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Paddy
07-08-10, 03:39
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I loved Fallout 3, cant wait for New Vegas, deserved it own thread.

CiaKonwerski
07-08-10, 03:40
Here is an already existing Fallout/Fallout New Vegas thread.
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=164307&highlight=Fallout+Vegas

Paddy
07-08-10, 03:43
Here is an already existing Fallout/Fallout New Vegas thread.
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=164307&highlight=Fallout+Vegas
Look at the last posts date, was in May.

interstellardave
07-08-10, 03:46
New Vegas is gonna rock! I played Fallout for so many hours and it didn't get old. Hope this one has even more to explore.

Paddy
07-08-10, 03:47
New Vegas is gonna rock! I played Fallout for so many hours and it didn't get old. Hope this one has even more to explore.
Yeah I loved the exploring in Fallout 3, the occassional lack of ammo annoyed me a lot though lol
Bottle caps seem hard to come by in the game.
New Vegas should keep people busy until Fallout 4.

Ward Dragon
07-08-10, 03:50
Shoot, I still haven't gotten around to playing the DLC for Fallout 3 :p I originally took the main game out of the library and won it, then bought the game of the year edition in November with all the DLC but kept getting distracted from playing it. I'll probably hold off buying New Vegas as well because I'm sure they'll do the same thing and if I just wait for the GotY edition I can have the DLC too without needing to figure out how to buy the DLC from Windows Live :p

Paddy
07-08-10, 03:51
Thats a good idea actually, I always prefer the GOTY editions.

Alpharaider47
07-08-10, 03:53
Shoot, I still haven't gotten around to playing the DLC for Fallout 3 :p I originally took the main game out of the library and won it, then bought the game of the year edition in November with all the DLC but kept getting distracted from playing it. I'll probably hold off buying New Vegas as well because I'm sure they'll do the same thing and if I just wait for the GotY edition I can have the DLC too without needing to figure out how to buy the DLC from Windows Live :p

I recently went back and played a bunch of the DLCs, had skipped on em for the longest time. Yeah I think I'm just gonna wait too. Looks like it will be a cool game though!

Paddy
07-08-10, 03:55
Love the look of it, monsters and weapons look better too.

Ward Dragon
07-08-10, 04:00
I recently went back and played a bunch of the DLCs, had skipped on em for the longest time. Yeah I think I'm just gonna wait too. Looks like it will be a cool game though!

Yeah, I was really looking forward to playing the lighthouse one and the extended ending one, but I think I got caught up in the Operation Anchorage bit and never got back to it. I remember installing the game and playing for a few hours, but that was it :p

And yes, New Vegas looks amazing :D I'd buy it on release if I wasn't convinced they'd release a ton of DLC for it which will end up in the GotY edition.

Carbonek_0051
07-08-10, 04:05
I really want to get this first day, but sadly I have too many other games I need to get. I guess the bonus is if they come out with a GotY Edition then it will be worth the wait.

Paddy
07-08-10, 10:49
I really want to get this first day, but sadly I have too many other games I need to get. I guess the bonus is if they come out with a GotY Edition then it will be worth the wait.
Love when they do GOTY editions, least if some dont have Xbox live they can get it all with the game. Wish Bioware would do that with their games the tight gits :p

DragonSlayer
12-08-10, 13:02
Bethesda Softworks Reveals Star-Studded Cast for Fallout: New Vegas

Fallout: New Vegas features Golden Globe-winner and two time Emmy nominated actor Ron Perlman ("Hellboy", "Sons of Anarachy")
Screen Actors Guild-winner and Emmy and Golden Globe nominated actor Matthew Perry ("Friends")
Mr. Las Vegas himself, Wayne Newton
William Sadler ("Shawshank Redemption")
Zach Levi ("Chuck")
Felicia Day ("The Guild")
Michael Dorn ("Star Trek:The Next Generation")
Kris Kristofferson ("Blade Trilogy,")
Danny Trejo ("Machete", "From Dusk Till Dawn")
John Doman ("Mystic River", "The Wire")
and Rene Auberjonois ("Boston Legal", "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine").

source http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/home/pr-081010.php

Paddy
12-08-10, 13:11
Preorder this apparently it comes with DLC.

larson n natla
12-08-10, 13:16
Really looking forward to this game, I will probably buy both this game and Fable 3 within the first week of release.

