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Melonie Tomb Raider
26-10-04, 06:32
I don't know about you, but I get so sick and tired of doing picture searches for Lara Croft and instead of getting pictures of Lara all of these pictures of AJ or perv fan pics of Lara dressed like a hooker. It makes me so sick! Lara is not some "boy toy". She is a strong, soncfident woman. The pictures I posted are what I like to see and to me, are prime exampled of the REAL Lara. Strong, Confident, beautiful ( not slutty), and reaks attitude. That is Lara! I hope that CD will keep Core's trend of making Lara like this and not what other people make her out to be. Lara is not AJ and Lara is not a slut, Core knew that and I hope CD can do the same.TR AOD was one of the best when it came to Lara's personality. She was strictly business, no messin' around and posing with barely any clothes on. Any way, enough talk, http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/silent.gif enjoy the pics.( I got these pics from the one and only tombraiderchronicles.com of course http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif )

http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/images/tlr_wallpaper2/tombraider4_02_thumb.jpg

http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/images/tlr_wallpaper2/tombraider4_10_thumb.jpg

http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/images/angelofdarkness_wallpaper1/wallpaper40_small.jpg

http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/images/angelofdarkness_wallpaper1/wallpaper44_small.jpg

http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/images/angelofdarkness_wallpaper1/wallpaper43_small.jpg

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croft28
26-10-04, 08:20
Yes, she is strong and intelligent, but at the same time, the creaters also gave her HUGE boobs and ALOT of sex appeal.

I dont think that's a bad thing, but of course men (and some woman) will be more attracted to the perv factor of her rather then the other attributes she has.

Anyway, it doesnt even matter at the end of the day, she isnt even real. I can understand if people find her sexy, i think she is, but to actually get off on nude pics of her and stuff?...........come on, it's a bit desperate.

SpArKy
26-10-04, 13:48
Nice pictures, thanks!

TheEveningStar
26-10-04, 14:05
thanks for the pics! and for sharing your opinion! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

nerdalicious
26-10-04, 14:31
I find her boobs get in the way when I am playing-anyone else find this :confused: I am sitting in front of the tv cursing " damn boobs" my roomate looks at me and asks what kind of game I am playing, and the moaning and grunting, I assume a man designed this game http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif

bumb1ebee
26-10-04, 15:49
It's kind of hard NOT to look at Lara as a slut. What did Core do, accidently give Lara huge boobies? Accidently dressed her in incredibly short shorts?

She's a video game sex icon, get over it (not trying to be rude).

New-Raider
26-10-04, 17:05
Originally posted by croft28:
Yes, she is strong and intelligent, but at the same time, the creaters also gave her HUGE boobs and ALOT of sex appeal.

I dont think that's a bad thing, but of course men (and some woman) will be more attracted to the perv factor of her rather then the other attributes she has.Hey, I'm a man, and I don't find the hardcore pics of her sexy at all.
On a real woman or digital, suggestive poses naked (must include motion) are enough to arouse me, but the kinki stuff they have Lara doing just makes my stomach turn.

Besides the "SEX SELLS" factor, I don't think a game of the D!ck Tracy genre would ever be believable without sex appeal.

The exclamation point is to get by the automatic censor only.
It does not mean I'm trying to get away with something.

New-Raider
26-10-04, 17:13
Originally posted by bumb1ebee:
It's kind of hard NOT to look at Lara as a slut. What did Core do, accidently give Lara huge boobies? Accidently dressed her in incredibly short shorts?

She's a video game sex icon, get over it (not trying to be rude).I for one resent that remark.
Although I am not a fan of Pamela Anderson, I respect her decision to get a boob job that furthers her carreer.
She has admited to having multiple sex partners (not at the same time) partying at Playboy, but she is not a slut in the in the strictest sense of the word.

Soma Holiday
26-10-04, 17:19
I think these idiots who have the time to actually mock up a nude picture of a fake character, and especially the whole Nude Raider thing need to get a life. Stuff like that is to be expected, but what I hate are the official photos of her without clothes on, like the ones where she's on the beah or is hugging the pillow, the things Core released-so stupid, and just trying to sell things.

But I hate the whole AJ thing worst of ALL!!! I get SOO mad when I mention Lara at school and everyone say, I loved or hated that movie, or AJ is soo pretty. Maybe I'm not talking about the movie! Maybe I'm talking about the game lara, the real lara.

ARGGHHHH!!

