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Saman
20-07-11, 11:20
Hi!

As every one knows, recently on few Arabic countries we've seen protest by people of their countries, who ever not satisfy with present situation of his country wisp his hand, yell his sound.

They start a new movement, against to governments, they want to bring it down regime and dictator leaders.

Who can stop them? No One! I saw in media ppl die in there, feeling me upset ...

I all ready knows few members of TRF are from Arabic countries, like Mr. Tomb from Tunisia ;), please tell us what is happening and whats going on over there!

Sorry my English not so perfect as high level to talk politic, but I do!

Dennis's Mom
20-07-11, 13:50
I too am interested in "regional reports" from out TRF members who are experiencing this firsthand.

Mr Tomb
20-07-11, 14:23
thank you saman
the arab spring was one of the hardest thing i had ever to deal with, i can't explain how much we suffered, tunisia was the first country to start the revolution in late 2010 when med bouazizi burned his self , then we started doing manifestations, our first intentions was not to get rid of the president, it was because some towns felt really ignored ( like mine ), you know being the only country that did that was a very scary thing, i saw like 10 people dying in front of me and i was going to be one of them, but i'm really happy that tunisia entered the history by doing such a brave move that helped the other countries to get their freedom :D

Ward Dragon
20-07-11, 14:41
I too am interested in "regional reports" from out TRF members who are experiencing this firsthand.

Same here. A lot of these stories get reported once or twice and then I never hear a follow-up of what happened. For example, a lot of news covered the Tunisian revolution but now that I think of it I never found out if they were able to implement a better government once the revolution ended.

Edit: @ Mr Tomb: Oh my, I had the tab open too long and didn't see the new post. I'm glad you're okay :eek: Are things more stable now?

Mr Tomb
20-07-11, 14:51
Same here. A lot of these stories get reported once or twice and then I never hear a follow-up of what happened. For example, a lot of news covered the Tunisian revolution but now that I think of it I never found out if they were able to implement a better government once the revolution ended.

Edit: @ Mr Tomb: Oh my, I had the tab open too long and didn't see the new post. I'm glad you're okay :eek: Are things more stable now?
thank you for asking i'm fine now :)
3 days ago 3 people died because of our stupid police
we're planning to do more Demonstrations because the elections are going to be just fake fake fake
tunisia is in a very very big mess :(

Dennis's Mom
20-07-11, 15:11
Take heart. Such dramatic change is not going to happen overnight. I think the people of Tunisia will prevail.

Glad to hear you're OK. I'll pray things settle down soon.

Mr Tomb
20-07-11, 15:17
Take heart. Such dramatic change is not going to happen overnight. I think the people of Tunisia will prevail.

Glad to hear you're OK. I'll pray things settle down soon.
;) we're all afraid of october :( i bet it's going to be very hard
october = The Elections
and everyone wants to be the president by giving money, lying, giving false promises

Dennis's Mom
20-07-11, 15:25
That's how it is. Politics is a game. But remember, just because someone plays the game well doesn't mean they can't be a good president once elected.

Mr Tomb
20-07-11, 15:27
That's how it is. Politics is a game. But remember, just because someone plays the game well doesn't mean they can't be a good president once elected.
it's a very nasty game here, politicians are sending people to do some Demonstrations to hurt others, they're even involved in some killing cases, they're just selfish and arrogant :(

Saman
20-07-11, 18:47
I too am .....

Its good to see this from mods, however the place are looking perfect on first view, I hope its become better and better, and we talk and discussed our opinion friendly and with out fight or insulting each other!

Thank You :)


thank you saman

No problem, You're my Muslim Brother, bros are bros! We have to try help and understand each other, even I can not came up to over there, but I've support your moves for freedom in your country, no matter of our distance.

Its really horrible to see this even from TV, I cant image in LIVE, people fight they could be DIE, maybe one of them is from your family or friends. You feel empty after they death.

I've seen son of "Muammar Gaddafi" on TV, hes been told: Every thing is fine, nobody is killed! Are you joking me? Than who've been die?! Its like a classic lie, he want to ignore it and image in: Well every thing is fine, no problem but there is problem!

Like you said this is start by protest a normal citizen to the police, but hes been failed and die, now people whose really care about about their country and people doing scream of freedom, wanna punch of face of dictator, they do now! They will fight, could be DIE, but stay until their last blood glob!

Its been fantastic looking to me, they want to have better life in their country, one of them is You, I'm so proud of it.

