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andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:01
I need a new mode of transport after my car fiasco.

I've decided a motorbike is the best idea in the world. Firstly, I can get a good one for $5000. I couldnt get a matchbox car for that price. Secondly I would use like $20 worth of petrol in 3 weeks instead of a massive $60 per week. Thirdly, motorbikes cant get broken into like my stupid piece of **** car did every second day.

And fourthly they are hot.

Ima go looking for some online.

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:03
http://www.bestools.com/Toys/TY1029.jpg

Uhhh... too plastic.

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:05
http://www.scooter.com.hk/new/pink.jpg

Cute, but its a vespa, and this isnt Italy. I'll get laughed off the road.

Draco
18-02-05, 04:06
Honda Nighthawk (http://powersports.honda.com/motorcycles/cruiser_standard/model.asp?ModelName=Nighthawk&ModelYear=2005&ModelId=CB2505&bhcp=1)...sexah.

[ 18. February 2005, 05:09: Message edited by: Draco ]

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:09
Hey Eric.

I dont like your Nighthawk. It looks like a Harley. I dont have brass rings to go with it, or a thousand tattoos. I like the sportier look.

[ 18. February 2005, 05:13: Message edited by: andromeda_eats ]

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:12
My boss just bought a Ducati, apparently its the fastest in the world.

http://www.ducatistore.co.uk/images/ducati_superbikes/ducati_999.jpg

Tramp
18-02-05, 04:13
Personally Andro I wouldn't have one. I think they are too dangerous. I have lost some friends on motorbikes. It's not the rider that is often the problem but the other vehicles around them. It is sometimes very difficult to see them in the cars blind spot. They are very cold in winter. You have to wear a helmet and that is bad for the hair. You can't listen to the radio and you get bloody wet in the rain. Plus there is nowhere to store your shoes. See if you can get a personal loan to buy a car instead. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:17
Hey Tramp. I see your point, I know that they are dangerous and whilst I have not lost a loved one to an accident, I know many people who own bikes and warn of their danger. I dont plan to ride in the rain. And yes, 90% of accidents are caused by the car driver rather then the bike rider, but I plan to be careful.

Helmet hair is fixable, and dont worry, I'll figure something out about the shoes. I'll have insulated riding gear, but it doesnt get that freezing down here even in winter.

I would rather burn my money then buy another car. Never again will I inject a dollar into a car. They are such a waste of money. I'd rather catch the bus. Or buy a motorcycle!

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:19
Bikey (http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcnuts/mcphotos/tokyo8.html)

Futuristic and hot. And probably about $50,000.

[ 18. February 2005, 05:21: Message edited by: andromeda_eats ]

Draco
18-02-05, 04:21
That Nighthawk looks nothing like a Harley.

Frankly the Ducati doesnt impress me, have any idea how your back will feel after riding that style of bike? Not good...which is the main reason you only see young people ride them at all. If Ima do something dangerous, it could at least not make me a chiropractor patient too http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:24
Can you imagine little me on a that Nighthawk riding around like I own a bikie gang? It is a Harley style bike where you gotta sit up with your arms above your head.

Shut up Grandpa. The Ducati is hot and your just too old to handle it. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

wantafanta
18-02-05, 04:29
Originally posted by Tramp:
Personally Andro I wouldn't have one. I think they are too dangerous. I have lost some friends on motorbikes. It's not the rider that is often the problem but the other vehicles around them. It is sometimes very difficult to see them in the cars blind spot. They are very cold in winter. You have to wear a helmet and that is bad for the hair. You can't listen to the radio and you get bloody wet in the rain. Plus there is nowhere to store your shoes. See if you can get a personal loan to buy a car instead. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif Agree
I had 2 motorcycles - both Hondas. The first one, somebody knocked me off at a stop sign. A girl was behind me in a car with her boyfriend and they were kissing and she just stepped on the gas pedal without even knowing I was there. Luckily, I wasn't hurt.

Another time, I was rounding a corner and rode over some slippery wet leaves. The bike skidded out from under me. Again, I wasn't hurt, but my pulse rate shot up in a hurry! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif

Plus, motorbikes are always getting flat tires. And then I would have to call my mom to come get me and I'd have to lift the motorcycle onto a carrier behind the car. They break down all the time.

