What Are Your Thoughts On Cosmetic Surgery [Archive]

cbragg09

29-07-11, 23:52

I think if a woman looses her breast to breast cancer, then a boob job is okay. Or if a woman is ridiculed for having small breasts all her life and gets them done to be just a little bigger for confidence is okay,

however rhinoplasty, facelifts, botox, liposuction, ect. are things that i dont really agree with because it creates this idea that beautiful people can only be made, not born. or that aging is something to be afraid of. and everyone is beautiful in there own way, weight can be lost through exercise, being active and healthy, and i think people should instead learn to accept everyone for who they are, so these people who consider plastic surgery would instead just feel confortable in their own skin

now other things, like having your teeth fixed, can also just be for confidence issues. ive had braces and i am forever thankful to have had that opportunity, otherwise my teeth would have been crowded and i never would have smiled, and therefore i wouldnt have felt happy.

of course an exception for things like a nose job, face lift, or something is 100% normal for someone who has suffered a horrible accident or medical problem

xXhayleyroxXx

29-07-11, 23:53

^ Pretty much this. I've had my front teeth fixed, which are fake, by the way xD I guess that's minor cosmetic surgery.

patriots88888

29-07-11, 23:54

Not to sound so matter of factly, but I really don't care what anyone else does with their own bodies... that includes piercings, tattoos, etc... as well. The way I look at it, their body, their choice.

b.gluch

29-07-11, 23:54

but if it makes you feel better about yourself? isnt that all that matters?

Lemmie

29-07-11, 23:55

I largely disapprove of it, because I think it reinforces a desire for people to look like airbrushed supermodels. It should be understood that some cosmetic procedures involve serious and potentially life-threatening surgery, rather than just 'getting your *****/ass/tummy done'.

Edit: However:

...I really don't care what anyone else does with their own bodies... that includes piercings, tattoos, etc... as well. The way I look at it, their body, their choice.

I would agree here.

zeussy

29-07-11, 23:57

If improving your looks will make you feel better about yourself, then I say go for it. It doesn't matter what anyone else says, life is too short to waste time obsessing over yourself.

robm_2007

29-07-11, 23:59

I had to do it :pi:

http://www.viciousenterprises.com/summersblog/jocylneafter.jpg

I'm for minor things. Like getting anything dental related (unless its those stupid ass gold teeth or jeweled teeth with diamonds or whatever). Maybe if you have a nose, ala, Gerard Depardieu adn want it to be less large, or if you are getting corrective surgery, then yes, i am for it.

You shouldnt get so much, that you look like a new person. I'm mostly against breast implants, as women who get them tend to look ridiculous. Like, more funny and comical than sexy.

zeussy

30-07-11, 00:02

robm_2007

30-07-11, 00:13

I agree with your post. You shouldn't have posted a picture of Wildenstein since she doesn't regret looking like this, and that those are the results she wanted.

Since she has recently has gotten much of it toned down, she certainly didnt like them too much :p

remote91

30-07-11, 01:01

If it makes you feel good and as long as it doesn't make you look too different then I'm cool with it.

Everyone deserves to be able to see they're reflection and be pleased with it.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bQ0SqifjNcg/THaoztSeSQI/AAAAAAAAbqU/U9SAASLf7yw/s400/tori-amos-plastic-surgery-2.jpg

Can never make my mind up on celebrities though.. especially with what Tori Amos decided to do. A majority are famous for their image - so why not just use botox and fillers to make yourself look younger if that's an issue? It's when you start doing things that are irreversible it starts to get a little weird.

Angelus

30-07-11, 01:06

I honestly don't have a problem with cosmetic surgery, but some people take it too far:

http://www.theprophetblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Julia2.jpg

^ believe it or not, that's Julia from Tatu.

remote91

30-07-11, 01:08

Holy ****.

Those sharpee eyebrows are terrible and everything just looks too big!

Dark Lugia 2

30-07-11, 01:15

If it makes you happy then props to you. Some people go overboard imo. Though it might still look better to them if they hated how much they looked before

I can't believe that's Julia! omg

remote91

30-07-11, 01:20

Would anyone in here consider having anything done?