Agent 47
12-08-10, 16:26
Here is an already existing Fallout/Fallout New Vegas thread.
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=164307&highlight=Fallout+Vegas

Who created it ;) i expected nothing less than a new one to be created to be honest.

Look at the last posts date, was in May.

May 2010 huh i make that 3 months, so explain to me the difference between

The General X-Files thread
last post - 22-08-09
new post - 10-08-10

Just pointing that out.

DragonSlayer
28-08-10, 20:41
Fallout New Vegas trophies/achievements possible spoilers

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_achievements_and_trophies

Paddy
29-08-10, 00:37
Who created it ;) i expected nothing less than a new one to be created to be honest.



May 2010 huh i make that 3 months, so explain to me the difference between

The General X-Files thread
last post - 22-08-09
new post - 10-08-10

Just pointing that out.
Its really not a big deal the new thread being done. Im pretty sure the mods wouldve closed it if it needed be.

Catracoth
29-08-10, 00:40
The new thread is well past the three month bump rule. :) Anyway, I need to get into these games - I've heard nothing but good things, and New Vegas looks phenomenal!

Paddy
29-08-10, 00:45
Fallout New Vegas trophies/achievements possible spoilers

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_achievements_and_trophies
Awesome, doesnt look like any difficulty related achievements :p
Fairly similar to Fallout 3.

Braider
29-08-10, 14:44
Fallout 3 was the worst game I ever played!

What is so different about Fallout Las Vegas??

Eddie Haskell
29-08-10, 14:56
These days, I do not get excited about or salivate with anticipation for much of anything. However, this is the exception to that. Gaming has been going downhill on a fast track for years now, but at least we can all raise our glasses high in tribute to Bethesda for taking the high road over the rest of the garbage out there. If it weren't for Bethesda and Blizzard I would have no hope for gaming in the future.

Paddy
29-08-10, 15:01
Same makers of Oblivion were sure never to letdown, and havent so far with Fallout.

trlestew
29-08-10, 15:49
The reason why I'm not very excited about Fallout New Vegas is because it looks like an expanded version of Fallout 3, and is done by Obsidian. Kinda like one big expansion to me. I know, different enviroments, but it still looks so much like Fallout 3 to me with hardly any difference.

Ward Dragon
29-08-10, 16:21
The reason why I'm not very excited about Fallout New Vegas is because it looks like an expanded version of Fallout 3, and is done by Obsidian. Kinda like one big expansion to me. I know, different enviroments, but it still looks so much like Fallout 3 to me with hardly any difference.

That's kind of why I am looking forward to it :p I mean, I wouldn't want them to drastically change the premise of the game or the game mechanics. Instead I want them to focus on making a new story with new events to discover, and it seems that's what they've done. My main concern is that they actually finish the game properly (I loved Kotor 2 but that game really needed a proper ending).

Sir Croft
29-08-10, 16:57
From ESRB.org

This is an action role-playing game, set in a post-apocalyptic Mojave Desert, in which players assume the role of a survivor hero who investigates a mystery and performs a series of quests. Missions allow players to explore the Mojave Desert, surrounding casinos, and abandoned facilities; other quests involve combat with human and mutant survivors. Players use chainsaws, laser rifles, knives, and sledgehammers to kill enemies. Fighting can be frenetic and intense, highlighted by various camera effects (e.g., slow motion, blurring, screen shakes) and depictions of dismemberment, blood spray, and blood trails. In one sequence, players can choose to activate a collar bomb around a slave-woman's neck, resulting in depictions of blood and gore. During the course of the game, players will encounter male and female prostitutes: the screen fades to black as suggestive dialogue is heard in the background (e.g., "Nice charlies, too! Give them a shake for the Ben-man, will ya?"); there is also an extended sequence suggesting (no depiction) sexual activity with a robot (e.g., "Fisto reporting for duty . . . Please assume the position," "I suppose I should test you out . . . Servos active!" and "Something wrong with someone if they got to **** a machine."). The storyline sometimes references a fictional drug called "chems," as well as "Day Trippers," "cracked out junkies," and "degenerate, drug-addicted killers." Players' Character can be seen consuming the drugs, which sometimes leads to a screen-blurring effect.

