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Power Crystal
02-07-05, 20:46
I was searching on a TR fansite, and was looking at the characters in AOD and I came across Boaz, here's part of her info:

"In 1987 she survived a terrible plane crash, today she is still wearing the marks of this incident."

And here is the link:

http://tombraidergirl.com/tr6/characters.html

IMO I think that she'll be mentioned in Legend or she'll appear in Legend.

Arsony47
02-07-05, 20:49
maybe she wouldve if core was still in charge. but i think if cd is afraid to bring back the butler there is NO WAY theyre going to bring back a character from aod.

Melonie Tomb Raider
02-07-05, 20:54
Wasn't Lara's plane crash in 1986...? I dunno, I could be wrong. But then again, even if they were in a plane crash at the same time, didn't CD say they wanted to pretend like AOD never happened? hmm... I don't know. It would be really cool if Boaz did appear in TRL though, but I don't know if it will happen.

mau3genius
02-07-05, 21:07
I was thinking about the plane crash... Maybe they were in the same crash, but, I don't really think that CD bring back any character from AoD, I'm sure their intention is to forget AoD...

ben croft
02-07-05, 21:09
Maybe yes. CD said they're not ignoring AOD. So, I think it could be possible. Who knows... :rolleyes:

mau3genius
02-07-05, 21:10
I was thinking about the plane crash... Maybe they were in the same crash, but, I don't really think that CD bring back any character from AoD, I'm sure their intention is to forget AoD...

mau3genius
02-07-05, 21:11
sorry for double post n.nU

ben croft
02-07-05, 21:17
They want a "new" game, a fresh start, like if TRL were the first tomb raider game. You know what I mean. Maybe they really don't want any character or fact related to AOD, like mau3genius said http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

UNDERTAKER
02-07-05, 21:31
Boaz will NOT be in TRL. I am willing to stake everything I own on that. Its just not realistic at all.

+ This game is a brand new, fresh storyline and Toby Gard has said that NO character from her past plays any significant role.

+ Riley Cooper said that the main nemesis is a NEW powerful charcter who is a globetrotter and has loads of money (from the way he talks this chracter is male)

+ Riley Cooper then talks about a *NEW* female character.

This all points towards a big no show for Boaz, or any other past tomb raider character making any big impact in the game.

Camera Obscura
02-07-05, 21:32
CD have already stated that no PREVIOUS characters from past games will make an appearance in Legend. The Butler had atleast a 80% chance of appearing than Boaz, and where is that butler, not in Legend I can assure. So what chance does Boaz have? None.

Nicky
02-07-05, 21:34
I don't think that Boaz will be back either (although she was a cool character). As for the plane crash, I don't think it was the same with Lara's. Lara's plane crashed while flying over the Himalayas, while Kristina's somewhere in South America (I think it was on the Andes, but I'm not sure).

Melonie Tomb Raider
02-07-05, 21:40
Originally posted by UNDERTAKER:
Boaz will NOT be in TRL. I am willing to stake everything I own on that. You would stake everything you own!?!?! I wouldn't make a bet with him guys, he's really confident. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/c-2.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

hehehe. I agree with you though, I highly doubt we will see Boaz.I dunno if I would stake everything I know on that though..... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif ;)

thesmallprint
02-07-05, 21:49
I highly doubt Boaz will return in Legend for all the reasons Undertaker said. It seems really unlikely.