Chemical peels look like they could be good when those pesky wrinkles start to appear..

http://www.womenrepublic.co.uk/usw/97chemical_peels-05.jpg

Cali

30-07-11, 01:21

@Julia picture: Nooo way!! When was that taken??

I think people should be allowed to have things fixed and changed, because it does give people more confidence sometimes. There is all that talk about be happy in your own skin and it's what's inside that counts, bbut society and the media and playground bullies are just completely killing that.I am kinda generalising here but it's true for the majority isn't it? Haven't we all felt bad at least once about the way we look, even if it was only a one off joking thing. We still judge ourselves. And that comes down to the whole perfection thing. Perfect doesn't exist, how can it with evolution? We can't compare ourselves to one another yet we still do. A leopard can't change its spots, so what? It goes and paints itself to be a tiger and in the end just hides its true self. weird example but whatever.

I have kinda contradicted myself here, but we only live once. If you think it's the right thing to do, to change your looks, then nobody can judge it better than yourself. I think it should stop when it becomes over the top and obsessive, but thats getting into other things (when does an obsession begin etc)

b.gluch

30-07-11, 01:24

Would anyone in here consider having anything done?

:whi:

remote91

30-07-11, 01:25

:whi:
What have you had done?! :D

b.gluch

30-07-11, 01:27

What have you had done?! :D

nothing... yet

remote91

30-07-11, 01:27

nothing... yet
What do you want to have done then?

b.gluch

30-07-11, 01:28

my jawline and my nose... hopefull ill get over it

Encore

30-07-11, 01:33

Anyone is entitled to doing whatever they want with their bodies.

If someone changes something to their body for a purely aesthetic purpose, however, I do tend to lose some respect for them. I guess because, having lots of self esteem issues myself, I admire people who are capable of ignoring the "social standards" and accept their look without needing to change it.

My skin is horrible, I have virtually no *****, my lips are hedious - and yet, my goal isn't to change that through surgery, but to learn to accept it and disguise my physical weaknesses through better self confidence, which is what truly makes people more attractive.

_Awestruck_

30-07-11, 01:36

As long as you look good afterwards and it makes you feel good...then I don't see an issue.

remote91

30-07-11, 01:38

My skin is horrible, I have virtually no *****, my lips are hedious - and yet, my goal isn't to change that through surgery, but to learn to accept it and disguise my physical weaknesses through better self confidence, which is what truly makes people more attractive.
I just checked your profile picture and I think you have nice skin, plump lips and I think small ***** are awesome in terms of fashion :ohn:

cbragg09

30-07-11, 01:49

My skin is horrible, I have virtually no *****, my lips are hedious

just looked at your profile picture as well and youre beautiful, there is nothing wrong with your skin and your lips are very shapely and full, something people want to get done with the surgery. infact you look like the bond girl from goldeneye, Natalya. i think her name is Izabella Scorupco. im glad, however, you strive to be comfortable with yourself because that overall is the best feature you can carry in life, and no amount of surgery can give a person that

society has twisted our idea of beauty to almost be impossible, and perfectly great looking people will find issues with their body because it doesnt fit some sort of "image"

Chocola teapot

30-07-11, 02:00

I would love to Botox that line on my forehead.

I've also contemplated a nosejob, but I'm quite fond of my nose now.

Vanni

30-07-11, 02:04

I support it, but I don't think it should be used to correct insecurities. I believe body modification is a form of art and shouldn't be exploited. GaGa kind annoyed me when she was like "Plastic surgery is a no-no", yet she's all "Power to the transgendered". o.O

x

Quasimodo

30-07-11, 02:59

My skin is horrible, I have virtually no *****, my lips are hedious
*looks at profile pic*
*looks at post*
*looks at profile pic*

Something isn't matching up here!

I saw this thread title earlier and looked up cosmetic surgery + eugenics and stumbled upon some post about how lots of folks are trying to change their features to match some supposed ideal (usually this ideal looks like the group with the most economic or social power). I then reflected back on how one group of researchers found that a face with the most average features is often considered attractive (a good dose of symmetry helps, too). Let's not forget all the embrace-your-individuality rhetoric going around, too.

If someone wants to change something about there body, it's their business. However, it is interesting to look at the social and psychological pressures that influence what people consider to be the ideal face and body.

