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Super Badnik
01-11-10, 14:24
Dilma Rousseff, a former Marxist guerrilla turned button-down technocrat with expertise in everything from energy to high finance, comfortably won Brazil's presidency Sunday in a contest that demonstrated voter loyalty to the man who handpicked her for the job, President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.

With nearly all of the votes counted in the world's fourth-largest democracy, Rousseff, 62, Lula's former chief of staff, had 56 percent of the vote to 44 percent for the challenger, Jose Serra, 68. On Jan. 1, when she is to be sworn in, Rousseff will become the country's first female president.
Source (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/31/AR2010103104469.html)

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Dilma Rousseff

TheRCroft
01-11-10, 14:31
It's good to see that women are gaining more status in the society. After all the battles they fought for having the same rights as men, good that they are, inch by inch, reaching their aims.
Thanks for sharing :D

Liara
01-11-10, 14:41
I don't have the attention span to read the whole article, but damn, if this will actually happen then I will break out the wine bottles and drink to that. I've been waiting for the news of a female president for ages!

Gian Carlo
01-11-10, 14:44
Trust me, she was not the best option to vote.. but she will continue the actual president's footsteps, which will be great for us. :)

Sgt BOMBULOUS
01-11-10, 14:49
Trust me, she was not the best option to vote.. but she will continue the actual president's footsteps, which will be great for us. :)

Yea, I heard she was basically another Obama (big government etc...)

TheRCroft
01-11-10, 14:50
Trust me, she was not the best option to vote.. but she will continue the actual president's footsteps, which will be great for us. :)

She will serve as an example for many republics in the world, a kind of a test: if she has a good mandate, women will begin to claim their rights in politics, and they will be successful; if she has a bad one, even if candidates, women will not get the presidence so easily.

Gian Carlo
01-11-10, 15:10
^ Yeah, you're right, but you don't know how the hell Brazil is, so.. :p

robm_2007
01-11-10, 15:12
I dont care about Brazilian politics so....

*exits thread*

Gian Carlo
01-11-10, 15:22
I dont care about Brazilian politics so....

*exits thread*

Exit the thread, so, don't spam. http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/218/75836362.gif

TheRCroft
01-11-10, 15:23
^ Yeah, you're right, but you don't know how the hell Brazil is, so.. :p

I don't get what this has to do with my post, I was talking about women in general, not only in Brasil :p But why do you say she was not the best option?

btw, I love your gifs xD

Sir Croft
01-11-10, 15:35
I must admit I spoiled my vote for neither her nor Serra are good enough to take the role of a president, in my opinion. However, if I had to vote for one of them, I'd vote for Dilma.

Gian Carlo
01-11-10, 15:42
I don't get what this has to do with my post, I was talking about women in general, not only in Brasil :p But why do you say she was not the best option?

btw, I love your gifs xD

Things she did in the past.. how can I say? Hmm.. first she tells that she is going to do or doesn't do something and then she does, you know.. a little liar. I.e: She said that was going to liberate gay marriage, and then she said that was against this, I don't know what the hell she is going to do, now. :p

There are so many gifs from where these came from.. http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7002/30273494.gif

TheRCroft
01-11-10, 15:51
Things she did in the past.. how can I say? Hmm.. first she tells that she is going to do or doesn't do something and then she does, you know.. a little liar. I.e: She said that was going to liberate gay marriage, and then she said that was against this, I don't know what the hell she is going to do, now. :p

There are so many gifs from where these came from.. http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7002/30273494.gif

Now I get it :p So, from one side, she follows the footsteps of the previous president, which is good, but she is a liar, which is bad. It is really confusing indeed. If only in Portugal it wasn't the same story..:o Politics will always be about lies. And no one can change it, unfortunately :rolleyes:

Do you own a gif factory? :pi:

Gian Carlo
01-11-10, 16:02
Yeah.. nobody and nothing is perfect.. :)

It's Gian's gifs, *****! :p

Mad Tony
01-11-10, 16:42
Couldn't care less that she's a woman, same way I didn't care about Obama being black. Policies are what matters.

toxicraider
01-11-10, 16:59
She will serve as an example for many republics in the world, a kind of a test: if she has a good mandate, women will begin to claim their rights in politics, and they will be successful; if she has a bad one, even if candidates, women will not get the presidence so easily.
But she's not exactly the first female leader ever, what would make her such a big influence? :)

TheRCroft
01-11-10, 17:08
But she's not exactly the first female leader ever, what would make her such a big influence? :)

I assume I exaggerated, what I was trying to say is that how many more women become presidents, better, because, they have even more reasons to fight for equality in their countries.

TRfan23
01-11-10, 17:15
I hope she's not another Obama and actually does something, that will progress people in the right direction...

Catapharact
01-11-10, 17:31
Couldn't care less that she's a woman, same way I didn't care about Obama being black. Policies are what matters.

If people were really taking that into account, I don't think they would have voted for her considering her party (The Dilma Worker's party.) Not to mention the fact that she was a Marxist Guerrilla. People are comparing her to the likes of Indra Ghandhi and Thatcher... What a joke.

Love2Raid
01-11-10, 17:57
Yea, I heard she was basically another Obama (big government etc...)
Werenīt both candidates socialists? Just like the previous president, it appears to be what most Brazilians want.

I just hope that she will do something about women rights in Brazil, like correct the payment differences between men and women and who knows, maybe a legalisation of abortion.

Mad Tony
01-11-10, 18:04
maybe a legalisation of abortion.What's that got to do with women's rights?

