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AnthonyShock1515
28-12-05, 03:09
Claims of collagen is being extracted from Chinese prisoners that have been excecuted! Heres the article...:(

EU regulations on the issue are currently in the draft stage but are not expected to come into force for several years.

The UK's Guardian newspaper reported that a sales agent for an unnamed Chinese cosmetics company is using skin harvested from the corpses of executed convicts to develop beauty products for sale in Europe.

Agents for the firm told a researcher for the paper who posed as a potential buyer that it is developing collagen for lip and wrinkle treatments from skin taken from prisoners after they have been shot.

The agents say some of the company's products have been exported to the UK, and that the use of skin from condemned convicts is "traditional" and nothing to "make such a big fuss about", according to the Guardian.

The chairman of a House of Commons select health committee, Kevin Barron, told the newspaper its members may launch an investigation into the allegation. The newspaper did not name the Chinese collagen company due to legal reasons.

The agent told the Guardian researcher: "A lot of the research is still carried out in the traditional manner using skin from the executed prisoner and aborted foetus."

The material was being bought from "bio tech" companies based in the northern province of Heilongjiang, and was being developed elsewhere in China, the Guardian reported.

"In China it is considered very normal and I was very shocked that western countries can make such a big fuss about this," the agent is reported to have said.

The agent said the Chinese government has put some pressure on all the medical facilities to keep this type of work in low profile.

"We are still in the early days of selling these products, and clients from abroad are quite surprised that China can manufacture the same human collagen for less than five per cent of what it costs in the west," he is reported to have said.

According to Amnesty International about 3,400 Chinese prisoners were shot in executions last year, and another 6,000 are on death row. The Chinese government has admitted that organs are transplanted from dead prisoners, but only with their prior consent.

Collagen is a structural protein found in skin, bones, tendons and other connective tissue. It is used in cosmetic surgery to plump up lips and flatten out wrinkles.

That is horrible!:mad:

tlr online
28-12-05, 03:12
Bloody hell!

Tramp
28-12-05, 03:16
Glad I don't use anything with Collagen.

AnthonyShock1515
28-12-05, 03:26
Whatever happened to graceful ageing?:o

tlr online
28-12-05, 03:36
Let's see if you think like that in your later years ;)

Tramp
28-12-05, 03:43
Men don't have the same problem with ageing as most women.

A man with some grey in his hair is considered distinguished. A woman old.

Personally I couldn't give a damn, if people don't like me for what I am then that's their problem, not mine.

My problem with collagen is the creams they put it into. I have oily skin to start off with, so if I use them I break out in pimples (yes even at my age).
So I don't use moisturisers on my skin. Just water and usually Witch Hazel Lotion. I don't use soap on my face at all as soap is not really good for skin. Just water and a nice astringent to really help cleanse. And regularly Apricot Scrub. Good for keeping pimples at bay and deep cleansing especially for blackheads.

tlr online
28-12-05, 03:45
I don't use soap either. Drys my face out.

Capt. Murphy
28-12-05, 03:46
Even the Government of China say that their people are happy under thier communist reign. :ohn:

If it wasn't such a BIG DEAL - then why keep it LOW PROFILE to begin with?

I've even heard that they make little kitten figures out of real cats... That is: they use the fur from them. They have sold them at Wal-Mart stores here in the U.S.

Very shocking. Yet, I'm almost not surprised. :pi:

edit: Now I think I'm going to go through any hygene related products to see if they have collogen in them. I might throw them out if I think they may have come from China. :-x

Satu
28-12-05, 07:36
I think if we knew what went into most products we would be horrified, but this is unbelievable, what next?

I stick to basics nothing fancy for me, preferably natural products.

Capt. Murphy I actually saw the kitten figurines at a Sunday market. I thought they look like the real thing and when I had a close look I was horrified because the fur was from a cat. People actually found it amusing. I was so disgusted and mad and I reported the culprits. Hence I never saw them again. Some people are really sick.

Nessie
28-12-05, 07:55
...ew. Suddenly, I'm glad I don't use any products of that kind, whether this article is true or not. It just sounds so... unhygienic. Again, ew.

Catlantean
28-12-05, 08:56
I remember this was posted here a while ago. I still think it's disgusting to wear corpses on your face http://smilies.vidahost.com/ups/layla_phoenix/sick.gif

b2l
28-12-05, 11:36
wow , i cant belive it , well i guess they dont waste anything , thwey always use everything... all this is just grose... even dead they cant reast in peace :(

Jacob x5
28-12-05, 12:07
That is indeed disgusting. I always wonder why the people doing this don't realise just how horrible it is.

Pipolinne
28-12-05, 12:37
This makes me think on the soaps the nazis made of human skin from dead prisoners onconcentration camps.

I suppose our mentalities didn't change that much,if there's ppl thinking it's not that much!

AnthonyShock1515
28-12-05, 13:52
I don't think the Chinese have the choice to agree with communism, they are forced to go by it.

Anyways, a lot of products nowadays have lots of chemicals in it we don't know about.

Getting your teeth whitened is a hoax. They do whiten your teeth, but the whitener actually burns the protective layer off your teeth. Meaning you have to have it done regularely.:(

If you have Dandruff, use a natural way to cure it. Head and Shoulders actually burns the loose skin off the scalp! So dandruff comes back a month or 2 later and you having to keep using it!:(

Coca-cola actually dehydrates your body. Making you "have another!"

I don't really trust Coca-cola anymore. After I heard one of their products called 'Disani' (it was a bottled mineral water) actually turned out to be tap water!!!

I found a recipe that was found in a notebook a while ago.


This recipe is attributed to a sheet of paper found in an old formulary book owned by Coca-Cola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola)inventor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventor), John S. Pemberton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Pemberton), just before his death (U.S. measures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._customary_units)):

1 oz citrate caffeine
3 oz citric acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid)
1 fl oz extract vanilla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla)
1 qt lime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_%28fruit%29) juice
2½ oz flavoring
30 lb (14 kg) sugar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar)
4 fl oz fluid extract of coca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca) (decocainized flavor essence of the coca leaf)
2½ gal water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water)
Caramel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caramel) sufficient
80 Oil orange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_%28fruit%29)
40 Oil cinnamon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon)
120 Oil lemon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon)
20 Oil coriander (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriander)
40 Oil nutmeg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutmeg)
40 Oil neroli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neroli)
1 qt alcohol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol)"Mix caffeine acid and lime juice in 1 quart boiling water add vanilla and flavoring when cool. Let stand for 24 hours. Flavoring is likely a mixture orange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_%28fruit%29) oil, lemon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon), nutmeg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutmeg) oil, cinnamon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon) oil, coriander (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriander) oil, neroli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neroli) oil and 1 quart of alcohol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol)."
This recipe does not specify when sugar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar), coca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca), caramel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caramel) or the rest of the water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water) are added.

Lara Croft Fan Joe
28-12-05, 14:06
Yeah I heard about dasani too anthony, apparently it can also give u cancer! that collegen thing is absolutly gross, i'm never letting ANYONE i no get a lip job! ew...

Anubis_AF
28-12-05, 14:13
Disgusting http://www.tombraiderforums.com/forums/graemlins/yuck.gif

AnthonyShock1515
28-12-05, 15:19
Yeah I heard about Dasani too Anthony, apparently it can also give u cancer!

Nearly everything now gives you cancer. Eating too much salmon. Intake of Calcuim and Folic acid can give you colon cancer.

I think anything can cause you cancer, I think anything is the trigger. So eat away!:cln: