View Full Version : PLEASE READ IF YOU HAVE A PET
MelikeLara
19-09-05, 22:03
not to long ago i displayed one of my cats on here, this one: http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5287/dscf01704vk.th.jpg
he died last night due to eating slug pellets which contained a chemical called METALDEHYDE , and i have another cat who is fighting for his life in intensive care at the vets, it only takes 3/4 pellets to be lethal , and they ate much more than that.
please make sure if you buy slug pellets, or you know someone who uses them that they don't get in contact with animals including dogs,cats,rabbits,mice,and birds, it is also very lethal to babies and small childeren.
i'm praying my other cat will make it through the night, but it looks very bleak.
so please just take care, and make sure no animals or small childeren get near these pellets,
because i have cats it wasn't in my garden that they found them, it was my neighbour's garden, so if you see them putting them down, make sure they aren't lethal to animals. :(
[ 19. September 2005, 23:07: Message edited by: melikelara ]
only Croft
19-09-05, 22:07
Im sorry for your cats :(
but tanks for the warning
[ 19. September 2005, 23:09: Message edited by: only Croft ]
xMiSsCrOfTx
19-09-05, 22:10
melikelara, I'm very sorry to hear about your cats. :( You have my sympathy as a fellow cat owner. Thank you for the warning, I was never aware of this. I do hope your other cat pulls through.
melikara, I'm so sorry about your loss. He was such a lovely cat. I hope your second cat makes it. :(
So many people loose their pets due to careless neighboors that spread poison in their garden.
MelikeLara
19-09-05, 22:14
thank you very much only croft and xMiSsCrOfTx
Edit:thanks Gomes
[ 19. September 2005, 23:16: Message edited by: melikelara ]
Thats horrible. I am sorry about your cat and hope the other pulls through. :( Thanks for the warning.
Melikelara sorry to hear about your cats. Are you on friendly terms with your neighbours. If you are have a little chat and tell them there are some environmentally safe slug and snail traps that can be used.
Get a plastic container (we use the plastic tubs that butter or margarine come in and don't wash them so that they are a bit slippery still) Put them into the soil so that the top is at ground level and pour in some beer. That's right beer any brand will do. Snails and slugs love it but it kills them. The worst that can happen to your pets is they may get drunk. I know this sounds like a joke but it isn't.
I have 4 dogs and 2 cats and I usually have a vegetable patch. I use this method and it is very successful. I use a similar thing inside the house for ****roaches (****roach baits are similarly poisonous to dogs cats and birds.) With ****roaches you can use white wine.
MelikeLara
19-09-05, 22:26
thank you Angel666
and thank you tramp, i have only lived here for 5/6 months so we don't really talk with them that much, the slug repellent they used actually said that it contained an animal repellent, but in very small writing it said that animals or children should not eat it,and it should be kept in a safe place, the animal reppellent hardly worked did it?!, i'm not so sad anymore, i'm actually cross that such thing is allowed to be brought from your local supermarket
[ 19. September 2005, 23:35: Message edited by: melikelara ]
MelikeLara
19-09-05, 22:28
this is what i found out while looking on the internet;
'Metaldehyde or its breakdown products may cause problems in the central nervous system through an unknown mechanism. The autopsy of a 2 1/2 -year-old boy, who lived 33 hours after ingesting one tablet of metaldehyde, had areas of collapse and congestion in the lungs, as well as cellular changes in the liver and the kidney.'
Neighbours with poison in their garden: report them to the police! :mad:
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif I'm surprised they don't pull this stuff from the shelves!
So sorry to hear about your little guys. Did cat number two make it? I certainly hope he did. I love cats... they are so funny and sociable (that's right, I talk to them, and they talk to me).
Jon
There are a number of things in the supermarket that are poisonous to animals. Things that you would not even dream of. Paracetamol is poisonous to cats. Avocado is poisonous to birds. (Causes heart failure, no treatment). Chocolate (YES CHOCOLATE) is toxic to dogs cats and birds. Vets usually see a lot of this around Easter. That's why dogs have special dog chocs that are not made with chocolate but Karob.
