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schroedb
09-02-05, 20:58
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00006377O.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
I bought today the above Edition of Tomb Raider. It includes TR2-4.

I have some Problems I cannot fix, so please help me to solve it.

1.) Tomb Raider II:

ingame sound: ok
Movies: ok
music + surrounding sound. No :-(

2.) Tomb Raider III:

ingame sound: ok
Movies: No, I see only Eidos-logo, after I see no intro-Movie
music + surounding sound: ok

3.) Tomb Raider 4
all ok, except slow loading, but i must try this speed-patch.

So how can I get work TR2 sound probs and TR3 Movies?

THX
here my dxdiag
DxDiag.txt (http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/DxDiag.txt)

Neteru
10-02-05, 00:13
Have you tried the patches for the games?

TR2 Patch HERE (http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tr2/fixes.html)

TR3 Patch HERE (http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tr3/utilities.html)

TR4 Parch HERE (http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tr4/fixes.html)

Have you also tried to run the games in Compatibility Mode? Right click on the game exe, Properties and on the Compatibility tab select Windows98 / Windows Me

Ensure you have the lastest drivers for your video card and sound card too.

Joseph
10-02-05, 00:26
Hi Net http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif . Your links to patches for TR3 and TLR are not linking to the exact page of xp patches. ;)

Tomb Raider III patch Windows XP DOWNLOAD from: THIS PAGE <- - - - linkie (http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/windowsxp2.html)

The Last Revelation Patch (called TLR Speed Loader, but in fact is patch version 1.2) = TLR Speed Loader *** Windows XP DOWNLOAD
download from: THIS PAGE <- - - - linkie (http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/windowsxp2.html)

[ 10. February 2005, 00:42: Message edited by: joseph ]

Joseph
10-02-05, 00:50
Rigor, Welcome to the forums. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

1.) Tomb Raider II:

ingame sound: ok
Movies: ok
music + surrounding sound. No :-(
Check if you have a audiocable present, connecting your cdrom- or dvdrom-player to your motherboard or soundcard.

Also, check that "digital audio" is enabled:
First, in Windows soundvolume control, check that CD-AUDIO is not mute. Volume up.

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/cdaudio.gif

And check the same situation in the sound control menu of your soundchip, or soundcard (like the Creative surroundmixer with Creative Soundblaster Live! or Audigy2).

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/creative1.jpg

After this, go to Device Manager. Doubleclick on your cd-rom drive / tab Properties. Check on "digital cd-audio for this cd-rom drive".
http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/cdplayer2.gif

Joseph
10-02-05, 00:56
Btw: you have the same graph card as i have! :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif
Why do you still use an older driver? (Driver Date/Size: 12/1/2004). Latest Catalyst 5.2 (http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/winxp/radeonwdm-xp.html?type=xp&prodType=graphic&prod=productsXPdriver&submit.x=9&submit.y=3) < - - - linkie

[ 10. February 2005, 00:57: Message edited by: joseph ]

Neteru
10-02-05, 01:21
Thankies Joseph, you always deal with this stuff better than I! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

schroedb
10-02-05, 09:32
Thx, first for the warm welcome :)

I hope it is not because of a DVD Version. I will check the patches and your hints I write in the evening again :)

so long . . .
greetings
Rigor
__________________EDIT_________
- Tried Patch for TR4 -> very good speed ok!! (Thx, Neteru :))
- For T2+3 i think I need more time to check.
- @joseph: This I checked, I have all you show me. even I try to test a normal Musik-CD it works. But not TR2 :-(. I write more in the evening. Catalyst 5.2? Is this not 6.14? OK I check and download Driver (wxp-w2k-catalyst-8-10-050119a-020581c.exe?):).

[ 10. February 2005, 11:08: Message edited by: Rigor ]

schroedb
10-02-05, 13:44
TR2: patch dont work. Hear no music. No difference.
TR3: after patching, he search for CD. :-(

here I send a picture of this (caotic) DVD Collectors edition.
http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/DVD.GIF

[ 11. February 2005, 21:03: Message edited by: Rigor ]

Joseph
11-02-05, 02:01
For TR2, you'll need to make a audio-fix then, as explained here: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/tr1walk/trso_sound.html
Tr3 asking for cd. i don't understand, because you have it. PM me your email adress and i can send you a tool. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

schroedb
11-02-05, 12:45
Thx for offering help. . . PM is send

Joseph
11-02-05, 13:59
Check your email box, Rigor. ;)

Your screenshot, could you show screenshots of the contents of the DATA folder, the tr2, tr3, and tr4 folder?

Grandizer
11-02-05, 17:59
I have the same DVD and the same problems.

As Roger said, the slow loading problem in TR4 is wiped out with the patch.
I burned an Audio-CD like decribed in the second method and I get BGM in TR2 now.
I confirm, that TR3 won't work anymore when patched (asks for CD).

I want to make a CD for each game, but I don't know which files belong where.

Here screenshots of the directories you asked for:

http://grandizer.250free.com/data.gif

http://grandizer.250free.com/tr2.gif

http://grandizer.250free.com/tr3.gif

http://grandizer.250free.com/tr4.gif

Joseph
11-02-05, 19:37
OK. I will start with TR2. Here is what the original cd looks like:

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr2-cd-contents-1.gif

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr2-cd-data-2.gif

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr2-cd-fmv-3.gif

The DirectX folder is of no importance, you can ignore it.
I have to go now. I'll be back in half an hour with screens of TR3 and TR4.

schroedb
11-02-05, 19:39
@Grandizer: wow, great screencopys. looks infact better than my one :).
In my installationbook, it says that this versions dont have to be patched, because all files are up to date.
But than why (for goods sake) this game dont run as good as it should?
I mean they make so much effort to collect and reorder and maybe patch ( and and and ) this versions (year 2002). I dont understand this ;-(

To the Files we see above:
T2 T3 T4 is only a small data-folder. I make here sreenshot of the others, when i find time.

Joseph
11-02-05, 19:48
And this is how NERO looks at it. It sees the audiofiles too.

