when it’s all said and done, should put Rihanna neck-and-neck in the running with Beyoncé for the most successful female solo artist of her era (not to mention, earning her a plaque next to Madonna in the Hall of Fame for All-Time Most Sexually Provocative Female Solo artists).
I can't believe we'll be getting this in a week and a half! :jmp:
The album has leaaaaaaaked! Finna get a link asap.
EmeraldFields
10-11-11, 01:59
For real?
EmeraldFields
10-11-11, 02:01
When you get a link PM me! :D
EmeraldFields
10-11-11, 02:17
I don't want to be a downer, but I don't think it has leaked yet. :pi:
same everyone was saying it did on twitter...
Guys, we're getting another single this friday! God it's so close!!!!
EmeraldFields
10-11-11, 03:36
Ikr? :D
You Da One is the Dr. Luke track! It's supposed to be island-y. I imagine something like WMN.
That VH1 preview got me pumped for this album. It would suck if it leaked, this sounds like it deserves all the first-week sales it could get. I'm most excited about Drunk on Love, the sample alone is freaking epic
L73OLaG4_kA
Kelly Craftman
10-11-11, 13:52
The album preview leaked, I think that might be what there on about.
Juding from the album preview, these are my favourites:
Where Have You Been
We All Want Love
Drunk On Love
Farewell (Firebomb part II :D)
:)
It's now available for pre-order on iTunes and it has a Parental Advisory label. Totally didn't see that one coming...
You Da One premiered this morning. It's quite nice!
:hea::mad::mad:You Da One premiered this morning. It's quite nice!Ur SERIOUS!!??? :jmp::jmp:
Kelly Craftman
11-11-11, 16:39
;5810763']:hea::mad::mad:Ur SERIOUS!!??? :jmp::jmp:
Yep her and Ryan Seacrese (or however he spells his name) premièred it this morning on his radio station
Yep her and Ryan Seacrese (or however he spells his name) premièred it this morning on his radio stationI didn't know that :p Sounds good, I'm so glad Dr. Luke lend her his beats :D
It's also on youtube guys....:p
Click! (http://youtu.be/4XM2Hfmi1n8)
Kelly Craftman
11-11-11, 16:52
I really don't like it :pi:
Dark Lugia 2
11-11-11, 17:35
Love You Da One so far! Gonna listen to the album preview after. Can't wait to buy the album soon!
You Da One is so amazing. It has a fabulous pre-Rated R feeling... oh God, dubstep... it's over. Thankfully, the dubstep part was short and not very obvious. But yeah, what an incredible song. @.@
Chocola teapot
11-11-11, 17:58
This Rihanna Reign just won't let up, as they say.
I will probably love her new album. <3
Kelly Craftman
11-11-11, 18:22
I wish Rihanna would take up some demos, Her demo catalogue is amazing ;_;
I wish Rihanna would take up some demos, Her demo catalogue is amazing ;_;
I wantcho sex~shooah~lehtayyy~ @.@
Kelly Craftman
11-11-11, 18:37
Maybe not that song but Suicide or Black butterflies
James_Rutland
11-11-11, 21:46
I love it. I can tell it's one of those I'm gonna hate after a while though, when it's been played 100000 times on MTV or something.
I love You Da One. :D
Same. It's so catchy! :D
And even better.. it's produced by Dr. Luke. :cln:
you da one is a number one!!! it so deserves it!
you da one is a number one!!! it so deserves it!
Can't wait to see the video. :jmp:
SO EXCITED FOR THIS ALBUM! :yah:
Can't wait to see the video. :jmp:
SO EXCITED FOR THIS ALBUM! :yah:
Me too i had a fangirl scream off with my mom after i heard the song! i heard the snippet for Talk That Talk and died!!
Me too i had a fangirl scream off with my mom after i heard the song! i heard the snippet for Talk That Talk and died!!
I know right?! That's how I am with Ke$ha! :cln: I am waiting to hear the rest of the songs in full.. I don't like snippets, they get me so sad I can't hear more. :(
Don't listen to them then. :D The album is out in about a week anyway, won't be too long before we get to hear the whole thing
So Im actually really late with all the Rihanna news. I thought that We Fould Love was just a single release but jeez!! I didn't not know she was releasing a new album. I just heard You Da One and its so GOOD!!!....By the way I was also on perezhilton.com and he has an album preview there.
