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IceColdLaraCroft
26-11-10, 15:14
This is more international/historical news than just Angelina, so I thought i'd post it here in gen chat.

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/holy-jolie-ancient-temple-named-after-lara-croft-actress-20101126-189s8.html


Angelina Jolie may not have charmed all the locals at her most recent filming location but the people of Cambodia, where she shot Lara Croft: Tomb Raider in 2000, are said to have renamed a temple after her.

Rajan Zed, the president of the Universal Society of Hinduism, told the WENN news agency that the star is so beloved in Cambodia a world-famous Hindu religious site in Angkor has been renamed the "Angelina Jolie Temple".

"It's a 12th-century site called Ta Prohm; it is otherwise known as Old Brahma and was initially named Rajavihara or the royal monastery," he said. "Now it's popularly called the Angelina Jolie Temple."

The building was the setting for various scenes in Tomb Raider in which Jolie, as Lara Croft, battled a secret society called the Illuminati for possession of an ancient talisman. Today, local restaurants sell a Tomb Raider cocktail (Cointreau, lime and soda said to be Jolie's tipple of choice). Meanwhile, the actor's son Maddox was born in the Siem Reap province in which the temple complex is located.Jolie's unofficial honour appeared to come with responsibilities, as Zed called on the actor to use her public profile and her status as "the patron saint of Cambodia" to help conserve the site. He added: "I'd urge Angelina Jolie to raise awareness about better preservation of this world heritage, as more needs to be done to safeguard the temple complex and its surroundings [and] save it from vandalism and looting."

NRO.
26-11-10, 15:17
FOR EFFS SAKE.

As much as I adore Angie, this is complete BS. Leave the ancient temples alone, I want to remember them for what was before this time, not remember it for an actress.

Vinkula
26-11-10, 15:18
Cool news :tmb:

Go Angelina!

Catapharact
26-11-10, 15:19
*Sigh...*

To my fellow OXFAM members and Aid workers;

Looks like you risking your lives out there day in and day out, dodging mines, rescuing people and even bringing people back from the brink of death doesn't qualifies you as "saints."

However, getting a movie deal and parading around a few mock up props does.

I am so sorry... But the world is just this stupid.

Lara's Nemesis
26-11-10, 15:24
^
They want her cash and profile to help preserve the site tho.


Pretty sad anyway, I prefer the proper name although I'm sure some would worship at the Temple of Angelina.:p

Liara
26-11-10, 15:27
I know that Angie donated and worked a helped a lot of people in Cambodia, so she deserves recognition. But this is a bit too much, IMO. Name a road after her or something, but not an old temple.

Spong
26-11-10, 15:40
Oh. My. God.
That is just ridiculous.

Like Catapharact said, it's one big middle finger extended at the millions who do work that we never hear about.

Having said that, the article uses the phrase "...the people of Cambodia, where she shot Lara Croft: Tomb Raider in 2000, are said to have renamed a temple after her..."

Because of those two words, I'm inclined to think this story is so much arse-gravy.

xXhayleyroxXx
26-11-10, 15:41
Old Brahma reminds me of bras... so I say yay to it being named after her :tmb:

TR FAN 18
26-11-10, 15:44
WTF? You can't just rename a 12TH CENTURY temple. Angelina Jolie Temple? Why?!

snork
26-11-10, 15:49
Well, why should Cambodians not be allowed to as embarrassingly worship any Hollywood broad as everybody else.

I can see the idea of using AJ's name to raise interest -> money , though.
I mean, when was the last time Cambodia made it into the news, I mean that kind of news and glamour papers that reaches people who follow more Hollywood-news than "real" news ?

I wonder if AJ will accept this offer.

Alpharaider47
26-11-10, 16:02
^^ If she does, she should at least make a point to get some attention to the place :p But then maybe that was these guy's intention...

the ancient
26-11-10, 17:01
^
They want her cash and profile to help preserve the site tho.


Pretty sad anyway, I prefer the proper name although I'm sure some would worship at the Temple of Angelina.:p

true



I have been inside Angelina Jolie O.o
that would be strange no?