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr2-cd-nero-4.gif

schroedb
11-02-05, 20:02
Yes. And this you dont see in DVD-Version. There you only see a (for copy-protection I think) "Track1" with 360 min. But until now, i dont know where they put this tracks? Maybe it is the *.wad file (250 MB) which is in the "audio"-Folder. But than I dont know why it not work.

schroedb
11-02-05, 20:08
--------------------EDIT-------------------------

OK.OK Sorry sorry :)

Here the File to download:

Here the Contents of DVD Collectors Edition (http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/DVD.txt)

[ 11. February 2005, 20:45: Message edited by: Rigor ]

Joseph
11-02-05, 20:23
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif Nobody's gonna read THAT!!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif

Joseph
11-02-05, 20:37
You just made the longest single post in TR-forums history!!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif
Only, it has NO clue, it is completely ueseless. Only taking up place. So i'll delete it if you don't do it yourself, please. :rolleyes:

[* EDIT: OK, you edited it, but it still is useless. Nobody is going to read that. It is obvious that it shows in text the details of all the files on the dvd. So what.
Let's try to solve the problem that it does not play the games like it should.]

[ 11. February 2005, 20:42: Message edited by: joseph ]

Joseph
11-02-05, 20:46
Originally posted by Rigor:
@Grandizer: wow, great screencopys. looks infact better than my one :).
Yes that is because Grandizer and i converted ours to *.gif extension before uploading. While yours is low-res .jpeg.

[ 11. February 2005, 20:47: Message edited by: joseph ]

schroedb
11-02-05, 20:49
Originally posted by joseph:
You just made the longest single post in TR-forums history!!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif Öhhhmm ok http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif

Joseph
11-02-05, 21:02
Originally posted by Rigor:
--------------------EDIT-------------------------

OK.OK Sorry sorry :)

Here the File to download:

Here the Contents of DVD Collectors Edition
Aha! Much better! Thanks! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif
You'll agree with me that it is better readable to the eye this way than paste into this thread. ;)
Still, i am not going to read all that.
You see, you have bought a dvd, and it should work. Let's try to get it working then.
May i copy and paste here a part of the text of the email you sent to me? Please say yes, then we can go on with this. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[ 11. February 2005, 21:05: Message edited by: joseph ]

schroedb
11-02-05, 21:06
Yes http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Joseph
11-02-05, 21:26
Thanks Rigor. :D
Originally emailed to me by Rigor:
Sorry but it don’t work good. (....)
Message CD is missing is gone, but now game crashes before starting anything. L.

For T2 I cannot make a CD with this audio-flies , because I have the DVD-Version, so its more complicated. I also guess, that this DVD works not as same as the CD-Version. Never mind. If you have any other idea I would be glad. It cannot be that I buy a DVD-Version andthan it don’t work. Even of one of my older computer (windows Millenium, P200) the game dont work as it should do. Before some years, I had TR2-4 as normal CD-versions (I sold them, but I regret now) I had never so much problems. This make me really sad. So I think I must get T3 and T2 as normal CD-Version again L.

And i replied: Originally replied to Rigor's email, by Joseph:
I don't know if i aleady said it but:
In xp, never launch TR2 - 5 with the autoplay. Always: put cd (or dvd) in tray. TR-menu comes up, you choose "exit".
So, for TR3:
Click Start / All programs / Core Design / Tombraider3 / Run game.
Or: open Core Design / TR3 folder, and doubleclick the tr3.exe. You will, of course, have replaced the exe with the one from the patch.

Now, the audioreplacement. Maybe you should do this: copy ALL the TR2 game files, burn onto cd, then make a replacement audio-cd.
Your problem is totally new to us, because this is obviously a new release, we have never before seen this dvd-version on the forums.
So, i don't know yet what they changed on the files, or if they are exact the same as the cd versions.

You are absolutely right: "It cannot be that I buy a DVD-Version andthan it don’t work"
Please, I prefer to keep this discussion on the forums, where it belongs, so that everyone can contribute. ;)

See you there.
Rigor, do you have a nVidia graphic card? Which drivers version do you currently use?

[ 11. February 2005, 21:30: Message edited by: joseph ]

Grandizer
11-02-05, 22:59
OK, I just made a TR2 CD, structured exactly like posted above.
It works like a charm! thanks joseph! (cd-autorun works too)
An important note: I had to put all 61 tracks to get the right music in the game. Putting only 2 to 61, like mentionned in the guide, plays the wrong music (no music in the menu for example). May be someone can rectify this in the guide.
Used Nero Express to burn by the way (version 6.6.0.1)

Waiting impatiently for the structure of TR3 and 4 :D

[ 11. February 2005, 23:07: Message edited by: Grandizer ]

Joseph
11-02-05, 23:26
:D
Very good! I noticed on my original cd i have tracks named 1 - 61, and the 61 is a dummy!

I'll send the next screenshots as soon as i can. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[ 12. February 2005, 02:47: Message edited by: joseph ]

Joseph
12-02-05, 01:11
http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr3-contents-1.gif

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr3-audio-2.gif

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr3-cuts-3.gif


http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr3-data-4.gif

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr3-fmv-5.gif

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr3-pix-6.gif

Ignore 'DirectX', 'Eidosnet', 'Support' -folders.

Joseph
12-02-05, 02:45
http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr4-contents-1.gif

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr4-audio-2.gif

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr4-data.2.gif

http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/Images/tr4-fmv.2.gif

schroedb
12-02-05, 14:24
@Grandizer: Thats good news. I willl try that. Thx for the hint with the 61 tracks I make one when I have time.

@joseph: I use a Radeon 9500 pro. and I use the latest Catalyst Driver. 6.14.
http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/ati.gif

schroedb
12-02-05, 15:13
I cannot burn mixed CD on Nero, because he say *.wma he dont accept. Can you say how you burnt?

Joseph
12-02-05, 15:29
Originally posted by Rigor:
I use the latest Catalyst Driver. 6.14.
http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/ati.gif No, you use the latest Catalyst: 5.2. ;)
('6.14'= the 2D part of it.)

Grandizer
12-02-05, 15:44
@ joseph
Thank you very much. Gonna make TR3 right away and see if I get the FMV.

@ rigor
I use the latest Nero Express version:

http://grandizer.250free.com/neroexpr.jpg

schroedb
12-02-05, 15:56
Ah yes. After installing my Neroexpress6 it works (burning). But I made a ISO-File first. I loaded with D-Tool. Did not work, no musik, i will burn a cd and try again. I report.

Grandizer
12-02-05, 16:01
You better test with a CD-RW instead of ISO...

schroedb
12-02-05, 16:14
It works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No I test wether there is a cut scene at the end of level 1 or not ;), Than I am satisfied for now.

P.S.: did you already test T3 in that way??


@joseph ok 5.2
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-1.gif

-------------EDIT---------
Cutscene works (first time I hear it in english http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

[ 12. February 2005, 16:53: Message edited by: Rigor ]

Grandizer
12-02-05, 18:11
OK, my report on the TR3 CD.
Making this was a bit of a challenge.