I have to admit however, that I am proud of Core fot not having Lara run around in the game with a low cut shirt, or a bikini. It is soo stupid to play like Mortal Kombat, and all the female characters have literally NO clothes on.
A real person would realize that huge boobs and jumping around don't mix
Unless that is part of their strategy ofcourse http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif

Melonie Tomb Raider
26-10-04, 17:47
I TOTALLY agree Soma! You see, the unofficial nude raider stuff is so lame, and whoever does stuff like that seriously need a life. But if they want to be dumb then they can, it doesn't bother me, but like you said, it's the official stuff that makes me sick! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yuck.gif The picture of Lara nude hugging a pillow, Lara nude with a blanket and shadows coverring her, those pictures are what I despise! Core expected people not to make nude raider, well if they'd have not done pictures like that then maybe the nude raider stuff wouldn't be near as popular.

One reason why I like AOD so much is that Core didn't make not even ONE picture of Lara nude or semi nude, and I admired that. Also, like you said, I am so glad that they didn't make Lara wearing any super low cut shirts or bikinis. She wears real clothes! Sure, her shorts are a little short, but not too short in my oppinion. Nothing's hangin out of them, so that's fine lol.

And also, some of you are acting like I think Lara can't even look attractive or "sexy" if you will. I don't think that at all. They made Lara very attractive ( She would look a lot better if her chest was a realistic size though) and that's not a bad thing at all. It's just the way she acts or dresses is the big issue. I just don't like to see any slutty clothes or slutty poses.

Any way, back to another thing Soma said. What I also hate the most is when if you ever say something about Lara Croft to any one they think you are talking about AJ. That makes me so SICK! AJ is NOT Lara and she never will be! She just played her in two movies, just like Jonelle Eliotte (sp?) is not Lara, she just does her voice. Seriously, you can't even do a google picture search without getting mostly AJ pics. That just makes me so mad! When I type "Lara Croft" in the search bar I expect to see Lara Croft not AJ.

I heard a rumor that CD was trying to get Lara to look and sound like AJ, and if they do I will NOT play the next game! As much as I love TR I will not play it if Lara Croft is AJ, I want to play a game with Lara not AJ. But I think it's just a false rumor, which is a relief. I have some faith in CD, and I hope they won't let us TR fans down. If they do then I hope Ubisoft buys Eidos like they planned.

I think Ubisoft can make an AWESOME TR game. In fact, they made the GBA TR game ( I didn't know this until just recently). I've read reviews from Gamespot saying TR: the Prophesy was possibly the best TR game ever made, so if Ubi can make something that amazing for the GBA just think of what they can do for the PS2. Seriously. Deep down I really hope Ubi buys Eidos because CD only plans on making 3 games and then no more TR, and I would HATE that. I think they could continue the TR legacy for a really long time. Maybe in like 5-10 years Lara can retire and have a kid and keep the legacy going until either the the games get majorly lame or the fans don't like it anymore. I'm not ready for TR to end and I won't be for a really long time! Anyway, I'm getting off topic and this is a super long post haha.

( There, I skimmed through this and did some spacing since Taz had such a prob with it.I would have madeit look better before but I only had a few minutes online. I hope Taz doesn't have a problem with it now, I'd hate to have to change it again. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-3.gif )

[ 26. October 2004, 21:08: Message edited by: Melonie Tomb Raider ]

tazmine
26-10-04, 18:31
Mel, have you ever heard of paragraphs, or spacing? It would make your posts so much easier to read.

egyptiangal
26-10-04, 18:35
Originally posted by nerdalicious:
I find her boobs get in the way when I am playing-anyone else find this :confused: I am sitting in front of the tv cursing " damn boobs" my roomate looks at me and asks what kind of game I am playing, and the moaning and grunting, I assume a man designed this game http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif I find Tomb radier games very embarassing to play around my parents hehe! BTW her boobs do shift too when she moves. Now that's rediculus that they can't get her lips moving right when she's talking but they can make her boobs shift lol.