Yes in one hand your right: Election are very important now, every thing is become an official, of course your so worries about whats happening or happened on future, I totally understand your crappy situation you have, I hope every thing I meant every thing is going fine and all right for you my friend and your people!


This is my comment for now, I've have a friend from Egypt too, he was on same situation are you have before, they past the part, now hes really worry about future and election now, however its a one of things in the revolution, you and your people need and have to keep it to point, but very carefully!


That's how it is .....


True & Right! Looking to me, like a poker game, be in smart on this game meant power, hold the joker for last! Tnx again :)


Later - Saman

Avalon SARL
20-07-11, 22:01
I am a muslim
I hope the situations get better soon, but unfortunately they haven't

It's only Egypt I guess.
The other countries however, too much killing is going on by the dictators ruling :(

Syria is full of conflicts and this is awful

What's with these presidents, killing their own people :yik:
Idiots, gonna burn eternally in Hell
:hea::hea:
Yes this proves what GOD made Hell for :cen::cen:

Mr Tomb
20-07-11, 22:29
I am a muslim
I hope the situations get better soon, but unfortunately they haven't

It's only Egypt I guess.
The other countries however, too much killing is going on by the dictators ruling :(

Syria is full of conflicts and this is awful

What's with these presidents, killing their own people :yik:
Idiots, gonna burn eternally in Hell
:hea::hea:
Yes this proves what GOD made Hell for :cen::cen:

have u forgotten about tunisia ? :ton:
yeah till now only tunisia & egypt made it :'(

Avalon SARL
20-07-11, 23:27
^ No I haven't

But it is much peaceful over there

Libya and Syria incidents are so :yik:
Scary what's going over there:(

Mr Tomb
20-07-11, 23:29
^ No I haven't

But it is much peaceful over there

Libya and Syria incidents are so :yik:
Scary what's going over there:(

who told u it's peaceful ? 2 days ago 3 mans died the police killed them
it's in a very big mess
egypt is more peaceful !
tunisia is in a big mess wherever you go there's a problem : manifestations, killing, stealing
yesterday the temporary president just made a speech to calm us down cause we're truly in a mess !
police fired muslims who were praying in the mosque ! do u even believe this ?

Zebra
21-07-11, 00:34
I'm actually waiting for the day Iran gets a new president. I mean, every single one of these countries deserves to get a better government but Ahmadinejad and his politics are just...there's not really a word bad enough to describe it.

TRfan23
21-07-11, 00:36
Request Deletion.

Mr Tomb
21-07-11, 00:40
typically iran has nothing to do with egypt , tunisia or libye
but getting a new president might affect on other countries like bahrain, syria...etc
i wish all countries can get their freedom

Zebra
21-07-11, 00:55
typically iran has nothing to do with egypt , tunisia or libye
but getting a new president might affect on other countries like bahrain, syria...etc
i wish all countries can get their freedom

Yeah, I know it doesn't have anything to do with the protests in all these countries. I just mentioned it because it's also an Arabic country with an extremly bad dictatorship.

I do think the protests are a good thing but I am kinda worried that they won't improve things all that much. A new government is not a guarantee for better laws that comply with human rights, for example (And maybe, in extremely religious countries, the majority of the population does not even want that. That would make things even more complicated).

Mr Tomb
21-07-11, 01:02
Yeah, I know it doesn't have anything to do with the protests in all these countries. I just mentioned it because it's also an Arabic country with an extremly bad dictatorship.

I do think the protests are a good thing but I am kinda worried that they won't improve things all that much. A new government is not a guarantee for better laws that comply with human rights, for example (And maybe, in extremely religious countries, the majority of the population does not even want that. That would make things even more complicated).

you're kinda right for exp my country tunisia isn't very strict when it comes to religion, other countries doesn't consider tunisia as an islamic country, i can tell 30% didn't like the revolution thing because they felt that nothing extra will happen but after ben ali run away they completly changed :hea: they act like they supported it what so ever, even our national tv were lying, so many people were dying what the tv says is basically : a bunch of thiefs tried to steal and hurt the police so they basically killed them :(
http://www.tunisitri.net/BEN%20ALI.jpg
i hate these kind of people ! they're manipulating, they just look for they're own benefits when ben ali was there they supported him but now they're acting like they were forced to like the president and they're with the "real tunisian"
http://storage.canalblog.com/81/28/346520/60794472.jpg

Avalon SARL
21-07-11, 05:36
who told u it's peaceful ? 2 days ago 3 mans died the police killed them
it's in a very big mess
egypt is more peaceful !
tunisia is in a big mess wherever you go there's a problem : manifestations, killing, stealing
yesterday the temporary president just made a speech to calm us down cause we're truly in a mess !
police fired muslims who were praying in the mosque ! do u even believe this ?