First of all, don't use the patched tomb3.exe. The one provided on the DVD works perfectly with Windows XP.

Second, the files that have a tr3-extension should be kept tr3, and not changed to tr2!
Same goes to tom3pc.dat and mai3.sfx, DON'T change them to tombpc.dat and main.sfx.

Third, rename the fmv files from rp3 to rpl.

That's it. You get a full working 528MB CD (yes, the intro fmv shows up after the Eidos video http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif ).

schroedb
12-02-05, 18:46
You are great. You are Nr.1.

You are one of this family????? :D

http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/incred.gif

Whish you a nice weekend.

Grandizer
12-02-05, 19:04
Who knows? :D

Big thanks go to joseph. It would have been a lot harder without his precious contribution http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

schroedb
12-02-05, 19:18
Yes thats true.
Without him we would be in a "trial and error" mode. Thx also from me Joseph :D

P.S.: Hope one of Eidos see this tread, to learn how to make a working DVD (i am sure they didn`t testet the DVD for 100% working) http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Joseph
12-02-05, 20:27
Hey guys!!! I'm happy you succeeded! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif I'm glad i could be of help. :D

But still, it is not solved why the dvd doesn't work as it should. Well anyway, when i see it in a shop be sure i'll buy it to examine. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif What have you paid for it?

Happy Raiding both of you! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

Grandizer
12-02-05, 20:45
I got it for just 7 Euro.

Joseph
12-02-05, 21:36
Wow! Cheap for 3 games! :D
And could you please present a readable screenie of the backside of the box where it tells all the details about which company brought it out and when , "recommended" specifications etcetera? Interesting info? Thanks in advance.

Grandizer
12-02-05, 23:12
Yeah, very cheap, that's why I bought it :D
But cheap is cheap, nothing works right :(

Anyway, you can download the scan of the back HERE (http://grandizer.250free.com/trback.jpg)

Joseph
13-02-05, 00:16
WindowsXP is not supported. :rolleyes:

Still, when partially reconstructed the games seem to work for you both without patch. :D

schroedb
13-02-05, 10:38
I also payed 7€ and 3€ sending. (www.amazon.de).
I did not see this game by amazon.com. So if you want this game, perhaps by ammazon.de.
The "Bonus-stuff" has some nice Artwork. Some files have a size of over 30 MB. So they are in best quality and in format: *png,*tif, . . .(look at the Filelist I send above).
THe included 3 screensavers dont work. PC say he need windows 3.11 or Win95 to install (lol).
So for me the high Quality artworks seems to be the best om this DVD.

P.S.: lets see what Eidos-tech-support will tell me about that problem. I send an email to them.

- I found out in WWW that this game came out on chrismas 2002, with several other "Collectors Value" like Soul Reaver 1+2" and "Commandos 1+2".
- It had a price of 50€!!! when it came out.

(PC UVP: 49,99 USK: 16 Action-Adventure, Eidos Interactive. Budget-Edition (Collectors Value), DVD EAN 4042782000317)

[ 13. February 2005, 11:32: Message edited by: Rigor ]

schroedb
14-02-05, 12:17
@Joseph:
So, EIDOS was quick in answering. Sad but true, it is only in german. I have no time to translate for the moment, so I paste the german conversation with EIDOS-Support as download-file.
I hope someone has time to translate. Perhaps I try to do in the evening. Sorry again.

EIDOS ANSWER (http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/EIDOS.txt)

Joseph
14-02-05, 15:04
Honourable mister Schröder,
At first you should realise that none of this Tomb Raider DVD was developed for Windows XP. Sadly we cannot guarantee that this software works entirely!

You could take following steps in order to play Tomb Raider:
Navigate with Explorer to the directory, in which you have installed Tomb Raider. There, right-click the 'play-file'(EXE file) f.i. Tomb.exe, and then you go in the submenu PROPERTIES. Here you must activate the Compatibility-mode and fix it at "Windows98/ME Compatibility mode".

After that, in Setup please set the resolution at 640 x 480 or choose a higher resolution and de-activate the FMVs.

Please after that start the DirectX Diagnose program, by clicking Start -> Run. Click on the tab Sound. Set the slidebar for the Sound accelleration at standard accelleration. These settings activate as soon as you have exited the program - a Windows reboot is not needed. If the problem persists please set the slide bar to minimal or no accelleration.

It is the first time we hear that the DVD does not work correctly! What happens exactly, when you place the DVD in the drive?


Previous Message:
Boris Schröder

Honorable Ladies and Gentlemen, i have the following problem: After successfull install on my Windows XP system, there are no environmental sounds to be heard in Tomb Raider 2. This is a reason why at the end of "Level 1" no cutscene follows. This way, the game loses atmosphere. In Tomb Raider 3 there are no cutscenes. After the Eidos logo immediately comes the Startscreen with the select menu. Tomb Raider 4 does run 100%, but the loading is very very slow.
To this problem we have started a thread at (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=001501;p=1). However, we were not able to solve the problem in a normal way. The DVD is not functioning right this way. Only after i burn a cd for tomb raider myself and rename the files for the cutscenes in TR3 from rp3 into rpl, it works. Also for TR2 i had to compile my own cd to burn and add a 40 MB package of WMV-files downloaded from the internet which i then could burn with Nero6 in MIX-mode. When i explore the DVD i don't see any soundtracks for TR2. Where are they then please???? All in all, i don't understand why this DVD won't function on my P200 with Windows ME. I am asking your opinion. Does a patch exist, which solves these problems (those for the cd-version do not work, except TR4). Greeting
Boris Schröder.

[ 14. February 2005, 20:32: Message edited by: joseph ]

schroedb
15-02-05, 20:14
@Joseph: :) thx a lot for translating. I send a second message and got a second answer nothing worth to be mentioned. Eidos-Service basically said: "DVD not made for Windows XP". Read Systemrequirements.
So nobody there recognised the fact and effort we must undertake to get a working "non-DVD".

greetings
Rigor

Joseph
15-02-05, 21:10
Yeah but that's what i have said also: Originally posted by joseph:
WindowsXP is not supported. :rolleyes:

And you wrote to them: this DVD won't function on my P200 with Windows ME. So, you're on Windows ME.
Why did you say that? Because your dxdiag shows WindowsXP Pro, and an AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+, ~1.6GHz. :confused:

Or, do you mean: you tried also on an older pc with WinME just to check?