Avalon SARL
26-11-10, 17:09
OMG

I love AJ so much, but although I think renaming the temple AJ, as much as exciting and great it is,as much as it is :yik: WTF... Why? :p

Chocola teapot
26-11-10, 17:20
How Wonderful.

:vlol:

Spong
26-11-10, 17:43
I have been inside Angelina Jolie O.o

...and she was full of cobwebs.

LOL, that's a novel way of seeing this story.

silver_wolf
26-11-10, 17:46
Ridiculous lol.

Lizard of Oz
26-11-10, 19:26
Neat! I must go there ASAP! :D

Tombraiderx08
27-11-10, 00:12
A temple, named after a celebrity? Suuuure the world doesn't worship celebrities. Blah.

trXD
27-11-10, 00:14
*Sigh...*

To my fellow OXFAM members and Aid workers;

Looks like you risking your lives out there day in and day out, dodging mines, rescuing people and even bringing people back from the brink of death doesn't qualifies you as "saints."

However, getting a movie deal and parading around a few mock up props does.

I am so sorry... But the world is just this stupid.

Erm... do you know the first thing about Angelina and Cambodia? She has done an incredible amount for it, and has invested much more money into it than any non-rich person could.

xXhayleyroxXx
27-11-10, 00:15
Erm... do you know the first thing about Angelina and Cambodia? She has done an incredible amount for it, and has invested much more money into it than any non-rich person could.

And that's why I love her <3 She actually cares about poverty.

Catapharact
27-11-10, 00:23
Erm... do you know the first thing about Angelina and Cambodia? She has done an incredible amount for it, and has invested much more money into it than any non-rich person could.

If she actually gets down and dirty within the region; i.e. Works in aid camps deep with in troubled territories, crosses fields everyday which could be littered by God knows how many mines, has to face up to jackassed limp d***ed radical socialist reform groups like Khmer Rouge, Drug smugglers and Pirates who make off with supplies, rape their own women and kidnap aid workers (and in most situations; Kill them) then I would say that she has... some merit for getting a temple named after her.

Until then... She isn't half as near brave or worthy as the people who have the balls to go in and aid people in the most extreme and dangerous of circumstances.

Rai
27-11-10, 00:24
Sure, it's great that she cares about poverty and puts her name and money to charitable causes. She's also a fine actress.

To be honest, naming a temple after her or any celebrity is just not on, imo. If it were, word of mouth, you know, like a general term, then heho, whatever, but hopefully this will remain unofficial: As in, it won't be in guide books as Angelina Jolie Temple etc. Let the ancient temple keep it's traditional name.

Alpharaider47
27-11-10, 00:32
Sure, it's great that she cares about poverty and puts her name and money to charitable causes. She's also a fine actress.

To be honest, naming a temple after her or any celebrity is just not on, imo. If it were, word of mouth, you know, like a general term, then heho, whatever, but hopefully this will remain unofficial: As in, it won't be in guide books as Angelina Jolie Temple etc. Let the ancient temple keep it's traditional name.

Exactly, it should be remembered for it's own history, not as part of someone else's.

Cat, I think you've got a pretty good point as well. She's a great actress and she does some nice things, but there are people in this world who aren't recognized for the lasting sacrifices that they make for others.

larafan25
27-11-10, 00:34
If she actually gets down and dirty within the region; i.e. Works in aid camps deep with in troubled territories, crosses fields everyday which could be littered by God knows how many mines, has to face up to jackassed limp d***ed radical socialist reform groups like Khmer Rouge who make off with supplies, rape their own women and kidnap aid workers (and in most situations; Kill them) then I would say that she has... some merit for getting a temple named after her.

Until then... She isn't half as near brave or worthy as the people who have the balls to go in and aid people in the most extreme and dangerous of circumstances.

What do I get for putting up with all of you?

Alpharaider47
27-11-10, 00:35
What do I get for putting up with all of you?

Satisfaction :p

Catapharact
27-11-10, 00:35
What do I get for putting up with all of you?

I can ask you the same question.

Killercowz
27-11-10, 00:40
"Today, local restaurants sell a Tomb Raider cocktail..."


Tomb Raider even has it's own cocktail.

