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focus
18-09-05, 07:56
as there is such great artists on this site , i thought maybe we should have a topic where people who are not so good at art LIKE ME could ask questions like how to get the perfect shading and etc.

or maybe some of artists could just post their best techniques,

this also includes drawing on the computer

this is probably a **** idea

Lolo86
18-09-05, 08:58
I don't know if anyone want to know my technique but i'll write it ^^

Use photoshop and a tablet (if you're patient you can use your mouse too)

When I begin I draw with a blakc brush at 30% a "plan" of my drawing on a first empty layer. This plan is not detailed at all. When it's finished I make this layer transparent (at 50%) and I draw a more detailed drawing on the second layer. When it's finished I make another layer but on this one I draw with a white brush in order to hide some of the errors of the first layers which were fast made. Then I make a black layer with the final level of detail. These layers are just composed with outline strokes. I draw the shadows after on layers with the same technique (one or two layers with black 35% brush and one with white 35% brush). And then until the black and white picture is good. The I flatten the picture, I set it into "multiply" mode and I make colore on layers below. That's all folk ;)

focus
18-09-05, 09:33
COPY'S i always like to try new things
i seen your picture by the way , 11/10

camissambo
18-09-05, 10:08
Could I see some of your work using the your described method Lolo^?

Becaus I always work things out on regular paper first (that always looks fine), but coloring in photoshop is a disaster! Haha

superstar
18-09-05, 10:45
note beforehand: my method requires a tablet and photoshop! :D --> this methos is called soft cg'ing and it is mostly used in anime style drawings, but you can try this n other pieces too!
first i start as a traditional piece, i sketch with pencil, then i scan the image and digitally ink it(this is the hardest part-if you hand is shaky though, you can try to ink it before scanning and andjust 'levels' in photoshop to make your lines look pitch black)
then i set up layers and color the skin (and shade) hair clothes and accesories --> use lasso tool here and there to create sharp looking shadows and then soften them with a soft brush and big size.
when all this stuff is done, i just make the bg transparent and either draw under the figure or import another bg image i have done previously under the image... and it is done.. but this takes time, so be patient :D hope it helped!
here is a recent example is have done using this method:

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3695/cherrybg26if.png

focus
18-09-05, 17:06
i need to ask a question wat is a tablet

OMG SUPERSTAR http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif that is brillant http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

[ 18. September 2005, 18:10: Message edited by: focus ]

superstar
18-09-05, 17:19
ohh thnx focus soo much! :D
tablet is a device that helps you draw and color stuff using a digital pen... you can go to www.wacom.com (http://www.wacom.com) to learn more... :D

Lolo86
18-09-05, 23:24
If ghar hasan want en example go to the "Lara Croft image" thread ;)

camissambo
20-09-05, 06:30
thanx Lolo^

Tomb Raider Master
21-09-05, 21:11
OMG Superstar! :eek: F*****g awsome! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

nomedo
21-09-05, 21:32
maybe i should take the opportunity to ask all the talanted photoshoppers something i dont know.
i know that:
Contrast/Brightness=BAD
Levels=Good

but i skipped that class in school, so i dont know why and how to use levels. can someone explain that????

Lolo86
22-09-05, 09:13
I would not say contrast/brightness is bad, you just don't have as many controls as with the levels (I hope you'll understand my english, I'm french :s). When you use levels, you see an image with black, white and grey triangles below. When you move the black for example to the right, the darkest colors of the image become black, and the further you deplace the triangle on the right, the brighter are the "dark colours" who become black (ooooh, how can someone understand what i'm saying... ). The levels are often used to make the brightest colours of your picture really white and the darkest really black. The contrast/brightness is more automatical and it modifies all the colors briging some to brightness and some to darkness but you can't choose. I hope you will understand and it will help you. I don't know how to explain how the image of the levels can help you but it is very important. It represents levels of the picture you're working on.

superstar
22-09-05, 17:24
ohh thnx soo much tomb raider master! :D

Catapharact
22-09-05, 17:40
Well I am more of a traditionalist LOL! My area usually is focused upon Sketches http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif . Particularly the area on Monotone http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif . You would be surpirsed in how much detail you can capture in a few pencil strokes ;) .


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Catapharact/Swolf2.jpg

In the area of Graphics design, well my compositions aren't very big. I did do Signatures LOL! ( custom ones ;) )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Catapharact/round3jpeg7yb.jpg

[ 22. September 2005, 18:44: Message edited by: Catapharact ]

focus
22-09-05, 20:19
is that sniper wolf , that is so cool

Catapharact
22-09-05, 20:37
Offtopic:

The one and only LOL! Best female character in a game IMO http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif . A very sad story line.

Tomb Raider Master
22-09-05, 20:45
That's great Catapharact! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Apofiss
22-09-05, 20:47
Originally posted by Catapharact:
Offtopic:

The one and only LOL! Best female character in a game IMO http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif . A very sad story line. Yeah thats right. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif I still remember all these dialogs. Otocan: "Snake! What are you fighting for!? What I'm fighting for!?" Snake :"If we'll get through this... I'll tell ya" :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Nice sketch Catapharact

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif

[ 22. September 2005, 21:49: Message edited by: Apofiss ]

Catapharact
22-09-05, 21:04
Again offopic LOL!:

By far MGS is the best game I have ever played http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif . Overall you can't hate any character since all of them have such deep impating backgroud stories. It puts a face in all teh killing you do. In war, no one really cares who you are killing. They don't know that the man they just shot may be the only son of a widowed mother, who now has no one to support her.

The reality of the situation. It's what it captures http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif , and it's what defines a good game IMO http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif .

On topic:

Well here is an older skecth I did, and it should be no surprise now of my Avatar's origin ;) LOL!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Catapharact/Pair.jpg

[ 23. September 2005, 16:15: Message edited by: Catapharact ]

camissambo
24-09-05, 09:48
Does anyone know how I can get the lighting/coloring/clean effects used by Gez Fry? (see: www.gezfry.com). (http://www.gezfry.com).)

For example my drawings, when scanned, always look smudgy. I have no idea how to clean them before coloring...