[ 15. February 2005, 21:13: Message edited by: joseph ]

schroedb
16-02-05, 11:21
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Dont want to confuse you
Or, do you mean: you tried also on an older pc with WinME just to check? Sure I only testet. I try it because this Support-Team resist to mean I shall read and that XP is not supported. (what we all said). But know he cannot say this. Because on machines with Me and P 200 it also failes. (besides I dont like ME).
This DVD is working. And in the letter to Eidos I say when I dont know the Cutscenes and the Musik on the TR2-4 i would not know what is missing (perhaps).
Greetings

Grandizer
16-02-05, 21:39
Well, they don't even know what they are talking about.
This DVD was obviously made without sufficient testing, not even on older Windows versions. They just made sure the games work, and didn't pay attention to details like the BGM in TR2 or the FMVs in TR3 (and to be frank, I wouldn't have noticed if I didn't come to this site...)

schroedb
16-02-05, 22:34
. . . .but please say now you enjoy TR more than before http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Joseph
16-02-05, 22:46
Grandizer. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif You made me very curious to try the dvd out. I saw it available on the german amazon.
Nowhere on a dutch site. :(
I don't buy via internet shops (don't pay via internet). Do they send 'under rembours', if you know what i mean: i pay to the delivery-guy who brings it at my door? That is: to a foreign, yet neighbour country (Netherlands)?

Grandizer
16-02-05, 23:34
@ Rigor
Definitely! the music in TR2 is essential imho! makes the atmosphere much more dramatic.
And the FMVs of TR3 are fun.
Same goes for the loading times of TR4, it would have been annoying without the patch.

@ joseph
The DVD is not available directly from Amazon. You'll have to ask the different resellers that are listed for the article by Amazon, wether they accept other payment methods than credit card.
Or look by eBay.

Neteru
17-02-05, 08:33
Joseph:
I don't buy via internet shopsIf you're worried about reliability Joseph, I've never had a problem with Amazon.co.uk, and any reimbursements due are paid back into your account immediately.

Nicky
18-02-05, 22:20
Hey http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Sorry for butting in, but I noticed the cover pic of Rigor's game in the first page, and it got me curious. What kind of version is it exactly? I understand it's a collection of the three TRs, but I can see it has some extra features? And is it available worldwide, in stores - or you can merely order it via the net and in specific countries? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Joseph
19-02-05, 13:13
Nicky, i saw it only on the german amazon, amazon.de

Nicky
19-02-05, 13:20
I see, Jo... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Thanks http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Not that I expected to find it here in this country anyway :rolleyes: Oh well, maybe someday... Dum spiro, spero http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[ 19. February 2005, 14:11: Message edited by: Nicky ]

schroedb
20-02-05, 15:04
For those of you being interested in the "Artworks"-Folder of the DVD (430 MB !!) I made 3 snapshots of all 37 pictures (Thumbnails) (mabe you already have them from other CDs or other places in the www). Its only a small impression.

. . . I dont want to spoil here, so, I only paste links ;) (139 kb all)

Thunbnails 1 (http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/1.JPG)
Thunbnails 2 (http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/2.JPG)
Thunbnails 3 (http://www.schroedb.i-networx.de/3.JPG)

PS.: The so called "add-on"-Folder only includes 2 ZIP-Files which are part of the TR2-Addon. It also say when installing that this files are DEMO-files. Watever it means (i dont know). So far so long nice sunday to all of you Raider-Fans http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Neteru
20-02-05, 15:21
Excellent Rigor http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif Now we know where to come if we want a specific picture of Lara! :D

Nicky
20-02-05, 17:24
Whoa, thanks Rigor! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Nice Sunday to you too http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

schroedb
20-02-05, 19:42
Originally posted by Nicky:
Not that I expected to find it here in this country anyway :rolleyes: Oh well, maybe someday... Dum spiro, spero http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif ME, I only can give the hint: try to contact the Sellers in amazon.de Marcetplace.

Search first for the DVD, than look under "alle Angebote" (all offers). Here you see a list of all offers and you can see the sellers name (for example smm.de (www.smm.de). Than find out there homepage and find out they sell to other countrys or not.
(hope you can read a bit german :( )

Grandizer
20-02-05, 21:17
Rigor, how did you manage to see all PSD files? some of them won't show by me, not on MS Photodraw and not on IrfanView (probably too big for the software to handle).

Nicky
20-02-05, 22:37
Rigor http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif Thanks for that http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif No, I don't know german :( Well, except for a few words :D But I'll have a look anyway; these sites have the same structure, and most of the times it's not too difficult to make guesses http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Joseph
20-02-05, 22:54
Originally posted by Grandizer:
Rigor, how did you manage to see all PSD files? some of them won't show by me, not on MS Photodraw and not on IrfanView (probably too big for the software to handle). Maybe Rigor has Photoshop installed. It's never a case of how big is the file, but what extension is the file.
In IrfanView, click Options / Properties / tab "Extensions". There you check ON 'PSD files' so that IrfanView can read them.

schroedb
20-02-05, 23:46
Maybe Rigor has Photoshop installed. It's never a case of how big is the file, but what extension is the file.
In IrfanView, click Options / Properties / tab "Extensions". There you check ON 'PSD files' so that IrfanView can read them.I agree completly to Joseph http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif but Irfanview maybe don`t show all psd-files (I don`t know why).
This screens I made with Photoshop 7.0. Only this programm shows all Thumbnails correctly. (I dont try Gimp 2.2, maybe there is a chance to see them also correctly).

Buzz
01-07-05, 19:21
Hello!
Iīve bought Tomb Raider II-IV (Collectorīs value) on DVD, too. I was disappointed because of the missing Music and short FMV`s in Ingame graphics, which I knew from the playstation version. In fact Eidos didnīt put them an the DVD. Maybe itīs a technical problem, because Mixed Mode (Data/Audio Track) on DVD wouldnīT work? So I downloaded the soundpackage from www.tombraiderchronicles.com (http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com) . After iīve burned it and put in first cd-rom the sound was like the Playstation version, but in english. So I extracted the soundfiles from my playstation-CD, took their first dummy track and for the rest the german tracks. Now the PC-Version has all sounds I was familiar to from the Playstation version (and itīs in my language, and with the short FMV between first and second level). I think itīs an easy solution.

Joseph
01-07-05, 21:03
What you say sounds good, Buzzlightyear! You're talking about TR2, right? So you now hear the PlayStation sounds while playing the pc-version? But how does the game know when to trigger them? You know: in specific areas, and before specific enemies will attack, the PS version has those extra music... the PC game does not know when to trigger those tracks... or do they? :confused:
Could you elaborate a bit more about what you did?