Same. It's so catchy! :D
And even better.. it's produced by Dr. Luke. :cln:Yeah, yeah... He's one of my favourite producers, really (the other ones being Benny Blanco, RedOne and StarGate), You Da One has this Ke$ha vibe going on and I <3 it :D
I know right?! That's how I am with Ke$ha! :cln: I am waiting to hear the rest of the songs in full.. I don't like snippets, they get me so sad I can't hear more. :(I hate you!
I saw the photo you posted with her around you like an octopus! :D
Kelly Craftman
12-11-11, 14:25
The song or the album?
The song or the album?
The album. It's amazing! :D
Suck my cockiness, lick my persuasion! OMG! :vlol:
Kelly Craftman
12-11-11, 14:33
Can someone send me a link please :hug:
Is it just me, or does Rihanna release a new album like every 5 minutes? :p
Her stuff is usually good though so I don't really mind :D Can't wait to give this a listen :3
Cockiness has such an interesting sound. I love it :D i love it i love it i love it i love it i love it i love it i love it i love it i love it i love it i love it i love it
Dark Lugia 2
12-11-11, 14:53
Cockiness will be the first song I listen to when this is done! :p
EmeraldFields
12-11-11, 15:03
Where Have You Been is amazing. I hope it's the third single! :cln:
Where Have You Been is amazing. I hope it's the third single! :cln:
Omg, yeeees :jmp: It's so good!
My only complaint, Birthday Cake is clearly a full track, so why the hell does it cut out in the second verse and is stuck right in the middle of the album???
EmeraldFields
12-11-11, 15:13
Yeah, it just fades away in the middle of her singing. WTF is that? :p
Omg, I know. It's so dumb. If they were gonna make it that short they could have atleast made it end properly and not fade out when she's still singing.
Kelly Craftman
12-11-11, 15:26
Maybe someone put the song like that on purpose just in case it did leak? :/
Dark Lugia 2
12-11-11, 15:27
I was thinking the same. What's the point?
Loving Roc Me Out!
EmeraldFields
12-11-11, 15:32
Maybe someone put the song like that on purpose just in case it did leak? :/
That's how long it is on the CD too. :p
Kelly Craftman
12-11-11, 15:33
Oh :L Well that's annoying and pointless. It just shows bad production in my opinion.
Dark Lugia 2
12-11-11, 15:47
Drunk On Love is amazing. :D This album is so good!
Kelly Craftman
12-11-11, 15:49
In my ranking of all of her albums, TTT would be 4th in my list.
EmeraldFields
12-11-11, 15:58
It'll probably change, but for right now...
Rated R
GGGB
TTT
Loud
AGLM
MOTS
My favorite tracks:
You Da One
We Found Love
Where Have You Been
Cockiness
Drunk On Love
Roc Me Out
Kelly Craftman
12-11-11, 16:04
Albums:
Rated R
GGGB
Loud
TTT
AGLM
MOTS
Tracks:
Where Have You Been
We Found Love
Talk That Talk
Cockiness (Love It)
Birthday Cake
Drunk On Love
Albums:
Rated R
GGGB
Loud
TTT
AGLM
MOTS
Tracks:
Where Have You Been
We Found Love
Talk That Talk
Cockiness (Love It)
Birthday Cake
Drunk On LoveOk, Kelly this is scary! You read my mind :eek: :eek:
Kelly Craftman
12-11-11, 16:28
;5812521']Ok, Kelly this is scary! You read my mind :eek: :eek:
We where separated at birth :p
Chocola teapot
12-11-11, 16:39
Like:
You Da One
Where have you been
We Found Love
Love:
Talk That Talk
Roc Me Out
Drunk on Love
Cockiness
Birthday Cake.
The other 3 are boring.
I would rate this album Beneath GGGB and Loud, Above Rated R.
I don't have any other albums.
Lara_Fan_33
12-11-11, 17:25
Can someone PLEASE pm me a link to the album leak? I want to hear it soooo bad :D
larson n natla
12-11-11, 17:36
Sounds like the album is a bit of a disappointment then?