Melonie Tomb Raider
26-10-04, 19:04
The last thing I want to do is start an argument, so I will erase this rude comment I made. Sorry everyone, I just hate being treated like dirt. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-3.gif

[ 26. October 2004, 21:01: Message edited by: Melonie Tomb Raider ]

Melonie Tomb Raider
26-10-04, 19:25
Look, before I say anything else I want to say sorry for being so sarcastic in my last post because it was a little rude. I don't mind being corrected; however, I do mind being treated like I'm an idiot. There is a right way to say something and here is a wrong way, and taz, you said it the wrong way. Of course, I didn't make things right by making a rude reply, but if you talk to people with respect then they will talk to you the same.

egyptiangal
26-10-04, 19:31
Originally posted by Melonie Tomb Raider:
Look, before I say anything else I want to say sorry for being so sarcastic in my last post because it was a little rude. I don't mind being corrected; however, I do mind being treated like I'm an idiot. There is a right way to say something and here is a wrong way, and taz, you said it the wrong way. Of course, I didn't make things right by making a rude reply, but if you talk to people with respect then they will talk to you the same.Go Mel! :D

tazmine
26-10-04, 19:42
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/silent.gif

bumb1ebee
26-10-04, 21:02
OK, well maybe "slut" isn't the right word. Sorry guys.

Soma Holiday
26-10-04, 21:10
Ok people, lets ALL calm down ;) How people post is there option so let it be, and lets all try to get along and have a 'nice' little discussion. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif
BTW, I think a lot of people like to type on a forum the way they talk, so they just keep typing because you never pause and hit enter for a paragraph when you talk. Typing that way is natural. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Back on topic,

I don't think bad things about Lara's breast size in the game, I just think it is stupid. Most developers never even care to make the guy characters faces look decent, much less their bodies, so why such an effort on female character?

I'll never forget the time I was playing AOD, and one of the final cutscenes was playing (the one with karel I think), and my brother and his friend came into the room. Instead of commenting on how cool the game the game looked, or even asking what I was playing, they instantly commented on how big Lara's breast were.

I must say however, the cover of AOD looked much better with that issue than the previous. Her size on the arts for TRLR were laughable they were so big. :rolleyes:

Angelina
26-10-04, 21:12
I for one have stayed away from those "Nude Raider" pics.....I've never even seen any of them.
And I sure DON'T want to!! :rolleyes:
Although a few days ago when I finished Chronicles and had found all the secrets and got to see some bonus stuff, what do I see, one of the pictures shows a naked Lara with just shadows covering certain parts.....and I was just like, what??? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/bash.gif
That's what I get for struggeling to find all the secrets??
I just hadn't really expected to find that as an official product.
I wish Eidos and Core had just as much respect for the "Lara character" as many of us fans have....

New-Raider
27-10-04, 01:24
Well it looks like I'm gonna have to be the voice of reason here.
"Nude Raider" VS "Lesbo Lara"
Eidos, Core, and profit
Big round boobs VS pointed ones

The Nude Raider phenomenon (1996 to November 2002), only got as controvercial as it did because she was the first gun toting leading lady in a videogame, however had it not been Lara Croft, nude gaming babes would never cease to be.
Guests would submit unauthorized kinki photos of their own, which is mainly just to see how much they can get away with.

The official Eidos and Core pics are not nude, but ALMOST nude.
She is in a bikini in the one where she is lying on the beach (Electronics Butique shelf pic), but is undressed by unauthorized sites.
A magazine ad (++Croft Times++ and Playboy) had Lara in a bikini with her holding an open bikini top.
This was the cover of Rhona Mitra's CD, titled Lara Croft - Getting Naked.
Promoting the release of Tomb Raider 2, she appears naked behind a silk curtain, and all you see is her bare shoulders and a shadow on the curtain.
She is then twisted in the curtain, and you can see bits of flesh, but that's all.
She lays down naked with her side to the camera and a silk sheet covering her chest.
The last one was for Playboy that Eidos begrugingly approved.
The original picture had no sheet over her boobs, but her arm was making a shadow.

Sexual innuendo in advertizing is what Eidos is all about.
Where would Hana from Fear Effect be without the towel drop scene?

In the quest for perfection in realism, the fans asked for ingame boobs that were not pointed like in 1 and 2.
From TR3 on she would have incredible breasts, and you've only got yourselves to blame.

As for the gallery pics (there is another like that), they were the same (can be seen online alongside little Lara taking off her T-shirt) as the sheet ones.

[ 27. October 2004, 02:27: Message edited by: New-Raider ]

Draco
27-10-04, 01:43
I think anyone offended by nudity in general has issues that are far more impactful than some artist with too much time on their hands.