Buzz
02-07-05, 16:40
Hello!
The Pc Version seems also triggering the short FMVīs and Music at the points where they belong. I donīt know how it works but anyway the only important thing seems to be the right order of the Tracks (desciption here: http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tr1/trso_sound.html). I made an Audio-Cd with the missing soundfiles (not contained on the DVD-Version; thanks to Eidos). I extracted the files as Wave from the playstation Version of TR2. The first Track has to be a dummy Track because normally it would be the DATA Track (Mixed Mode CD). So I took the dummy Track from tombraiderchronicles soundpackage as first Track. Then I added the Rest (Track 2-61) from my PS version. Then I burned it with Nero. Now the important thing. The Audio CD (TR2 Sound) has to be in first CD-Rom. The Game-DVD elsewhere. It works fine.
I would like to make my soundfiles downloadable for other users but I donīt know how to make it and what about copy rights?

Now my problem I donīt have cutscenes in TR3.

Joseph
02-07-05, 16:46
The method you describe is the normal method for a mixed mode cd, nothing new. But i guess those 61 tracks that you extracted from your PS disc, are the same as on the pc version. Or do they differ from the PC version soundfiles?

I don't have the PS version, so i can't check myself.

Joseph
02-07-05, 16:51
I have: </font> the original TR2 Gold cd,</font> a Sold Out version TR2 single ,
and</font> this German DVD TR2 -3 -4.</font>

Buzz
02-07-05, 17:31
I think they are the same. But I only have:
- All Ps-Versions of TR
- TR 2-4 DVD

- TR 1 (Premium Collection)maybe the same as "Gold"

And my problem was to restore the sound of TR2.

Joseph
02-07-05, 18:18
I just played TR2 from the german DVD version.

Indeed it misses the Intro music, ambient sounds, and some pre-action sounds like for instance a quick rolling music-sound just before Lara handles the cable-lift over the T-Rex pit in the first level. And it does not play the FMV at the end of the first level (the monk at the door, killing himself with the potion from a bottle).

On this pc i have a cd-rw burner ("K") and a dvd player ("L"). The German DVD can of course only be played in my dvd-player "L".
When i play my original TR2 cd in my dvd-drive "L" (which is the second player on my pc) i get the same result, although all files are (of course) complete on the cd. TR2 original cd needs to be played in the first drive ("K"), and i always do. Then i get all the sounds, intro, ambient sounds, triggered sounds, fmv's with full sound... just like you are used to on your PS version.

On my other pc, i have 3 players: A DVD-burner ("F"), a CD-burner("G") and a DVD-player ("H").
I installed and played the German dvd-version of TR2, in the first player, the DVD-burner "F". Still, no intromusic nor ambient sounds, no action-triggered musicsounds and no 'suicidal Monk'-FMV at the end of level 1.


The TR2 version on the German dvd is NOT complete. The abovementioned TR2 soundfiles are simply not present.
And the FMV at the end of level 1 IS present on the dvd, but is obviously not triggered, because it doesn't show up at all. Maybe because it is in the DVD's GENERAL 'fmv' folder, instead of in a fmv folder in the TR2 Directory, as it should and as it is on the original cd.

But it also is a fact, that this DVD is not claiming to be XP-compatible, on the box nor in the readme. And it doesn't matter if you use the 'Windows 98 / ME compatibility mode' of XP, that has no effect on this german TR2.
I will check how this DVD plays on my Windows ME partition. I will be back with that later.

So you either use the soundpackage from chronicles.com, or copied from your PS disc, they are the same.
There is a difference between TR1 PS or PC version (the latter has less ingame musictracks than the first)
But TR2 original PC version and PS version have the same sounds.

[ 02. July 2005, 21:33: Message edited by: joseph ]

Joseph
02-07-05, 18:34
Buzzlightyear, i wasn't naming my Tomb Raider collection, i was only naming the TR2 versions i have.
My collection:
</font> TR1 Gold. Premier Collection. Two cd's include Unfinished Business. I have 2 original copies of this version.</font> TR 1 single. Sold Out version.</font> TR2 Gold. Premier Collection. Two cd's include Golden Mask. I have 2 original copies of this version.</font> TR 2 single. Sold Out version.</font> TR3. Premier Collection. Two cd's include The Lost Artefact. I have 2 original copies of this version.</font> TR4 The Last Revelation. Premier Collection. I have 3 original copies of this version.</font> TR5 Chronicles. 2 CD's, includes the Level Editor. I have 1 original copy of this version.</font> TR 2 - 3 - 4 DVD, containing the German versions of these 3 TR's.</font> TR6 AOD. First version the day it was released.</font> TR6 AOD. recent release which is a version with the Eidos patches already in it.</font>

Joseph
02-07-05, 19:28
OK, here is the result. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

I just tested the German DVD version of TR2 on my Windows Millennium partition.

In ME, i have 2 players:
dvd-rom player is "E".
cd-rw burner is "G".

I played the German TR2 dvd in the dvd-rom player "E" of course.
Well, however it is the player with the lowest drive letter, it still plays no intro music, ambient sounds and actiontriggered music (because they are not even present on the dvd), and it also shows NO 'suicidal Monk'-fmv at the end of level 1 (although the fmv is present on the dvd -however not in the right folder, as i explained above).

Also, it proves to be also in Windows ME a fact, that the original TR2 cd has to be in the player with the lowest drive letter ("E", in my case): when i play it from the other (the cd-rw burner "G"), i get no intro music, ambient sounds and actiontriggered music, the framerate is too slow to play. I didn't even play till the end of the level if the fmv would show up.
But playing original TR2 cd from dvd-rom player with the lowest drive letter ("E"), i get all sounds, fmv's and excellent performance.

[ 02. July 2005, 21:25: Message edited by: joseph ]

Buzz
02-07-05, 21:03
Hello joseph!
What I wanted to say was that I have to put my self created Music-CD (not Mixed-Mode) of TR2 into the first letter drive. The Music is definitivly not on the DVD. Itīs sad but true and Eidos doesnīt care.
The description of creating a custom made CD is very helpfull; I made it with my extracted sounds; all dialogs are in german; also the monk scene.

Do you know why TR3(german version on DVD) has violet coloured blood and how I can change it to red blood. (By the way you have an impressive Tomb Raider collection).

Joseph
02-07-05, 21:41
Yes you did excellent work to solve your problem, Buzzlightyear. You have your cd complete in German.

About TR3: UGLY!!! :eek: You are right: the blood is purple. No matter how i changed the settings, it stays purple. I just compared with my original TR3 cd, and without changing anything in the settings (except the resolution of course)and that blood is red.