EmeraldFields
12-11-11, 17:39
I wasn't disappointed. It's definitely one of her most cohesive albums as far as sound goes. It has some really strong songs, but I feel like the rest are just good/okay. If she would've spent more time one it, I feel like it could've been one of her best. Definitely an improvement over Loud though. The singles from the album are going to be huge.
CiaKonwerski
12-11-11, 18:18
I really like You Are Da One. A lot of these songs are really good. The only song I have not liked from Rihanna that much was Cheers. The rest I have loves so far. :)
Nenya awakens
12-11-11, 18:43
Does anyone have a link to the Album download please :)
Is it just me, or does Rihanna release a new album like every 5 minutes? :p
Her stuff is usually good though so I don't really mind :D Can't wait to give this a listen :3
She's found the key to continued success. :D I bet all of the other artists out there are super jealous, cause her songs are always huge hits.
I just hate the album cover. She could have done so much better.
EDIT: OMG!! Birthday Cake is a total Bad Romance Wannabe. Lol.
Dark Lugia 2
12-11-11, 19:21
But Birthday Cake sounds nothing like Bad Romance? :confused:
EmeraldFields
12-11-11, 19:32
How does Birthday Cake sound like Bad Romance?
They only sound similar because they both use Hoover Synths.
BrandonFlowers
12-11-11, 19:51
Oh God, You Da One is just dire, couldn't even finish listening to it :(
She's found the key to continued success. :D I bet all of the other artists out there are super jealous, cause her songs are always huge hits.
I just hate the album cover. She could have done so much better.
EDIT: OMG!! Birthday Cake is a total Bad Romance Wannabe. Lol.
But Birthday Cake sounds nothing like Bad Romance? :confused:
How does Birthday Cake sound like Bad Romance?Listen to the synth at the beginning guys, it's almost as if the song samples Bad Romance's instrumental. Lyrically, BR and BC are different though.
So far I really like Where Have You Been! My pussy is popping all over the placeee
Dark Lugia 2
12-11-11, 23:22
Cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake
I just listened to the whole thing and honestly I like it. I just hate how Birthday Cake fades out, Im thinkning its because its maybe an intro thing (sorta like how Xtina does it)? Or maybe it was too dirty? :confused:
i got the album just need the bonus tracks.. anyone got them?
Weemanply109
13-11-11, 03:24
So far I really like Where Have You Been! My pussy is popping all over the placeee
I've been poppin mah pussy to da beat aswell ;)
Can someone be a dear and PM a link to me? :hug:
EmeraldFields
13-11-11, 03:42
;5813069']Listen to the synth at the beginning guys, it's almost as if the song samples Bad Romance's instrumental. Lyrically, BR and BC are different though.
Using Hoover synths ≠ sampling Bad Romance
Using Hoover synths ≠ sampling Bad Romance;5813069']Listen to the synth at the beginning guys, it's almost as if the song samples Bad Romance's instrumental. Lyrically, BR and BC are different though.:p
Kelly Craftman
13-11-11, 10:11
Where have you been is my favourite track on the album. Lets see what the deluxe witll bring :p
Where have you been is my favourite track on the album. Lets see what the deluxe witll bring :p:tmb:
It's soon to be another Rihanna classic like 'Don't Stop The Music' or 'Only Girl'. I'm still a little bit disappointed with 'We Found Love' (the video is better than the song imo :p) but 'Where Have You Been' would be huge! :jmp:
Kelly Craftman
13-11-11, 10:18
I love We found love and then the video came out and I was like 'EWWW' And Now I hate it :p I hope she does releases it :D
Weemanply109
13-11-11, 14:43
WOW. The size of all the tracks are killing my phone. All the tracks from TTT crash my phone. :vlol:
Spotify also has problems with the seeking bar, If I skip a few seconds, it just restarts the song... :rolleyes:
Where Have You Been and Cockiness are my faves. She needs to release WHYB!
I'm still on track 9 but I think I liked everything so far :vlol: especially Drunk on Love
Oh except the Cockiness xD
Dark Lugia 2
13-11-11, 15:05
I have to listen to Birthday Cake twice when listening to the album so it feels like I've listened to a full-length song. T_T It's so good! :p
So I took 2 listens to the album, I must say its a bit weak. It's not a strong pop album as Loud was, I feel like some of the tracks were generic. I do love You Da One, Where have you been, We found love and Cockiness.