I went without any car or motorbike for 5 years, and it was so relaxing and carefree. No insurance, no gasoline, no repairs, no licensing fees, no parking tickets. I saved 1000s of $$ http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Not to mention I could go to a nightclub and drink whatever I wanted and take the train home. No worries.

Bikes are loads of fun in the summer, and a great way to meet female hitchhikers ;)
But they are dangerous. Drivers are crazy.

[ 18. February 2005, 05:34: Message edited by: wantafanta ]

Draco
18-02-05, 04:35
Originally posted by andromeda_eats:
Can you imagine little me on a that Nighthawk riding around like I own a bikie gang? It is a Harley style bike where you gotta sit up with your arms above your head.

Shut up Grandpa. The Ducati is hot and your just too old to handle it. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif What in the hell are you talking about? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Maybe it's just me, but my Thunderbird is plenty fun http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:35
Hey wantafanta, sorry to hear about your accidents. Glad you are okay.

I know their are huge risks involved with getting a motorcycle, but if I ride safely then I lower the chances of getting hurt. I take a similar risk everytime I get into the car every day.... someone could run me off the road into a tree.

As corny as this sounds, life is about chances. I see the same risks involved in driving a car.

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 04:38
Originally posted by Draco:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by andromeda_eats:
Can you imagine little me on a that Nighthawk riding around like I own a bikie gang? It is a Harley style bike where you gotta sit up with your arms above your head.

Shut up Grandpa. The Ducati is hot and your just too old to handle it. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif What in the hell are you talking about? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Maybe it's just me, but my Thunderbird is plenty fun http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I like your bike, its just not for me. We can race when I get my bike. :D

Draco
18-02-05, 05:07
Hehe, I dont have one...probably never will =/

I like cars way too much.

RavenLettan
18-02-05, 05:37
Originally posted by andromeda_eats:
My boss just bought a Ducati, apparently its the fastest in the world.

http://www.ducatistore.co.uk/images/ducati_superbikes/ducati_999.jpg Your bosses Ducati (no matter the model) can kiss the dust of my Fireblade 1100R http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Seriously, the best his Ducati will be able to do is around 190mph, my nice 1100 is capable of 215mph mwhahaa

..erm, not that it would be responsible ever trying to achieve that on the roads.. err, and breaking the speed limit is wrong kids! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif

Personally I'd suggest againt a Motorbike for everyday use, particularly in the states. It is VERY, and I should probably stress that point VERY dangerous to be a motorcyclist nowadays unless you've had years of experience.
Particularly around larger towns / cities.. in the states so many people have those tanks on wheels (old Ford / Chevvy pick-ups) as well as SUVs... hell some even had Hummer H2s in my area. You get hit by most american cars that are several tonnes of reinforced steel, the likelihood of surviving are low!

Heh, well not to scare you off that is. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

FYI, top-end Ducati's are around $20,000. They're nice but the single swing-arm takes getting used to.. it does NOT hurt you back to ride one of these find SuperSports, but I'm sure Draco is just more of a Harley trying to constantly stretch for his handlebars, could fall asleep at the 'wheel' and still cycle in a straight line, have to have 3 guys to pick it up it's so damn heavy... style of bike.
Bleck, nothing worse than a damn 'Hog'. So noisy, boarish, and just overall ick.

Still it is much easier to ride one of them to begin with than riding a SuperSport.
Your best bet is probably a 'Cruiser' or 'Tourer' bike, Honda make a nice selection of them. They're bikes designed specifically for comfort and safety.. So yeah they are the lowest powered of all the bikes (cept Scooters) but are very good for travelling alot.

Scooters are also an option though. I mean if you don't have far to go they're like an underpowered non-license or insurance requiring, cheap alternative (usually for Teens) to the Tourer bikes. Especially as one will set you back a matter of $2-3,000 if that. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Peugeot make the best of these imo, recently got my brother one rather than putting him on my car's insurance again (believe me it works out ALOT cheaper). They're nice to zip around on, especially as they do 'run on a thimble of petrol'. ;) I remember having one when I was 16, heh was pretty cool, could put 5 worth of Petrol in it and that'd last me nearly an entire month back'n'forth from College.