Kamrusepas
02-07-05, 22:23
Originally posted by Melonie Tomb Raider:
Wasn't Lara's plane crash in 1986...? I dunno, I could be wrong. But if she was 16 in 1984 [in Kambodia] and she was 20-21 when she was in a plane crash... doesn't match http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Power Crystal
02-07-05, 22:37
Oh right, I made myself look like a fool lol. :rolleyes:

maripattie
02-07-05, 23:11
i just noticed(off the subject) that lara's bio is worse then i thought...if she was 20-21 when the plane crashed and after that there was at least 4 year between that and TR1...i know i shouldnt be looking at from real time but still...as much as i loved her bio i think CD should do some fine tuning to some weird parts...

as for boaz in the same plane as lara...that would be so cool if core thought of that and put it into AOD...she could of been a friend of lara's...i know it seems alittle like TRLR but it would be interesting....anyways i hope shes not in TRL that would be weird because she died in AOD and doesnt this take place after AOD...or for ppl like me over AOD

UNDERTAKER
02-07-05, 23:29
Originally posted by Power Crystal:
Oh right, I made myself look like a fool lol. :rolleyes: Not at all. This forum is all about friendly debate and discussion about the world of tomb raider. You presented your opinions and I presented mine thats all. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Jordy
02-07-05, 23:48
I noticed the Boaz/plane crash thing when I first played AoD and wondered if it might be linked to Lara's plane crash...I suspect it may have been, cause it's such a big co-incidence. But I'm sure that won't play any part in Legend.

mau3genius
03-07-05, 00:14
Now, we can't know if Lara's plane crash in Tokakeribi and Kris' plane crash in Los Andes are related, It's for sure that Core had been planning talk about that in the next game, but I don't know... I really wanted Core to follow the game line, just to see how it could be the Turkey scenary

Daniel Le grand
03-07-05, 00:31
hmm... probably not Boaz, but that doesn't means that it couldn't be some1 from that plane crash... well its "long thought dead" isnt it? maybe its some1 that Lara thought that died on the plane crash,but some1 we never heard of...

Tomb Raider 5194
03-07-05, 00:41
maybe its some1 that Lara thought that died on the plane crash,but some1 we never heard of... maybe her fiancee??? :rolleyes:

Laras L3gend813
03-07-05, 00:44
I think it was her father that will be the enemy in this game. Yes I know strange but if CD has taken over and if theyre going to tell the story the way it should be her father is most definently going to be involved. Not to mention in Laras bio it says that they began to loath eachother or dispite.

[ 03. July 2005, 01:46: Message edited by: laras L3gend ]

Thorn
03-07-05, 01:04
I can't wait to find out the whole story! :D Could be pretty interesting going so far back in the past.

Melonie Tomb Raider
03-07-05, 01:10
Originally posted by Power Crystal:
Oh right, I made myself look like a fool lol. :rolleyes: ahh... no you didn't http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/hug.gif . Even if you did though (which you didn't), don't feel bad, I do it all the time. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

maripattie
03-07-05, 01:16
hmmm....a new female character....??? aha!!! is the corgi a female???....okay that was a joke...
i really doubt that any person in her family will be evil because her dad did go to her funeral didnt he???

Laras L3gend813
03-07-05, 01:36
Her father died in the plane crash it said in her bio after him and lara had an arguement

RedManiac
03-07-05, 02:23
I agree with Undertaker, this forum is about giving opinions and debate ideas. You did not make yourself look like a fool Power Crystal. Keep the ideas and opinions coming. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Camera Obscura
03-07-05, 02:39
Originally posted by laras L3gend:
Her father died in the plane crash it said in her bio after him and lara had an arguement If what you say is true then maybe Lara thought he died but he survived and now they have some grudge against each other like Lara had with Von Croy. And since he has millions of $$$$ with him, he can pay off Mafia, thugs, any type of assassin or mercenary to kill off his own daughter (Although that seems a little dumb cause that be child abuse lol)

But what about Lara's mother? If the father is in the Legend plot, how will she fit into all this? Maybe she died on the plane crash the father was in. Or better yet! She died in the crash Lara was in, maybe Lara pursuaded her to join along and could give the father another personal reason to hate and disown (Sp?) her, for the death of his wife.

This game was officially stated to be more personal than any other, so there's a TINY chance her father could be in it as the main villain, like maybe 5-10%. Well, these are my theories of Legend , they could be dumb, or not, but really, I don't give a damn if they're stupid atleast I put some thought to it. Now I got to log out. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

[ 03. July 2005, 03:41: Message edited by: Camera Obscura ]

Melonie Tomb Raider
03-07-05, 02:51
hmm... What I am thikning is that CD could possibly make up a whole new character that was supposed to be in her past. Maybe some one we have never heard of...