That animal repellent does not work they use it in rat and mouse poison too. So many people just don't realize how poisonous these things are to animals. They just don't think. They only want to protect their plants.
Maybe this is a good opportunity for you to develop a rapport with your neighbours, after all you do have to live next door to each other. They have the right to live in their place as you have a right in yours. If you talk it makes it easier to live in peace.
I'm so sorry you lost your cat, especially in such a cruel and needless way. I hope your other cat pulls through. I just don't understand why people would put things like this around when they know there are pets in the neighbourhood. How can plants possibly be more important than pets and people?
So sorry about your cat(s)!! :(
It's horrible to lose a pet!
Taz I didn't say plants were more important than pets and people, I'm just pointing out that your neighbours have rights in their own yard. So do you. If you're neighbours didn't like animals and forced you to get rid of them you wouldn't like it. Not everyone likes animals (I have no idea why) and their gardens are very important to them. I grow vegetables for my birds and some for myself and I don't like my dogs or cats digging up my plants or snails and slugs eating them. Most people are unaware of safe ways to kill these things. I don't know how much plants are over there but they are damned expensive over here and these people may have invested alot of money in them.
I'm just trying to be fair and see both sides of this. I disagree with snail pellets too that is why I use the beer. At least they die with a smile on their faces. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif
No Tramp, the snails die, they don't smile even with that method. But ok, i hate snails eating up my fresh sunflower plants in their first stadium. Remedy: coconut shells. I even throw bricks upon them, it is a war. But even that is a aimed kill at the enemy.
There is too many bad poison for sale in regular shops for regular gardens. So any pet sniffing/eating from the ground like cats and dogs are threatened for their life also. Any neighbour should be aware of this! :mad:
I agree with you Joseph. As I said so many people just don't realize the problem. They see on the box that there is an animal repellent incorporated in the pellet and think it is safe to use them. We had a neighbour many years ago who thought this and nearly killed their beautiful Old English Sheepdog puppy. They didn't think she would eat the pellets because of the so called repellent.
I am so anti poisons and you very well know how much of an animal lover I am (with over 200 birds, 4 dogs and 2 cats).
People just don't realize there are many things out there that are safe for animals but kill the snails and slugs.
I use bio-dynamics in my garden and if I do need to use a spray I use natural sprays like garlic spray for aphids. I have introduced lady birds into my garden as they eat bad bugs. I use companion planting. I introduced dung beetles into my yard to clean up the dog and cat poo. I don't use fly spray (I have a severe allergy to it). I have blackbirds in my garden, they eat insects.
People usually believe the rubbish written on the boxes and it is not until they have a problem they find out that they are lies. People believed that DDT was safe too now they know that it remains in the soil for over 20 years after it was last used. As I said there are a lot of things in the supermarket that we use and eat everyday that are actually toxic to our animals, are you going to ban them too.
There are a lot of people on the forum that would be rather upset if Chocolate was banned as that may kill a dog or a cat or a bird. People just need to be educated to the fact that in most cases you don't need to use a toxic poison to get rid of something.
Melikelara's neighbours may be feeling absolutely terrible over what has happened. What I have tried to point out is people have rights in their own properties. My cat's are not game to go into my neighbours yards as they both have large nasty dogs that hate cats. But that also means that my neighbours don't use snail pellets either as their own pets will get them.
As I said people believe what is written on the boxes and think that the animals won't go near them because of the repellent. They only find out the truth when it is too late.
So sorry to ear that Melikelara, something similar happends to my pet yes ago... he past away, that was a terrible lost.
I'm with you http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Black_Mamba
20-09-05, 07:42
I'm so sorry to hear about your loss Melikelara, I would be devestated if something like that happened to my cats...