Joseph
02-07-05, 21:58
Yes: 32 bit or 16 bit, makes no difference, blood is purple (light-blue violet).
Our TR3 XP-patch applied to it always results in Windows Error.
I have not tested this on Windows ME yet.

[ 02. July 2005, 22:59: Message edited by: joseph ]

Buzz
03-07-05, 16:28
I donīt know how this thing works but maybe check this on your original TR3-CD and tell me if it differs.
setup.ini :
[Startup]
AppName=Tomb Raider III-2
FreeDiskSpace=518
EnableLangDlg=Y

[ISUPDATE]
UpdateURL=http://
I think it could be the 4 line.

Joseph
03-07-05, 17:22
Why do you think that? It has nothing to do with it. :D
Ok, here it is:

[Startup]
AppName=Tomb Raider III-2
FreeDiskSpace=502
EnableLangDlg=Y

[ISUPDATE]
UpdateURL=http://

Buzz
03-07-05, 18:20
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-1.gif

Joseph
03-07-05, 20:19
I tested both on nVidia and ATI. Both same result. Has nothing to do with the graphic card.
The blood is even purple when playing the game in "Hardware emulation" . Which proves the problem is in the files on the dvd.

Buzz
03-07-05, 21:35
Ok, then I have to play it in "sexy" purple style.
Is it possible to publish the german Soundpackage on tombraiderchronicles?

Joseph
03-07-05, 21:51
Yes, why not?

[Edit: ok, i see it's 45 MB. I suggest you separate the specific German dialog files from the others, and pack them in ZIP. Then tell me how big the package is.]

[ 03. July 2005, 22:55: Message edited by: joseph ]

Buzz
04-07-05, 09:43
Hello Joseph!
Without ziping the files it would be 10Mb. With ziping around 8Mb. I will send it as chunks of ca. 3MB.
Buzz.

[ 04. July 2005, 10:51: Message edited by: Buzzlightyear ]

Joseph
04-07-05, 12:13
Hi Buzz, can you send it in chunks of no more than 2 MB each, to: joseph@tombraiderforums.com

PaulD
04-07-05, 13:14
it is better share here for example
http://rapidshare.de

joseph, can you compare TR3 files on CD and DVD and find different ones?
http://www.md5summer.org/ is usefull for this.

PaulD
04-07-05, 13:20
by the way,
what exactly fixes TR3 XP-patch?
i did not find any info.
http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/windowsxp2.html leads to TR3 faq, TR3 faq does not mention hand-made fix.

Joseph
04-07-05, 15:45
Hi PaulD. I don't know what the TR3 XP patch fixes. I don't even use it. TR3 plays without any patch on both my pc's with XP. SP1, SP2. Nvidia, ATI.

Joseph
04-07-05, 15:58
The difference between the original TR3 and the German version.
German version has 2 more files:
</font> config.txt
it is dated 4-9-2001 and reads: DD 0
D3D 1
D3DTF 1
DS 0
VM 1
ZBUFFER 1
DITHER 1
FILTER 1
AGP 1
SOUND 1
JOYSTICK 0
MMX 1
SFX 10
MUSIC 7
GAMMA 3.000000
DEFKEY 200 208 203 205 52 53 54 184 157 57 51 82 207 1
USERKEY 72 80 75 77 83 79 54 184 157 57 76 82 207 1
</font> data.bin
a BIN-file dated 4-9-2001</font>
Those 2 files do not exist on the original.
Also, the German tomb3.exe is 945 kB and dated 27-2-2002, while the original is 944 kB and dated 2-12-1998.

</font> On the original is a AWCS.AFP file, 680.697 kB large, dated 22-10-1998 18:31.
While on the german version this file is 1 kB, has the same date, but 1 hour earlier: 22-10-1998 17:31.</font> Original contains NEIR.AFP, large: 681.135 kB, dated 22-10-1998 18:31.
While on the german version this file is 1 kB, has the same date, but 1 hour earlier: 22-10-1998 17:31.</font> Original contains OKET.AFP, large: 681.351 kB, dated 22-10-1998 18:31.
While on the german version this file is 1 kB, has the same date, but 1 hour earlier: 22-10-1998 17:31.</font> Original contains VFAW.AFP, large: 681.979 kB, dated 22-10-1998 18:31.
While on the german version this file is 1 kB, has the same date, but 1 hour earlier: 22-10-1998 17:31.</font>
Of course it is impossible on a cd to have 4 such large files. Those files are related to the copyprotection, and give fake filesizes. Still, MD5summer needs a LOT of time to process these files. It is running for 57 minutes now, and busy with VFAW.AFP atm.

I wouldn't know what to do with the generated sums of these. It is of no use. It seems i am wasting my time.
The purple blood will likely be a corruption in one of the data files. Maybe i can find it, but probably not.

[ 04. July 2005, 18:15: Message edited by: joseph ]

Buzz
04-07-05, 16:27
Soundfiles are on their way.

[ 04. July 2005, 18:17: Message edited by: Buzzlightyear ]

Joseph
04-07-05, 17:40
1 Hour, 8 minutes, 19 seconds. The time MD5summer took to checksum the original TR3 cd. And i don't know what to do with its report. :D

Joseph
04-07-05, 18:24
Soundfiles received, thanks. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif Uploading now.

Joseph
04-07-05, 18:34
Download the German TR2 dialog soundfiles HERE (http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/downloads/tr2-german_dialogs.zip) for now.

Download the complete 40.6 MB soundpackage for TR2 German version HERE (http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/downloads/tr2-soundpackage_complete_german.zip) http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

[ 05. July 2005, 13:51: Message edited by: joseph ]

PaulD
04-07-05, 21:43
joseph, share md5sums for DVD and CD, i will try to find differences.

config.txt and data.bin are created after first run of tomb3.exe. it is quite strange to see those files on DVD.

can you share german tomb3.exe as well?

Joseph
04-07-05, 22:31
post edited. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

[ 05. July 2005, 23:57: Message edited by: joseph ]

Joseph
04-07-05, 22:38
And about MD5summer: i don't understand this program. My checksums seem to be useless. And i don't want to waste more time on it.

If you can tell me at a 5 year old kid's level step by step what you want me to do using this program, i'll be happy to send you the results.

I have TR3 original in one drive, TR3 German dvd version in the other. I can check both.
As i said, both disks are constructed completely different. See also page 2 of this thread.

Joseph
04-07-05, 22:40
Originally posted by PaulD:
config.txt and data.bin are created after first run of tomb3.exe. it is quite strange to see those files on DVD.