TRexbait

30-07-11, 03:05

I find it a shame that people aren't comfortable with their bodies. But perhaps I shouldn't blame the people who get the surgery, but the culture that makes them feel forced to.

Would so many people want to get surgeries if we were a bit less finicky and shallow about attractions. I don't think so. But really, how is that ever going to change. I mean, haven't people been modifying their bodies for centuries already, trying to get that unattainable definition of beauty (some definitions looking positively horrendous to those who live outside of the culture)? I guess this is really nothing new, as sad as it may seem.

TRhalloween

30-07-11, 03:06

I only want braces to straighten my teeth, but if I have a right to do that then I think people have a right to get a nose job, get a breast lift etc.
Which includes trans people who want gender reassignment surgery.

I think most of these really tragic cases come from people who have addictions and disorders or botched surgeries.

At the same time, I don't find it to be necessary and I don't think it improves how you look, it just changes it.

robm_2007

30-07-11, 03:16

my jawline and my nose... hopefull ill get over it
how old are you? you might not have grown into your face yet. some people can be unattractive as teens/kids, but then somehow turn into the most beautiful person as adults :D
my lips are hedious - and yet, my goal isn't to change that through surgery, but to learn to accept it and disguise my physical weaknesses through better self confidence, which is what truly makes people more attractive.

Oh youre just like every girl who thinks she is ugly. I agree with the nay-sayers in here about your opinion. Even xxhayleyroxxx (sp?) thinks shes ugly...

leglion

30-07-11, 03:17

I wanna fix my eyelids one day. They don't fold the same.

Killercowz

30-07-11, 03:18

http://www.viciousenterprises.com/summersblog/jocylneafter.jpg
.

Burn it with fire.

Now.

Funto

30-07-11, 03:56

society has twisted our idea of beauty to almost be impossible

Pretty much this. We're becoming pretty artificial if you ask me. How about something natural? Something genuine?

Even though I agree that it's their bodies and they can do whatever they want with their own bodies, there's too much emphasis on fixing minor issues through surgery these days, instead of encouraging people to simply accept themselves the way they are and ignore minor flaws. If you want to look good, how about eating healthy then? If you wanna lose some pounds, how about some exercises instead of lipo? I think that's far more beneficial in the long run.

I may be in the minority here, but I see something beautiful in everyone, and in my opinion, the prettiest girls are the everyday "nobodies" I see on the streets just going about their day, and if they have tattoos, even better. Are these "nobodies" perfect? No, but who is? All I know is I won't be nitpicking "oh, that girl's nose is 0,2cm too big, look at that thing, Jesus Christ."

Not considering straightening teeth, the only type of body "modification" I support is when you have surgery because something doesn't look natural, like if you were born with your fingers glued together, for example. Or when it causes some physical pain, like this girl I know, who used to have pretty huge ***** and she would constantly complain about her back pain, so she had them reduced. I don't know how they looked before, but she showed me her new pair, and they are awesome, so yes, I'll encourage that. :D

TL;DR: No thanks. If I wanted plastic, I'd get a blow up doll.

remote91

30-07-11, 04:02

TL;DR: No thanks. If I wanted plastic, I'd get a blow up doll.
Cosmetic* Did you learn nothing from the original post?! :p

Killercowz

30-07-11, 04:04

I want to get my nose done.

I think it's fine.

If you're unconformable with your imperfections then I don't see the harm.

Uzi master

30-07-11, 04:22

Burn it with fire.

Now.

you mean Kill it with fire? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KillItWithFire)

for those with the forsight to read the white text, I wouldn't recommend following the link, I hear that site turns all who enters into brainless zombies... Or not, whatever.

Killercowz

30-07-11, 04:23

you mean Kill it with fire? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KillItWithFire)

for those with the forsight to read the white text, I wouldn't recommend following the link, I hear that site turns all who enters into brainless zombies... Or not, whatever.

I meant burn it.

Kill it with fire is like sooo overdone..

:p jk i meant kill it.

Uzi master

30-07-11, 04:36

I meant burn it.

Kill it with fire is like sooo overdone..

:p jk i meant kill it.

Then again if we burn it, it may become more attractive, hmmm...