My, my, my.

trlestew
27-11-10, 00:49
What is this madness!? :eek:

patriots88888
27-11-10, 01:08
Maybe there's some symbolic reference to all of this. She is getting old... in more ways than one I might add.

trXD
27-11-10, 01:23
If she actually gets down and dirty within the region; i.e. Works in aid camps deep with in troubled territories, crosses fields everyday which could be littered by God knows how many mines, has to face up to jackassed limp d***ed radical socialist reform groups like Khmer Rouge, Drug smugglers and Pirates who make off with supplies, rape their own women and kidnap aid workers (and in most situations; Kill them) then I would say that she has... some merit for getting a temple named after her.

Until then... She isn't half as near brave or worthy as the people who have the balls to go in and aid people in the most extreme and dangerous of circumstances.

She does, she works alongside the aid workers, as well as putting a huge amount of money into the red cross.

With her money and help she has saved an absolutely huge amount of lives, how can you say she has no merit for being celebrated by the people? They love her for a reason, they know all this new help they are getting is because of her.

larafan25
27-11-10, 01:31
How about that Derby street being re-named after LC.:pi:

How do we feel about that?:pi:

Catapharact
27-11-10, 01:32
She does, she works alongside the aid workers, as well as putting a huge amount of money into the red cross.

LMAO! Works along? Visiting camps for a once-over does not counts as "working along side" workers.

With her money and help she has saved an absolutely huge amount of lives, how can you say she has no merit for being celebrated by the people? They love her for a reason, they know all this new help they are getting is because of her.

They are living right now because of efforts of good people and organizations like Doctors without Borders whose members and specialists go in these zones to help people... I am grateful for what Jolie does... Infact I don't think the average gimp can even pick out Cambodia on a map. But in no way is she a "saint" and in no way she she should get recognition for something others believe in so much to put their own selves at risk for doing.

I find it insulting to tell you the truth.

TRfan23
27-11-10, 01:37
She does, she works alongside the aid workers, as well as putting a huge amount of money into the red cross.

With her money and help she has saved an absolutely huge amount of lives, how can you say she has no merit for being celebrated by the people? They love her for a reason, they know all this new help they are getting is because of her.

Personally I respect Mother Teresa more then her in this case ;)

Shark_Blade
27-11-10, 01:42
A big LOL. What's next, a pyramid renamed after Megan Fox?

larafan25
27-11-10, 01:46
A big LOL. What's next, a pyramid renamed after Megan Fox?

What did Megan Fox do?:)

IceColdLaraCroft
27-11-10, 01:47
I think it's more that this is it's official unofficial nickname rather than actually legally/officially renaming the temple.

trXD
27-11-10, 01:50
LMAO! Works along? Visiting camps for a once-over does not counts as "working along side" workers.



They are living right now because of efforts of good people and organizations like Doctors without Borders whose members and specialists go in these zones to help people... I am grateful for what Jolie does... Infact I don't think the average gimp can even pick out Cambodia on a map. But in no way is she a "saint" and in no way she she should get recognition for something others believe in so much to put their own selves at risk for doing.

I find it insulting to tell you the truth.

What exactly does constitute as "working alongside" then? Walking through a mine field? She hasn't done that I admit.

I actually see where your coming from, but in such terrible circumstances, the result does mean more than the process. Jolie has done a million times more than the people you are talking about, and luckily she hasn't had to seriously hurt herself in the process, but does that mean she shouldn't be recognised? Obviously you think so, but I completley disagree and obviously the people she is helping do too.

larafan25
27-11-10, 01:53
I actually think if there is a problem with this respect going to Angelina, then the problem is not with her, it's with the people who are being helped. clearly they are not appreciating the people who help them more, or so it seems people are trying to get at?:confused:

Alpharaider47
27-11-10, 01:54
What exactly does constitute as "working alongside" then? Walking through a mine field? She hasn't done that I admit.

I actually see where your coming from, but in such terrible circumstances, the result does mean more than the process. Jolie has done a million times more than the people you are talking about, and luckily she hasn't had to seriously hurt herself in the process, but does that mean she shouldn't be recognised? Obviously you think so, but I completley disagree and obviously the people she is helping do too.