Yes, but they ARE present on the German DVD. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif

Joseph
04-07-05, 22:43
I guess the German compilers of this DVD didn't know exactly what they were doing, they made some mistakes

Joseph
04-07-05, 22:49
Download the German TR2 dialog soundfiles (9 MB) HERE (http://tr2-german_dialogs.zip) and add them to the TR2 soundpackage overwriting the UK dialogs.

OR:

Download the complete 40.6 MB soundpackage for TR2 German version HERE (http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/downloads/tr2-soundpackage_complete_german.zip) http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

[ 04. July 2005, 23:52: Message edited by: joseph ]

PaulD
04-07-05, 23:39
try this tomb3.exe, put it over existing, do not rename to tomb3_totry.exe or any else.
http://rapidshare.de/files/2808514/tomb3.zip.html (scroll to bottom, choose 'free')
blood is purple again?

Joseph
05-07-05, 00:00
do not rename to tomb3_totry.exe or any else. Why do you say this? :confused: Who would rename an exe before using it.

Joseph
05-07-05, 00:03
This exe gives the following error: Game Main: could not load script file.

Buzz
05-07-05, 06:17
Hello Joseph.
First Link seems to be down (german TR2 dialogs).

PaulD
05-07-05, 07:09
Why do you say this? Who would rename an exe before using it
just to make sure, i saw some people doing this

Game Main: could not load script file
i can do nothing more without original DVD, sorry :(

----
md5summer:

- point to CD, create sums, select all
- now holding "ctrl" uncheck dummy files: AWCS.AFP, NEIR.AFP, OKET.AFP, VFAW.AFP
- add, ok, proccess starts
- save created sums as CD.md5

next:
- open md5summer, point to DVD
- verify, select CD.md5
- differences marked as red

------

Buzzlightyear, link should look like
http://joseph.tombraiderforums.com/downloads/tr2-german_dialogs.zip

[ 05. July 2005, 08:38: Message edited by: PaulD ]

Joseph
05-07-05, 12:53
Link fixed (sorry).

Joseph
05-07-05, 13:13
Here is the result. _Setup.dll ERROR: Checksum did not match.
_sys1.cab ERROR: Checksum did not match.
_sys1.hdr ERROR: Checksum did not match.
_user1.cab ERROR: Checksum did not match.
_user1.hdr ERROR: Checksum did not match.
autorun.exe ERROR: Checksum did not match.
data1.cab ERROR: Checksum did not match.
data1.hdr ERROR: Checksum did not match.
dxsetup.exe ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Readme.txt ERROR: Checksum did not match.
SETUP.INI ERROR: Checksum did not match.
setup.lid ERROR: Checksum did not match.
tomb3.exe ERROR: Checksum did not match.
_ISDel.exe OK
DEC130.DLL OK
DSETUP.DLL OK
DSETUP16.DLL OK
DSETUP32.DLL OK
autorun.ico OK
EDEC.DLL OK
lang.dat OK
layout.bin OK
os.dat OK
autorun.inf OK
Setup.exe OK
CONFIG.AFP OK
setup.ins OK
DATA.TAG OK
_INST32I.EX_ OK
WINPLAY.DLL OK
WINSDEC.DLL OK
WINSTR.DLL OK

Buzz
05-07-05, 17:03
Hello Joseph!
That will probably mean, if we swap the files which didnīt match, the game will run without ugly purple blood?
Buzz.

PaulD
05-07-05, 17:22
is it full output? where is DATA/PIX/audio/CUTS...?

i have original TR3 eng CD and realy want to help you fix purple blood in german version.

give md5summer second chance. create md5 sums for CD and for DVD and share these sums. i will try to meditate of them.
alternatively you can share whole DVD content or at least TR3 files and give me link to PM :D .

Joseph
05-07-05, 17:35
Hi PaulD. DATA/PIX/audio/CUTS...etc are on the DVD not in the tr3 folder. On this DVD they have mingled all fmv's into a general fmv folder, and so on.
I have the Premier Collection UK version TR3 Gold.
This DVD contains edited versions of TR2 TR3 and TR4.

I'll try and see what i can send you to examine, PaulD. I'll pm you. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Joseph
05-07-05, 17:37
Originally posted by Buzzlightyear:
Hello Joseph!
That will probably mean, if we swap the files which didnīt match, the game will run without ugly purple blood?
Buzz. Well, basically that would mean that you turn it into a UK version. The simplest method would be just buying the uk version i'd say. ;)

Buzz
05-07-05, 18:08
I think as well that it would be easyer (buy a copie). I hoped that a small fix would work. Donīt you want to sell one of your TR3 copies http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif . Was just a joke.

Joseph
05-07-05, 18:27
Buzzlightyear, just wait to see what PaulD can do, you never know what he may find.
I suppose the German editors damaged a file. Maybe it is possible to find which file, and replace it, problem solved. (btw your joke: forget it! :D )

I'm glad PaulD offers to look into it. That could be very helpful. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

PaulD: pm sent! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

PaulD
05-07-05, 20:40
:( files are not damaged. purple/pink blood is feature of german and spain version. ask eidos why.
the only way for now to fix this is to open *.tr2 levels in editor, find appropriate "fixed" textures and refill purple with red, then save *.tr2

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=tomb%20raider%20%22purple%20blood%22&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg

[ 05. July 2005, 21:47: Message edited by: PaulD ]

Joseph
05-07-05, 22:03
Interesting PaulD! :D Help fellow gamers!!!


All blood in the Brasilian version of Tomb Raider 3 is pink! I read in
The Croft Times that the German version of the game is also
censored with purple blood. This really reduces the realism of the game and
spoils the fun of playing it. Does anyone know if there's a patch to make
blood red again?


I think that Eidos messed it up this time... I'll be very carefully
before
(if) I buy other game of them...


Later,
Snoopy.

,-~~-.___ Henrique Avila Vianna
/ \ '. \ ___ Computer Programmer/WebMaster
( | P | |-._ Universidade Federal de Pelotas
\_/-, ,----' | | } BRASIL
==== |___|.-' / \-'~; .='=`=-.
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[ 05. July 2005, 23:04: Message edited by: joseph ]

Joseph
05-07-05, 22:06
Originally posted by PaulD:
the only way for now to fix this is to open *.tr2 levels in editor, find appropriate "fixed" textures and refill purple with red, then save *.tr2

Hi PaulD, you will mean tr3 levels.

Joseph
05-07-05, 22:12
So, basically this would be a 'censoring system' on the game? I heard/read ofter that German games-versions have edited out blood... the German rules for gore and blood being different. I forgot which games those were.