Camera Obscura
03-07-05, 02:57
Wouldn't it be Von Croy all over again? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

Liberty Ashford
03-07-05, 03:00
Maybe Lara Croft had a sister, who Lara had thought too have died in the plane crash. And maybe Lara's sister blamed Lara on the plane crash, which caused the family too die. And maybe the story line is finding this artifact "will release a weapon more powerful then you can ever imagine" and lara's sister and the globe trotter are planning on takeing over the world =P. and, how old would Lara Be? I think (no offence too people over 27) that it wouldnt suit lara if she was over 27.

Lily Beith
03-07-05, 03:12
I thought the TR series were ageless. Or otherwise, I really doubt Lara would retire just because of some chronological inadvertences http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Hmm, I also incline to think the person from her past involved will be her father. Since they said this game is supposed to be more personal than any other, it wouldn't be surprising. After all, of all people in her past, wasn't he the one Lara was most attached to?

And perhaps the movie has inspired the producers a bit when it comes to this...

Melonie Tomb Raider
03-07-05, 03:31
hmm... Well, if you mention it being more "personal" then it leads me to think it would be her Fianc'e. But then again, was there anything about that in the games or did the comics make that up? I'm not sure...

Any way, I still think they probably made up somebody that was in her past that we don't know about. However, if it was a real person in ther past, I think it would be relaly cool if they had her fianc'e. If she even had one in the games....

Lily Beith
03-07-05, 03:34
Haha, nah... she didn't have. Lara is the female version of the "lonely cowboy". :D

Melonie Tomb Raider
03-07-05, 03:44
Well, I read once that her parents had arranged for her to be married, but she didn't want to marry te guy or something... I just thought it would be cool if he returned in TRL, but as her enemy. That would be very interesting... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif

However, I don't even think he existed in the game. Would make for a good story though, but I'm sure CD has something up their sleeve that we will be very impressed with.

dannyx_nr
03-07-05, 04:03
In the TR chronicles, the couple in the cementary aren't Lara's parents?

Liberty Ashford
03-07-05, 04:19
I was just looking at the interview with Riley Cooper, and I was looking at the scenery. The graphics are gorgeous, I love them. Its beautiful just too look at them =P. I hope they bring in some more Costumes for lara. Anyway, I'll stick by my theory that Lara actually died in the plane crash, but then she was cloned (perhaps by boaz and the globe trotter???) and the new villian female is a evil clone of Lara Croft.

Melonie Tomb Raider
03-07-05, 04:32
Cloned? omg, now that is far fetched! It'd be like a soap opera! I dunno if I want that... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif hahaha! Very creative though...

cococomics_pres
03-07-05, 04:51
Originally posted by Danny Rex:
In the TR chronicles, the couple in the cementary aren't Lara's parents? I always heard they were aunt and uncle. Also I thought that both parents were still alive but disowned Lara for trying to break free of the aristocratic life. Maybe I'm mistaken? Anyway I would love it if the Male character mentioned were the Dad and the Female the Mom! What a crazy scenario?! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif

sea
03-07-05, 04:53
Every one laras plane crash was in 1989 ok and this is 100% true so boazes plane crash was a different time.

Liberty Ashford
03-07-05, 04:56
Originally posted by Melonie Tomb Raider:
Cloned? omg, now that is far fetched! It'd be like a soap opera! I dunno if I want that... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif hahaha! Very creative though... Melonie, in TR1 there was a Dinosuar, That was Far Fetched. In Tr3 there was a Dinosuar, that was Far Fetched. Lara can hold her breathe for ages, jump high and far, and some how wrench herself up too a ledge. All thats Far Fetched, but still very good, and creative. So, you dont really know what EIDOS and CD have in store for us.