Weemanply109

30-07-11, 05:41

Amiyo

30-07-11, 07:10

Edit: http://www.carefair.com/Skincare/Treatments/Plastic_and_Cosmetic_Surgery_2490.html heres the difference between plastic and cosmetic surgery ;) Thanks for that link, I had thought they're the same thing. Now I feel a lot wiser. :)
I think if a woman looses her breast to breast cancer, then a boob job is okay. Or if a woman is ridiculed for having small breasts all her life and gets them done to be just a little bigger for confidence is okay,

--Edited for brevity.--

of course an exception for things like a nose job, face lift, or something is 100% normal for someone who has suffered a horrible accident or medical problem ^ See the whole post. I agree with it and also with the following:
Not to sound so matter of factly, but I really don't care what anyone else does with their own bodies... that includes piercings, tattoos, etc... as well. The way I look at it, their body, their choice.

robm_2007

30-07-11, 07:16

If surgery makes someone feel better about themselves then I see no problem with it, but it is unattractive when you have Katie Price look-a-likes running about Glasgow with their fake tan and over done makeup that makes them look like they have clown masks on...

I have LOADS of confidences issues with my looks. I really wish I could just get a full head surgery tbh :p

Post pics! Let us judge you!
---
I would def. get a hair transplant. Being 22 and losing your hair as if you were 40 is not cool >.>

sandygrimm

30-07-11, 07:25

If surgery makes someone feel better about themselves then I see no problem with it, but it is unattractive when you have Katie Price look-a-likes running about Glasgow with their fake tan and over done makeup that makes them look like they have clown masks on...

this! whatever makes other happy I don't bother!

Personally, if it's necessary like bigger lips or *****.. just silly to attract males by fake implants drives away from the natural beauty and what genes really ment to show. Find yourself having a kid not even resembling the mother after so many surgeries.
Now if it's to fix the body after an accident or defects at birth by all means!

In short IMO: Don't fix it if it ain't broken

cbragg09

30-07-11, 08:14

Post pics! Let us judge you!
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I would def. get a hair transplant. Being 22 and losing your hair as if you were 40 is not cool >.>

this is another thing i feel is okay. sometimes i think im loosing mine as well, and its a real confidence killer to be 20 and have those feelings. it makes you wanna stay away from public places and have your head covered at all times. plus you think people are always staring.

and on topic;

the idea that the only way people can be beautiful through plastic surgery is outrageous and sadly the trend is slowly growing. i should mention that everyone is entitled to their own body, but i dream of the day when everyone can be accepted with what they are born with and not feel like expensive, look altering surgeries is the only way to be physically "accepted"

xXhayleyroxXx

30-07-11, 10:45

*looks at profile pic*
*looks at post*
*looks at profile pic*

This D: She's stunning.

!Lara Croft!

30-07-11, 10:50

If it is to repair someones face after an accident, or a birth defect then its fine.

However so many people having it when they dont need it just makes those that dont have it look bad, which shouldnt be. Like how in the 50's and 60's no ones teeth were pearl white, but these days people get them whitened and so it makes those that dont look bad.

Dennis's Mom

30-07-11, 12:29

Well, world cultures for millennia has been asking people to change their looks to a standard. I don't really see anything new here. I think a lot more money is being made off it though.

I agree with the "it's your body" philosophy, but I do think it's wrong to have work done, then lie about it if asked. That, I think, does set up a "impossible" standard that hurts other people's self-esteem. Someone is essentially cheating, and that's just not fair.

Super Badnik

30-07-11, 12:41

What you do with your body is up to you as far as I'm concerned. I personally wouldn't have cosmetic surgery though, I don't like the idea of having a 'fake' body and being stuffed full of crap.

Biddy

30-07-11, 13:10

It's just upsetting how the standards of beauty are demanding enough to get people to physically alter themselves. What's worse is the smarting irony of cases where people look terrible after the surgery, and when you look at the 'before' pictures you see that there was nothing wrong with them at all.

robm_2007

31-07-11, 00:01

I agree with the "it's your body" philosophy, but I do think it's wrong to have work done, then lie about it if asked. That, I think, does set up a "impossible" standard that hurts other people's self-esteem. Someone is essentially cheating, and that's just not fair.