Sorry to hear that, I didn't know that :(

Yeah, I know it doesn't have anything to do with the protests in all these countries. I just mentioned it because it's also an Arabic country with an extremly bad dictatorship.

I do think the protests are a good thing but I am kinda worried that they won't improve things all that much. A new government is not a guarantee for better laws that comply with human rights, for example (And maybe, in extremely religious countries, the majority of the population does not even want that. That would make things even more complicated).

Iran isn't even an Arabic Country.
It has a policy full of hatred and lies

Saman
21-07-11, 08:07
I am a muslim .....

Yes, its good too see more Muslim bros here and they do pay attention, yes in Syria situation is not looking good, Bashar Al Assad is one of wroth president I ever seen!

And what about your WAR to Israel? Tell us about it!


egypt is more peaceful !


police fired muslims who were praying in the mosque ! do u even believe this ?

Yes, right Egypt more peace right now, I've heard from my friend from Egypt, he told me well every thing is going fine hopefully!

And No! I can not believe it! Its true murdering! I totally reject it ...

I'm actually waiting for the day Iran gets a new president.

Iran doesnt any kind of businuess with other Arabic countries, I've probably open a HUGE topic about Iran and Persia lately on this new section.

I just mentioned it because it's also an Arabic country with an extremly bad dictatorship.


WOW! That is your imagination from Iran on the Germany? You think Iran a Arabic country? Do you even read history?

Iran is a PERSIAN land! We talk Farsi and every thing is different from Arabian countries. Take this in your mind please, thank you! ...


It is a BARBARIC COUNTRY with a policy full of hatred and lies

hmm! No Its not! What was you thinking from our beauty country and people ?!!!

We aren't BARBARIAN, I'm try to ignore your words, hope you understand what you meant that to me ...

You've couldn't ignore 2500 year reach history and culture on the world, its called ... Persia ...

Later - Saman

Sharon_14
21-07-11, 08:29
It's amusing how even though this thread's related to ongoing Arabic countries' revolutions, an apparent "WAR WITH ISRAEL" is being mentioned.

Hmff, I'm not even surprised.

Forwen
21-07-11, 09:25
We aren't BARBARIAN, I'm try to ignore your words, hope you understand what you meant that to me ...


That's what I was wondering about. Non-Iranians seem to automatically assume Ahmadinejad is the worst dictator in the region, but to me it seems he simply has the worst foreign policies and international relationships. Obviously that's the facet of the government that's the most visible to foreigners, but as far as I can tell Iran is not the totalitarian Islam-crazed hellhole some people here like to imagine.

That's my impression anyway.

Saman
21-07-11, 11:18
It's amusing how even though this thread's related to ongoing Arabic countries' revolutions, an apparent "WAR WITH ISRAEL" is being mentioned.

Hmff, I'm not even surprised.

Okay! Sorry! It was a mistake I'm told that, and even I'm not satisfy, apologize! But that's the true, is int?

That's what I was wondering about. Non-Iranians seem to automatically assume Ahmadinejad is the worst dictator in the region, but to me it seems he simply has the worst foreign policies and international relationships. Obviously that's the facet of the government that's the most visible to foreigners, but as far as I can tell Iran is not the totalitarian Islam-crazed hellhole some people here like to imagine.

That's my impression anyway.



Thanks for replay, yes I know about it, but how much time I have to remain THOSE people to how Iran looks like. You right on one side: I cant talk about him much because I all ready on the trouble with my present situation on my country, but I try will explain on deep details and discussed this into the new topic on soon, but for now:

This image is made it by many years by those governments, so like people all ready knows this image before, but its not the right, you know, people thinking we're uncivil, ruttish, etc. They have a quite wrong imaginable of Persian culture, if you came visit to Iran, I'm promise you, you've seen most beautiful place and very nice people ...

Now I've ask you again: DO I LOOK A BARBARIAN? Please change your that view and thinking before say ...


At least, please guys I begging you back to topic, close this story its make me really uncomfortable, thank you :)

Avalon SARL
21-07-11, 13:36
Yes, its good too see more Muslim bros here and they do pay attention, yes in Syria situation is not looking good, Bashar Al Assad is one of wroth president I ever seen!