:vlol:

I'm looking forward to this game, though. Not for the reason above!

interstellardave
29-08-10, 17:12
Man, when the list everything like that it does sound pretty unseemly, doesn't it?! :p

Lara's Nemesis
29-08-10, 17:16
From ESRB.org



:vlol:

I'm looking forward to this game, though. Not for the reason above!

Good fun for all the family. :D

I thought the pint size slasher bit from Fallout 3 was well done. Sick but funny at the same time.:o

robm_2007
29-08-10, 19:30
That's kind of why I am looking forward to it :p I mean, I wouldn't want them to drastically change the premise of the game or the game mechanics. Instead I want them to focus on making a new story with new events to discover, and it seems that's what they've done. My main concern is that they actually finish the game properly (I loved Kotor 2 but that game really needed a proper ending).

i liked KOTOR 2's ending :pi:

i was off-put by that fact that it looks just like Fallout 3, just with more and different things. but it still looks very good. i think us that think it looks like a gigantic DLC add-on, is becuase they didnt upgrade thier engine, so the graphics look identical. but the whole Vegas and the Mojave desert location seems really cool. and the part where we have go to the Hoover Dam, i really love; ive always wanted Lara to go to there :p

this game is my number 3 on my games to buy list.

Ward Dragon
29-08-10, 19:33
i liked KOTOR 2's ending :pi:

I'm not saying it was a bad ending exactly, I just really felt like something was missing and then when I looked up how much content got cut from the game due to lack of time that totally explained it. I just hope they got enough time to do everything they wanted to do with New Vegas and they didn't have to cut things out at the last minute.

robm_2007
29-08-10, 19:39
I'm not saying it was a bad ending exactly, I just really felt like something was missing and then when I looked up how much content got cut from the game due to lack of time that totally explained it. I just hope they got enough time to do everything they wanted to do with New Vegas and they didn't have to cut things out at the last minute.

im afraid to look up what content from KOTOR 2 was cut, that way i dont get a feeling of emptyness.

well, i know that at the end of NV, you cant continnue to free roam. they said that there are too many big events that shape the world of NV, so it wouldnt seem as conclusive if they let you explore the world again: im totally repeating what i remember reading in a confusatory sense :o. they also said that they have plans fo DLC.

so, im guessing what ever was cut (perhaps a Broken Stell type DLC, where you can play after you beat the game), it will make it as DLC.

Ward Dragon
29-08-10, 19:50
im afraid to look up what content from KOTOR 2 was cut, that way i dont get a feeling of emptyness.

Most of it was bug fixes actually :p The main extra things were exploring the robot planet where the HK-51's got made, and then at the ending your party members were actually supposed to show up during the final mission at various points so there would be more closure for them instead of how it is now where you basically leave them on the ship and that's that :p

well, i know that at the end of NV, you cant continnue to free roam. they said that there are too many big events that shape the world of NV, so it wouldnt seem as conclusive if they let you explore the world again: im totally repeating what i remember reading in a confusatory sense :o. they also said that they have plans fo DLC.

so, im guessing what ever was cut (perhaps a Broken Stell type DLC, where you can play after you beat the game), it will make it as DLC.

This is precisely why I'm waiting for the GotY edition before I buy it :pi:

robm_2007
29-08-10, 20:01
This is precisely why I'm waiting for the GotY edition before I buy it :pi:

i cant wait that long; considering it will prolly come out a year after release. i want to have sex with Robits ASAP.

funny, considering i had a dream a couple months ago, where i was a prostitute, and all of my clients were robots. it's backwards from NV, but i'll just pretend that i am psychic. :cool:

but, what if it gets no GOTY awards? would it just be a 'Complete Edition' or something? they'd be quite presumptuous to assume they will win GOTY.....

Paddy
30-08-10, 00:11
The reason why I'm not very excited about Fallout New Vegas is because it looks like an expanded version of Fallout 3, and is done by Obsidian. Kinda like one big expansion to me. I know, different enviroments, but it still looks so much like Fallout 3 to me with hardly any difference.
Like Ward Dragon said thats why Im eager for this game, to change something thats worked well would be ridiculous.

trlestew
30-08-10, 00:44
But I mean it looks exactly the same despite some new additions. My opinion

Paddy
30-08-10, 00:46
It does but I like that its not that different, dont want many changes to something that worked well in Fallout 3.
Besides its not like this is Fallout 4, Id say they will try different things in Fallout 4.