Thank you for the warning and lots of strength for you, your family and your other cat http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif
[ 20. September 2005, 14:00: Message edited by: Black_Mamba ]
Sorry to hear about your cat melikelara :( . It's devestating to lose a loved pet. My sympathies and hope your other cat gets better soon! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif
MelikeLara
20-09-05, 16:31
he is still alive today, he is breathing properly now, and all his vitals are ok, just need to wait to see what he'll be like when he wakes up,(he has been anesnatised since yesterday) if he is still ill we might have to decide whether or not to put him down, or give the anastetic another go
I'm very sorry about your cat, melikelara http://fool.exler.ru/sm/158.gif :(
im so sorry for your loss. glad to hear your other cat is doing well. i hope he pulls through.
oh i am so sorry melikelara :( i hope your other cat gets better.. real soon!
my cat also says get well to yours:(
rachkitten
20-09-05, 18:20
aww i am so sorry, my heart goes out to u and your cat :(
I have to agree with alot of you that this stuff should be taking off the shells for;
1. i dont beleive in killing any animals no mater how slimy...
and 2. it is so very easy for small furry pets to simply swallow those lethal pellets :mad:
like i say, im so sorry for your loss
imaginarylight
20-09-05, 19:09
Melike lara im am so sorry. I would die if that happened to my cat. I hope you cat makes it. You should ask your neighbors to take that out because is could happen again to someone else.
Good luck.
Oh I'm so sorry to hear about your cat. My dog was put down a couple of years ago and I was so sad, so I know how you feel.
I really hope your other cat makes it. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
MelikeLara
20-09-05, 20:01
charlie, the second cat has gone into a coma.
so me and my family are going to put him down in the morning.
he will be buried next to his friend felix who has a red climbing rose and charlie will have a white one, it's a sad time, but what is getting me through is the anger towards the makers of that horrible **** Metaldehyde, and trying to prevent any other cat's or other pets going through this trauma and agonising death,
thanks to everone who has said their thanks, i am very grateful
melikelara :( http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif
Im so sorry too as a fellow cat owner. Unfortunately we live on this lack of information when it comes to our pets. I lost a cat after his liver just stopped. His food was salt-satured, it got his kidneys and then its liver. Please, keep us informed about the other cat.
Croft Raider
21-09-05, 04:20
I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your kitty. I lost 1 of my kitties to congestive heart failure last week, and I know what you're going through.
What a terrible heart break.
[ 21. September 2005, 05:45: Message edited by: Croft Raider ]
Awww, I love cats, I'd be so crushed if my own kitty died :(
I'm so sorry to hear about your loss :( http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif
I hope your other cat will be alright!
[ 21. September 2005, 05:28: Message edited by: Mary CF ]
oh god :( thank you SO much for the warning!!! im so sorry, I have lost 3 pets in my life, i know how horrible it is... :(
MelikeLara
22-09-05, 19:20
we did have to have charlie put down in the end, he's with felix now in cat heaven, eating lots of fish, sleeping lots, and playing lots, thanks again everyone, i'm really grateful that many people care, just not enough to not put slug pellets down
MelikeLara
22-09-05, 19:23
meaning my neighbours, and other people's neighbour's
Tomb Raider Master
22-09-05, 20:35
I'm so sorry melikelara. :( That's very sad to hear.
I'm very sorry to hear about your cats, melikelara. :(
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charlotte101
23-09-05, 13:56
melikelara I am sorry to hear about your cat. My cat , Baby, died this way too. It was one summer and we were having a water fight in the garden and he walked straight through all the water into the house and collapsed. He didn't stand up again. He looked like he was suffering terribly and in the end the vet thought it would be best to put him down. It was posibly the worst thing I have ever witnessed in my life and just talking about it now, about 9 years on makes me cry. We lived in a block of flats with shared gardens and someone had put down rat poison, which is even worse than slug pellets although has pretty much the same effect. So yes, please people be careful what you put on your gardens if there are cats about.
I'm really sorry for your cat :(
I can't understand why people do this :mad:
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