And what about your WAR to Israel? Tell us about it!




Yes, right Egypt more peace right now, I've heard from my friend from Egypt, he told me well every thing is going fine hopefully!

And No! I can not believe it! Its true murdering! I totally reject it ...



Iran doesnt any kind of businuess with other Arabic countries, I've probably open a HUGE topic about Iran and Persia lately on this new section.



WOW! That is your imagination from Iran on the Germany? You think Iran a Arabic country? Do you even read history?

Iran is a PERSIAN land! We talk Farsi and every thing is different from Arabian countries. Take this in your mind please, thank you! ...



hmm! No Its not! What was you thinking from our beauty country and people ?!!!

We aren't BARBARIAN, I'm try to ignore your words, hope you understand what you meant that to me ...

You've couldn't ignore 2500 year reach history and culture on the world, its called ... Persia ...

Later - Saman

Well this is the main problem
Muslims are afraid of Iran because it has nothing to do with Arabian/ islamic principles.
You're saying it yourself>>>> PERSIA... ENOUGH SAID

If really Iran wants to prove its loyalty it should stick to the truth and be in favor of doing right and justice...

Yeah they are doing this with so much loyalty:rolleyes:

PS: I am sorry, I didnt even mean to say barbaric about the people in general. I meant about the policy over there

Mr Tomb
21-07-11, 14:23
this is what just happened 5 days ago :hea:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/261485_221718781198389_140762722627329_587917_1623 727_n.jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/283927_236056686416271_118341151521159_807330_3457 779_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261567_221696417867292_140762722627329_587847_6074 200_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268895_221700741200193_140762722627329_587884_1444 892_n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/261213_220530704651403_106063522764789_576192_6277 717_n.jpg
there's a whole bunch of photos but i can't post them cause they're cruel :(

Saman
21-07-11, 15:51
Well ......

PS: I am sorry, I didnt even mean to say barbaric about the people in general. I meant about the policy over there

Aplogize accepted!

I understand what you say, but I (my self) cant do much things to proof it, maybe our leaders are the main problem not the people (they have to show this propagation), as you seen as a Persian person I've opened this topic and shown mine attention and care about what is happening to those Arabic countries, like I said I have couple Arabian friends, I'm totally cool with them!

At last thing, trust me I'm not happy with my policy situation here, but I have limitations and cant talk more.

Thanks for respect me, I hope every thing is all right in your country, I love to visit Lebanon for some day :)

this is what just happened 5 days ago :hea:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/261485_221718781198389_140762722627329_587917_1623 727_n.jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/283927_236056686416271_118341151521159_807330_3457 779_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261567_221696417867292_140762722627329_587847_6074 200_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268895_221700741200193_140762722627329_587884_1444 892_n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/261213_220530704651403_106063522764789_576192_6277 717_n.jpg
there's a whole bunch of photos but i can't post them cause they're cruel :(

oh! Thats just horrible street fighting! I know those tear gas! And whats that on highlighted red mark?

Mr Tomb
21-07-11, 17:25
Aplogize accepted!



oh! Thats just horrible street fighting! I know those tear gas! And whats that on highlighted red mark?

i don't know what's their name in english but it'a bomb that makes everyone tears apart
http://img105.herosh.com/2011/07/15/890354498.jpg
:(

Avalon SARL
21-07-11, 18:15
Aplogize accepted!

I understand what you say, but I (my self) cant do much things to proof it, maybe our leaders are the main problem not the people (they have to show this propagation), as you seen as a Persian person I've opened this topic and shown mine attention and care about what is happening to those Arabic countries, like I said I have couple Arabian friends, I'm totally cool with them!

At last thing, trust me I'm not happy with my policy situation here, but I have limitations and cant talk more.

Thanks for respect me, I hope every thing is all right in your country, I love to visit Lebanon for some day :)



Hopefully Muslims realize soon that only when they go back to their roots and unite they can win and live in peace

Originally Posted by Mr Tomb
this is what just happened 5 days ago
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1623727_n.jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._3457779_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._6074200_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1444892_n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._6277717_n.jpg
there's a whole bunch of photos but i can't post them cause they're cruel

This is horrible :mad::mad::hea:

http://img105.herosh.com/2011/07/15/890354498.jpg

This makes me want to cry :(

Mr Tomb
23-10-11, 10:01
sorry i'm gonna revive the thread :p
gaddafi finally killed & captured :D libyans got their freedoms ! the elections are gonna be after 8 months
the elections in tunisia are today :D