Weemanply109
13-11-11, 15:15
^It's not supposed to be a pop album. It's urban, as previously stated by Rihanna, that was what she was aiming for.
Birthday cake will be a full-length song according to one of the producers on Twitter.
http://popaddicts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/BCake_Full.png
Chocola teapot
13-11-11, 15:40
Roc Me Out is definitely my fav.
Oosh. <3
Nenya awakens
13-11-11, 17:33
Where have you been is my favourite track on the album. Lets see what the deluxe witll bring :p
I am completely in love with Where have you been, it's amazing <3
My singles prediction for this album:
*You Da One
*Where Have You Been
*We Found Love
*Drunk On Love
*Roc Me Out
Nenya awakens
13-11-11, 19:56
Ok, who is going to point out the obvious :p
EmeraldFields
13-11-11, 23:58
If I chose the singles...
1. We Found Love
2. You Da One
3. Where Have You Been
4. Talk That Talk
5. Drunk On Love
6. Roc Me Out
Would love it if Cockiness or Birthday Cake were made singles, but they're too sexual and would have to be censored too much.
Would love it if Cockiness or Birthday Cake were made singles, but they're too sexual and would have to be censored too much.
I was thinking they could be one of the last singles
Chocola teapot
14-11-11, 00:02
If I chose the singles...
1. We Found Love
2. You Da One
3. Where Have You Been
4. Talk That Talk
5. Drunk On Love
6. Roc Me Out
Would love it if Cockiness or Birthday Cake were made singles, but they're too sexual and would have to be censored too much.
Completely agree, Best songs on the album. <3
And yeah, S&M was butchered in the UK so the latter two would get destroyed. :'(
EmeraldFields
14-11-11, 00:03
Completely agree, Best songs on the album. <3
And yeah, S&M was butchered in the UK so the latter two would get destroyed. :'(
I find that weird because I always thought the UK was more lenient about sexuality than the US. But the song wasn't censored at all here.
Chocola teapot
14-11-11, 00:27
"S, S, S, S, & N, M" and "Chains and Whips excite me" were censored.
The video was banned from being shown before 9PM.
The song was even renamed. (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1657392/rihanna-come-on-tour.jhtml)
:p
Rihanna is one fierce bitch.
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EmeraldFields
14-11-11, 00:29
"S, S, S, S, & N, M" and "Chains and Whips excite me" were censored.
The video was banned from being shown before 9PM.
The song was even renamed. (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1657392/rihanna-come-on-tour.jhtml)
:p
LMAO. That's so silly. :p
Dark Lugia 2
14-11-11, 00:50
Lmao I remember that!.
"(sound effect) and (sound effect) may break my bones but (sound effect) and (sound effect) excite me!"
I've heard it uncensored on radio 1 though, even though they were the ones that censored it in the first place. I remember Rihanna getting really pissed off about it on Twitter.
Lara_Fan_33
14-11-11, 03:06
Talk that Talk is AMAZING. One of my new favorite Rihanna songs for sure <3 :D
Weemanply109
14-11-11, 17:10
"(sound effect) and (sound effect) may break my bones but (sound effect) and (sound effect) excite me!"
I remember hearing that on the radio aswell. It's ridiculous.
who loves where have u been? my fave next to birthday cake!
where have u been
bday cake
you da one
we found love
roc me out
talk that talk
my faves IN ORDER^ and also i think those are all going to be singles excluding 2 since they already are.
First live performance of We Found Love. :yah: Didn't expect her to sound this good
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Dark Lugia 2
15-11-11, 15:57
I hope that guy on twitter was right when he said Birthday Cake has a full version coming. Its one of my favourites on the album! :D
Rihanna's gonna sllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy every single diva in the game with TTT. SHE IS THE QUEEN OF POP.
Thanks bye
:)
Has her 2nd single been confirmed yet or is it still too early?
Kelly Craftman
15-11-11, 22:31
Has her 2nd single been confirmed yet or is it still too early?
Its You Da One, I believe
Its You Da One, I believe
Has the title of the 6th album been named yet?
Chocola teapot
15-11-11, 22:35
... It's called 'Talk That Talk'.
It leaked a few days ago.