In Netherlands, we always use the original versions of the games only with Dutch box and booklet.

PaulD
05-07-05, 22:31
Tomb Raider UK CD - DATA\*.tr2
as i see now
Tomb Raider German DVD - DATA\*.tr3

i will at least try to refill textures on coming weekends

Joseph
05-07-05, 22:39
Yes, you're right, my mistake. But confusing: on the DVD the TR3 DATA have * .tr3 extension name, while on the original they are *.tr2.
Also mentioned on Page 2 of this thread.

PaulD
06-07-05, 13:34
how about this blood patch?
&gt;fake blood patch :( , url deleted&lt;

[ 07. July 2005, 10:46: Message edited by: PaulD ]

Buzz
06-07-05, 16:25
Hello!
Tried the bloodpatch. Doesnīt work. Programm crashes.

Buzz
06-07-05, 16:46
After trying to install this bloodpatch I had a "Trojan horse" (Virus) on my PC. I suggest to delete this post with the Link.

PaulD
07-07-05, 18:32
i found source of pink blood.

tombpc.dat - on original German CD
tom3pc.dat - on DVD collection

as temporary solution for CD version, you can reburn CD and replace file with UK version.

temporary as in this case you will have some english titles in inventory, on start screen etc.

for DVD version I will try to find small fix

[ 07. July 2005, 19:40: Message edited by: PaulD ]

Buzz
08-07-05, 08:33
I found both in the Data folder of the German DVD collection.
I opened them with notepad.

tombpc.dat; first line reads: Tomb Raider II Script. Final Release Version 1.0 (c) Core Design Ltd 1997
-it seems to belong to Tomb Raider II; might nothing to do with pink blood.

tom3pc.dat; first line reads: Tomb Raider III Script. Final Release (c) Core Design Ltd 1998 Ltd 1997

I donīt know if it works swapimg the tom3pc.dat with UK-CD Version.

PaulD
08-07-05, 13:14
tombpc.dat/tom3pc.dat are compiled and encrypted scripts. now i'm shure the pink blood is there.

i am looking way to decrypt, change pink to red, and encrypt back the script.

I donīt know if it works swapimg the tom3pc.dat with UK-CD Version
only if you have tom3pc.dat from analogous UK DVD, i already tried to put German topmbpc.dat to UK CD and what blood you think i got? :D


I found both in the Data folder of the German DVD collection.
on DVD
tombpc.dat for TR2
tom3pc.dat for TR3

on CD only one tombpc.dat

[ 08. July 2005, 14:27: Message edited by: PaulD ]

Buzz
08-07-05, 15:28
-only if you have tom3pc.dat from analogous UK DVD, i already tried to put German topmbpc.dat to UK CD and what blood you think i got?

I thought there was only a german DVD release...
Sorry.

PaulD
08-07-05, 17:14
these are your files to get red blood in German TR3 DVD Collection version
&gt; ... (http://rapidshare.de/files/2900924/GermanDVDTR3RedBloodPatch.rar.html)&lt;

when i get last files to build German TR3 and test it I will post full explanation for both CD and DVD versions.

[ 08. July 2005, 18:15: Message edited by: PaulD ]

Joseph
08-07-05, 18:43
Hello PaulD. No, that doesn't work: still purple blood.

PaulD
08-07-05, 22:02
Now it is tested with german version. Works.

1. Download TR3 constructor rar-archive &gt;here v1.2 (http://rapidshare.de/files/2922001/GermanDVDTR3RedBloodPatch.v1.2.rar.html)&lt;, extract files.
2. Edit with notepad DVD2CD.cmd, change "set DVD=H:" to actual value. Save file and run it.
2. DVD2CD.cmd creates C:\TR3 folder and copies necessary files from DVD to C:\TR3 folder
3. When copying is done it prompts "Now creating Tomb3GerRed.iso", press any key to continue
4. Press and wait till iso creating is finished.

Next you can burn from this iso CD or download free CD emulator &gt;here (http://www.daemon-tools.cc)&lt; and test current iso right now.

[ 09. July 2005, 15:31: Message edited by: PaulD ]

Buzz
09-07-05, 08:30
PaulD!
Respect for your great work. I downloaded files let them "remuxe" and burnt them. After reinstalling the game blood was in red, heureka.
But something went wrong because the fmvīs are missing.
Quote (from Grandizer):"OK, my report on the TR3 CD.Making this was a bit of a challenge.
Third, rename the fmv files from rp3 to rpl."

PaulD
09-07-05, 14:30
Oh, no. i forgot about rp3&gt;rpl.
DVD2CD.cmd updated, new link is &gt;here&lt; (http://rapidshare.de/files/2922001/GermanDVDTR3RedBloodPatch.v1.2.rar.html)

Buzz
09-07-05, 16:49
Hello PaulD!
Just another note. After burning and testing the "remuxed" CD, some sound has gone. In Laraīs home there where no dialogues. I checked the data in C:/TR3/audio. In the remuxing process the file "audiocd.wad" was redated to current date. After I put in the original "audiocd.wad" dated: 13.11.1998, 16:18; sound was perfect. Maybe this change will only be checked if CD is burned. In ISOīs sometimes Audio doesnīt work anyway (TR1+TR2).
Buzz.

PaulD
11-07-05, 08:33
sounds quite strange. i do not have mentioned problem.

did you set for tomb3.exe compatibility mode "Win98"?

[ 11. July 2005, 09:34: Message edited by: PaulD ]

Buzz
11-07-05, 22:31
Hi PaulD!
Your programm extracts the files of the DVD to folder C/TR3. In C:/TR3/Audio the file audiocd.wad was redated and had current date.
So they didnīt work.

No, i didnīt set compatibility mode "WIN98".

Buzz
11-07-05, 23:33
Sorry, i play it in compatibility mode.

PaulD
12-07-05, 11:59
cdimage.exe in cmd should set date for all files to 1998 year.
so cdimage.exe does not appear to be working on your system. :(

anyway you can try mannualy create CD and do not forget to replace tomb3.exe and tom3pc.dat

[ 12. July 2005, 13:01: Message edited by: PaulD ]

Buzz
15-07-05, 09:35
Found another "RedBloodPatch" for TR3. Not yet tested.
http://www.laraunlimited.de/downloads2/downloads2.htm#Anker2downloads2

PaulD
20-07-05, 13:36
this patch is the same as I posted in my first link.

you reported that patch was trojan.

Buzz
20-07-05, 14:44
I think itīs not the same. After running the patch from my posted link I had no trojan on my pc. Maybe itīs not the patch itself, more the "dhl" site which makes trouble.