Eddie Haskell
30-08-10, 01:26
How much more can they do to not only "change" how it looks (as has been stated here), but to actually make it better or (dare we say) improved in appearance? And really, what's the point? Just to make the world look different somehow for no reason except change? That would be counterproductive, we all now recognize the 3D Fallout world as it has been crafted by Bethesda as "THE" post-nuclear world.

In any game series making changes just make changes is silly, and in many cases it doesn't go down well.

Paddy
30-08-10, 01:28
How much more can they do to not only "change" how it looks (as has been stated here), but to actually make it better or (dare we say) improved in appearance? And really, what's the point? Just to make the world look different somehow for no reason except change? That would be counterproductive, we all now recognize the 3D Fallout world as it has been crafted by Bethesda as "THE" post-nuclear world.

In any game series making changes just make changes is silly, and in many cases it doesn't go down well.
I agree, calling for changes for the sake of it is ludicrous, why fix what isnt broken?

robm_2007
30-08-10, 03:16
It does but I like that its not that different, dont want many changes to something that worked well in Fallout 3.
Besides its not like this is Fallout 4, Id say they will try different things in Fallout 4.

isnt this considered Fallout 4? or do you mean if they made a F3 direct sequel? or something else?
How much more can they do to not only "change" how it looks (as has been stated here), but to actually make it better or (dare we say) improved in appearance? And really, what's the point? Just to make the world look different somehow for no reason except change? That would be counterproductive, we all now recognize the 3D Fallout world as it has been crafted by Bethesda as "THE" post-nuclear world.

In any game series making changes just make changes is silly, and in many cases it doesn't go down well.

by making changes adn thinking that the game looks the same (except the new story, additions, setting, etc.) I (and maybe trlestew) meant that it looks (visually) like the same game; in the sense of graphics. cuz in Fallout 3, which i really adore, all the NPCs looked and sounded the same. and they seem to not be much different in NV, ecept maybe their clothes and such.

the character models are quite dated, they arent bad, i guess we just expected them to do some sort of improvement. but its not a great big deal, but i think it is worth mentioning, but not going bananas over.

Ward Dragon
30-08-10, 03:23
isnt this considered Fallout 4? or do you mean if they made a F3 direct sequel? or something else?

No, New Vegas is a spin-off. Bethesda is making Fallout 4 :)

Paddy
30-08-10, 03:39
Fallout 4 is really a massive bonus. Eager as for New Vegas now :)

robm_2007
30-08-10, 03:46
No, New Vegas is a spin-off. Bethesda is making Fallout 4 :)

its a spin-off, isnt it part of the main series?

why are they thinking about Fallout 4 already? i hope they dont turn Fallout into a COD-every-game-every-year type of franchise. :o

Ward Dragon
30-08-10, 04:02
its a spin-off, isnt it part of the main series?

why are they thinking about Fallout 4 already? i hope they dont turn Fallout into a COD-every-game-every-year type of franchise. :o

I'll try to find the interview I'm thinking of. It basically said that New Vegas was being made by Obsidian and had some of the people who made the original Fallout games on the team, but they had to run everything by Bethesda first so that they wouldn't interfere with the storyline of Fallout 4 which will be made by Bethesda.

WSOwen02
30-08-10, 04:06
You're right, New Vegas is NOT Fallout 4. The speculation is that the Fallout 3 team is working on Elder Scrolls 5 right now.

Paddy
30-08-10, 04:06
its a spin-off, isnt it part of the main series?

why are they thinking about Fallout 4 already? i hope they dont turn Fallout into a COD-every-game-every-year type of franchise. :o
Its a split team working on New Vegas.

Ward Dragon
30-08-10, 04:36
I couldn't find the specific interview I was thinking of, but this one (http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1113) clearly says New Vegas is a spin off :)

This interview (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-5316-Interview--Josh-Sawyer-Talks-Fallout--New-Vegas.html) explains the upgrades they made to the game engine graphically (mostly to improve how it handles rendering objects in the distance) and the new weapons customization system.