I had to look that up on wikipedia. :p
Chocola teapot
15-11-11, 22:39
Good Idea. It could have been a bare faced lie, after all.
Good Idea. It could have been a bare faced lie, after all.
I know so that's why i looked it up. :p
... :vlol:
suck my cockiness, lick my persuasion!
The new album is just FANTABULOUS!!!!:D:tmb: Heard the entire album:p
Dark Lugia 2
16-11-11, 00:51
He want that
Cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake
He want that
Cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake
its not even my birthday.....
he want to lick the icing off
he's tryin to put his name on it
Rihanna is Queen! *-*
Good Idea. It could have been a bare faced lie, after all.
I know so that's why i looked it up. :p
:vlol:
Lara_Fan_33
17-11-11, 04:45
Oooh heard a snippet of Red Lipstick :cln: It sounds like Madhouse from Rated R!! :D *drool*
Her performance of 'We Found Love' on X-Factor was soooo good :eek:
Flawless singing is flawless.
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Rihanna is so cool. :cool:
I love that she's attempting to add some choreography, even if its incredibly simple
Backing track was a downside, but the choreography was tight so I didn't mind. Rihanna can actually pull this **** off, she just needs to work on it a little more. You have to wonder which is better though... a boring live performance with awful vocals or a good performance with decent vocals and a backing track?
;5824027']Her performance of 'We Found Love' on X-Factor was soooo good :eek:
Flawless singing is flawless.
F0b6UzXVlqM
Either its amazingly flawless or lipped... Kidding you can tell shes singing live most of the time
did she do some remix/dubstep with nicki minaj?
larson n natla
19-11-11, 16:20
Either its amazingly flawless or lipped... Kidding you can tell shes singing live most of the time
She is singing live but the backing track is so loud that it drowns her out. Good performance though!
Edit: White text dislikes me. :pi:
I meant this. Whats this for? :)
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Nicki wrote that song for Rihanna, and she ended up using it, but with completely different lyrics. Listen to Red Lipstick.
is there a nicki demo? :)
edit: Nevermind :D
;5824027']Her performance of 'We Found Love' on X-Factor was soooo good :eek:
Flawless singing is flawless.
F0b6UzXVlqM
ikr i loved it!
xLara_Nathanx
19-11-11, 17:37
Rihanna..
I LOVE YOU. <3
I am loving this new album. I think loud is better, but this one is just SO damn good.
Favorites:
You Da One
Were Have You Been
We Found Love
Talk That Talk
Cockiness (Love It)
Birthday Cake (will there be a longer version?)
We All Want Love
Roc Me Out
Favs :D:
You Da One
Where Have You Been
We Found Love
Talk That Talk
Roc Me Out
We All Want Love
Farewell
Watch N' Learn
Red Lipstick
Fool In Love
The Rest are blah or desent :mad:
Weemanply109
20-11-11, 01:35
;5824027']Her performance of 'We Found Love' on X-Factor was soooo good :eek:
Flawless singing is flawless.
F0b6UzXVlqM
Amazing performance.
Favesss:
You Da One
Where Have You Been
Cockiness
Birthday Cake
Watch n Learn
We Found Love (cause it grew on me)
I also would have put Talk That Talk but I cannot stand Jay Z :mad:
:D
Weemanply109
20-11-11, 01:46
I'm loving the whole album.
When she goes "Oh na na...what's my name?" I go "Rihanna, that's your name"
and then I go "stupid bitch..." in the echos....Second verse/chorus/thingy "Oh ha ha amnesia"
Seriously, I don't know why people like that song...:tea:
Jack Croft
20-11-11, 10:29
I'm loving the whole album.
This, album is stunning.
Talk that Talk
Loud
Rated R
GGGB
Girl Like Me
I had no idea that the song playing at the beginning of the 'We Ride' video is this unreleased song called "Just Be Happy" :vlol:
It totally should have been on the 'A Girl Like Me' album :D
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Just listened to TTT. Wasn't expecting it to be this consistent. Where Have You Been and We Found Love sound great back-to-back. Well done Rihanna :tmb:
Kelly Craftman
22-11-11, 14:43
I love Red lipstick and Fool In Love from the Deluxe version.
