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laracroft8290
18-10-05, 03:03
Is anyone else addicted to Madonna's single "Hung Up"?? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif

DREWY
18-10-05, 03:25
I have only heard part of it. It is sampled from something else isn't it? Sounds OK though!

laracroft8290
18-10-05, 03:57
It sounds like a "new" edge on old 80s music but I kinda like it...wonder what the rest of the album will be like.

Real Life Lara
18-10-05, 13:41
...is that the one that plays on the mobile phone advert? I've only ever heard that sample if it is, but it sounds cool! :D

tlr online
18-10-05, 13:42
Haven't heard it. Aaron's song of the day, perhaps? ;)

Mona Sax
18-10-05, 13:47
It's sad Madonna has to sample stuff to create a hit nowadays. Heck, she was the one who set new trends in the '80s, and now she's become just as unoriginal as everyone else in the charts. She probably doesn't even write her own songs anymore.

Real Life Lara
18-10-05, 13:50
Hmm but I guess after having so many hits and for so long it's harder to come up with original stuff. :confused: Personally I think she lost it as soon as she started singing with Britney. Now that was an all time low... :rolleyes: (not a Britney fan here obviously http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/vlol.gif )

Edit: Hey, Congrats Mona! (1000 posts) http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif :D

[ 18. October 2005, 14:53: Message edited by: Real Life Laa ]

Mona Sax
18-10-05, 14:03
Thanks.
Yeah, I don't like Britney either. :D

Real Life Lara
18-10-05, 14:22
Praise Moses, I thought I was the only one :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

ben croft
18-10-05, 18:00
I don't like Britney either. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/forums/graemlins/yuck.gif

Is anyone else addicted to Madonna's single "Hung Up"??Yes, I'm totally addicted to it. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif

T.Onix
18-10-05, 22:27
Haven't heard it either :(

laracroft8290
19-10-05, 03:07
Originally posted by tlr online:
Haven't heard it. Aaron's song of the day, perhaps? ;) good idea http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

Click Here to Download "Hung Up" (http://aaron.tombraiderforums.com/forums/hungup.zip)

Spitfire
19-10-05, 03:57
Madonna, IMHO, has lost it for awhile now. I only listen to her old stuff that had powerful lyrics and great sounds. Her new stuff llike that "Hey Mr.DJ" **** just isnt cutting it for me.

croft28
19-10-05, 05:36
Great track, looking forward to the new album.

Kiss-Bite
19-10-05, 07:04
I love it! I'm looking forward to listening to, Confessions on the Dancefloor. The track samples some music from an ABBA track. This music was also featured on the theme of the comedy show"Gime Gime Gime" It's produced by, Stuat Price, the DJ that produced the music for the transformer-esque, car to robot advert.

A music artist that can influence culture & be successful for 21 years in the music industry, has something unique & far from lost it! Whether or not It's your taste in music.

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2661/madonnaconfessions0pt.jpg

[ 19. October 2005, 08:16: Message edited by: Kiss-Bite ]

Kiss-Bite
19-10-05, 08:24
She does write/co-write her own songs, always has done. She also has written songs for other artist, which have been hits.

laracroft8290
19-10-05, 22:23
Originally posted by SpitFire:
Madonna, IMHO, has lost it for awhile now. I only listen to her old stuff that had powerful lyrics and great sounds. Her new stuff llike that "Hey Mr.DJ" **** just isnt cutting it for me. I like some of Madonna's stuff...I think Ray of Light is my most fav album so far. The Music & American Life albums were okay but I couldn't get into them like I did Ray of Light.

Gomes
20-10-05, 03:01
Ray if Light is the only one I liked.

Ok, I admit this tune is addicting. But I give the credit mostly to Abba. Their music is great. What I like most is the how they muffle the tune at points.

There's this trend lately taking samples of good electronic music.

Some years back Sugababes sang on top of "Are Friends Electric" pratically unchanged for "Freak like Me"

The Genie Queen are sampling "Souvenir" from OMD.

And other stuff I forgot.