This interview (https://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/2949452) explains the upgrades to the dialogue system (more complex dialogue trees with your choices having more of an effect), reputation system (you have a separate reputation with each faction which influences how they react to you), and the companions (companions now have back stories and side quests, and you can give them specific commands).

This interview (http://www.strategyinformer.com/xbox360/falloutnewvegas/interviews.html) gives some background on Obsidian and says that New Vegas is finished :D

Paddy
30-08-10, 04:38
The improved dialogue system pleases me a lot :)

WSOwen02
30-08-10, 04:43
Granted I haven't been following this game very closely but the fact that Obsidian is developing has me concerned.

Ward Dragon
30-08-10, 14:24
Granted I haven't been following this game very closely but the fact that Obsidian is developing has me concerned.

From my rather limited experience with Obsidian, they tend to have a lot of truly clever and fantastic ideas and they are really ambitious but then they go and run out of time near the end and have to chop the game apart to make the deadline. I'm thinking that if Bethesda gave them enough time (and quality-control screened the game before allowing it to be released) then it should be really good :D

interstellardave
30-08-10, 14:33
I enjoyed Fallout 3 so much--and had so many great hours playing it--that New Vegas could be worse and, even then, I'd still enjoy it; and I'm sure I'd get my moneys' worth.

Paddy
30-08-10, 14:37
I enjoyed the idea of using perks to permanently boost my abilities especially if I had added skill points to them anyway.

WSOwen02
30-08-10, 22:00
From my rather limited experience with Obsidian, they tend to have a lot of truly clever and fantastic ideas and they are really ambitious but then they go and run out of time near the end and have to chop the game apart to make the deadline. I'm thinking that if Bethesda gave them enough time (and quality-control screened the game before allowing it to be released) then it should be really good :D

Those ideas are all well and good but those alone don't make them a good studio. They apparently do not have the self control required to know when it is time to stop adding things and start polishing. Look at Alpha Protocol.

Ward Dragon
30-08-10, 22:06
Those ideas are all well and good but those alone don't make them a good studio. They apparently do not have the self control required to know when it is time to stop adding things and start polishing. Look at Alpha Protocol.

I haven't seen Alpha Protocol, but that bit in bold is indeed the impression I get based upon Kotor 2. I don't think Bethesda would want to be associated with a buggy and unfinished game, so I assume that they will provide some oversight to make sure that Obsidian stays on track and finishes the game properly. To be honest if I had to choose between a really ambitious but unfinished game versus playing it safe, I'd prefer the ambitious but unfinished game :o They have the vision and the talent, they just need someone to reign them in and make sure they stay focused on completing the game.

WSOwen02
30-08-10, 22:28
I haven't seen Alpha Protocol, but that bit in bold is indeed the impression I get based upon Kotor 2. I don't think Bethesda would want to be associated with a buggy and unfinished game, so I assume that they will provide some oversight to make sure that Obsidian stays on track and finishes the game properly.

They put out Fallout 3 didn't they? :p And Rogue Warrior.

To be honest if I had to choose between a really ambitious but unfinished game versus playing it safe, I'd prefer the ambitious but unfinished game :o They have the vision and the talent, they just need someone to reign them in and make sure they stay focused on completing the game.

We'll see. I'm hoping it will be good but I just don't trust Obsidian and I'm honestly baffled as to why publishers keep giving them projects. Great ideas don't mean a thing if the game is nearly unplayable.

Ward Dragon
30-08-10, 22:35
They put out Fallout 3 didn't they? :p And Rogue Warrior.

Was Fallout 3 all that buggy? It crashed on me a few times but I think that might have been nVidia's fault (I seem to remember a problem with the driver which I think got fixed in an update). As for unfinished, well, as much as I hated that damned ending I think it was a design choice (either they intended to end it that way, or they knew all along they'd sell DLC with the real ending, so either way not the result of rushing to meet a deadline). I also noticed that Gob's quest didn't go anywhere (I was carrying messages from him to his mother, or vice versa, and then suddenly there just wasn't another dialogue option about it and it seemed noticeably missing). Other than that I can't really think of anything I'd say was unfinished.