Can't wait to finally listen to the album, my copy arrived today :mis:
Rated R > GGGB > Talk That Talk > LOUD! > A Girl Like Me > Music Of The Sun
is there an extended version of Birthday Cake?
is there an extended version of Birthday Cake?
as far as I know....not yet :(....but maybe there is.....gotta look around......what i need is that Rusko ft. Rihanna track!! :jmp:
damn, i want to hear moar!!!!
damn, i want to hear moar!!!!
lmao!! Guess you want that cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake...............!!!
lmao!! Guess you want that cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake...............!!!
yeah, and i wanna put my name on it. :(
yeah, and i wanna put my name on it. :(
awww, you can put your name on my birthday cake xD if you want to that is :mis:.....
Lara_Fan_33
23-11-11, 01:24
yeah, and i wanna put my name on it. :(
But it isnt even your birthday :tea: ...or is it. :pi:
But it isnt even your birthday :tea: ...or is it. :pi:
if it is i called dibs on his birthday cake! :yah::vlol::vlol:
if it is i called dibs on his birthday cake! :yah::vlol::vlol:
im a girl, gurl! xD
im a girl, gurl! xD
oh my xD sorry i mean HERS :pi::vlol::vlol:
oh my xD sorry i mean HERS :pi::vlol::vlol:
my cake is yours :mis:
I love it i love it i love it when you eat it!
my cake is yours :mis:
I love it i love it i love it when you eat it!
bet u do xD! suck my cockiness lick my persuasion xD
Na Na Na come on! Na Na Na Na Na Na
Ass Ass Ass and M&M's~
I still haven't listened to Talk That Talk. ;_;
Just gave 'Talk That Talk' a listen, I have the deluxe edition and honestly....
SHE'S REALLY OUTDONE HERSELF WITH THIS ALBUM!! :yik:
I REALLY didn't expect that! Such an outstanding album.
Flawless. Just FLAWLESS. Her best album to date.
Every song is a soon to be hit. I definitely recommend it! :tmb:
This is easily my most favourite album of 2011! :jmp:
I love the new album! I still think loud is better but i really love
we found love
you da one
where have you been
roc me out
talk that talk.
All of these must be the album's singles!
Talk That Talk certainly walks that walk. After taking such a while to warm up to Loud I wasn't expecting to like TTT straight away but my god! It's Brilliant, so much better than Loud which I always have felt was a little thrown together in it's sound. I think Rated R will always be my favoutite album by her, but Talk That Talk has completely smashed Loud and Good Girl Gone Bad!
The only song thus far I'm not really feeling is Cockiness (love it), the sound is a bit all over the place. But there has been one song from both Rated R (G4L) and Loud (Raining Men) that I haven't gelled with. Cockiness is probably the same case for this album.
Also, what it with Birthday Cake? It's like a 1.20 long! And it just trails away mid verse. Very Strange, could have at least been put as the intro song like Mad House on RR.
I love the new album! I still think loud is better but i really love
we found love
you da one
where have you been
roc me out
talk that talk.
All of these must be the album's singles!Loud is nowhere near the level of Talk That Talk :cln::ton:
The only song thus far I'm not really feeling is Cockiness (love it), the sound is a bit all over the place. But there has been one song from both Rated R (G4L) and Loud (Raining Men) that I haven't gelled with. Cockiness is probably the same case for this album.
NO! :yik: No, no, no... You're not my mother... :mis: *imitates TRU Lara* :vlol:
I can't believe you don't like one of the best songs on the album! Cockiness is the ****! Love it. Rihanna shines on that track, oh my gosh, it's undescribable how much I love that song :D
Also, what it with Birthday Cake? It's like a 1.20 long! And it just trails away mid verse. Very Strange, could have at least been put as the intro song like Mad House on RR.I think Birthday Cake is something like a transition or a bridge between the more upbeat part of the album and the more serious part. I wouldn't mind to hear a longer version of the song but if my theory's right then I'm fine with the one we've got.
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Talk That Talk > Rated R > Loud > GGGB > AGLM >MOTS
;5831776']Loud is nowhere near the level of Talk That Talk :cln::ton:
NO! :yik: No, no, no... You're not my mother... :mis: *imitates TRU Lara* :vlol:
I know, it's so inferior it's not even funny! Loud that is. Not TTT.