Eh I'mma call BS here, I don't think a working mom and actress can compete with people who make a living providing aid for others. She no doubt does a lot more than most of us, and I don't mean to discredit that or anything, but still.

Catapharact
27-11-10, 01:58
I actually see where your coming from, but in such terrible circumstances, the result does mean more than the process. Jolie has done a million times more than the people you are talking about, and luckily she hasn't had to seriously hurt herself in the process

Bull! She has provided others with the means to do their work... She hasn't done the work herself! That's like me being a manager claims that I did all the manufacturing work and the R&D research work for those who I supervise or provide the means for. I occasionally aid them with their work but I definitely will not claim their success as mines. They do way more than I do...

Same scenario applies to Jolie.

Shark_Blade
27-11-10, 02:01
What did Megan Fox do?:)
Did a Transformers 2 film which involves pyramids. Much like Angie doing a tr movie which involves Cambodian temples.

trXD
27-11-10, 02:10
Eh I'mma call BS here, I don't think a working mom and actress can compete with people who make a living providing aid for others. She no doubt does a lot more than most of us, and I don't mean to discredit that or anything, but still.
What? Are you saying she hasn't achieved a huge amount more than most activists in terms of helping cambodia or not?

Bull! She has provided others with the means to do their work... She hasn't done the work herself! That's like me being a manager claims that I did all the manufacturing work and the R&D research work for those who I supervise or provide the means for. I occasionally aid them with their work but I definitely will not claim their success as mines. They do way more than I do...

Same scenario applies to Jolie.

That is completely different, she is not a manager! She did more than organise this stuff, she made it possible in the first place, she set up a whole organisation. Don't act as though she clicked her fingers and the company rose from the ground and started saving people, becuase I don't want to see you act stupid enough to say that's how simple it is

No she did not friggin pick out the mines herself, she did something that wasn't as difficult but had a much greater effect.

Is there any reason for her to literally do that dangerous stuff? When she can do a great deal more by not putting herself in danger? If you are seriously saying she should do all she does and endanger herself, that's where this conversation ends, because no matter how I look at it that would be pointless and stupid with the power she has. If she dies her children would be without a mother.

voltz
27-11-10, 02:12
Rajan Zed, the president of the Universal Society of Hinduism, told the WENN news agency that the star is so beloved in Cambodia a world-famous Hindu religious site in Angkor has been renamed the "Angelina Jolie Temple".

http://knowyourmeme.com/system/icons/554/original/facepalm.jpg?1248715065

Alpharaider47
27-11-10, 02:15
What? Are you saying she hasn't achieved a huge amount more than most activists in terms of helping cambodia or not?


No, I mean I don't think she's capable of doing as much more work than organizations whose entire job is to provide aid to people like it seemed in your wording.

Catapharact
27-11-10, 02:16
That is completely different, she is not a manager! She did more than organise this stuff, she made it possible in the first place, she set up a whole organisation. Don't act as though she clicked her fingers and the company rose from the ground and started saving people, becuase I don't want to see you act stupid enough to say that's how simple it is

No she did not friggin pick out the mines herself, she did something that wasn't as difficult but had a much greater effect.

You are saying as if she organized the efforts that are happening right now in Cambodia.... I think this moment merits a huge facepalm.

Are you that ignorant about world aid efforts? OXFAM, Doctors without Borders, UN agencies and countless other private organizations out there have been hammering away at the problems decades before Jolie even stepped foot in the country. All she did is provide money to Organizations like UNHRDC and have have acted as a UN liaison and ambassador. Sadly enough, I am assuming that this is the only reason why people like you have even taken an interest in the region and what's happening there. If that is so, then I have to say... I am greatly ashamed that the general public has no idea as to who does the REAL work in the region.

So get off the Jolie worship bandwagon.



Is there any reason for her to literally do that dangerous stuff? When she can do a great deal more by not putting herself in danger? If you are seriously saying she should do all she does and endanger herself, that's where this conversation ends, because no matter how I look at it that would be pointless and stupid with the power she has. If she dies her children would be without a mother.