If people were really taking that into account, I don't think they would have voted for her considering her party (The Dilma Worker's party.) Not to mention the fact that she was a Marxist Guerrilla. People are comparing her to the likes of Indra Ghandhi and Thatcher... What a joke.Unfortunately many people don't look at the policies and instead vote on race and gender.

Super Badnik
01-11-10, 18:07
What's that got to do with women's rights?It is often seen as a feminist issue. The woman's right to choose and to have control over her own body.

Sway6erman
01-11-10, 18:08
She has Bulgarian origins,so I'm proud of her.

Mad Tony
01-11-10, 18:09
It is often seen as a feminist issue. The woman's right to choose and to have control over her own body.It's a human rights issue.

Super Badnik
01-11-10, 18:13
It's a human rights issue.That is another way of looking at it, but there has always been a feminist issue around abortion too.

Love2Raid
01-11-10, 18:15
What's that got to do with women's rights?

Because if a woman doesnīt want a baby over there, she will need to get it removed illegally, with often inappropriate and very dangerous methods. So if something goes wrong, she could die. Itīs one of the most common causes of death in young women over there (illegal abortion). So I would most definitely say itīs a womenīs right issue.

Mad Tony
01-11-10, 18:19
Do women have the right to terminate their children?

Love2Raid
01-11-10, 18:25
Letīs not turn this into another abortion thread.

BoyTRaider
01-11-10, 18:29
Good to know. Thank you for posting it. :)

And to all Brazilian forumers, quick question.. so I hear that it's mandatory to vote if you're 18 and over, or else they charge you a fee. Well, I'm 19 now and have moved out of Brazil when I was 12, does that still apply to me?


I dont care about Brazilian politics so....

*exits thread*

Wait, if you don't care about Brazilian politics why did you even enter this thread in the first place, considering the title of it is First Female President for Brazil? :confused:

Alpharaider47
01-11-10, 18:48
Well, I know pretty much nothing about Brazilian politics, or this particular woman :o, however I think it's cool that a woman was able to gain such a position or power. Sounds like a step closer to equality.

Gian Carlo
01-11-10, 19:03
Letīs not turn this into another abortion thread.

Abortion is not allowed here, in Brazil. Thank, God. :)

And to all Brazilian forumers, quick question.. so I hear that it's mandatory to vote if you're 18 and over, or else they charge you a fee. Well, I'm 19 now and have moved out of Brazil when I was 12, does that still apply to me?

I don't know about this.. :o

scoopy_loopy
02-11-10, 03:27
Seems to be the year of Female leaders! Australia elected it's first female (and first non-religious, non-married and childless! The scandal!:eek:) PM this year too, Julia Gillard! :D

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3168/juliagillard31.jpg

voltz
02-11-10, 03:30
Abortion is not allowed here, in Brazil. Thank, God. :)

What about adoption? Can't have another mouth chuckin all yo income. ;)

QiX
02-11-10, 04:41
Trust me, she was not the best option to vote.. but she will continue the actual president's footsteps, which will be great for us. :)

A matter of opinion. She had my vote both for the first turn as for the second. For anyone not aware of how elections for executive power mandates work in Brazil, there are allowed as many candidates meets the applying requirements. If in a first turn vote none of them reach simple majority there is a second turn with the 2 most voted candidates only. Then the must voted will win.

Things she did in the past.. how can I say? Hmm.. first she tells that she is going to do or doesn't do something and then she does, you know.. a little liar. I.e: She said that was going to liberate gay marriage, and then she said that was against this, I don't know what the hell she is going to do, now. :p

Serra supporters did an awful hoax war against her and started a huge spam battle over the internet intending to lower her huge popularity. Gay marriage and her support for abortion were 2 of the hoaxes, intending to bring to Serra part of the religious voters. Actually the president in Brazil can't alone decide any of these matters. Only the Congress is entitled of this kind of decision, not the President


And to all Brazilian forumers, quick question.. so I hear that it's mandatory to vote if you're 18 and over, or else they charge you a fee. Well, I'm 19 now and have moved out of Brazil when I was 12, does that still apply to me?

It is technically mandatory, but if you are not in your voting city you can with a little bureaucracy justify as 'in transit' and get clearance of any fee or further duties. In your case if you have double citizenship I think you will only need to worry if you intend to live in Brazil again. And probably just by showing any proof of foreign residence like mail sent to you in foreign address you will have your situation regularised for free. Any brazilian counsulate or embassy can inform you better on the details, but I wouldn't worry unless you want to move back to Brazil.

Abortion is not allowed here, in Brazil. Thank, God. :)

It actually is, in just 2 cases: The fetus is result of rape or it's development may pose risk to the mother's life. Cases like anencephaly, malformation, lack of financial resources to raise children etc are treated as regular crime thanks to God, or whatever else you call a strong christian lobby in the Congress. Officially government and religion are independent in Brazil since 1889, but it's a long road ahead untill this gets trully a fact.

If people were really taking that into account, I don't think they would have voted for her considering her party (The Dilma Worker's party.) Not to mention the fact that she was a Marxist Guerrilla. People are comparing her to the likes of Indra Ghandhi and Thatcher... What a joke.

Her involvement with Guerrilla was during the late sixties and seventies, when Brazil was living a hell under the most violent dictatorship we ever knew. After a coup d'etat the democratically elected president was arrested and a military joint took over for two decades of brutal assassinations and torture, with any suspicious citizen being simply' disappeared' without a trace just to be found decades later in illegal mass graves. That was so bad that even marxism seemed a better option, and many of the politicians today had some involvement with guerrilla groups after the generals suspended all of the civil rights and left not any form of political representation possible.

Tombraiderx08
02-11-10, 12:27
Pretty cool, congratz Brazil :D