View Full Version : Some Games : Overlooked by many, loved by some.

15-05-05, 19:43
Hi Readers

Welcome to the first of hopefully many posts concerning computer games that i feel do not get enough of the awareness and respect that they deserve. I will attempt to present these games to you in the hopes of drawing your attention to some games that you may have overlooked, misjudged or simply never heard of.

Tomb Raider is my inspiration for this. Lara has been through a rough patch and for many gamers the series has already failed (the fools! :rolleyes: ), but many more - especially the younger generations simply do not know who Lara is and certainly do not give her the respect she deserves. Obviously there is no point trying to raise awareness of TR in a TR forum but Lara is not the only game to be underestimated by the masses.

I will be working on one game at a time starting with the most recent ones and working backwards to the older titles.

First up (suprise, suprise) is a little game called Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines. The more observant of you will remember me blithering on about this game in numerous other posts so its time you got a better idea about what the smeg i was on about. :D

VTMB is based on a storytelling game by White Wolf studios. It is set in the 'world of darkness' this is essentially a fantasy alter-universe where the supernatural exist while trying to remain hidden from the human eye.
It is an RPG with a pretty damn good combat system. Admittedly I haven't played many RPGs but from what i've seen the combat system on VTMB is a good one in comparison. It uses valve source technology which is something to do with halflife2 apparently - i would compare it to the recent jediknight games but without such complex sword play (you can play both 1st+3rd person with guns but only 3rd person in melee combat). Roll on the screen shots...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/crux2/Lilu1.bmp A young Toreador wakes up for the first time in her unlife.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/crux2/Lilu-LA.bmp Traveling the streets of LA, the shadows are particularly impressive if you notice them.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/crux2/Damsel.bmp Damsel, an appropriate name. She's all talk no action.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/crux2/Combat.bmp Combat screenies. i don't care how cliche it is the .44 magnum just looks cool, and you can't go wrong witha good Katana.

The game itself is very well put together, a patch is available to fix the games one noticable bug and the history and background of the game is available in huge quantities on the net. Like many RPGs it has huge ammounts of options and alternate paths to take, charachter customisation is good but it could be better. The game has loads of wonderful in-game jokes about its producers, story and the computer game
community as a whole. (playing as the insane Malkavian bloodline the TV stats to talk to you, as do street signs and a whole load of other wierd stuff).

Well I certainly feel better now thats off my proverbial chest. Next time on 'Overlooked by many, loved by some' we will hopefully be taking a look at Silent Storm, the unique and ingenious tactical game made by JoWood productions. Feel free to add your own underrated games or get in touch with me and i will endeavor to put them up here after I research them. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

15-05-05, 21:16
Lords of the Realm 2 http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
I've always felt the entire series has been under-rated / never heard of.

So heh that can be your next project.

15-05-05, 21:46
Good initiative crux2! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif
I have the game. I am not good in Role playing strategy. Important reason: english is not my mothertongue, that's why i gave up in Morrowind. Too much text, the subtleties just blow through me and i get lost. There is no translated version, so there is an unfair discrepancy between you english language-raised and the much larger part of the world (unused market-potential!).
But Bloodlines has still my interest because it is beautifully made! I played a part of it, roamed around for a while. And then there are so many options to go on. Tell us more about strategy?

15-05-05, 22:14
Has anyone ever played Broken Sword 1 or 2?

16-05-05, 12:08
i've got stuck on the goat since release in BS1, but completed 2 and 3 http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
waiting for 4 now :D

Revolution are supposidly working on a new Beneath the Steel Sky though. Sounds interesting.

16-05-05, 12:24
Lol i got stuck at the goat for ages aswell. BS2 rocks, havnt played BS3 yet.

16-05-05, 16:37

On bloodlines?

Weeeeell. The most basic advice is to (in the words of Nines Rodreguez) learn to fight. The silver tongue, favoured by me (classic Toreador I am) will only get you far in conversations. Sometimes you have to rely on your combat skills, i use the .44 for ranged enemies and the Katana/Tal-me-Rah blade when things get up close and personal. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif

One good hint - kiss LaCroix ass to begin with, once he buys you the fancy apartment then you can start questioning him or demanding payment.


Nines Rodreguez, If you like this games concept then Nines will erase any memories of that other guy, Curdis was it?

Some of the screenshots i took could be classed as "inapropriate" in terms of violence, but if people are intereested in "feeding methods".......

16-05-05, 16:55
As for Broken Sword 3 (sleeping dragon) I'll give you smegging Broken Sword! Yeah ok, its a good game. The problem solving elements are nothing particularly new but they are carried out well on BS3. DON'T buy this game if you don't like problem solving games, the transition from cartoon to 3D is impressive but make no mistake Nico+George solve problems without guns. Graphics are good and the story is intesting enough to keep you playing even if the pace slows down. Hey you even get to do some Tomb Raiding! Speaking of which, WHO SAW THE SPECIAL FEATURES?! EH? ANYONE NOTICE THE SHAMELESS LARA + INDY RIP OFF IN THE CONCEPT ART SECTION?

Well they say copying is the most sincere form of flattery...

16-05-05, 23:57
huh? Special Features of what?
Revolution have used the same art team since 1992, I doubt very much that they're copying any of the Tomb Raider style.. Indi perhaps, still the LucasArt Indiana Jones games were some of the biggest influences for all of the SCUMM based games. As they raised the bar so to speak.

I still enjoy playing through the Last Crusade and Fate of Atlantis.

17-05-05, 15:48
There was a special features section in Broken sword 3. I think it branched off from the main menu once you have finished the game. On the special features list there is a gallery of concept art, 3 pictures are of Nico in various concept outfits for the ancient ruins section. One looks like her clothing in the game, another looks like an indiana jones outfit and the third bears a really striking resemblance to Lara's look in AOD.

I have tried to take a screenshot/screenprint but it won't let me, and I can't find the picture on the internet. So i guess you will have to buy+finish BS3 if you want to see what i'm on about.