For something as huge as getting a temple named after you and people crediting you as a "saint?" YES! You had better do atleast HALF of what I mentioned in my earlier post. Offcourse, she won't put herself in risk to do all of that; She has other priorities and duties towards other people in her life; But she is no saint... And she certainly doesn't deserves credit for what others are doing and are willing to put their lives at risk for.

END.OF.STORY

trXD
27-11-10, 02:23
You are saying as if she organized the efforts that are happening right now in Cambodia.... I think this moment merits a huge facepalm.

Are you that ignorant about world aid efforts? OXFAM, Doctors without Borders, UN agencies and countless other private organizations out there have been hammering away at the problems decades before Jolie even stepped foot in the country. All she did is provide money to Organizations like UNHRDC and have have acted as a UN liaison and ambassador. Sadly enough, I am assuming that this is the only reason why people like you have even taken an interest in the region and what's happening there. If that is so, then I have to say... I am greatly ashamed that the general public has no idea as to who does the REAL work in the region.

So get off the Jolie worship bandwagon.

Seriously Cat, why the heck do you assume such stupid stuff.

Did I say she was the first or the best? I said she was making more difference than the individual Aid workers, because of course she is. She has made a huge amount of difference, and if the locals want to nickname a temple the 'Angelina Temple' that is completeley justified, and I can't believe you are saying she hasn't made enough difference to deserve such affection.


For something as huge as getting a temple named after you and people crediting you as a "saint?" YES! You had better do atleast HALF of what I mentioned in my earlier post.

Like I said before, it's about the result not the process. She has the power to make soooo much more of a difference than individual people putting themselves in danger whilst not putting herself in danger, and you are saying even though she has the power to do this, she should also be doing the terrible stuff, which IS pointless.

Alpharaider47
27-11-10, 02:24
I am greatly ashamed that the general public has no idea as to who does the REAL work in the region.


Cambodia really has so much to offer, the archaeology, the history :p Fascinating place. I really enjoyed learning about it in anthropology- a class I think more people should take :p You ever hear of Cambodian Rock? Interesting stuff! It's a shame people don't take more of an interest in that.

Catapharact
27-11-10, 02:27
Seriously Cat, why the heck do you assume such stupid stuff.

Truthfully speaking? Sadly, you guys don't exactly raise the bar high enough for me to assume the best in some of you. And your posts are proving just that.

Did I say she was the first or the best? I said she was making more difference than the individual Aid workers, because of course she is. She has made a huge amount of difference, and if the locals want to nickname a temple the 'Angelina Temple' that is completeley justified, and I can't believe you are saying she hasn't made enough difference to deserve such affection.

And this is why efforts of those who REALLY do work in the region will remain unnoticed and their sacrifices will all be in vain... Because the general population would rather follow upon the antics of some actress rather than give thanks to the real organizations that do the real work.

Justified? Ha! I would want to have a little talk with a few high officials in Cambodia and tell em to screw their heads on right.

Cambodia really has so much to offer, the archaeology, the history :p Fascinating place. I really enjoyed learning about it in anthropology- a class I think more people should take :p You ever hear of Cambodian Rock? Interesting stuff! It's a shame people don't take more of an interest in that.

It is... But its the 6 million mines that are still buried there as well as the douches who are slaughtering people in the region that concern me more.

trXD
27-11-10, 02:34
And this is why efforts of those who REALLY do work in the region will remain unnoticed and their sacrifices will all be in vain... Because the general population would rather follow upon the antics of some actress rather than give thanks to the real organizations that do the real work.

Justified? Ha! I would want to have a little talk with a few high officials in Cambodia and tell em to screw their heads on right.

The bottom line is, she has made a huge difference that has greatly improved the quality of a lot of peoples lives, she hasn't done the dirty work because luckily she doesn't need to to make a difference unlike some. There are people who spend their entire lives doing more work for cambodia than she does but will never achieve as much, but that's just how it is, those people don't get temples named after them because they aren't fortunate enough to do so much so quickly.

You obviously think someone who does a lot of work but doesn't achieve much should get the affections of the people rather than someone who works not as much but makes more of a difference. But that is just not possible in this situation, these people can't afford to care, they are going to love the people who have helped them the most.

Truthfully speaking? Sadly, you guys don't exactly raise the bar high enough for me to assume the best in some of you. And your posts are proving just that.

