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Nicky
18-09-04, 15:53
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif

OK, I will calm down and try to describe the situation.

Yesterday the techie guy (who was obviously taking his time at the spa the whole week), finally decided to bring me the new monitor and the DVD-CD recorder I had ordered for my PC ages ago.

Fortunately, he left the monitor in the box, so that I would connect it and fix it myself. But before he left, he opened the tower so as to place the DVD in. So far so good.

I had an internal zip drive - remnant of my old PC (I kept that zip drive when I got this PC, because it was working fine; it wasn't 100% compatible with XP, but I had no problems with it). Anyway, when the techie guy opened the case and saw the internal zip, he said that he had to disconnect it, because he had to use its power supply (or something like that, I am not so sure what exactly this thing was) so as to connect the DVD drive in, as there was no other one left for internal devices. Moreover, he said, having this internal zip drive, which was out of date, wouldn't be good for the PC. Fine.

I told him to do it, as I already had an external ZIP drive (had been using it for my laptop up to now), which I could connect to the PC, so there would be no problem. I suggested he should remove the old zip drive from the tower, since it would be inactive, and therefore useless. No, he said. If I remove it, the empty space will fill with dust :rolleyes:

And what happens now? The internal zip is disconnected. The external is connected, works great, and this is the one I use. But habit is a really nasty thing. So today, out of habit, I put a zip disk in the inactive internal zip drive http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif Now I cannot drag it out in any way (not even with kicks or punches :D ), as the drive isn't connected to any power supply and is absolutely dead in the PC :mad:

Is there anything I can do to take it out - except for opening the PC case and making a surgery myself? I really want to avoid that, because I usually don't touch the internals of the PC :D The external devices and all other stuff I can handle them pretty well, but the belly of the beast I think it's better to leave it to the experts. If the only solution is opening it, I know a really good techie I could call, but is there anything less drastic than surgery that could liberate the zip disk from the prison of the inactive drive? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/bash.gif

[ 18. September 2004, 16:56: Message edited by: Nicky ]

Simulation
18-09-04, 16:07
Afternoon Nicky, http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Oh Dear.....

You might be lucky. As the power has been disconnected it can't eject the disk. There is usually a manual method of removing the disk when there is a power loss.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/simulation/Images/zip.gif

Hope this helps http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Nicky
18-09-04, 17:27
Sim, thank you so much http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif I did a variation of this method, and I finally ejected the CD http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

I followed your instructions carefully, but for some strange reason, I couldn't hook the paper clip under the eject lever. I even tried to stick a brow plucker under it http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif Anyway, I couldn't leave it like this, so I decided to take the brave decision and open the tower. I did it with absolute awe, but it turned out that the inside of the box was nothing too imperial after all :D I was about to take the inactive zip drive out of the box, but I couldn't because the screws were too tiny and I didn't have a proper screwdriver - but just then I noticed the emergency eject hole on the back of the drive! So - I straightened the paper clip, stuck it in there and voila! The zip magically was ejected! :D

That was a relief, I must say! :D Now when Monday comes, I'm going to get a nice tiny screwdriver and a little cover for the drive space, and I'm going to make that surgery to get the 'bad tooth' out of the PC :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Neteru
18-09-04, 18:04
OMG guys, girlie opening a tower case ALERT ALERT! :D

Just to mention Nicky: I'm sure you disconnected from the mains power, but just as important really, before touching any of the internal components, make sure you are earthed. A build up of static in/around your body can discharge into components you touch and blow them. So just touch the metal part of the case before you touch anything inside it. This should be enough to earth you. ;)

Nicky
18-09-04, 18:52
Originally posted by Neteru:
OMG guys, girlie opening a tower case ALERT ALERT! :D LMAO! :D The PC survived, I can assure you about it http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/pillow.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Thankies for the advice, Net http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif I'm always very careful with such stuff http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif I'm also sitting on the wooden floor when dealing with electricity, which I think is good? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

In fact this isn't the first time I open a tower; in the past I had many times opened the tower of my old PC, but that one was lame anyway, so it didn't run any really serious risk of becoming worse than it initially was :D I was a bit hesitant with the current one, because it's relatively new, and far more complicated on the inside than the other one.

Neteru
18-09-04, 19:36
Um, wooden floor not the best for dealing with electric items as wood is a good conductor of electricity. But for something like static, as long as you discharge any built up by touching the metal part of the case you'll be fine. Then again, if you want to be extra safe, make sure you're wearing a thick rubber suit and rubber boots with a nice 6" rubber sole. :D And just think of how fetching you'll look too! :D

Joseph
18-09-04, 20:04
Flying mode (by pressing the "B" key on your keyboard) is safest before opening your pc case. :D

Nicky
18-09-04, 20:19
Wearing a thick rubber suit and rubber boots with 6" rubber sole and flying about - sounds like a female Gagarin is going to be born soon :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Simulation
18-09-04, 21:39
Hey Jo, Net....... What are us tech guys going to do..... :confused:

Nicky has found out that Tower PC's may look big, but are in fact mainly filled with air...... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

New-Raider
18-09-04, 21:42
That thing about getting dust in the empty space, I thought it was just bunk too, like he was just lazy, even if he could jack up the price because of it, but it turns out he is correct. :eek:
The cooling fan is not used to that space and is uneven now, so dust particles could be blown around like an undertoe in a river.
The dust blown could also have magnetic properties if from a static electric source.
My advice is to shop around for a low price internal zip drive.
The external ones seem to be less of an expence, but it's worth it to keep your computer in good shape.