TheEveningStar
27-10-04, 01:48
Originally posted by Angelina:
I for one have stayed away from those "Nude Raider" pics.....I've never even seen any of them.
....I wish Eidos and Core had just as much respect for the "Lara character" as many of us fans have....all i can say :rolleyes: :D

[ 27. October 2004, 02:49: Message edited by: TheEveningStar ]

Angelina
28-10-04, 10:44
Ok then first of all I do not have any sort of problem with nudity or feel offended by the nudity in itself,
I've gone to art school and those two things would definitely not mix... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif
I just get irritated when people seem to think that a woman or female character can't be successful or popular without getting their clothes off, so why is that then??
I think a strong, good personality and charizma have way more impact or at least it should be enough.
Is this because I'm a woman and not a man?? I don't know..... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif
For instance, if there ever was to be a game starring Kurtis Trent, would you men out there feel a bigger urge to buy that game if Kurtis had nude pictures of himself promoting that game?? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif
I doubt it.... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-3.gif

Joe_16
28-10-04, 10:55
I think it would be wrong to say that she didn't have any sex appeal what-so-ever..

Angelina
28-10-04, 11:03
Of course she has, but she has it with her clothes on as well....

Joe_16
28-10-04, 11:07
I got the game for Christmas one time, with a load of others, and what attracted me to put the game in the Playstation first before any other was the title 'Tomb Raider', and the main character just happened to be a woman..

[ 28. October 2004, 12:08: Message edited by: Joe_16 ]

Angelina
28-10-04, 11:10
It was the same for me! ;)
And this is the way it should be in my opinion.... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Joe_16
28-10-04, 11:12
Originally posted by Angelina:
It was the same for me! ;)
And this is the way it should be in my opinion.... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif Definately http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Besides, if you were just playing TR for the characters sake, you wouldn't really bother playing it all the way through.

Angelina
28-10-04, 11:21
I agree with you on that, you have to love the gameplay and the games itself to actually finish them all.
Then as a bonus, when you have played several or all the games in the series, of course your going to get some sort of "relation" to the main character....I wouldn't want any other character than Lara now for the Tomb Raider games.
That's why I think there was so much negativity when Kurtis appeared in the whole Tomb Raider concept, we don't want him taking Lara's place and so on....
Because after the whole Tomb Raider series....Lara is THE Tomb Raider! ;)

Joe_16
28-10-04, 11:25
Originally posted by Angelina:
I agree with you on that, you have to love the gameplay and the games itself to actually finish them all.
Then as a bonus, when you have played several or all the games in the series, of course your going to get some sort of "relation" to the main character....I wouldn't want any other character than Lara now for the Tomb Raider games.
That's why I think there was so much negativity when Kurtis appeared in the whole Tomb Raider concept, we don't want him taking Lara's place and so on....
Because after the whole Tomb Raider series....Lara is THE Tomb Raider! ;) I myself find it pretty cool that it's a woman. The original concept wasn't even supposed to be a woman anyways, was it?

Angelina
28-10-04, 11:34
No they hadn't decided that from the beginning that it was going to be a woman, it just happened to become one! ;)
Yes I think it's very good that the main character is a woman, I think the series have only gained on that.
That makes the series stand out, it's not just another big muscle guy running around with big guns....I doubt the series would have survived this long if it would have been like that.
It's the game itself and Lara Croft combined that makes it the great concept it is. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Joe_16
28-10-04, 11:52
Originally posted by Angelina:
No they hadn't decided that from the beginning that it was going to be a woman, it just happened to become one! ;)
Yes I think it's very good that the main character is a woman, I think the series have only gained on that.
That makes the series stand out, it's not just another big muscle guy running around with big guns....I doubt the series would have survived this long if it would have been like that.
It's the game itself and Lara Croft combined that makes it the great concept it is. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Great summary, couldn't have said it better myself.

Angelina
28-10-04, 12:06
Thanx! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
One of my teachers back in school actually told me that I should consider being a writer.... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif
;)

New-Raider
29-10-04, 01:52
Joe 16 and Angelina, I'm really glad you girls kept this thread going.
My thoughts:
It's not about nudity, but sex appeal is what sells video games as well as other media.
Being Interactive as well as watching the screen, I doubt many would want to play a woman who was fat, had wrinkles, leg stubble, and facial hair.
Could this be a good lead?
Unless the lead was an underground Russian spy, with the KGB on her tail, I don't think this would go over big.
Even spies like "La Fem Nikita" are getting sexier.

[ 29. October 2004, 03:21: Message edited by: New-Raider ]

bumb1ebee
29-10-04, 03:57
Sex appeal in video games is fine if the game is actually GOOD, like DOA.

If not, it just looks sad, pathetic, desperate, and stupid. *cough* BloodRayne *cough*