I'm not being nasty for the sake of it Cat, and I rarely say something so personal, but honestly, you need to grow up, your 24 years old.

Catapharact
27-11-10, 02:37
The bottom line is

I have already given you the bottom line:


For something as huge as getting a temple named after you and people crediting you as a "saint?" YES! You had better do atleast HALF of what I mentioned in my earlier post. Offcourse, she won't put herself in risk to do all of that; She has other priorities and duties towards other people in her life; But she is no saint... And she certainly doesn't deserves credit for what others are doing and are willing to put their lives at risk for.

END.OF.STORY

EDIT:


I'm not being nasty for the sake of it Cat, and I rarely say something so personal, but honestly, you need to grow up, your 24 years old.

26 actually. And I am not the one who is blindly backing some actress and crediting her as the one who does the MOST work in the region based on a few meet and greets and donations. In NO way has she done half the work that a doctor does in one day in that region; Saving God knows how many lives and giving in their time and expertise to better the situation in the region by ACTUALLY being there in person. For someone to credit someone's donation with the effort of a specialist and a worker in the region risking their own lives for the betterment of a life of another person is just plain asinine.

But I am sure the families of the aid workers who lost their lives doing such jobs will love to hear you say all of what you have said about Angelina Jolie to them.

jjbennett
27-11-10, 02:42
I'd imagine that if you asked her about it Cat she'd mention the people who deal with things in Cambodia on a day to day basis. She's had this named after her, yes because she has done a lot of good, you can't really deny that, and yes, there are people who have probably done a lot more, but lets face it, Angelina is pretty, she's famous, it makes news that people want to hear and go "aww" too.

QiX
27-11-10, 02:42
No matter how they love her in Cambodia, this is just wrong. It's a temple almost one thousand years old, they shouldn't do that! How would it be if the Pope changed the name of the Sistine Chapel to Mel Gibson Chapel? It would sound like a stupid idea, wouldn't it?

http://assets.thecomeupbmx.net/5/55/1000x500px-LL-550e9d60_facepalm_statue.jpg

trXD
27-11-10, 02:43
I have already given you the bottom line:
... Seriously? Is that how your gonna back out? Just ignore what I said?

I didn't really expect anything more mature to be honest, if you don't want to reply to what I said then don't, but don't act as though what you said makes my argument invalid.

Legend of Lara
27-11-10, 02:43
They should rename

a temple

after Ke$ha.

It'd be

like

The Temple of Glitter Vomit Auto-Tune.

Everyone

and their mother

would be so very

pleased.

Alpharaider47
27-11-10, 02:46
It is... But its the 6 million mines that are still buried there as well as the douches who are slaughtering people in the region that concern me more.

Well, we can't win em all :p

Catapharact
27-11-10, 02:49
I'd imagine that if you asked her about it Cat she'd mention the people who deal with things in Cambodia on a day to day basis. She's had this named after her, yes because she has done a lot of good, you can't really deny that, and yes, there are people who have probably done a lot more, but lets face it, Angelina is pretty, she's famous, it makes news that people want to hear and go "aww" too.

I am not denying that and I would love it if she makes a public announcement about this and actually DECLINE their offer to name the temple after her for the reasons I mentioned; And I am sure that the Cambodian locals will agree with her...

But I am sure her publicist will tell her not to do that :cen:.

*Sigh...* All the more reason why I prefer being around people of religion; Atleast there are religion based organizations working to aid people in such hell holes.

... Seriously? Is that how your gonna back out? Just ignore what I said?

I didn't really expect anything more mature to be honest, if you don't want to reply to what I said then don't, but don't act as though what you said makes my argument invalid.

Read my edit.

Killercowz
27-11-10, 02:50
They should rename

a temple

after Ke$ha.

It'd be

like

The Temple of Glitter Vomit Auto-Tune.

Everyone

and their mother

would be so very

pleased.

Temple Gaga. :cool:

trXD
27-11-10, 02:56
Read my edit. You seem to be doing many of yours quite often.

Erm, you edited after my post, what was the point in that?