[ 03. July 2005, 06:00: Message edited by: Liberty Ashford ]

some_guy
03-07-05, 08:34
We don't know who those people were in Chronicles, but they could be her parents!

Back to the topic: I don't think Boaz will return!

I think they will put in someone, we won't even think of or they will make someone up!

[ 03. July 2005, 09:46: Message edited by: some_guy ]

some_guy
03-07-05, 08:47
Originally posted by JesseB:
Every one laras plane crash was in 1989 ok and this is 100% true so boazes plane crash was a different time. That can't be...she was 16 when she was in Kambodia with Von Croy...

Power Crystal
03-07-05, 09:18
It could be Lara's twin. :D

Laralicious
03-07-05, 12:41
Originally posted by some_guy:
Back to the topic: I don't think Boaz will return!Yeh, i agree. I don't think it could be Boaz because she turned into the big pod monster (i don't know it's actual name) then into the fly.

Liberty Ashford
03-07-05, 13:02
Originally posted by Power Crystal:
It could be Lara's twin. :D Hey could be possible. A Twin that Lara's Parents gave away, and the twin is jealous, and wants revange :D

LaraLuva4Eva
03-07-05, 13:21
hey i like the twin idea lol

Hey Libbie go on MSN

Jordy
03-07-05, 14:05
Neither of Lara's parent's died in the plane crash. This is a point which seems to cause a lot of confusion, but read the instruction booklet accompanying TR1 and you'll see that her parents disowned her after she changed her lifestyle.

The couple at Lara's memorial service in Chronicles were supposed to be her parents, I'd say. They may have cut off contact with her but she's still their daughter, it makes sense that they would want to say their final goodbyes.

Raiden
03-07-05, 14:57
I'm sticking to my original theory - her fiancee. I don't think it would be her parents, I know that theorhetically it *could* happen, but... meh, I don't see it happening.

Catlantean
03-07-05, 18:44
The villain's probably not from Lara's family (they're enjoying their comfy upper-class lifestyle too much to ever think of doing...well, anything). But I like the idea of her fiancee turning out to be the bad guy :D

As for Boaz, as much as I like her I don't see what's the point of bringing her back. It makes as much sense as bringing that herbalist or Janice back as villains - and even they had more important roles in AOD than Boaz did. Not to mention that a Goth zombie-making doctor totally doesn't fit into a TR game.

Melonie Tomb Raider
03-07-05, 20:15
Originally posted by Liberty Ashford:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Melonie Tomb Raider:
Cloned? omg, now that is far fetched! It'd be like a soap opera! I dunno if I want that... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif hahaha! Very creative though... Melonie, in TR1 there was a Dinosuar, That was Far Fetched. In Tr3 there was a Dinosuar, that was Far Fetched. Lara can hold her breathe for ages, jump high and far, and some how wrench herself up too a ledge. All thats Far Fetched, but still very good, and creative. So, you dont really know what EIDOS and CD have in store for us. </font>[/QUOTE]good point... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

dannyx_nr
03-07-05, 21:02
I also think is her fiancee, or maybe an old friend who also was in the plane

Liberty Ashford
03-07-05, 21:16
Originally posted by Melonie Tomb Raider:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Liberty Ashford:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Melonie Tomb Raider:
Cloned? omg, now that is far fetched! It'd be like a soap opera! I dunno if I want that... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif hahaha! Very creative though... Melonie, in TR1 there was a Dinosuar, That was Far Fetched. In Tr3 there was a Dinosuar, that was Far Fetched. Lara can hold her breathe for ages, jump high and far, and some how wrench herself up too a ledge. All thats Far Fetched, but still very good, and creative. So, you dont really know what EIDOS and CD have in store for us. </font>[/QUOTE]good point... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I feel like i just made a friend http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Melonie Tomb Raider
04-07-05, 00:17
Originally posted by Liberty Ashford:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Melonie Tomb Raider:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Liberty Ashford:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Melonie Tomb Raider:
Cloned? omg, now that is far fetched! It'd be like a soap opera! I dunno if I want that... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif hahaha! Very creative though... Melonie, in TR1 there was a Dinosuar, That was Far Fetched. In Tr3 there was a Dinosuar, that was Far Fetched. Lara can hold her breathe for ages, jump high and far, and some how wrench herself up too a ledge. All thats Far Fetched, but still very good, and creative. So, you dont really know what EIDOS and CD have in store for us. </font>[/QUOTE]good point... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I feel like i just made a friend http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I think you're right. :D