(I have insomnia that's why I am posting lots today. Bare with me :D )

[ 20. October 2005, 04:56: Message edited by: Gomes ]

Neteru
20-10-05, 15:02
Hmm, I get annoyed with tracks that pilfer samples from classics, especially when it's from a song that I like. It's like riding on the coat tails of someone else's glory. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/forums/icons/icon13.gif

laracroft8290
20-10-05, 17:28
Originally posted by Neteru:
Hmm, I get annoyed with tracks that pilfer samples from classics, especially when it's from a song that I like. It's like riding on the coat tails of someone else's glory. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/forums/icons/icon13.gif This isn't an attack on you Net but you made me think about what the classics are based on. Are the classics really classics or were they derived from another source :confused:

Neteru
20-10-05, 18:02
I Don't take it as an attack at all lc http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif

It has been argued before now that all musical ideas have been done in the classical pieces of centuries past. Much like the argument that "All writers are thieves." But I do think there is a difference between a traceable influence and direct plagiarism. For me there really is no merit in sampling of this kind. Though it may sound good, I get most annoyed at the artist concerned being applauded for their work when it really isn't their work at all. With this Madonna song, if you take away the ABBA - Gimme, gimme, gimme sample, what do you have? A pretty bland track with very little to say. I also tend to think that if anyone plays a copy of the ABBA track for a week, they'll pretty much forget about Madonna's track because what people are really enjoying about it (I think) is ABBA's work.

laracroft8290
20-10-05, 18:16
Originally posted by Neteru:
I Don't take it as an attack at all lc http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif

It has been argued before now that all musical ideas have been done in the classical pieces of centuries past. Much like the argument that "All writers are thieves." But I do think there is a difference between a traceable influence and direct plagiarism. For me there really is no merit in sampling of this kind. Though it may sound good, I get most annoyed at the artist concerned being applauded for their work when it really isn't their work at all. With this Madonna song, if you take away the ABBA - Gimme, gimme, gimme sample, what do you have? A pretty bland track with very little to say. I also tend to think that if anyone plays a copy of the ABBA track for a week, they'll pretty much forget about Madonna's track because what people are really enjoying about it (I think) is ABBA's work. Up until people said it here I would have never known it was a song from ABBA. If you have the ABBA song that Hung Up is pulling off of I'd like to hear it http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif When people like songs that have been recovered I don't know if they are necessarily applauding the supposed originality of the artist or not. I think they are praising them for the revision of the track...and the new twist or spin they are trying to put on it. It's My Life that No Doubt recovered is another example. It was a nice revision of the previous. Though I doubt the original artists are mad...after all they get royalties :D

[ 20. October 2005, 19:23: Message edited by: laracroft8290 ]

ben croft
20-10-05, 18:40
Thanks laracroft8290 for the music. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif

Neteru
20-10-05, 19:18
LOL, oh I'm sure the original artists are generally ok with it, because, as you say, they do get royalties. But it's not entirely true. Though I couldn't quote one right now, I do recall there have been artists in the past not happy at all about samples being used, and those who have also forbidden the release of cover versions.

About the No Doubt song you talk of, I guess you're referrring to a 'cover version'. That's different to what Madonna's track does. She's not covering it, but sampling it. That's what I mean about the difference between discernible influence and plagiarism.

Yes, I do have the ABBA song. Alas, it's on my other HDD (as is all my music), and the CD's are at my mother's house. I'm not able to install the HDD in my PC yet because I'm waiting for an adapter. If you don't get a copy before, I'll pm you with a link to it when I get the adapter (in the next couple of days). Oh, and it's in ogg format. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

ben croft:
Thanks laracroft8290 for the music.LOL, that's almost an ABBA song too! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/vlol.gif

Fugitive Lara
20-10-05, 21:01
The Abba Track is Gimme Gimme Gimme. You should download it.

The madonna song is ok but all i can hear is abba in the background http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif it sounds more abba than madonna.
That music is only played at the start and in breaks in the abba song, whereas madonna is singing over it so it doesnt sound right...

nomedo
20-10-05, 21:34
im vaitin for a good remix to party to. that tune dwn the abba sound, it doesnt really fit in...

but i hope this cd becomes a hit for madonna, that poor girl could need some money :rolleyes:

laracroft8290
20-10-05, 22:10
I can definitely hear the ABBA sample now that I've heard Gimme Gimme Gimme. I like the updated feel of the sample, it's like it has been refined and tweaked for the 21st century but not losing too much of the original. Now the song makes sense too...the title of the album is Confessions on a Dance Floor (Hung Up is the first track on the album). Madonna wanted it to be an all out dance/club mix album and by "revamping" ABBA I can tell what the rest of the album will be like.