26 actually. And I am not the one who is blindly backing some actress and crediting her as the one who does the MOST work in the region based on a few meet and greets and donations. In NO way has she done half the work that a doctor does in one day in that region; Saving God knows how many lives and giving in their time and expertise to better the situation in the region by ACTUALLY being there in person. For someone to credit someone's donation with the effort of a specialist and a worker in the region risking their own lives for the betterment of a life of another person is just plain asinine.

Do you even understand what I'm saying? For the third time I'll say it, she hasn't done as much actual work as some aid workers, although she has still done a lot, but she has managed to make much more of a difference than most, just with less work.

Now do you get it? I'm not saying anything you just told me I am. I have even specifically said she has not done as much work as others, but that's not the point, its the results.

Catapharact
27-11-10, 02:59
Do you even understand what I'm saying? For the third time I'll say it, she hasn't done as much actual work as some aid workers, although she has still done a lot, but she has managed to make much more of a difference than most, just with less work.

Now do you get it? I'm not saying anything you just told me I am. I have even specifically said she has not done as much work as others, but that's not the point, its the results.

And do you get what I AM saying? Her donations only helped those people who are ALREADY doing the REAL work in the region out. THEY deserve most of the credit; NOT HER. And its because of this reason (and others in this thread who have similar opinions) that the temple shouldn't be named after her.

She did contribute... No doubt... But not to the point where she deserves an ancient temple named after her.

Get it? Got it? Good.

Legend of Lara
27-11-10, 03:04
Temple Gaga. :cool:

Tra$ha is funnier.

Killercowz
27-11-10, 03:04
This argument is gettin good.

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Tra$ha is funnier.
Haahahah! :D

trXD
27-11-10, 03:06
And do you get what I AM saying? Her donations only helped those people who are ALREADY doing the REAL work in the region out. THEY deserve most of the credit; NOT HER. And its because of this reason (and others in this thread who have similar opinions) that the temple shouldn't be named after her.

She did contribute... No doubt... But not to the point where she deserves a Temple.

Get it? Got it? Good.

How could you possibly think I didn't understand what you were saying? I adressed it directly.

You obviously think of trying as more important than the actual good you do. Angelina alone did more good than any of the common Aid workers who are doing the "real" work, luckily for her she didn't have to hurt herself to accomplish this, because she's lucky, but she tried her hardest and produced the best result and that is why I think its completely justified that the people respect her to the point of nicknaming a temple after her.

Like I have said, I can't remember how many times now, you think people who have done more work than jolie for cambodia but haven't done as good should get the affections of the people rather than jolie who has done less work but produced better results. And, again like I have said, this is where our opinon completley splits.

Catapharact
27-11-10, 03:15
How could you possibly think I didn't understand what you were saying? I adressed it directly.

You obviously think of trying as more important than the actual good you do. Angelina alone did more good than any of the common Aid workers who are doing the "real" work, luckily for her she didn't have to hurt herself to accomplish this, because she's lucky, but she tried her hardest and produced the best result and that is why I think its completely justified that the people respect her to the point of nicknaming a temple after her.

Like I have said, I can't remember how many times now, you think people who have done more work than jolie for cambodia but haven't done as good should get the affections of the people rather than jolie who has done less work but produced better results. And, again like I have said, this is where our opinon completley splits.

So you see where the problem lies.

If this is indeed your reasoning, then (and take this opinion as you will) I just can't respect people such as you and by the opinions I have seen thus far in this thread, I am hoping that there is a good enough majority that agrees with the fact that there is no way in hell that she deserves to have a 12th century Temple renamed after her. I would have to say that you really need to look into what the average aid worker has to deal with day in and day out to actually appreciate what they do and the risks they take.

If opinions such as yours were the core thinking behind aid organizations and the efforts they put in their work, then majority of the aid workers would have quit a long time ago... However they are still working and still doing their jobs... And I will keep appreciating them more so then some gimpy actress.

trXD
27-11-10, 03:24
So you see where the problem lies.

If this is indeed your reasoning, then (and take this opinion as you will) I just can't respect people such as you and by the opinions I have seen thus far in this thread, I am hoping that there is a good enough majority that agrees with the fact that there is no way in hell that she deserves to have a 12th century Temple renamed after her. I would have to say that you really need to look into what the average aid worker has to deal with day in and day out to actually appreciate what they do and the risks they take.