I haven't played Rogue Warrior though :p

We'll see. I'm hoping it will be good but I just don't trust Obsidian and I'm honestly baffled as to why publishers keep giving them projects. Great ideas don't mean a thing if the game is nearly unplayable.

I think they just need a good editor :p There should be someone from Bethesda hanging out at their studio screening the ideas before they go and spend the time and resources to put the ideas into the game.

But anyhow, according to one of those interviews, Obsidian is officially done with New Vegas and they are just doing bug-testing now, so it looks like they actually are taking the time to properly polish this game :) But given their history it's totally understandable if you take an "I'll believe it when I see it" approach :p

WSOwen02
30-08-10, 22:41
Was Fallout 3 all that buggy? It crashed on me a few times but I think that might have been nVidia's fault (I seem to remember a problem with the driver which I think got fixed in an update). As for unfinished, well, as much as I hated that damned ending I think it was a design choice (either they intended to end it that way, or they knew all along they'd sell DLC with the real ending, so either way not the result of rushing to meet a deadline). I also noticed that Gob's quest didn't go anywhere (I was carrying messages from him to his mother, or vice versa, and then suddenly there just wasn't another dialogue option about it and it seemed noticeably missing). Other than that I can't really think of anything I'd say was unfinished.

I personally did not have many bugs but I heard some horror stories and just about every review mentioned them.

I haven't played Rogue Warrior though :p

Then you, my friend, are in for a real treat. *Warning* LOTS of profanity.

I think they just need a good editor :p There should be someone from Bethesda hanging out at their studio screening the ideas before they go and spend the time and resources to put the ideas into the game.

But anyhow, according to one of those interviews, Obsidian is officially done with New Vegas and they are just doing bug-testing now, so it looks like they actually are taking the time to properly polish this game :) But given their history it's totally understandable if you take an "I'll believe it when I see it" approach :p

Hope so. Looking forward to reading some reviews.

Ward Dragon
30-08-10, 22:50
I personally did not have many bugs but I heard some horror stories and just about every review mentioned them.

Ah, I see. In that case I'll just be glad that I got lucky and didn't have too many bugs :o

Then you, my friend, are in for a real treat. *Warning* LOTS of profanity.

I had to remove the link because of the profanity, but I'll watch the video when I get a chance just to see what you are talking about. It sounds like it will be quite amusing :p

WSOwen02
30-08-10, 22:55
Ah, I see. In that case I'll just be glad that I got lucky and didn't have too many bugs :o



I had to remove the link because of the profanity, but I'll watch the video when I get a chance just to see what you are talking about. It sounds like it will be quite amusing :p

Yeah sorry, I was just going to post a visitor message but I couldn't so I added that. Consider me appropriately chastised. :o

techno-atom
30-08-10, 23:49
I pre-ordered my copy of New Vegas last week for the PS3. =) I spent at least a hundred hours with FO3 and loved every moment of it... I hope this game doesn't disappoint me. :D

Ward Dragon
31-08-10, 00:20
Yeah sorry, I was just going to post a visitor message but I couldn't so I added that. Consider me appropriately chastised. :o

Nah, you're not in trouble :) It was an innocent mistake. VM's are kind of public too so best not to post mature content there either :o In any case, I've got my VM's set to friends only and I forgot to add you as a friend before :o (I usually only realize that someone's not on my friends list when I go to post a VM and can't, or someone tries to post on mine and can't)

robm_2007
31-08-10, 02:37
im hoping for dual weapons, but im guessing its not gonna make it to the final version.

they also should have put vehicles; hell, even a HoverRound would be great.

Paddy
31-08-10, 02:51
Vehicles aint a bad idea, all that trekking around for ages got boring in Fallout 3.

techno-atom
31-08-10, 04:06
Vehicles aint a bad idea, all that trekking around for ages got boring in Fallout 3.

I enjoyed traveling by foot in Fallout 3 as there was always something new to see and explore. I can't count how many random & amusing things I've encountered just aimlessly wandering the Wastelands of Fallout 3.

Paddy
31-08-10, 04:13
I enjoyed traveling by foot in Fallout 3 as there was always something new to see and explore. I can't count how many random & amusing things I've encountered just aimlessly wandering the Wastelands of Fallout 3.
Doing it for hours on foot is boring to me, Id have loved if there was vehicles.