Neteru
18-09-04, 22:12
LOL Joseph! :D

Originally posted by Simulation:
Hey Jo, Net....... What are us tech guys going to do..... :confused:

Nicky has found out that Tower PC's may look big, but are in fact mainly filled with air...... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif LOL, um, maybe we can bribe her to keep quiet? :D

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif Nicky, er, do you like chocolates? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif

On a serious note, don't you have the dust cover? You know that bit of plastic that covered the space before you install a device like this?

Nicky
18-09-04, 23:05
LMAO!!! :D

Umm, yes, chocolates are my weak point, actually - OMG, I confessed it, now you know! :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif But I won't bend that easily, I will resist! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif

The dust cover: it's long gone, ever since I had the internal zip drive put in the tower (about 2 and a half years ago). Since the PC came with the zip drive already in, there was no dust cover anywhere. I know he was right about the dust, but the real reason why he didn't want to remove the drive was that he was bored to death :rolleyes: Believe it or not, most of the time he was fixing his hair looking in the mirror I have on the wall, rather than dealing with the PC http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif

Draco
18-09-04, 23:16
Why couldn't he put the DVD ROM where the ZIP is...?

Nicky
18-09-04, 23:20
Draco, the internal zip drive's space is about 5cm shorter than the CD's space (has the same length as a floppy drive space)!

Draco
18-09-04, 23:24
Oh, that is a small one hehe. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Nicky
18-09-04, 23:30
Yea, it's tiny :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif Actually this zip drive is out of date - just think that the PC couldn't read it as Zip drive, it saw it as Diskette Drive B :D

So, on the positive side, it's good that it's out of use now. It gave me the chance to update myself http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Neteru
18-09-04, 23:32
Oh you can resist can you?
http://www.doublefeature.com/unconventionaut/photos/slideshows/trip_and_con/images/033_tower_of)chocolate.jpg

Are you sure about that?
http://www.mathsyear2000.org/numberland/15/chocolate.jpg

I mean, you just might.....
http://www.peytonsphotoworks.com/galleries/alaska/images/chocolate-20030922-6799.jpg

Cave in :D

Nicky
18-09-04, 23:47
OMG! How can a girl resist to this? :( :D But I won't fall without resistance, no I won't!

Take that: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/pillow.gif And that: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/pistol.gif

OK, I resisted. Now I can have those chocolates http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif :D

Neteru
19-09-04, 12:18
LOL, oh ok, go on then... *pushes Nicky into the chocolate waterfall :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Nicky
19-09-04, 12:25
So you think you'll get away? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif Not that easily! *drags Net along into the aforementioned waterfall* http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif :D

SpArKy
19-09-04, 19:40
Nice to see everyone getting along nicely, hello! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Nicky
20-09-04, 13:16
I would never imagine that looking for a dust cover would be like going treasure-hunting :rolleyes: It's an absolute rarity, as it turned out, at least here. It seems that if you know a techie, he can get you one that's not in use anymore, but there's no way to buy such a thing in a computer store.

So for the time being I will have to go with the inartistic white tape I put over the slot of the internal zip drive, so as to avoid future accidents with zip disks :rolleyes:

*Dammit, I so wanted to open the tower again :( :D *

Neteru
20-09-04, 13:44
I was going to suggest a piece of card myself. As for opening the tower again, resist the temptation! *slaps hand :D

Nicky
20-09-04, 15:26
*rubs hand* Ouch! :( :D

Piece of card - of course :rolleyes: How didn't I think of it in the first place? That wasn't a blonde moment, that was a blonde weekend :rolleyes: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Thankies for the idea, Net http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Neteru
20-09-04, 17:24
You can even attach one of the above chocolate pics to remind you of the bribe not to touch! :D

Nicky
20-09-04, 19:38
LMAO!!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif That would be so more effective indeed :D I'll take the waterfall then http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Anubis_AF
22-09-04, 12:42
Originally posted by Neteru:
Oh you can resist can you?
http://www.doublefeature.com/unconventionaut/photos/slideshows/trip_and_con/images/033_tower_of)chocolate.jpg

Are you sure about that?
http://www.mathsyear2000.org/numberland/15/chocolate.jpg

I mean, you just might.....
http://www.peytonsphotoworks.com/galleries/alaska/images/chocolate-20030922-6799.jpg

Cave in :D WHY r u mean??! lol ;)