;5831777']I can't believe you don't like one of the best songs on the album! Cockiness is the ****! Love it. Rihanna shines on that track, oh my gosh, it's undescribable how much I love that song :D
Sorry. I wanted to like it. I was expecting a Hard part 2. But the reality didn't match up. I personally think it's the worst song on the album, tied with Birthday Cake.
Preliminary list of preference;
*Where have you been
*We Found Love
*Drunk on Love
*Roc Me Out
*Farewell
*Talk That Talk (too much Jay Z for my liking)
*You da One
*Watch N Learn
*We All want Love
*Cockiness (Love it)
*Birthday cake
Also, LOL at all the pressed 'The XX' fans on Youtube because Rih Rih 'stole' their song 'intro for the music for Drunk on Love. Pft please, She made it better #truestory!
The next singles imo:
1. Talk That Talk
2. Where have you been
3. We all want love
4. Roc Me Out
Talk That Talk certainly walks that walk. After taking such a while to warm up to Loud I wasn't expecting to like TTT straight away but my god! It's Brilliant, so much better than Loud which I always have felt was a little thrown together in it's sound. I think Rated R will always be my favoutite album by her, but Talk That Talk has completely smashed Loud and Good Girl Gone Bad!
It took me a while to warm up to Loud as well. :D Loved TTT on the first listen though. Take the consistency of Rated R and the subject matter of Loud and you get Talk That Talk - can't go wrong with that.
[B]Farewell was a great closer IMO, anyone else like it? :D
It took me a while to warm up to Loud as well. :D Loved TTT on the first listen though. Take the consistency of Rated R and the subject matter of Loud and you get Talk That Talk - can't go wrong with that.
Farewell was a great closer IMO, anyone else like it? :D
i think farewell was a filler really.
I have learned to love talk that talk! I like all songs but cockiness, birthday cake and watch and learn. My favorite riri album is still a tie with loud (for dance music) and rated R (for pure good music).
i think farewell was a filler really.
I'm cool with that. :p Some people say the album was rushed and that's why there are some filler songs, Birthday Cake didn't sound like it was finished, etc. It makes sense but I never really noticed cuz I thought the album was superb the first time I heard it. To each his own I guess
I think Birthday cake was definitely unfinished, it just trails away mid way through the second verse. It's so strange. Had they cut it after the first chorus it would have worked very well as an interlude or intro.
I don't really think any of the songs are filler, they're all a decent quality. Although I think songs like Red Lipstick should have been put on the standard album instead of songs like Watch N Learn and We all want love. They've just got more substance really.
I've created a TTT playlist with the songs in order of preference and how I personally thing they flow better
Birthday Cake
Where have you been
We found love
Talk That Talk
Roc me out
Drunk on Love
Yo Da One
Watch N Learn
We all want love
Farewell
I didn't include Cockiness, I don't like it.
We All Want Love never really takes off. The potential is there but... I dunno, a more epic chorus would have helped.
Drunk On Love is epic. :cool:
Weemanply109
25-11-11, 12:03
Seriously? You guys still haven't heard the extended version of Birthday Cake? It's been on the net for over a week.
Here ya go. Straight from my computer. (THAT WASN'T HERE) :pi:
Kelly Craftman
25-11-11, 12:52
Ian, you can get banned for showing a download link in public :pi:
Weemanply109
25-11-11, 18:01
Ian, you can get banned for showing a download link in public :pi:
Oops. My bad, I've seen people share links on the britney thread with no hassle.
I don't see the problem anyway, it's an extended version of a track from the album, so doesn't that make it a remix...?
Where Have You Been for the next single, pls. It should have been a second single IMO.
Weemanply109
26-11-11, 20:01
;5836470']Where Have You Been for the next single, pls. It should have been a second single IMO.
I'm fine with You Da One being 2nd single, it's got a catchy beat, no doubt Where Have You Been for 3rd single. It will slay your favs!
It will slay your favs!No doubt about that! :vlol: :p
Weemanply109
26-11-11, 20:54
;5836744']No doubt about that! :vlol: :p
It's seriously one of the best tracks I've heard this year! The album itself is now in my top 5 pushing Demi Lovato's "Unbroken" into #6 for me.
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