Tramp
18-02-05, 06:34
Andro I'm not sure what your licencing laws are in Canberra but in NSW you are limited on the size of bike you can have when you are a learner or P Plater and up to a certain amount of years experience. You might save of rego and petrol but insurance on bikes is a lot higher because of the risk. You never said what sort of car you had, if it was a Holden or a Ford they are the 2 easiest cars to break into and steal and are considered very high risk especially the older models. I used to work for NRMA Smash Repairs and that is where all the stolen and recovered vehicles used to come. In the 9 months I was there we only had one Subaru come in. (Going back to 1982 when things like central locking had only just come in in average priced cars.) The Holden Astra just needed a paddlepop stick in the rear left door to pop all the doors open. When working in a car yard one of our guys could get into a Commodore in 15 seconds and he was out of practice. Compulsory third party insurance for bikes is also dearer so what you gain on the round-a-bout you lose on the swing. About the most common car stolen then was the Ford Meteor and the Holden Commodore. Get a small 4 cylinder car your roads down there are really great and as I think you petrol is cheaper than ours (ours is still around $1 per litre) you should have better economy.

I wish you had been looking for a car in August as my very nice Subaru Liberty Wagon only got $2000 as a trade in and you could have had that. It had air, central locking, power windows and power mirrors, tow bar, cruise control, cassette radio, adjustable steering column, ABS brakes, cloth seats and was a 94 model. Silver with grey trim.

[ 18. February 2005, 07:38: Message edited by: Tramp ]

Neteru
18-02-05, 10:14
AE, just how are you meant to handle a bike in your heels? You'd ruin all your best spikes in no time (covered in oil, scratched), then you'd be sorry!

andromeda_eats
18-02-05, 12:48
Yeah, Net I know. Not being able to wear high heels is a big drama, but Ill learn to deal with it. :D

Tramp: yeah we are restricted on L-plates as well. Dont worry, Im not going to get a Ducati to start with. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Ill start off on an L-legal bike. My car was a Toyota, btw. And Im never going to buy another car again. The one Im driving around at the moment was a loan.

Raven_: I live in Australia, not the States. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif A Vespa/Scooter is not an option because my city is spread over a very long distance. Not quite bush, but a Vespa wouldnt last 5 seconds on the kind of tough roads we have. Again, I wouldnt start with a Ducati. My boss paid $40,000 for his 999. I aint got that kind of money! Most of my friends have been recommending Hondas for a first bike so I might have a look into some nice second hand ones.

RavenLettan
18-02-05, 15:32
Vespa's aren't really scooters, they're more of a Moped... ridiculous looking things if you ask me.

I've kinda always been aborant to the whole 'italians have taste' ****, cause they don't really have my taste.. I prefer my Western European stuff. (certain as hell isn't stuck 40years in the past ;) )

I figure cause you were talking in dollars you were in the states. Don't like Aussie Dollars, they're like Canadian Dollars; very deceptive. Cause while I'm looking at 1.8 translation to USD, to AUD or CAD your lookin at closer to 2.3-2.4 .. best example is the Ducati 940 (which i'd guess is the 1000cc one he has) is only 12,500 here, as such would be around $20,000 USD. ;)

For the outback a sport-bike is just... well stupidity psonified. heh, no way I'd wanna have my bike in the constant heat like you get down there. I'd suggest something like a Honda or a BMW Tourer would be best...

125cc (considering your basically under old british laws generally speaking). will be legal until you pass your test... then I'd suggest something like a 400cc http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Tramp
18-02-05, 20:52
Andro Toyota's are easy to break into even I can do it. Piece of wire with a hook on the end down between the window and the rubber, turn the hook toward the opposite door and lift. Also have you ever ridden a bike and I don't mean as a passenger. Most of them are heavy and awkward and you need good balance. Cornering especially in the we or on frosty icy roads is not good. My stepfather used to race bikes and he would not get on one in all the years I have known him around 35 years. He taught Kel Carruthers how to ride (Kel was 250cc World Champion in 1969, in 1972 he became Manager of the US Yamaha Team leading Kenny Roberts to 3 consecutive world championships. He is also in the Motorcycle Hall of Fame) He and Kel's father Jack were sidecar racers and developed the wheel covers for the sidecars to prevent swingers injuries. Even he has said that bikes are too dangerous on the road. On a track they are all going in the same direction and the worst you do is drop the bike, there are no solid vehicles to run into.