If opinions such as yours were the core thinking behind aid organizations and the efforts they put in their work, then majority of the aid workers would have quit a long time ago... However they are still working and still doing their jobs... And I will keep appreciating them more so then some gimpy actress.

Wow that's dramatic, the temple wasn't even renamed after her, it's just a nickname by the locals. I'm just saying she deserves the to be loved by the people, like everyone who works for cambodia does.

All of the aid workers deserve to be seen as saint by Cambodia, but obviously that couldn't happen, they are focusing on angelina because she is the one that is giving them a hell of a lot, just because others deserve to be respected too doesn't mean angelina doesn't.

jaywalker
27-11-10, 08:49
Guys you both need to realise that you can differ in view and not have to snipe with your comments as if the other is dumb for not agreeing with your view.

Ever heard of 30 St Mary Axe or the Swiss Re building? Maybe not but have you heard of the Gherkin? That's the nickname that everyone knows it by but doesn't change its real name does it.

Aj has raised the profile of a lot of people's plights and other countries needs. You don't have to always be in the field to make a difference. I have friends who have gone to places to do aide work and have got hands dirty etc I Haven't had the chance to do so therefore I contribute by doing as much fund raising as I can. Different approach but same result aimed for.

Am sure the cambodian people are eternally grateful for all the help they getting be it from people on the ground or Hollywood celebs putting their story to people who don't know the world exists past their street :)

Pietras
27-11-10, 14:31
Temple Gaga. :cool:

A temple of crap pop music and stolen wardrobe?

Squibbly
27-11-10, 14:46
This is silly.

It's my understanding right now that this is not an official name for the temple, just a nickname by locals. That's not so bad. If it was changed officially, I'd find something a bit off with that.

Lara Croft!
27-11-10, 15:16
Her going there gave the place a lot of publicity and the tourism was raised. So I only find it natural.

IceColdLaraCroft
27-11-10, 15:38
This is silly.

It's my understanding right now that this is not an official name for the temple, just a nickname by locals. That's not so bad. If it was changed officially, I'd find something a bit off with that.

exactly. apparently some people didn't fully read the very short article.


Her going there gave the place a lot of publicity and the tourism was raised. So I only find it natural.

There's also the fact that before Tomb Raider a lot of people associated Cambodia with war and genocide. Vietnam only withdrew in 1991. The movie brought a lot of GOOD publicity for the country and Angie has gone out of her way. She doesn't need to spend her money in cambodia, but she does.

I remember an article that said she had bought up a lot of land for tiger preserves and spent/donated a lot of money to clearing land mines and unexploded bombs from the US military. A VERY big problem in cambodia as more bombs were dropped in Cambodia during the Vietnam war than all the bombs dropped in WWII.

This issue of renaming the temple (unofficially) is more of Cambodia using her celebrity status and the fact that her son is Khmer than what Angie did or didn't do.


There is the bigger issue that Ta Phrom is falling apart and there are issues of financing. China has helped Cambodia rebuild a number of temples, but money is tight.

aussie500
28-11-10, 02:36
Some very strange opinions some of us have. :confused:

No one is worshipping Angelina in this temple, it really has nothing to do with any aid work people are or are not doing or how much of it they do. The locals refer to it as the Angelina Jolie temple, why not? That is why so many tourists are treking over there to look at the temple, because they want to see where Angelina filmed part of Tomb Raider. They saw it in the movie and want to see it for themselves. Calling it the Tomb Raider temple would not get as much publicity, although some probably do call it that. Tomb Raider is not that popular, Angelina Jolie is, and does not mind helping out a worthy cause. The locals want their temple preserved, the publicity alone can help that even if Angelina does nothing. It seems pretty arrogant to me that some think they can tell people what they can and cannot call something in their own province. The official name has not been changed, the temples history has not been changed, it is a local land mark often referred to as the Angelina Jolia temple, probably the tourists started it and it has stuck. Why not make use of the name, why not cash in on it and see if they can get some help preserving such a beautiful temple.