Oh how I hate that! Especially with celebrities. Theyre like 70, yet they look only 55 adn try to say that its cuz of "Good genes" or "Diet adn exercise."

Encore

31-07-11, 00:16

I mean, haven't people been modifying their bodies for centuries already, trying to get that unattainable definition of beauty (some definitions looking positively horrendous to those who live outside of the culture)? I guess this is really nothing new, as sad as it may seem.

That's a very interesting point you've raised here. :tmb:

Cosmetic alterations of the body is not a thing of modern western culture. Human beings always had standards of beauty, some of them pretty stupid and impossible.

It used to be common in China that young girls tied bands around their feet, really really tight, so that the bones were crushed and the feet couldn't grow, because it was considered the proper thing for a chinese woman to have small feet. It was a really painful process too. Wikipedia article here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding).

And there's those cultures that used (some still do) metal rings to stretch their necks. Like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neck_ring).

I have to say it's just baffling how human beings - unlike most other animals - can be so incredibly diverse in shape, form, size, yet they are so desperate to conform to this or that "ideal". We, more than any other species, should have learned to tolerate all physical forms a long time ago.

A.JJ.G

31-07-11, 00:18

I'm against plastic surgery being given to minors (and when I say plastic surgery, I mean frivolous, uneeded things like implants and botox). However, surgery being given to someone who has a deformity as the result of an accident, or from birth is OK (to me), and beyond that, adults have full say over themselves. What they do with their bodies is their business. I do, however, think it's sad when a woman in her twenties (*cough*everycastmemberofTheHills*cough*) goes to the lengths of breast implants or botox when it is all so unnecessary. It's just a waste of money and resources that way.

patriots88888

31-07-11, 00:55

That's a very interesting point you've raised here. :tmb:

Cosmetic alterations of the body is not a thing of modern western culture. Human beings always had standards of beauty, some of them pretty stupid and impossible.

It used to be common in China that young girls tied bands around their feet, really really tight, so that the bones were crushed and the feet couldn't grow, because it was considered the proper thing for a chinese woman to have small feet. It was a really painful process too. Wikipedia article here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding).

And there's those cultures that used (some still do) metal rings to stretch their necks. Like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neck_ring).

I have to say it's just baffling how human beings - unlike most other animals - can be so incredibly diverse in shape, form, size, yet they are so desperate to conform to this or that "ideal". We, more than any other species, should have learned to tolerate all physical forms a long time ago.

Is it tolerance or simply a matter of preference? In most cases concerning the topic I believe it is only the latter. What you have touched upon appears to be something much deeper and more sinister... ala A.H. and his idealisms of the 'perfect' aryan race. Despite how silly our existing ideology of 'perfection' still remains to be, I like to believe we have at least made some progress in this respect.

Ora Dagger

31-07-11, 01:09

If someone gets in an accident and it ruins a part of their body then it would be ok, or if someone does surgery once or twice is ok. But as long as they don't keep doing it...mhmm

Lara Croft!

31-07-11, 14:04

When it comes to plastic surgery I'm for it 100%. If a person is deformed and they want to do something about it, why not?

As for the cosmetic surgery, I'm against it. People who get into it, overdo it almost every time and the results are horrific. And as the years go by, you'll feel you need to visit your surgeon more and more often as part of the hunt of eternal youth. Women can use makeup to hide or highlight their features. As for men, I like the fact that most of them don't give a damn. After all a man growing old can be sexy.

!Lara Croft!

05-08-11, 05:33

Oh how I hate that! Especially with celebrities. Theyre like 70, yet they look only 55 adn try to say that its cuz of "Good genes" or "Diet adn exercise."

Though admittedly people who do eat well (and i dont mean these 'fads', i mean fruit/vegetables/meat with plenty of water) and regularly exercise do look younger than others their age...mainly because our poor lifestyles actually age us rapidly.

Lara Coft Baby

05-08-11, 05:37

Me personally I dont like the idea of it. I am always the person that thinks you were born the way you are with this body. Because thats how God wanted it. And that is how you should stay. Now in some cases i think its okay. As in if you are disfigured in some kind of an accident then it would be okay. But if its just because I say be happy with the way you are.