pedrokas23
04-07-05, 19:50
Boaz had a plane crash accident in 1987 and Lara had one in 1989. So she won't return in TRL, I guess.

Mary CF
05-07-05, 08:03
Ah well, I never cared much for Boaz anyway. She didn't really get a proper introduction and I had no idea about her plane crash until someone mentioned it in this thread.

I do wonder about these two characters though, who get a small mention on the TR Chronicles page, but none whatsoever in the game (they probably would've come up later):

Luther Rouzic:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6145/rouzic4pg.jpg

and

The Shaman:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1134/shaman0mv.jpg

you can read about them more &gt; &gt; &gt; here &lt; &lt; &lt; (http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tng/char_bio.html)

Pietin2006
05-07-05, 18:43
Hello all, After reading alot of others posts I decided to fetch out my old Manual from Tomb Raider 1 when the game first came out. In the intro it says that her plane crash was at the age 21, but never says a year or who she was with in the plane. (it also never gives her birth year so I guess Crystal Dynamics can make up their own birth year) Two weeks after the plane crash she walked into the village of Tokakeriby and "her experiences had a profound effect on her". (I'll bet those were they experiences that we are going to find out in Legend, according to Riley Cooper) It also says that for then next 8 years she traveled on her own and THEN (Sry I didn't know how make this italic) her parents disown her, therefore her parents didn't in the crash...it also says that she funds her trips by publishing "travel books and detaild journals of her exploits" so I don't know how she can afford a mansion in the first game but anyway... the only reason I am only taking information from the first game also is because I remember reading that Crystal Dynamics is pretending that TR2-AOD never happend. Well I exactly know what to make of all that but I guess we will find out when the game comes out.

Pie Tin

(PS i also noticed the lastwords in my manual are "HFCIT?", anyone know what that means?...maybe thats what we will find out in the new game!!...j/k...)

Mary CF
05-07-05, 18:56
Yes!!! In the first manual, I noticed the "HFCIT?" and the "WHY AREN'T YOU PLAYING ME LEVELS?". It puzzled me and the latter comment made me laugh a little.

I was so interested in TR from the very first time I bought it that I read the manual word for word from back to front. I don't do that for very many games.

VIPER86
06-07-05, 10:38
I think that BOAZ will be in the game because
THAT'S THE WAY eidos MAKE PEOPLE BUY AOD AFTER THEY HAVE PLAYED LEGEND. THEY WILL WANT TO KNOW WHO'S THAT BOAZ AND WHAT DID SHE DO IN AOD. THAT WILL RAISE THE SALES OF AOD

xChat_Noirx
06-07-05, 11:51
I would probably say that mary CF has a point about luther rouzic and the shaman and i would think that they would play at least a small part in the game. because i had the PC version of AOD, I thought I would have missed a bit that had Luther in it but if it's not in the PS version either, why would they bother making him?
the same goes for the shaman. the shaman is an African witch doctor, and is'nt Lara in Africa for part of TRL? :confused:

Mary CF
06-07-05, 14:06
Hmm... well I wasn't saying I thought they would be in TRL. I just noticed they were mentioned but never seen in AoD. I thought it would've been interesting to actually see these characters in AoD if it had done better. :D Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And no, sorry viper, but I think boaz is definitely out of the question.

JACOBryanBURNS
06-07-05, 14:13
It would be interesting if they incorporated the shaman into the story. I mean, she DID do a lot for Lara... if I have the story correct.